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Should drivers have to pay to use the roads?

Road charging is the unavoidable answer to cut traffic congestion, a government-commissioned report will warn.

The inquiry into future transport options for the UK was commissioned by Chancellor Gordon Brown and carried out by the former chief executive of British Airways, Sir Rod Eddington.

It also proposes the expansion of several major airports, including Heathrow, and the improvement of current roads and railways.

Is road pricing the best way to tackle congestion? Will it encourage you to use other forms of transport? How can rail services be improved? Do you have any other suggestions? Send us your comments.

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Written by dhimmi on Fri Dec 01 08:48:21 UTC 2006. 14 recommendations.

Welcome to the new Britain, where there are always two ideas, and two ideas only, to solve a supposed problem:

1 - Make the public pay for it
2 - Ban it.

Joy.

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Written by afrosia on Fri Dec 01 08:45:08 UTC 2006. 4 recommendations.

This country is screwed.

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Written by ccrazed on Fri Dec 01 08:53:32 UTC 2006. 4 recommendations.

I think it is time that the Queen took control of the situation and got rid of Blair and the Labour party. They have done nothing but destroy the UK and will continue to do so as long as they can to fill their pockets.

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Written by Petestar1969 on Fri Dec 01 08:50:25 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

damn I can't type today.... scowling at the typos in my earlier post. :(

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Written by dhimmi on Fri Dec 01 08:50:15 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"Illegal wars"

There are no illegal wars that Britain is involved in.

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Written by nohandwringing on Fri Dec 01 09:02:52 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

What planet are you on mate ???????

Dave Savage, United Kingdom

Presumably, since he is correct, Earth.

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Written by Phil_Lewin on Fri Dec 01 08:07:38 UTC 2006. 107 recommendations.

P.S. BBS: Stop removing my posts after several days and hundreds of reccommendations because you suddenyl decide you don't like their content anymore.

Again - disgusting.

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Written by englishdave2 on Fri Dec 01 09:02:42 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

I assume this applies equally to Gordons friends North of the border?.I doubt it somehow.
This has got nothing to do with congestion its just another Tax grab for the English taxpayer
by a greedy and corrupt Scot dominated Government.

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Written by rjc1008 on Fri Dec 01 09:14:34 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Chris Haynes from London says: `Council Tax has almost doubled. Pay As You Go road taxation. Illegal wars. Illegal immigrants. Huge mosques...'

Oh we need more mosques. You can't find a decent temple round here unless you're a Christian! Your average self respecting non-Christian is having to travel miles!

:-)

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Written by marcusjphillips on Fri Dec 01 09:27:37 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

What do we pay road tax for? and why should the £28b be spent on public transport. As with everything else in this bloody country there's mass under funding. People drive on the motorway for a reason and it's not to clog the road up.

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Written by flipperth on Fri Dec 01 09:27:35 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

I AM NOT PAYING!

This is just another Beeching Report, another Poll Tax and another way for Gordon Brown to get hold of our hard earned cash! If all the money from the Road Tax and petrol duty went on transport, the problems would be solved in an instant. I moot that only a fraction of this money (if any) will go back into transport and is just another backdoor stelth tax.

ON YOUR BIKE, BROWN!

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Written by LabourIsntWorking on Fri Dec 01 09:39:18 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Anyone want to take the bet that the south east will be paying the lions share of this ? AGAIN ! Labour areas charged at 1p a mile and us "tories" in the south east, paying £2 to subsidise the lazy northers again !

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Written by gymknickersgirl on Fri Dec 01 10:10:55 UTC 2006. 6 recommendations.

Doesn't it always take a rich knighted nob to tell the rest of us how to spend our very hard earned money.
What does this guy know about living hand to mouth on the bread line, nothing!
So why doesn't he keep his fat rich gob shut and let the rest of us get on with our lives.

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Written by anubisrich on Fri Dec 01 09:41:10 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

So much negativity. I'm sure if the Government wrapped it up with a campaign slogan "Drive a mile and buy a bullet for our troops illegally stationed in Iraq". Hmm, not very catchy. How about, "Drive a mile, kill an Iraqi civilian". Thats better, we are a nation of hard hitting commercials after all.

