Do we need green taxes?

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The government is considering environmental taxes to try to tackle global warming.

The Environment Secretary, David Miliband, has said he is discussing the issue with the Treasury, but has refused to confirm details.

The comments come ahead of a report expected to warn that the economic cost of not dealing with climate change would be vast.

Will green taxes be effective in tackling climate change? What environmental taxes would you like? Is this the best way to halt global warming?

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Written by veritas1 on Sun Oct 29 19:00:30 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

We need a revolution. The blithering idiots running this country need to know they are accountable...john darcy
Absolutely agree John, the only point I would differ on, is that we need that revolution right now.
I am sick, tired and fed up with this arroaganr self centred government telling me what I can and cannot do.
Lets have a revolution, if they can manage it in Romania, to remove a despotic dictator, surely we can?

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Written by johndarcy on Sun Oct 29 18:41:45 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

We need a revolution. The blithering idiots running this country need to know they are accountable...

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Written by tr3mor on Sun Oct 29 19:58:51 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

In 1900 there were roughly 2 billion people in the world. There are now around 6 billion people in the world! Something has got to give.

We cull animals for damaging their habitat? Why not have a cull of humans?

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Written by TRI_COOL on Sun Oct 29 21:06:12 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"Im sorry do we not pay 7.50 per 10.00 of fuel already, add to that road tax, Maybe im just an idiot but do we not need our cars to get to work in, and does this not drive the economy?, TAX is all thie goverment knows, deal with the big poluters and stop taking the easy way out you cowards.

Doctor of Everything"

Yes, you are an idiot, as can be proved by your complete lack of ability to use the English Language.

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Written by doctork8vin on Sun Oct 29 21:13:46 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Yes, you are an idiot, as can be proved by your complete lack of ability to use the English Language.

Tri Cool

Your obviously one of the do gooders the UK loves so much, I bet you get your kicks from laughing at old ladies who pee themselves. GET A LIFE, Freedom of speach and all that.

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Written by Anne_Australian on Sun Oct 29 21:25:19 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

"Your obviously one of the do gooders the UK loves so much, I bet you get your kicks from laughing at old ladies who pee themselves. GET A LIFE, Freedom of speach and all that.

Doctor of Everything"

I think that the case made by TRI COOL is proven. Perhaps you should use some of your spare time learning to spell, rather than making a complete fool of yourself here.

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Written by singingmountaineer on Sun Oct 29 22:31:40 UTC 2006. 4 recommendations.

"Maybe we should stop rewarding people for having children and start educating the world to go for smaller families, before it's too late?"

Hear! Hear!

Well said that man.

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Written by Treacleminer on Sun Oct 29 19:05:52 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

So I guess the revenue from these Green taxes will go to house immigrants and the reduction in UK cars on the roads will make room for more immigrants cars?

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Written by Ieuan Sharp on Mon Oct 30 07:14:04 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

...and to continue they try blinding us with lies, stating this tax is needed for environmental purposes, but what do you think they'll use it on? No less than the Iraq, and afganistan war, cos their complete idiots, who followed bush up the backside, and are realy after more oil, and you tell me? whats the use if the bloody yanks, wont show any commitment, when they are the biggest contributers to global warming, You don't need to pay to be green, anyway with these idiot in power we're screwed

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Written by geomath on Mon Oct 30 08:56:41 UTC 2006. 38 recommendations.

It is clear from BBC news reporting that the BBC have a policy of promoting the concept of "global warming" being caused by human activity. There has been almost no intelligent debate hosted by the BBC on this and the few people who are interviewed who hold the contrary position are neither respected nor articulate enough to hold their own. If you say something often enough people will start to believe it. The BBC is responsible for a developing panic of unproven doom, death and destruction.

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Written by geomath on Mon Oct 30 09:10:06 UTC 2006. 35 recommendations.

Please do not mention the BBC in these pages as your comment will be swiftly removed!

