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OMG AGAIN BUSH DID SOMETHING
HES PUSHING IS LUCK !!!!!
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Few dead Americans... who cares?
I saw today that the results of America-led hositilities in Iraq have ended up with 655,000 civilian deaths there.
How many people spent more than 30 seconds contemplating that?
What a crazy world it is that the loss of life become so insignificant
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Whilst it is inevitable that the media will draw comparisons with 9/11, it should not cloud or diminish the fact that four people have lost their lives in such tragic circumstances.
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At the time of the crash, I was visiting a friend who lives several blocks from the crash site. I didn't go down there, but I think everyone realized at once that it wasn't terror-related, and people seemed to be regarding it with a New Yorker's characteristic morbid, semi-disinterested curiosity--nothing like the shock and panic seen on 9/11. One thing I've heard repeated all afternoon is "Great, here comes excessive airport security again!"
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Hopefully we can focus on helping those left alive in those families and the building which was hit. The people effected need our help and as human beings, we should all share in wanting to give it. But not just this time - every time tragedy strikes any of us.
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I'll keep this comment short and sweet: My condolences to the family of the dead in this tragic accident.
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I work about 10 blocks away and was out for a smoke break when I got upstairs I heard what happened and my first thoughts are obivious, but when I saw the footage on tv we all new it was a non-event. Small plane hitting an Apartment building in bad weather added up to an accident. After the first trade center bombings, and 9/11 and all the subsequent terror alerts and then the massive blackout the city has learned not to panic and pull together, nyc is a tough city and in good in a crisis, but all the same thankgod we didn't have to deal with another major incident today. My sympathies to the families of the two that were killed.
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Living in New York, we were all a bit cautious at first about what happened.Although now, it seems it was a genuine accident and our thoughts should go out to the families of those that lost their lives.Sad to hear about the Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle.May you rest in peace.
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Crashes like these happen all over the globe. I remember one in Italy a few years back. Air traffic safety must upgrade the standard of flight over areas of high population density to that of helicopter and emergency use only.
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My condolonces to the people who were killed. Although I would like to bring up something important.
In another part of the world it was reported today that 655,000 may have been killed due to the war. But all media attention goes to 2-4 people who were killed in the US.
It's funny how some news can never make it to the headlines no matter how drastic they might be. Infact it never made it to any of the major american news networks.
While people are talking about the 4 people who were killed in this accident, I would like to ask those people to ponder about the 655,000 too.
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How in the world the U.S. authorities remain giving permisions to fly over Manhattan? I can´t belive it. Someone please explain.
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Terrorism or not, people still died. The loss of life for ANY reason is a sad thing.
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Don't everyone jump to the conlusion that its a terrorist attack let the experts deal with the situtation
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I don't want to be rude or disrespct what is obviously a tragic loss of life. But does this topic really need to commented on by the general public? Surely there is much more important news from all over the world that could be taken up by this forum. Sometimes the BBC leaves me bewildered, and this is one of those moments.
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What is there to say. This seems to be a complete accident with absolutely no link to terrorism; but no doubt certain officials will make a meal of it regardless!
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Is this really worth the coverage it's getting?
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Please can we (the bbc, readers of the website) try to avoid fanning the predictable hysterical over-reaction to this and avoid creating a story out of not a lot; it isn't "another 9/11", there aren't necessarily important lessons to be learned, nor a need for an enquiry etc. This evening I happened to drive past a house which had recently been much more badly damaged by a car swerving off the road on a country lane, and I doubt that made even the local news at the time.
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Glad to see they managed to scramble some fighter jets this time. Something they did far too late on the 11th September 2001.
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I truly sympathise with the bereaved of these four people, but the BBC's fixation with America has reached new heights when this is the top story on the same day we are told, by the same organisation, that 600,000 Iraqis have been killed in the Iraq war. If true, that's more than either Britain or America lost in the second world war. Even if wildly exagerrated, it's still many more than four.
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I think people need to keep a sense of perspective and not panic so much. It just leads to trouble otherwise.
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Please don't blame muslims yet again.. Pre-election capaign for republicans in progress?? God save us all!!
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My sympathy for the victims and their families.
It was very clear early on that this wasn't linked to terrorism so why is it getting such prominient coverage? 5 people died in a train crash in France today and I had to go to the Europe page to find this out.
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ok - so basically, a small plane can hit a building in new york city, still, today after all the safety measures and delays we are put thru day in day out, not to mention with air travel.