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Written by michellegrand on Fri Dec 01 09:52:52 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Many people will not trust labour not to use the money to fill some other pocket - and I certainly wouldn't trust the tories either.
If road pricing is to be used, Singapore has a system that works, please can we NOT spend money on consultants and computer companies that don't deliver on time, and are alwasy late and over budget.
We are very keen on our own private boxes to go to work.
Is there any chance of companies working different hours and spreading the rush hours out for trains?

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Written by andrew_aiken on Fri Dec 01 10:07:58 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

This is madness - sheer madness.

Make sure this doesn't happen.

Sign my petition !! Its on

petitions.pm.gov.uk/GreenTaxes

I pay car tax - supposedly to pay for the upkeep of the roads. Hardly any of it is spent on transport infrastructure of any description.

I, like you, pay 400% tax on fuel. Enough already.

NB: it is something like 400%. The retailer gets about £1 for each gallon, petrol is often nearly £5 a gallon so the £4 or so in tax means the tax rate is about 400%

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Written by Harry-Flashman on Fri Dec 01 10:03:46 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Ha ha .... the old Tory measure of todays unemployment is 900,000 - whereas the preferred Labour measure is 1,500,000.
Remember 3,500,000 unemployed? I do.... which must have been 5,000,000 in reality.
So.... who's measure hid the reality better?
[DavidDaft],

Does that include the massed ranks of scroungers on long term sickness and invalidity benefits?

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Written by zorroo1 on Fri Dec 01 10:44:45 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

please sign the link below if you agree it is from the number 10 web page

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Written by barrylane on Fri Dec 01 10:59:07 UTC 2006. 5 recommendations.

Making travel impossibly expensive is not a solution, it's just another problem. Cheap & easy travel died the day the Conservatives sold our railways and buses to the rich - a folly clearly supported by Mr Blair's New Conservatives. The roads for which we pay so heavily are full because, for most of us, public transport is expensive and undesirable (Hell really is other people, after all). If we as a nation weren't so apathetic, Tony and his cronies would have had their heads on spikes long ago.

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Written by spanner345 on Fri Dec 01 11:12:13 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

With the proposed cut in M.O.T. requirements, linked with increased road charging costs. Giving with one hand and taking away with another comes to mind.
I am an M.O.T. tester and knowing the state some vehicles get into in one year, under the existing regulations
THE CHANCELLOR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING PEOPLE! just so he can sting the motorist at no net cost apart from deaths
Isn't there a word that means 'killing for money'?

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Written by DrJeremyBradshaw on Fri Dec 01 11:26:22 UTC 2006. 10 recommendations.

This government waste billions of our hard earned money in the pursuit of their police state. Stripping us of our liberty and now taxing our ability to move freely.

Also I wonder how much this pompous dimwit Sir Rod Eddington was paid to write this stupid report?

Where is Madame Guillotine when you need her!

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Written by nwo-watch on Fri Dec 01 11:15:55 UTC 2006. 4 recommendations.

More juicing of the masses and the pips are squeaking.

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Written by alzyboy on Fri Dec 01 11:14:22 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

We already pay massive tax to travel by car its called petrol,diesel and road tax, the bigger the car the more you pay ? simple really, or do this stupid government think we like sitting in traffic jams, and that going to work is not essential travel.It's just another tax on those that work. Come on Britain sign the petition.... petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

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Written by GREENSTER6 on Fri Dec 01 11:16:53 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

THIS GOVERNMENT WANTS ALL YOUR MONEY AND WANTS YOU TO COMMUTE BY BIKE TO YOUR NEEREST POST OFFICE 30 MILES AWAY TO PICK UP YOUR BENNIFIT CHEQUE BECAUSE IT IS ALMOST POINTLESS TO WORK IN THIS COUNTRY AS THEY TAX ALL THE BENNEFITS TO THE MAX.

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Written by spanner345 on Fri Dec 01 11:28:32 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

With the proposed cut in M.O.T. requirements, linked with increased road charging costs. Giving with one hand and taking away with another comes to mind.
I am an M.O.T. tester and knowing the state some vehicles get into in one year, under the existing regulations
THE CHANCELLOR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING PEOPLE! just so he can sting the motorist at no net cost apart from deaths
Isn't there a word that means 'killing for money'?

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Written by afrosia on Fri Dec 01 12:08:56 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

"Huge mosques being built in a Christian country."

Chris Haynes, London

Firstly mosques have nothing to do with the discussion.

