Are firms ignoring their ethical responsibility?
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Should firms take more of an ethical responsibility?
Workers in Bangladesh get paid as little as five pence an hour making clothes for UK firms Asda, Primark and Tesco, a report says.
Anti-poverty group War on Want is accusing the companies of exploiting the workers who often spend 80 hours a week in factories.
All three businesses deny the allegations and stress that their suppliers are closely monitored and any abuse was unacceptable.
Will this report affect your shopping habits? How can UK-based firms keep more of a check on their international suppliers? Send us your comments.
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5 p an hour in Bangladesh is worth a lot more than it is here, most of them live here now anyway so its not a problem for them obviously.
Given that India is now one of the largest causes of greenhouse gases, and they don't care by the way, we shouldn't be looking to pay them more, so they can all buy cars and pollute more, we should be looking to curb them!
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Demand proof.
You are half right, unionisation would be a great thing in Bangladesh. Union activist are frequently beaten and murdered for their troubles. Coca Cola was involved in hiring people to murder Trade Union Activists in Colombia.
What we can do here is buy fair trade and support Amnesty and other groups who are standing up for exploited workers.
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What about the ethical duty of the poor not to breed?
[demand_proof], Luton, United Kingdom
I'd rather the poor breed like rabbits than the stupid breed at all.
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What about the ethical duty of the poor not to breed?
[demand_proof], Luton, United Kingdom
What about the ethical duty of the stupid not to breed?
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What about the ethical duty of the stupid not to breed?
Woo Hoo Europe
Stupid people don't know about ethics and are you seriously suggesting that the poor, impoverished people are stupid or should not have children ("Breeding " is what animals do, by the way)
Do you have any answers ?
Yes, you in your sweatshop jeans and trainers eating a pot-noodle manufatctured in Poland by a lady on minimum wage (probaly 50p an hour) ??
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"Who cares, in todays overpriced Britain they are the least of my worries."
Capt Dave the Hat
Do you get called a selfish pig often?
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Hey, moderator, why did you pull the comment asking if Capt Dave the Hat got called a selfish pig? Hes acting like one. The comment was fair.
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to Edward Treen:
Chavvy - one who possesses the qualities associated with a Chav.
Skank - a portmanteau derived from "scum" and "rank", used to describe something or someone of a repugnant nature.
And yes, sexagenarians have often been looked upon as setting the bar for what is hip and trendy, so please keep shopping at Tesco.
And well done invalidating yourself by actually admitting you shop at these icons of exploitation.
So you dress well, and contribute to child labour. Nice
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One time I cut the hair of a very high level international vorporate big wig. The story he told me told me what he was about. He told me he knew he had a drinking problem when he found himself drinking with the hired help. Given that is what he thought of those he met, I wonder about those he probably would never meet.
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"These people LIKE being slaves, its better than living in Africa and we are teaching them lovely things like christianity"
Watt Tyler
I agree with your sentiments Watt, but we are talking about Bangladesh not Africa.
Still, I'm no racist, I'll have a slave of any colour.
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I'll offer 31p for the Prat in the Hat. I know he's vicious, but is he housetrained?
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Is there any chance someone could actually speak to one of the factory workers before putting up HYS topics like this?
Surely an international corporation the size of the BBC could get a correpsondent into a factory and see what is going on first hand?
Wouldn't that be responsible reporting? I'm sure that used to happen but call me old fashioned, you know, find some real solid evidence first?
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I'll offer 31p for the Cat in the Hat. I know he's vicious, but is he housetrained?
Hey, moderator, how about you be moderate and not pull this comment?
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We lost our Textile Industry due to these countries being able to supply far cheaper,but the stores in this country don,t always show it,they just capitalise on it,that is one of the reasons it is cheaper to fly to America to shop for most things, whats more you only have to see all our so called British Companies moving out to these countries who pay these low wages, you don't have to wonder why,GREED does spring to mind, a saying comes to mind,(NEVER MIND THE QAULITY FEEL THE WIDTH)
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Just out of curiosity i would like to know if comments are supervised by a moderator. I am saying so because when the flag is green, sent comments appear immediately. This means they aren't checked before publication. This can have risk of having comments off the subject.