Amazing! Not sure what to believe anymore from our wonderful government.
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Thousands of people are perishing everyday in other parts of the world due to hunger, etc. no one cares; but a small plane crashes in New York and it is "big" news.
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"After the first trade center bombings, and 9/11 and all the subsequent terror alerts and then the massive blackout the city has learned not to panic and pull together, nyc is a tough city and in good in a crisis, ..." - Andy, nyc
I wouldn't be so sure about that. When the news of a plane hitting a building was broadcast via our security/public address system, I saw panic in the eyes of many, with some ready to bolt out of the building.
I was probably one of less than a handfull who initially thought "accident" instead of "Oh No! Another 9/11!!"
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My first thought, upon hearing this news, was "Oh no! Not again!".
All that we can do now is help the survivors in any way that we can.
My deepest sympathies go out to the families of those who died.
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Looks like a Tragic Accident. Condolences to Cory’s family and the injured.
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One would think that after something like September 11 happened, you would never see something like this again.
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It is sad that 4 people have died in the plane crash, however the US authorities decision confuses things.
The FBI say it's not terrorism, but the White House doesn't rule it out, and so there are fighter planes patrolling the skies.
Surely the American Public need reasuring that they are not under attack, because the last thing the world needs right now (with the situation with Iran and North Korea) is for america to go looking elswhere for apeasement
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Clearly this was an accident. It's terrible that people have been killed. But lets keep some perspective - it was an accident, not a terrorist attack. I know certain people will use this as an excuse to get hysterical, but just stay calm and accept that these things happen in life. This is not 9/11.
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Reports say the plane leveled off before going straight into the building. Could this have been a suicide? Whatever the case, a sad story indeed.
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I work a block away from the crash (Cornell Med.). After seeing the flames and the debris it's a miracle that the fatality was limited to pilots. This area has the highest concentration of doctors in NYC so I'm sure we would have been prepared to handle a more serious crash.
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We can take this as an accident.An accident is always created by human or mechanical errors.Hopefully,it is not related to any terrorism.
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We cannot now after 9/11 assume that any plane crash is terrorist-related. Unfortunately, this incident has to be seen for what it is - a tragic accident resulting in the deaths of four people.
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I live in the United States, and when the media started flashing reports, I was worried that 9/11 was happoning for a second time. Thank goodness it was only an accident. It was a scare for many New Yorkers, and others.
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Too many headlines for such a little thing
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It's so incredible, the priorities of the media are so warped. Now the story leads with "Yankee pitcher killed in crash", as if that is somehow more important than the shock and disruption and the others that have died.
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Obviously a plane crashing into a tower block in New York is going to invoke fears of a terrorist attack. Thankfully it appears that this is not the case. However look at the date this has happened on. The 11th October. Cruel concidence?
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Well its quite sad that this happen and few people including a sportsman lost his life.
I hope the Bush administration will not find some link between the Pitcher and the Islamic extremist as usually they do and if not this they will be fast enough to say that he is one of the man who convery to Islam.
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It is interesting but I bet that this building is not going to colapse but a building which was part of the World Trade Center complex (Building 7) collapsed even thoguh no plane had hit it. Strange don't you think?
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A horrible scary reminder.
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I only hope no one will come with a story saying that this is all about Republicans and Bush administration trying to win the upcoming elections. 10/11 (Ten/Eleven) fortunately just an accident. No politics and no hype.
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I'm waiting for the White House to somehow blame this on the Democrats. They're very creative about twisting tragedy into political advantage and I have no doubt that at this very moment they're all putting their collective heads together to find a way to use this. I can't image they have the humanity or the class or even the morals to let a chance like this pass them by without scoring some points off from it. Come on Karl Rove and George W.! Surly you can at least find a way to blame this on terror or to say that only Bush can protect America from small planes with amateur pilots!
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An unfortunate accident. Also, credit to the FBI for declaring early on that this was not terrorism related. I'm sure that saved a lot of us from panicking.
However, I am dismayed to see the amount media attention this crash is grabbing, while the other HUGE piece of news today, that 655,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the American invasion of Iraq goes mostly uncovered. Come on people, let's shake out of our attitude that each American life is worth much more than several Iraqi lives, and take a moment to pay respect to those who died in Iraq, most probably helpless, hapless and hungry.
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This is no worse than a traffic accident. It doesn't merit the coverage it is being given. It's very sad that Cory Lidle, the Yankees pitcher, who only got his pilot's license last year, fouled up in this way. So do hundreds of kids in cars.