Secondly this is NOT a Christian country. Would you morons please get it into your dense skulls that we are living in a SECULAR country, not a Christian country. This means that Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Jews etc all have equality.

We are not living under biblical law, please don't drag us all down to your level.

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Written by Hodmadod on Fri Dec 01 11:57:44 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

FACE THE FACTS, FOLKS!

THE GREAT SCOT GORDON IS HARD UP (AGAIN)!

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Written by winniebo on Fri Dec 01 12:17:17 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

To woo hoo this is a christian country you prat the others are excepted but 500 years ago it was christian and noone has changed that yet

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Written by peterlondon2 on Fri Dec 01 12:14:41 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

about time there was a shake up here in the UK, as the people are not happy with the mismanagement and abuse of their country, time to oust these jokers, a good bloody nose is what this government needs. time to take back whats ours!

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Written by veritas1 on Fri Dec 01 12:31:57 UTC 2006. 7 recommendations.

French style protests won't work.
France is a free domocratic country unlike this totalitarian police state we live it.
If you try protesting, you will just be arrested and charged under the Terrorism Act and thrown in jail indefinately.
Lets make a proper job of it.
What we need is a full scale revolution, too long to wait uintil the next election.
And will the other lot be any better?
The Romanians kicked out Ceausescu out, we can kick out Emporer Blair and is cretinous NuLabour cronies

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Written by BrigadierPompous on Fri Dec 01 12:41:26 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

Another bally loony idea from Blair's idiot factory.

I never did like Blair, or his father Lionel!

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Written by liamc2706 on Fri Dec 01 12:48:24 UTC 2006. 4 recommendations.

Just another V-sign from Blair and his idiots to the UK motorist.

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Written by leftwing on Fri Dec 01 12:39:47 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Labour will be out in the next election. I wonder who will come into power. The Tories seem to much like Labour. Not many people will vote for the Liberal Democrates as the righties don't like their name "liberal". Which leaves the Tories,UKIP and the British Nazi Party to battle it out. Maybe UKIP should come into power and we leave Europe and see what happens. If we "sink" so be it at least it will prove the Euro Sceptics right and if we "swim" I do not mind admiting I was wrong about Europe.

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Written by minnoc on Fri Dec 01 12:58:48 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

Britain is turning into some abstract nightmare.

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Written by space_nerd on Fri Dec 01 13:11:20 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Immigration isn't helping matters, when ever I go out it is virtually gaurenteed I will see at least one car with Polish number plates and I seriously doubt they are here on Holiday..

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Written by RichardKropotkin on Fri Dec 01 13:19:53 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

"The usual hysterical and ignorant HYS comments..... I despair. Can we have a calm, considered and level-headed debate for a change?! Russell Wade, Guildford"

I doubt it - not since HYS was virtually taken over by the anti-government, anti-tax brigade. This forum is not worth bothering with any more.

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Written by neilhoskins on Fri Dec 01 13:16:56 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

More depressing HYS nonsense from the great British Middle Class. Tell you what, guys, shall we just tarmac over the whole of Britain and have done with it? Let's all live 100 miles from where we work, shall we?

Let's get this straight, you want the government to invest in public transport, but you want them to magic the money out of thin air? You want motoring to be cheap, but then get surprised when the roads fill up?

You are, almost all, reactionary fools.

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Written by neilhoskins on Fri Dec 01 13:28:43 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Consider this my last post to the BBC HYS. My post disagreed with the majority and popped up straight away together with about four similar ones. All of them have now been removed. The moderation on these forums is biased.

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Written by widuran on Fri Dec 01 13:35:46 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Consider this my last post to the BBC HYS. My post disagreed with the majority and popped up straight away together with about four similar ones. All of them have now been removed. The moderation on these forums is biased.

Neil Hoskins, Aylesbury, United Kingdom

It is because many people have complained about your post as some people, usually right wingers cannot take it when someone disagrees with them. I disagree with these charges but your points must be allowed on these boards!

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Written by doctorjanedoe on Fri Dec 01 13:34:50 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Consider this my last post to the BBC HYS. My post disagreed with the majority and popped up straight away together with about four similar ones. All of them have now been removed. The moderation on these forums is biased.
Neil Hoskins, Aylesbury, United Kingdom

You can see all censored posts at:

newssniffer.newworldodour.co.uk/

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Written by Outjalie on Fri Dec 01 13:33:07 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

.Soon we will have to pay to use the bog
I bet if coronation street and eastenders were taken off the air then there will be riots in the streets!
look aroundus, United Kingdom

We do already pay to use the bog- part of my council tax bill is a water charge.