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Written by whyIamstillhere on Mon Oct 30 12:16:18 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Adrian Moore You are the reason we are in this mess. What a load of rubbish. So it is only 4x4s that have made this mess is it? GET REAL we are an easy target.Lets tax people with large houses that use heat & energy in rooms that are not in use.No, no of course not-just the motorist with the 4x4.If we are going to pay as we go, great but for everything & everyone.I won't have to contribute to schooling for kids I dont have,libraries I dont use,benefits I dont getetc etc. Bring it on FOR EVERYONE

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Written by DannySAllen on Mon Oct 30 12:48:32 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Tax rises will only mean that only richer folk will be able to drive or take foreign holidays. If the government is serious about this, how about banning import or manufacture of cars that do < 30mpg, banning electrical equipment which is impossible to easily turn fully off, banning patio heaters, giving grants to insulate homes, install domestic generators, efficient heating and windows. Surely these steps (and plenty more) are within our governments control, and can be quickly achieved ?

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Written by scottiedowg on Mon Oct 30 14:00:29 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Peter Sym, Nottingham, Fair comment Peter however this was 14 years ago and was result of a war against Sadam which should have been done and dusted 14 years ago, It was not.. this is 2006, different world since 911 which I hasten to add was not a Iraqi attack. When It comes down to it the UK people are funding a war with a leader who is telling us to reduce pollution.. Hypacritical wouldn't you say? That money would be better spent in the UK..

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Written by perfectreddog on Mon Oct 30 14:26:46 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

All this propaganda about Africans carrying the burden of global warming, in reality what will change, they have resources now but are too passive (polite word) to get them out of the ground and instead wait for us the West to fill their begging bowls. It is politically incorrect to state they are generally a nuisance and global warming could be a blessing in disguise.

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Written by Webstu1234 on Mon Oct 30 14:38:12 UTC 2006. 4 recommendations.

Here we go again more cr*p from this stupid government, I hope everyone has learnt their lesson and won't be voting for disgraceful labour ever again. Tony Blair doesn't deserve more bonuses out of our money, he deserves to be homeless and on the street for what he has done to this country.

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Written by scotbot on Mon Oct 30 15:05:41 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"Human populations will die as the enviroment cannot support human life." ~ Peter Byrd, UK

"Might not be such a bad thing. The world would probably be a better place for all in it without most, or even all, of us." Graeme Dobbin, Strathaven, UK


I doubt the world would miss Strathaven, Stonehouse, or Darvel much. So, if you want to start, start with yourself.

Anyway, there are many places where people starve each year, but apart from idlie chit chat, not much is done to stop it.

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Written by richa3s on Mon Oct 30 15:28:10 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Has anyone else noticed that to use the words "Blair" and "Tony", in no particular order, nigh on guarantees a comment to be airbrushed by the moderators.

I might replace it with the "Enver Hoxha" next time and see if I have more luck!

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Written by bennPIM on Mon Oct 30 15:13:32 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Recycling!
The BBC is currently running a piece about the possibilities of recycling old plastic on BBC news 24 from Wales.
There’s is a company in Bedwas NR Cardiff which can take any old plastic and are currently making huge hording boards for Bovis (the builders) for a major redevelopment site in the city centre. Products already made include roofing tiles, sewage pipes and even emergency houseing for disaster areas.

How did you MISS this ?

3DMworldwide. Unit 3
Bedwas House Inds est

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Written by slinkyconroy on Mon Oct 30 15:43:47 UTC 2006. 5 recommendations.

Why does the BBC constantly lead with stories originating from 10 Drowning Street.
It's all a distraction.
The real news is the carnage in Iraq and Blair's involvement in the cash for honours scandal.
Blair may wish to make saving the planet his legacy but we all know that history will put him along-side Hitler,Stalin and Bin Laden as the monsters of our era.

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Written by simon_patterson on Mon Oct 30 16:34:42 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

I've got an idea how to get the government to reduce council tax. Just don't pay it! They've got no room in prisons for anyone so just imagine if the whole country didn't pay it. What could they do? What joy!

I know I'm slightly off the subject of green taxes here, but council tax has to be reduced. People simply can't afford it.

Whatever they're talking about doing with taxes, it's time to start thinking about the individual as well as the bigger picture.

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Written by Harry-Flashman on Mon Oct 30 17:28:54 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

If you don't want to do anything about global warming fine. Just don't expect you lies to go unchallenged.
James Davey,

James Davey is the world's biggest liar.
He claims to have a degree but he dropped out of school with two 'O' levels, and one of those is in woodwork.