Or does the moderator read the comments while they are being printed?
Thanks for letting me know.
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I maybe wrong but is there any link between this report and i quote "War on Want is promoting its own ethically produced clothing as gifts for the festive season. The charity’s long-sleeved and short-sleeved T-shirts bear the slogan “poverty is political”. These are available online at ********"
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you who truly believe that giving money to set up hospitals and aid in countries where a child dies EVERY THREE SECONDS or setting up true free trade is not a just cause
[Trompe_Le_Monde]
Charity my friend begins(and ends)at home so I want MY tax spent in MY country on MY kinfolk and I want the right to decide if I WANT to contribute or not,instead of having MY tax pounds frittered away by a wasteful chancellor who cares more about the 3rd world than the people who elected him to office
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bush is a criminal,because he is very well aware of wal-mart's modern day slavery tactics,yet turns a blind eye. the waltons should be forced to pay billions in restitution to all victims of slavery. and if they go under,so be it. the restitution far left.
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The only reason people vote BNP is because of the poicies of a crackpot pc-addicted socialst government.
[johnboy41], Watford, United Kingdom
The only reason people vote BNP is because they believe what they want to believe without digging for the truth. It is comfortable to blame somebody else, preferably a minority community for their own failings. Remember the saying, "and now that they have come for me there is no one to speak out for me"?
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I would bet that most of the dudley doo gooders on here are mainly spouting because they are jealous or guilty!
If someone said to me i can earn a million quid an hour for the rest of my life but it would ruin Bangladesh!
I would sit on my yacht in Monte Carlo for the rest of my life (and into the afterlife if given the chance)and watch Bangladesh burn!
I would even buy the matches!
So would 99.9% of the world!(includung the Bangladeshi's)
So stop patronising us with your Bull!
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And why is this? Because what was said is the general consensus that doesn't conform to the liberal PC brigades ideology?
snidey c, rochester, United Kingdom
What do you mean by PC exactly? Do you mean treating other people as you would expect to be treated yourself. Do you mean not exploiting others. Or are you using easily accesible and meaningless phrases because eloquent argument is beyond your capability.
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The treatment of the workers is unfair. What should htye not get the equivilnt that companies would have to pay workers here?
Talk about exploitation. We had this sort of treatment for workers during the industrial revoultion. We look on that and say it was unacceptable. So why is it acceptable to treat these people in the same way. Out of sight, out of mind seems to be the reason for this.
Does that make it right to ignroe this though?
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You don't even qualify as a human being i'm afraid.....
Noneof Yourbusiness, Leeds
And why is this? Because what was said is the general consensus that doesn't conform to the liberal PC brigades ideology?
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"I couldnt care wether they were paid 5p or £5 per hour. As long as i still get cheap clothing from primark/tesco etc then i'm happy."
S C, kent
You don't even qualify as a human being i'm afraid.....
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Just what is ethical responsibility? The United Kingdom was white and it should stay white. The people that want England Brown, should themselvies leave England and go to say India or to Brownland or whatever. The last time I went to England, I landed in London, and God almighty, I thought I was in India. What happen to the real English. Did the Yankees screw your Country up as they did ours?
Don Boone, North Carolina, ANP
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..The people that want England Brown, should themselvies leave England and go to say India or to Brownland or whatever. The last time I went to England, I landed in London, and God almighty, I thought I was in India. What happen to the real English. Did the Yankees screw your Country up as they did ours?
Don Boone, North Carolina, ANP
Keep strunning that 'ol bango, kid! Yee haw! My! Ain choo gotta lotta teyth!
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Don Boone, North Carolina
Sorry but weren't you the racist who just had his backward extremists views pulled by the moderators a few moments ago?
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'Burning mosques probably wouldn't be racist in The Mail, it'd be "a firm stand against PC folly."'