I think more of what I flush down bog than what I do of the incumbent government.
Kaiser Chiefs predicted a riot and by golly I reckon they're right on the money

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Written by ironmessenger on Fri Dec 01 13:50:53 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

More reason to move abroad away from this corrupt bunch of spineless, greedy, self serving, grasping morons and the sheep who let it happen.

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Written by leftwing on Fri Dec 01 14:04:09 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

This insidious recycled "big brother" marxist doctrine has been the dream of left wingers for decades.

Say no to New :abour tyranny - do not comply.

Righty Rightwing

Certainly NOT this left wingers dreams. As someone from the centre left I view this like Hitlers controlling regime. I.E it is more of a right wing control freak attitude where the tax is obtained from the POOR and given to the RICH in government. Much more extreme right politics.

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Written by Mark-UK on Fri Dec 01 14:01:48 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Julius caesar had to ban all wheeled vehicles from the rome streets during daylight hours due to congestion. Do we learn anything from history?

Paul Tapner, Poole, United Kingdom

So are you suggesting that we knife Gordon Brown to death in the Houses of Parliment?

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Written by painfulltruth on Fri Dec 01 14:28:09 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

Why doesn't Mr Brown just give us 50p pocket money every week and keep the rest.

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Written by akaSaddened on Fri Dec 01 14:25:29 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Can someone tell me...when is the revolution?

jim, harrow

Quite soon if the government keeps on doing this sort of thing!!

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Written by Rock angainst the LibLabs on Fri Dec 01 14:09:12 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

People have voted LibLab. You've got commies, lefties, marxists, tax yer all to hell Stalin types and destroy Britain. You've got spys with them even wanting to scan your brain. Though crime egg??? Arrest him he's a hate criminal!

You got an alchey homo in Charles Kennedy.
You've got asylum seekers, peados (one of Tony's close friends is a practicing peado).

Now yer got pay as you pay road system proposal (tax and pay).

We need centre right wingers to take over this country right now.

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Written by fbridge on Fri Dec 01 14:48:30 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

OK you whingers - we have your IP addresses.

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Written by Twigboy44 on Fri Dec 01 14:50:54 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Where are their cries to send back 600,000 immigrants along with their cars?

Mark London, London, United Kingdom

er, Germany circa 1933?

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Written by The_Mighty_Sarcasmo on Fri Dec 01 15:06:41 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

I definitely think there are far too many poor people who are allowed to drive. Perhaps they will spend their undoubtedly ill-begotten earnings on something other than motor vehicles.

Driving is a privelege of the wealthy. I am glad that government finally agrees.

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Written by Soddball on Fri Dec 01 16:41:44 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"Superb, Russell. I agree with every word and so do many others judging by the comments herein.

Paul Phillips, Sutton Coldfield, United Kingdom

Recommended by 20 people "

I find it hilarious that your recommendation of my post has more recommendations than the post itself!!

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Written by Bazzer414 on Fri Dec 01 17:07:18 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

Road charging by the mile, ID cards, national identity register, finger printing our children at school, CCTV cameras everywhere, recording our conversations in the street and on our phones and taxing us until we bleed - is it time for a little civil unrest? Oh, no, better not, we'll be arrested for being terrorists.

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Written by SteveStone106 on Fri Dec 01 17:06:46 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

With the theft of Iraqi oil having failed miserably what else can they do to fund another war!?...

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Written by BoiledBunny on Fri Dec 01 17:05:29 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

How many journeys and therefore congestion, not to mention deaths, will be caused by us all having to travel to regional centres to get biometrically measured and interviewed for our ID Cards?

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Written by Bluematter on Fri Dec 01 17:04:59 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

People - You voted for them.
You were warned.
We said this is what would happen.
Learn your lesson.

DON’T VOTE FOR THEM AGAIN.

[Harry-Flashman]

Harry, ever thought 3 years away might be too late. I've been saying for years this bunch of shysters are in the process of taking away the whole democratic process. It only needs another 'terrorist' scare at Heathrow &Gatwick at the time of the next General Election and there is already the power within their hands to 'postpone' an election

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Written by miki1998 on Fri Dec 01 19:56:18 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Perhaps it's time that the people of this country hired a lawyer to sue the Governement for breaching our human rights.