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I live near to the crash site. I was out doing errands when I saw the tragedy on the tv in a store. It's so sad. I don't know any of the details. It was overcast but not raining (as it is now).
Reminded me a little of the 9/11/01 horror.
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I'm happy that this is an accident, another terrorist attack would have probably lead to another 625,000 murders in Iraq and the invasion of other countless other nations.
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It just goes, to show how fragile life really is. As a baseball fan, and a yankee fan, this has kind of hit me really hard. The players to me, are like family, even though I've never met them. It's simply horrible to see that something like this could happen. I my mind it was simply an accident and Liddle and his flight instructor were probably trying to ditch the plane in the East River, but had no control of the plane. Again as a Fan I believe Grantland Rice said it best. "It matter not that you won or lost, but how you played the game." RIP COREY
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My thoughts seem to have already been aired by a few like-minded people. That is, how the media and others decide this is an important bulletin when there are serious crimes being commited across the world that either go unreported or are twisted into lies and propaganda.
At first, after being told about a "plane crashing into a building in NY", of course I thought of terrorism. After reading the first report I found, I soon realised that it is a local issue, yet I'm sure "condolences" are going to be sent from allied Nations all over the world. I also assume it will be front-page coverage in tomorrows's tabloids.
It goes to show that something is expected and waiting to be happened.
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This plane was not supposed to be where it was (flying under "visual rules"), and this is after 9/11.
Obviously the security measures put in place are flawed and don't prevent incidents like this one. It could have been a terror attack. I am relieved that it wasn't but I don't feel any safer.
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As a Yankees fan, I am very saddened to feel such pain over yet another player dying in a plane crash. 25 years ago a beloved and very good player named Thurman Munson perished in a private plane crash in Ohio. I don't know English football at all to compare, but Cory Lidle is not a "US baseball star" as the BBC reports. This surreal event today, however, which unfolded with one incredulous detail after another does not involve a player of that magnitude, has highlighted that life makes sport look quite insignificant.
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Why does this unfortunate accident merit a "Have Your Say" topic whereas 665,000 dead Iraqis does not, nor the endless thousands that are dying in Africa and elsewhere?
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"Few dead Americans... who cares?"
Phil, Leeds
You care enough to write and show your contempt for these “few dead Americans”
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When I heard about the crash, the reporter first said that it was a Yankees pitcher that died in the crash, THEN they said it wasn't terror related.
I was left to wonder under what circumstances would a New York Yankees baseball star would decide to join a terrorist group and fly a plane into a building.
I talked with my Dad about it and they said people were on TV all day speculating and hypothesizing as to what was going on, rather than waiting for the actual facts to come out.
Someone questioned why this should be such a big deal. It's because the media, at least in the US, feel the need to sensationalize and feed our fears.
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How strange, the building the plane hit never collapsed like the world trade centre...hmmmm Also, fighter planes patrolling the skies straight away - yet the F-16s where 'delayed' by a few hours on 11th Sep 01.
Never-the-less, my heart goes out to all of those who died and their respective families.
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An accident occured and four people died - sad but not really worth debating.
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As a British New York Yankees fan i am totally shocked and gutted that our pitcher has been involved in such a horrible accident. My thoughts and prayers are with his wife melanie and son christopher. Cory you were on your way to being an ace of the squad and you have been taken away from us before you could do great things. Philidephia Phillies and New York Yankees fans are going to miss him. I can imagine Cory and Babe Ruth talking ball and having a game in the big baseball diamond in the sky along with some of the baseball greats.
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New York Hospital is two blocks south of the crash site. If the plane had hit the hospital, it would have been terrible. I was shocked to learn that anyone in a small plane can fly along the East River, I hope this causes such casual air traffic to be forbidden.
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This is not international news worthy. If anything it shows how transfixed the Americans are with their own well being. Every time a plane crashes in the US is it going to get the same headline news?
It's sad for those involved and the periphery but that is where it ends.
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i dont really think this a subject for "Have You Say". What kind of opinions or debate were you expecting from this? There's really nothing to say. It's sad, it's sucks and i'm sorry for the victim's families of course but beyond poor aviation or mechanical failure this is not a topic with any real tangents or inferences of interest. It's just a sad bizarre acident. Save this feature for issues or questions.
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This is a clear example that our major cities are not safe at all. Even after 911 and all the billions spent on securing America; still, plane is hitting a building which air space was to be a "NO FLY ZONE" God help us.