He hasn't had a job or a girlfriend for ten years and he smells!

Se. Being offensive is easy.
Calling people a liar is easy.
It contributes nothing to the argument.
By the way, you are wrong about your examples

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Written by whyIamstillhere on Mon Oct 30 19:23:50 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

Emission level generation quotas should be governed strictly by populaion & land mass of each country.

Pradip Shah, Mumbai, India

Then you would profit from a population growth out of control?

But most of India lives over here in the UK dont they?

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Written by LifeofReilly on Mon Oct 30 22:24:39 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

One thing is sure, world war is coming.

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Written by slinkyconroy on Tue Oct 31 09:09:23 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Any issue being promoted by New Labour must be treated with great suspicion.

They have cried wolf far too many times.

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Written by oldinage on Tue Oct 31 08:44:10 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

Well look at that! The Isle of Wight has rejected plans for a wind farm.
So raise THIER taxes for doing so!
I personally, don't believe in global warming. I think it's just part of the planet's natural cylce. However, At a time when it is in such high profile, I find it laughable that people are still concerned about the 'looks' of where they live.
If you're that worried about global warming, then you will HAVE to make some sacrifices. Live with it!

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Written by RightyRightwing on Tue Oct 31 08:59:46 UTC 2006. 4 recommendations.

'I am still yet to read one item of evidence to support man made global warming.

Righty Rightwing'

""International Journal of Climatology. Lots of evidence, all of it peer reviewed.

Colin Walls, Wilmslow, United Kingdom ""

Of course their peers have reviewed it - they have as much to gain from this hocus pocus as the so called researchers. Look at the title of the publication! Telling us that they don't know anything concrete at all would scupper all that lovely research cash.

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Written by peterlondon2 on Tue Oct 31 09:34:34 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

This tax should be only paid by corporations, and profits on shareholdings. The normal "poor" people ie, those earning less than £70k per year should be exempt from any added enviro taxes, the normal people should not end up bolstering the rich people, leaving them relatively untaxed, they should pay more as their wealth has been made out of the enviroment. i dont see why the normal people have to pay the majority of this tax, as they havent got rich from big corporations, and products that are now deemed to be bad for the enviroment. Leave the end user alone, and hit the corporations and their share holders in their profits, also stop companies serving the UK offshore, to protect our economy, otherwise the UK will be hit hard by recession.

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Written by Harry-Flashman on Tue Oct 31 10:48:43 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Religion - Science?
God - AGW
Devil - Big business
Saints - Greenpeace
Evil - CO2
Hellfire - Global Warming
Armageddon - Rising seas
Penitence - Lifestyle reduction
Tithe - Green taxes
Heretics - Sceptics
Another millennium, another myth.
Peter Main,

Also
Prophets - Jonathan Porrit et al
Daemons - Jeremy Clarkson
Sacred Texts - Mann et al 'The Hockey Stick.'
Salvation - Reversing the GW trend
Damnation - Not doing so
Sunday worship - Going to the recycling centre

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Written by dontbedaft on Tue Oct 31 11:02:49 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Decentralised energy.

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Written by stubooth on Tue Oct 31 12:06:10 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Euthanise all the old people and sterilise the Asians, thats the best way to stop the increase in population growth and therefore, you would reduce the problem with CO2. job done, next!

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Written by mizuno1 on Tue Oct 31 12:51:41 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

phil b, United Kingdom

I am angry with Tony about the Iraq war, not those you mentioned above. I think you can find many ppl angry with Tony regarding this issue in any region of this countries.

Not neccessary the gay, or whatever you mentioned.

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Written by CharlesBradlaugh on Tue Oct 31 12:48:44 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

People are now getting EXTREMELY angry Mr Blair.