Any disillusioned lawyer out there willing to take this on, no win no fee?

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Written by RightyRightwing on Fri Dec 01 20:27:30 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

""In other words Labour is a right wing party.

leftwing lefty, United Kingdom""

John Prescott "right wing"?

Peter Hain "right wing"?

Gordon Brown "right wing"???

As a true patriotic, democratic right winger, I am insulted & resent being put into the same niche as these "good comrades" by left wingers who are rightly embarrassed at the mess the left have made of 10 years in Government.

Sorry Lefty - New Labour are your kith & kin - recycled marxists & neo socialists.

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Written by j on Sat Dec 02 11:19:38 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

A society where morality is low and crimes against children are high, should educate the youth about the crimes specially to those who are suspecitble to violence and see that it is a repeat crime which cannot be stopped without intervention. Government must put in more funds to protect children and put in education of offenders at an early age. Paedophilia is growing and merely stopping the crime is not enough.

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Written by EGBERT_GNOSH on Sat Dec 02 21:47:20 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

DAG NAMMIT
You still haven't got it have you? I am merely suggesting that ONE little (that means small) part of the problem IS infact immigration and I also suggested that MAYBE we should curb it to HELP alleviate matters. I also admit that there are MANY OTHER contributing factors that are causing the problem. This government and the people who appologise for it's illegal actions is a major part of that issue. But I DO NOT blame foreigners for everything - I quite like them actually - old chap

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Written by Soupless on Sat Dec 02 21:34:17 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Well if you're against "compounding" the problem then Max Headroom, maybe we should prevent people from being able to get licenses at all - I believe the numbers of new native drivers per year is far higher than that of driving-age immigrants per year.
This has got NOTHING AT ALL to do with immigration and immigrants, and it is absurd and ridiculous to single out particular groups who may or may not contribute to congestion. The one and only group responsible are vehicle drivers as a whole.

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Written by arnoldg on Sun Dec 03 08:42:19 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

take a look at france the motorways are practicaly empty and the side roads through the towns and villages can not cope,the cost to the buildings and minor roads is enormous,not to mention the high accident rate and death toll.plus the stress on the people who live along these routs the villages and towns are emptying of their inhabitants,whole rural culturs are disintegrating and polution and petrol consumtion is higher NO IT WONT REDUCE TRAFFIC,but it will change many other things

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Written by arnoldg on Sun Dec 03 08:41:18 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

take a look at france the motorways are practicaly empty and the side roads through the towns and villages can not cope,the cost to the buildings and minor roads is enormous,not to mention the high accident rate and death toll.plus the stress on the people who live along these routs the villages and towns are emptying of their inhabitants,whole rural culturs are disintegrating and polution and petrol consumtion is higher NO IT WONT REDUCE TRAFFIC,but it will change many other things

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Written by Lawrence1977 on Sun Dec 03 08:25:54 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

"If Gordon Brown introduces this policy it will ruin this country but no doubt he won't vote for road charging in Scotland.!!!!!!"

Which is why Scotland will eventually be given its independence. I wonder how it will cope with mass immigration from England though.

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Written by Lawrence1977 on Sun Dec 03 09:38:26 UTC 2006. 3 recommendations.

Everyone should know that this is just a red herring to get tracking technology into our cars. But it's worse than that.

Did you know that in 2010 Labour will also be withdrawing funding for Post Office card accounts? There's nothing about it in the media. As well as finally destroying local post offices (by ending their main source of income), everyone will have to have a bank account, which will of course be monitored by the government.

Labour are truly insidiously evil.

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Written by Hodmadod on Sun Dec 03 09:33:45 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

The answer to both questions is NO.
Judging by the number of "Use the bus" or "I havent got a car" "Walk" comments, many believe that raising taxes will solve the problem. I guess these are the same who think "the Government has plenty of money", and vote NuLab regardless
IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE THE MONEY GOES!
Gordon fools people by calling subsidies "Investment". Some subsidies are kept "off balance sheet"", PFI great, but it's only "have now, pay (lots) later. Money's needed- PAY UP

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Written by Lawrence1977 on Sun Dec 03 11:17:53 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

This is just a ruse to get tracking technology into our cars. It's worse though.