Donald, from Omaha, NE
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I must say I am shocked by a number of comments. This is obviosuly going to get high coverage due to the nature of the incident. There is only so much the goverment can do to stop incidents like this happening short of barring flights over major cities. The autohriites do monitor air traffic but generally focus on the larger aircraft that can cause more damage. I beleive this to be an unfortunate accident. You can hardly blame the New Yorkers for there reaction to this. Just imagine how Londoners would react to an accident or incident on the tube on the tube.
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Rest In Peace, Corey. MY heart goes out to you and to your family.
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My sympathies goes out to the families of those who died in this tragic Incident it is clear that this was not a terrorist incident but a pure accident despite this I can still fully understand why fighter planes are flying over a number of American cities because Immediately after it happened the scene of the accident looked similar to the terrible atrocities of 5 year's ago.America does have the right the same as any other country to be prepared and to defend itself If Terrorist's choose to hi-jack planes and attempt to committ mass murder by crashing them into building's or blowing them up let us hope and pray that these incidents NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
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Why is everybody in an uproar about this? It was an accident, nothing more. People, get it into your heads that this is not another 9/11.
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why is this headline news?. Surely the headline about 650,000 iraqis dead is slightly more important than two dead americans?.
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My condolensces to the families, and to everyone affected by this tragedy.
I wanted to write and say that aircraft, large and small, continue to fly at low altitudes, not only over the East and Hudson Rivers, but often criss-crossing the city.
Jumbo jets fly directly over mid-Manhattan, sometimes at very low altitudes. This stopped for awhile after 9/11, but for the past couple of years, planes are back to flying directly over the city.
I wish this would stop, and I wish there would be a permanent ban on air traffic directly over Manhattan.
Ashley
New York, NY
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I feel nothing but sorrow for the victims families, and my hearts go out to them.
But in my opinion, an equally large tragedy is the fact that on hearing the first reports of the accident, I, like a lot of people around the world, would have instantly thought "terrorist attack". A sad testament to the times we live in....
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As a pilot in NYC, let me tell you all this: you have to realize that the VFR (visual flight) corridor up the East River in basically at or under 1000 feet altitude, and ends at 96th Street, which means you have to make a turn (usually a left hand turn) before you get to 96th. This building is at the very eastern corner of 72nd street, in aviation terms, its right on the river. Mess up your turn, and its a pretty hard target not to miss. Plus, keep in mind that this guy was a new pilot, under 100 hours, although he did have an instructor aboard, who is technically in command. Also, LOTS of planes tour up and down the East River, we even have our own air traffic channel for that area.
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I am a reporter who covers New York sports, and while there may be other stories that rank higher in the day's pecking order, this is news in both New York and all around the country where baseball is in its postseason. I spent the early evening in a rain-soaked Shea Stadium, home of the Mets and where a playoff series was about to begin as former teammates of Lidle's expressed their shock and sadness. Lidle was a decent pitcher, not a great one, but was well-respected as a teammate and a person. Every sports fan knows the type.
Each news story has its own relevance for its own reasons. If not, then only one news story would run per day. Take this for what it is, others for what they are.
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American navel gazing once again. 650,000 have been killed in Iraq so far and car crashes everywhere are claiming more by the hour!
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I agree with Tom from Brighton that this is not a subject for comment. It was an accident and a tradgedy.
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Am I the only one who is outraged over this? Not by the coverage, but rather by the fact that this happened at all, and will probably continue to happen. Is there a reason why inexperienced/trainee pilots are allowed to fly in an area with a high population density & tall buildings? Because people who fly planes are wealthy & get to do whatever they want? Public safety, noise & air pollution are obviously not a concern to the FAA. Restricting recreational pilots to upstate New York & over the ocean seems practical to me.
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I feel sorry for the victims, but don't try to make it look larger than life headline story. Just shut up and get on with other important news.
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What seems remarkable is how casual local leaders here in the northeast U.S. are about domestic security, even as we're kept on constant alert to dangers from terror from abroad. This crash revealed that a student pilot was allowed to fly over a city with more 40-story buildings than all the rest of the U.S. Also, there was the massive power outage of 2003, which hit the entire northeast U.S. and which showed how easily Manhattan can be turned quickly into a trap for tens of thousands, without any foreign attack. We've never learned what caused that outage. And in a society in which moneyed interests predominate, there's a pervasive fatalism that knowing why is really "none of our business."