Ken Thompson, United Kingdom


Who are these angry people? The same ones who are angry about immigrants,traffic cameras, veils, gay marriages etc etc. I luckily very rarely meet tem, unless I wonder into a dodgy pub by mistake, easy to leave once you see the bad haircuts and shellsuits though. UK taxes are moderate and in the median for the rest of the world. I pay the highest rate and strangely am not struggling with my terrible tax burden

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Written by always_pulled_off on Tue Oct 31 12:56:42 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Who are these angry people? The same ones who are angry about immigrants,traffic cameras, veils, gay marriages etc etc. I luckily very rarely meet tem, phil b,

You may not meet angry people, but you must have made a few people angry in your Trade Union days.
So glad you have enough money to pay Brown’s success tax. You must be paid out of the public purse and have an Index linked pension.
Most of us are not that lucky.
Most of us struggle to afford our lives now.

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Written by factdoubter on Tue Oct 31 12:56:05 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"Who are these angry people? The same ones who are angry about immigrants,traffic cameras, veils, gay marriages etc etc. I luckily very rarely meet them."

phil b

It sounds as though they are the luckier not meeting such a blinkered person as you. Just because peoples views difer from yours it does not make them any less deserving of being heard.

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Written by godless on Sun Oct 29 18:26:44 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

I would pay green taxes if they did any good. The trouble is they would only apply to the UK and not anywhere else. So that makes them just another tax for the government to squander

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Written by David Thomas on Sun Oct 29 19:44:28 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Just think of how many sales people use car to visit clients to sell products or services.The vast miles the cover and excessive fuel. Companies now provide allowances for these sales people to buy cars and travel to their clients.

Target the companies, the allowances and change the selling process to incorporate a much more environmental approach. With telephone technology going in leaps and bounds it is easy to talk and present your products and services to clients by using the internet.

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Written by David Collins on Sun Oct 29 19:35:09 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Unless Mr Blair can persuade his poodle master (or the Chinese for that mater) to sign up to Kyoto it’s all rather meaningless and potentially will help to subsidise our competitors. I rather think that the Government realises this so will pitch the tax levels just high enough to be a cash cow without really changing anything for the better environmentally. Still it helps us f eel virtuous as our jobs go west (or east)! Emit some CO2 Tony and go to Washington (one way unless you change W).

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Written by angrybrit on Sun Oct 29 19:57:54 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"Population control is the only real green policy – and its not PC so nocando!

john Edward, Reading"

Tell it like it is......every single person uses fuel in one form or another, why are we importing hundreds of thousands (millions if you count asylam and illegal immigration). Many of whom are reproducing faster than the indigenous population. Madness. (counting down to removal of post!)

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Written by ANDREW on Mon Oct 30 07:08:50 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

An interesting fact:If we could reduce the amount of Global warming emmissions produced by the United kingdom in one year to zero...China would replace this amount of emmission in 86 days.
So what good does any of this do.China and many large countries are not intersted in Global warming issues...so these taxes are just for the benefit of the UK Exchequer.

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Written by nealeu on Mon Oct 30 09:55:33 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

What a surprise. Look at all the messages from selfish morons who've been taken in by the doubt ridden media, and climate change deniers.

That's only point of Green Taxes... to start getting through to you people who complain. People want to LOWER your income tax, and you complain.

You then get to choose if you pay the green taxes, just like idiots do the lottery.

You morons are Thatcher's legacy. A dumbed down society spewing out rubbish from the Daily Mail.

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Written by FubarBritain on Mon Oct 30 10:04:04 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

If they really want to reduce Britain's carbon footprint, stop accepting immigrants and kick out the ones who are already here to bring Britain's population closer to what it should be for an island this size. Half of them hate it here anyway and burn our flag and blow us up, so we'd be doing everyone a favour!

Taxing doesn't stop a behaviour if that behaviour is the only one on offer, and since public transport in this country sucks so hard, everyone will still drive but will vote Labour out.

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Written by boisterousbenny on Mon Oct 30 12:32:28 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

STOP BURRYING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND PEOPLE! Why are scientists banging on about climate change? Because its real!!! Get out of your Chelsea tractors and on your bikes! Oh yeah - you're not responsible enough to do that - I reckon the government should twist your arm somehow...

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Written by Dan_de_Douvres on Mon Oct 30 12:34:43 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"This is not a Communist plot (dear Melanie in the Daily Mail). It is real." John Rhys, London, United Kingdom

Melanie Phillips is hate-filled, and an embarrasment to journalism.

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