In 2010 Labour will be withdrawing funding for Post Office card accounts, meaning that local post offices will be destroyed (having lost their main source of income) and everyone will have to have a bank account, so the government can monitor all our financial transactions as well as our road usage.

REPOSTING SINCE THE MODS DELETED IT BEFORE. THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THIS.

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Written by timh1970 on Sun Dec 03 11:42:04 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Whenever there are going to be complaints from drivers the state brings up some suggetion that is completely unacceptable.

The theory is:

We want them to build more and proper roads.

If they suggest somthing like road user charging then this will cancel it out, thus maintaining the status quo and saving them money on road building.

To Ladyboy and his cronies: Stop P******* on my boots and telling me it's a rain storm.

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Written by dennis on Sun Dec 03 12:02:32 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

off subject this lot been in power ten years but hey we got elec and gaz prices going through roof so where was the forward thinking there none because that would have saved us money so they not interested.second house prices compleatly out of hand they solution dont build any put prices sky high then guess what they can re band you and get more council tax they have thought that one through,same pattern in all they do how to take more off us not help us anyone could run it if you just tax to fi

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Written by sjwaldock on Sun Dec 03 11:54:58 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Ok It's official THEY HAVE LOST THE B***** PLOT. I drive 12 miles to work each day to work for the NHS. At £1 per mile thats £24 a day if I was to rely on public transport I would have to leave my house at 06:00 get three busses do a twelve hour shift and get home at about 22:00 Ignore my family and go straight to bed to get up the next day at 05:00 for more of the same and with my partner doing the same who will pay for the childcare? Not this government thats for sure. There's more to this.

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Written by angrybrit on Sun Dec 03 13:18:07 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Three little words... Bravo November Papa. Isn't it about time we employed a party for the people. The big three have lost the plot and it's time for a radical shake up. (a little research will reveal they aren't what the media hacks and salivating liberals would have you believe).

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Written by welshcurls on Sun Dec 03 13:13:27 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

This is about flu jabs for residents in care homes.
Having worked in a cottage hospital on a geriatric unit and now my mother is a resident in a nursing home, I feel I am quite well qualified to say this.
Most of the residents in care homes are demented and doubly incontinent, why are we prolonging their wretched lives by giving then flu jabs every year? Flu and pneumonia used to be known as "old man's friend" with good reason. Surely, it is kinder to let nature take it's course?

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Written by aunty_tax on Sun Dec 03 13:43:42 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

ebay are selling gprs blockers to keep us all free from intrusion see item 110063789922
Are we all not aware that each week some hair brained minister will come up with a new tax a pity tv fees werent payg the bbc would get nothing off me because i dont watch the station so no payg fees will get introduced there.
and council tax should be payg the government would loose billions paying as we use the service police fire bins my bill would be nothing.
no they wont want payg there either.

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Written by Dan6713 on Sun Dec 03 14:17:13 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

I Don't know whether to be REALLY angry or throw up my hands in disbelief.

Indigenous population FALLING
Immigration WACKO out of CONTROL OPEN Door.

ERR 2 2=6???

Congested roads??? Millions of Immigrants Global warming concreting the south NO borders Free passports Foreign criminals..

Government benefits
EU entry through the back door
Population control and monitoring
ID cards to better tax and control everyone
NO demonstrations People held

EQUALS
Corruption lies fraud

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Written by aunty_tax on Sun Dec 03 14:43:50 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

DIGITAL SIGNAL BLOCKER GPRS STEALTH MODE PRIVACY ITEM NUMBER 110063789922
JUST BY A JAMMER OFF EBAY THEY ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE.
IVE ORDERED ONE AND I KNOW SOMEONE THAT HAS ONE THEY BLOCK ALL SIGNALS EVEN PHONES WIRELESS CCTV ETC. BRILLIANT

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Written by Martin-C on Sun Dec 03 14:43:42 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

[blue-kudos], Livingston, United Kingdom

I must say, you seem far too surprised. Don't worry sir, true cynicism (nowadays known as "realism") is fast approaching!

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Written by happybrian123 on Sun Dec 03 15:25:53 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

If one Person in four living in London is White British it stands to reason the others are foreign. This will also be true of Birmingham and Manchester. So let all the non British leave the Country, starting with those who hold dual Citizenship. Then see if we still have congested roads and over crowded Cities.