Ania Hinde, Manchaster, United Kingdom
From what I have been reading, Tony Blair and New Labour is just as guilty. Not only that, it shows how easy it is to manipulate a gullible population. Goebbels must be laughing into his sleeve. Thanks to Bush and Blair for the tide of Islamophobia. It's like anti-Semitism: a hobby for the stupid.
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What's happening to the Have Your Say's recently? The amount of xenophobia, Islamophobia, blatant racism and ignorance is quite shocking!
Wu Shu
Fraid so. Our charming press has told these bigots that it's ok to say vicious things about muslims, blacks, jews, etc cos it's NOT racist, No! It's "the hard brave truth that liberal softies daren't say." Welcome to the Fourth Reich.
Burning mosques probably wouldn't be racist in The Mail, it'd be "a firm stand against PC folly."
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..The people that want England Brown, should themselvies leave England and go to say India or to Brownland or whatever. The last time I went to England, I landed in London, and God almighty, I thought I was in India. What happen to the real English. Did the Yankees screw your Country up as they did ours?
Don Boone, North Carolina, ANP
Hows about you keep your redneck views to yourself? Oh and please don't come back here.
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"maybe if you worked hard and paid lots of tax you might be more worried about how it is squandered by New Labour,its easy to spend other peoples money!!"
neil walker, Yarm, United Kingdom
maybe if you engaged your brain, you would see that most reactionary leftists like you don't complain when the Conservatives file your tax dollars in the bin or sell assets to pay running costs. That's why we are losing the war on terror and you want to whine about TAX. Pathetic.
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"What's happening to the Have Your Say's recently? The amount of xenophobia, Islamophobia, blatant racism and ignorance is quite shocking!"
Wu Shu
Head-in-the-sand wilful ignorance does seem to be in right now. That's the problem with democracy - the uninformed and plain potty also get the vote.
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'@ Woody - if Bangladesh has "death camps" then the UN ought to do something. But as it doesn't have any, the matter is irrelevant.
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If you really want to change things, you'd all do better petitioning the Bangladesh government than getting all holier-than-thou on HYS.'
Anthony McDonald
I love it when people who can't read a comment start to preach. Anthony - if your back garden has "death camps", you ought to be tried in the Hague. But as it doesn't, etc.
Get the point?
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Theresa Greene, Reading, Berks
I am BLACK, are you.
Thank you very much.
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We don't care. Go and play with your Hitler mates you racist Nazi.
Russ Limbaugh, Birmingham, United Kingdom
What a sad little man you are. How can being caring and compassionate be racist? Isn't it time you listened to your Mum and went to bed?
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My god this debate has deteriorated.
People typing comments like 'racist nazi' in bold undelined are exacly why half the HYS threads on the BBC are fully moderated and thus reflective only of the opinions agreed to by the BBC's staff and not reflective of peoples opinions
Whether or not we all agree with the report that stimulated this thread is irrelevant when we cannot respect eachothers opinions- we may not have an opportunity to voice them at all if the current tone continues
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"For those of you that can't figure out how economics works, then get back into school and learn a clue."
Kevin Summers, Springfield, United States
My italics, Kevin, you provided the appalling grammar and pretend understanding of economics.
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Nobody cares what this white supremasist thinks. Please get lost and play with your Hairian Nation friends instead.
"I think this is because the UK is 2 states and the US is 50 states.
Don Boone, North Carolina
ncxbv qoeuiyqi, akjgkla iutqe, Zimbabwe"
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People are blaming the Daily Mail for the bigotry on this board, saying they tell their readership to hate everything. But that's just not true.. For example, they seemed to quite like Oswald Mosley and his gang: "Hurrah for the Blackshirts!" and all that. They had a soft-spot for old Benito Mussolini too.
See? Not all hatred.
Dan Dover
I like your style Dan. That makes Nick Griffin a Friendly soul too as he loves the KKK and Hitler.
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ncxbv qoeuiyqi, akjgkla iutqe, Zimbabwe
We don't care. Go and play with your Hitler mates you racist Nazi.
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Europe care, out of border human right in printing paper.When terrarisim activity they shout for conviniace of terror.when they affected it terror.When asian affected its human right violation.
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