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The only thing I would like to say is that I wish the BBC would change the headline from "Aircraft hits New York building" to "Yankee Pitcher dies in plane crash". This story doesn't merit that sensational of a headline. I agree with many others here that there are bigger and better things to be focusing on, such as the recent report on the Iraqi civilian death toll.
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Why is this headline news people? Next to headlines like, "Global Child Abuse," and "650,000 dead Iraqis," it seems outrageous if not altogether irresponsible journalism. Then again, a New York yankees' pitcher was thought to be in the plane. My condolences to the families, but we need to do better.
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This is not a worthy front page news item. There is no need for media hype surrounding a tragic, but politically irrelevant accident.Continual hype of this nature keeps the American public on edge and less likely to question the appalling human rights abuses committed by the US administration at home and abroad.
On a personal note: a close friend of mine died in the attacks on the World Trade Center. Fanned by innuendo and rumor from American media outlets grossly insensitive coworkers spread misinformation like media Typhoid Marys. I felt yet another panic attack coming on and fled my office. Five years have passed now but the slightest provocation rips open the wounds yet again.
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Flying small aircraft is a dangerous. With the large numbers of amateur pilots out there it would not be surprising if this sort of thing happened more often. I am terribly sorry for the victims and families. I do hope the residents of the building set a precident by sueing everyone involved in keeping that plane in the air.
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How strange, the building the plane hit never collapsed like the world trade centre...hmmmm Also, fighter planes patrolling the skies straight away - yet the F-16s where 'delayed' by a few hours on 11th Sep 01.
Sharif, Scotland
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This was a light aircraft, not a passenger jet, and therefore the building hasn't critical structual damage on any scale like the Twin Towers. We call that Physics. As for your rubbish about delayed Fighter patrols...
The US is in a state of readiness; that's why jets were scrambled quickly. 9/11 wasn't expected.
You really shouldn't post here without thinking things through
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I think that the New York Security has been severely comprimised with this incident. The fact that this plane was small does not make the incident any less significant. Small maybe, however if it was loaded with explosives it could have caused greater damage than 9/11 if planned correctly. The US authorities Need to waken up to their complacent security coverage and provide adequate protection to prevent ANY fixed wing aircraft entering such densely populated areas. This incident has also provided the potential terrorists with confirmation that the existing flaws in the so called "High Level of Security" keep the door to infultration, well and trully open and this is totally unacceptable.
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ok, normally i would be on the side of the readers who feel that this plane crash should not be such a big story, but this time i must respectfully disagree. it has been 5 years since two commercial airliners crashed into the twin towers, but unless your city has experienced such a devastating, extreme act of terrorism, you really cannot understand the lingering fears. and for those who don't get this: cory lidle was a star on the new york ynakees baseball team. this may not be big news to people in other countries, but it sure is a big deal here. you don't have to feel the same, but give us new yorkers (and americans) the opportunity to reflect on this freaky, scary incredibly sad tragedy.
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Tragic, obviously, but why is this still headline news after it's been established it was not a terrorist act? The BBC is not an American news agency. What about our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would rather hear about the return of one of our batallions to the UK than the death of an American baseball player I have never heard of.
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I mean no disrespect to anyone, but when does the fact that North Korea tested nuclear weapons become far less important than an airplane crash? I could also ask when does the crisis in Darfur become less important? Is anyone doing anything in Darfur...? While we sit here and feel some sort of sadness for the death of a baseball player, do we feel that sadness for the people dying in Darfur even as we speak?
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Ok everyone, if you are a New Yorker this is a big deal. Not just because we are all sensitive to the 9/11 reminders but because the person who crashed the plane and died was NY Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle. Its a big deal for the city and the sports fans. On the other hand, if you are a Brit, I can imagine you couldnt care less. Whether you care or not, its a horrible tragedy.
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Alright, this is bad. But it wasn't terrorism. A study just came out saying 655,000 Iraqis have died since the American invasion. Does no one see anything wrong with this? I'm looking at the other comments, and people are saying basically the same thing as me. Why doesn't the media take a clue? I mean this entire country isn't retarted and its not like we will only respond to sensationalist plane crashes. We do want to hear about other things. And why the hell is this the top story on a British website??
The plane was owned by New York Yankees baseball pitcher Cory Lidle. US Media reports say he was piloting the plane at the time and died in the crash.
As a precaution, fighter planes are now flying over a number of US cities but the FBI have said there is no indication that the crash is terrorism-related.
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