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Written by happybrian123 on Sun Dec 03 17:50:23 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

If one Person in four living in London is White British it stands to reason the others are foreign. This will also be true of Birmingham and Manchester. So let all the non British leave the Country, starting with those who hold dual Citizenship. Then see if we still have congested roads and over crowded Cities.

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Written by DeeDub93 on Sun Dec 03 20:17:41 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Does anybody else think that we should eradicate TB now?

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Written by Liberty_Rose on Sun Dec 03 12:16:29 UTC 2006. 2 recommendations.

Some of the posters here seem not to know when they are well off. Those who want to leave, please do so; may I suggest Baghdad, Kabul, or Darfur (Austin Laverack)

The fact that comparing us with these war torn countries is the best you can do says it all!

IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYWHERE ELSE, THE REST OF EUROPE, US ETC, IS BETTER THAN UK! I AGREE.

That's why 10 million want to emigrate away from the overtaxed, over-surveillanced, collapsed services, infrastructure of nulabs police state UK.

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Written by Hunter1986 on Sun Dec 03 13:50:10 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Sometimes these ministers need a good punch in the face

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Written by Jogant on Sun Dec 03 20:20:40 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

happybrian123 says: If one Person in four living in London is White British it stands to reason the others are foreign. This will also be true of Birmingham and Manchester. So let all the non British leave the Country, starting with those who hold dual Citizenship.

So only white people can be British?

Talk about being a racist idiot. What's worse is that other racists are voting for this guy!

I'm Asian. I'm also third generation British. What right do you have to tell me I'm not British?!

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Written by davereet on Sun Dec 03 18:20:38 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Besides my Merc estate made before the Yanks destroyed MBZ, will STILL outlast many modern tin cans!

william fletcher

If you knew anything about modern engineering you would not say that.

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Written by angrybrit on Sun Dec 03 18:32:08 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

petitions[dot]pm[dot]gov[dot]uk/traveltax/

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Written by chezzababa on Sun Dec 03 18:26:52 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

What's the web address for this online petition please any1.thanks

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Written by angrybrit on Sun Dec 03 19:11:53 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Here you go again, the colon was missing before....

********/

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Written by NekoFever on Sun Dec 03 20:27:48 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

"If B'liar sees HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS on the march...........ONE day is all that will take to change this nation from the course of apathtic distruction it is sleepwalking into!!!"

Uh, I seem to remember around a million people marching in London on 16th February 2003. The government still went ahead and invaded Iraq. If we did it again they'd continue to sit, oblivious, in their ivory tower and do it anyway.

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Written by peterjol on Mon Dec 04 09:27:15 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Fantastic idea, Douglas is a clever man ..well worth the money we pay him.
You are all being silly ...Of course this will work....traffic congestion would be solved overnight... and even better still the government would have even more money to invest wisely in even more great Ideas to improve our society .
HIP HIP Hooray for our wonderful government.

PS ...WOW This is a great joint i'm smoking.

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Written by mgb500 on Mon Dec 04 09:46:43 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

A deterrent against whom? The US perhaps?

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Written by Stunmai on Sun Dec 03 20:46:02 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

The problem is over-crowding. We know this. The government knows this. The answer is not more tax. The answer is deporting immigrants.

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Written by darkpaw on Fri Dec 01 08:24:07 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

It's going to take 20 years of Conservative rule to get us out of the mess 'New' Labour have got us into.

Council Tax has almost doubled. Pay As You Go road taxation. Illegal wars. Illegal immigrants. Huge mosques being built in a Christian country. What next? Free taxpayers' money for all prisoners forced to come off illegal drugs? (What? They've done that one, as well?)

New Labour have shown their true colours. Let's end this. Who's with me?

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Written by nohandwringing on Fri Dec 01 09:04:02 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

I assume this applies equally to Gordons friends North of the border?.I doubt it somehow.
This has got nothing to do with congestion its just another Tax grab for the English taxpayer
by a greedy and corrupt Scot dominated Government.

D Homewood, Crowborough, United Kingdom

What the hell has t got to do with him being Scottish? And too right it will affect Scotland. Take your racist specs off. You are a disgrace to rational debate.

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Written by Lawrence1977 on Fri Dec 01 09:47:01 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

David Wallace: "One thing many are not aware of is an EU plan to have satellite tracking in place of all new cars by 2009."

