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| Archbishop urges state not to 'dictate' over marriage | Archbishop urges state not to 'dictate' over marriage |
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| Ministers should not overrule tradition on the issue of same-sex marriages, the Archbishop of York has said. | |
| Dr John Sentamu, the second most senior Church of England cleric, told the Daily Telegraph that marriage must be between a man and a woman. | |
| He supported civil partnerships, he said, but only "dictators" tried to overturn history and redefine marriage. | |
| Dr Sentamu also said the Church should do more to avoid its leadership being mainly white and middle class. | Dr Sentamu also said the Church should do more to avoid its leadership being mainly white and middle class. |
| The government will open a consultation on the issue of same-sex marriages in March. A consultation on the subject by the Scottish government ended last month. | The government will open a consultation on the issue of same-sex marriages in March. A consultation on the subject by the Scottish government ended last month. |
| 'Tradition and history' | 'Tradition and history' |
| But the Archbishop told the Telegraph that it was not the role of government to "gift" the institution of marriage to anyone. | |
| "I don't think it is the role of the state to define what marriage is. | |
| "It is set in tradition and history and you can't just (change it) overnight, no matter how powerful you are. | |
| "We've seen dictators do it, by the way, in different contexts and I don't want to redefine very clear social structures that have been in existence for a long time and then overnight the state believes it could go in a particular way." | |
| Dr Sentamu pointed out that bishops in the House of Lords did not seek to obstruct the introduction of civil partnerships between same-sex couples in 2004. | Dr Sentamu pointed out that bishops in the House of Lords did not seek to obstruct the introduction of civil partnerships between same-sex couples in 2004. |
| "We supported civil partnerships because we believe that friendships are good for everybody." | |
| He said the Church also had no opposition to plans to allow civil partnership ceremonies to take place in places of worship, if agreed by the religious denomination in question. | He said the Church also had no opposition to plans to allow civil partnership ceremonies to take place in places of worship, if agreed by the religious denomination in question. |
| But Dr Sentamu said the Church would not stand idly by if the government sought to allow same-sex marriages to be on a par with heterosexual ones. | |
| He said: "If you genuinely would like the registration of civil partnerships to happen in a more general way, most people will say they can see the drift. But if you begin to call those marriage, you're trying to change the English language. | He said: "If you genuinely would like the registration of civil partnerships to happen in a more general way, most people will say they can see the drift. But if you begin to call those marriage, you're trying to change the English language. |
| "That does not mean you diminish, condemn, criticise, patronise any same-sex relationships because that is not what the debate is about," added Dr Sentamu. | "That does not mean you diminish, condemn, criticise, patronise any same-sex relationships because that is not what the debate is about," added Dr Sentamu. |
| The archbishop said: "The Church has always stood out - Jesus actually was the odd man out. I'd rather stick with Jesus than be popular because it looks odd." | The archbishop said: "The Church has always stood out - Jesus actually was the odd man out. I'd rather stick with Jesus than be popular because it looks odd." |
| Prime Minister David Cameron told the Conservative Party conference last year: "I don't support gay marriage despite being a Conservative. I support gay marriage because I'm a Conservative." | |
| Black churchgoers 'leaving' | Black churchgoers 'leaving' |
| Dr Sentamu also said both black parishioners and white working class churchgoers were poorly represented in the Anglican church. | Dr Sentamu also said both black parishioners and white working class churchgoers were poorly represented in the Anglican church. |
| "Where we have lost out is black people who had been realised Anglicans, who are now joining Pentecostal churches. That's a huge drain," he claimed. | "Where we have lost out is black people who had been realised Anglicans, who are now joining Pentecostal churches. That's a huge drain," he claimed. |
| "Heaven is not going to be full of just black people, just working-class people, just middle-class people, it's going to be, in the words of Desmond Tutu, a rainbow people of God in all its diversity," he added. | "Heaven is not going to be full of just black people, just working-class people, just middle-class people, it's going to be, in the words of Desmond Tutu, a rainbow people of God in all its diversity," he added. |
| The Archbishop said he had never encountered racism from white clergy during his rise through the ranks of the Church. | The Archbishop said he had never encountered racism from white clergy during his rise through the ranks of the Church. |
| But he said: "When I was a vicar there was a lady who didn't want me to take her husband's funeral because I was black. I took one funeral and at the end a man said to me, 'Why did my father deserve to be buried by a black monkey?' We received letters with excrement in." | But he said: "When I was a vicar there was a lady who didn't want me to take her husband's funeral because I was black. I took one funeral and at the end a man said to me, 'Why did my father deserve to be buried by a black monkey?' We received letters with excrement in." |