It's worse. Forgive me for going off-topic, but did you know that Labour are withdrawing funding for Post Office card accounts in 2010? Aside from sounding the death knell for local post offices (ending their main source of income), this will mean everyone must have a bank account to live, work etc. which will of course be monitored by the government.

Labour are evil.

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Written by INSPORT on Fri Dec 01 10:38:39 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

HOW DO WE DRIVE ON THE ROADS FOR FREE. WE PAY ROAD TAX, FUEL DUTY AND VAT.
MY NEAREST TRAIN STATION (AND SHOPS) IS TEN MILES AWAY AND WE GET ONE BUS A WEEK (ON SATURDAY). I TRAVELL BETWEEN 100 - 300 MILES PER DAY TO DO MY JOB WITH 26kg OF EQUIPMENT, PUBLIC TRANSPORT IS NOT AN OPTOIN.
PERHAPS I CAN PUT THE CHARGES AGAINST MY INCOME TAX, MP'S WILL CLAIM THE CHARGES AS EXPENSES.

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Written by leftwing on Fri Dec 01 11:27:37 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

Don't forget the government spend all this money on illegal right wing wars and developing weopons as well as spending it on sroungers.

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Written by suzukisv1000 on Fri Dec 01 13:15:46 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

I bet the thick greedy clods who dreamt this up do not read these columns - they darent because the truth hurts. Dreamers and idiots - yet another tax grabber for labours spending blinders - more money for illegal immigrants, wasters, dole queue addicts etc . Its ok the middle classes will pay - I can here them saying it now.

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Written by timh1970 on Fri Dec 01 13:33:09 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Well I for one am not going to pay it.

There is no point in arguing with them. When it comes to the persecution of drivers, they are very determined.

The only thing left to do is to evade the charge and ignore the law. I suggest that you all do the same.

I am not ruining my life getting stressed out at these idiotic schemes being thought up by central government to extract money out of my. I will simply make my protest by not paying into them.

Forget it! Gordie.

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Written by oldlankybill on Fri Dec 01 13:36:20 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

This is a tax too far.
I have decided not to play the governments game. I will therefore do everything I can to avoid, evade, dodge and foul up these measures by all means legal or illegal.

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Written by thenaggingdoubt on Fri Dec 01 13:39:02 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

I have decided not to play the governments game. I will therefore do everything I can to avoid, evade, dodge and foul up these measures by all means legal or illegal.

Share you plans with us - maybe we could all try it.

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Written by BradStone on Fri Dec 01 14:19:24 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

"He has reported that road tolls could benefit the economy to the tune of £28bn a year. "

Yes - and then how much of this will be used to improve the roads themselvs??
I'll tell you - NOT A LOT.

How much will be wasted on lumps of JUNK like Olympic stadiums and the Millenium Dome. (Or giving compensation money to the poor, oppressed, bullied muslims - or heroin to junkies in prison)

AT THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION - YOU ALL KNOW WHAT TO DO.

YOU ALL KNOW WHAT TO DO.

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Written by tigersimon on Fri Dec 01 16:58:11 UTC 2006. 0 recommendations.

" I live near Chepstow and we already pay a toll of £4.90 just to cross the servern bridge."

Where is the servern bridge? If you can't spell or capitalise your local river and bridge, you should be charged double!

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Written by Buzet23 on Fri Dec 01 21:31:00 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

Since this has been commisioned by good old Scot Gordon Brown, I would like to suggest he first introduces it for a test period in his homeland Scotland before inflicting it on the English. If after a reasonable period such as 5 years Labour has not been decimated in the polls, he could then, if he still is in power, put it to referendum, alongside whether England should have independence from the Scottish led political parties.

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Written by Toby on Sat Dec 02 13:21:31 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

I´m surprised Misters Brown and Blair can legally drive since they must have their heads so far up one of their lower bodily orofices that they cannot possibly see, not even the damn obvious i.e. that they have just blown the very slender chance that they had to win the next election.

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Written by sirscubadiver on Sun Dec 03 11:59:23 UTC 2006. 1 recommendations.

"and you do not need your car every day, so get out of it and stop making excuses for your polluting indolence!

frank franklin"

So you think I should spend an extra £20 a week (double the cost of driving), and spend an extra 2 hours a day commuting on two buses and a train? For some, indeed many, not driving just isn't an option, so get off your high horse and think of those of us who live in areas where public tranport is terrible at best (i.e. those not in London, Birmingham etc).

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