Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
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Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Now can we discuss something worthwhile like:
1. The media broadcasting the life history of 2 people who haven't been charged with anything
The Foolio, Oldbury, United Kingdom
This should be discussed. These 2 have been tried and found guilty already by the press. Although I hope they are the right people so that the killing ends part of me hopes they are not charged and then sue the papers for a fortune. The only trial should happen in a court not on toilet paper pages.
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So what do you say about the Hill View School in Bournemouth that has banned the use of the word Christmas and is having instead a "Winter" Party because the word "Christmas" may offend? And what do you say about the fact that this year 75% of businesses have banned Xmas decorations for fear of offending others?
I know Christmas has sadly lost its real meaning, but the PC brigade are intent on administering its last rites!
ian gray, Wigan, United Kingdom
Ah, classic, here we go... One obscure example and a made-up statistic. Classic Daily Mail.
Christmas has been banned! It's illegal! Richard C. Littlejohn told me! It gets more banned every year! You couldn't make it up!
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Daily Mail is obviously back to its tricks of the 1930s when it supported Hitler and Mosley.
phil b, United Kingdom
Um... Are you actually trying to mention Hitler more often since the Magazine article? (I'm assuming so, but I thought I'd better just check).
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"When did racism and bigotry become fashionable again? phil b, United Kingdom"
It hasn't, but people are becoming less scared of being screamed at by the PC brigade for occasionally stating the obvious or letting common sense prevail instead of left wing dogma.
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I notice all you sad morons are again turning any debate into a political argument.
Just go home, wait for an election and again vote the way your parents did all their lives
Sad sad Sheep of Britain
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Why do people feel th need to come on forums and take the time to complain about the topic - get a life and go on the extremism debate - it looks more suited to you.
Mrs G, Wolverhampton, United Kingdom
Because unlike yourself, there is more to life than Xmas, eastenders and corry. But you would not know this would you? I really feel sorry for people like yourself:
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect).
Mark Twain 1904.
Now do you understand? Thought not
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Bah humbug, Isnt that christmas word banned yet?. This christian celebration is frowned upon by all the UKs non christian squatter communities, who in their hoardes will use their life controlling faith to justify that they must slowly gain control, to eventually put in place their own laws that are part of their religious beliefs system. they will continue to complain that their particular faith must be recognised and promoted, and public money for displays, decorations etc, must be shared out now because thay are here to stay, so all must change.
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"Try telling that to your kids on Christmas morning..."
My kids won't be celebrating Christmas, New Year will be known as the birth of Rudolph and we shall celebrate that.
All these whingers about Christmas going downhill wake up! Just like the big red man, God doesnt exist!
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I am deeply offended by your efforts to force your pagan ritual of ‘Christmas’ upon me and my brothers.
Your satanic worship of alcohol, consumerism and greed will be punished by The Great One
Infidel dogs
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When did racism and bigotry become fashionable again? I'm sick to my stomach of of reading this rubbish. The Daily Mail is obviously back to its tricks of the 1930s when it supported Hitler and Mosley.
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
When did racism and bigotry become fashionable again? I'm sick to my stomach of of reading this rubbish. The Daily Mail is obviously back to its tricks of the 1930s when it supported Hitler and Mosley.
phil b, United Kingdom
I agree. I am reading one of Richard Littlejohns book over Christmas to see why people come up with such savage animal views.
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
"When did racism and bigotry become fashionable again? I'm sick to my stomach of of reading this rubbish. The Daily Mail is obviously back to its tricks of the 1930s when it supported Hitler and Mosley.
phil b, United Kingdom"
Phil ... the question is... "Are you spending or saving at Christmas ?". Have another go.
You sound like the Python sketch where the David Vine chappie is asking Marx et al who won the FA Cup in 1955.
I'm saving, so that the clunking fist doesn't take too much to throw at people I don't like.
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Just had a guy at the door collecting to raise funds to help the families and children of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers have a good party and lots of pressies this crimbo.
My local paper is reporting how many of our elderly and vulnerable are getting their meals on wheels service scrapped.....NOt allowed to write what I am currently thinking.
Steve Day
Sorry Steve, I never realised that "vulnerable" is only reserved for elderly, white Englishmen. NOT allowed to write what I am currently thinking too !
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'But then I appreciate I'm very much in the minority.
I have just this week started getting into the christmas 'spirit' - looking forward to heading home etc. I cannot get into the spirit in October - how bored of it must you be by now!'
J P
I don't know where you are looking JP, but it must be very dark and your back must be very sore! Don't worry, you are not alone, and the only thing I am bored with right now is your presumtious letter.
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Definatly spending.. Got a £6000 xmas bonus this year..
Mark Gillespie, Weymouth, United Kingdom
Not even half what I got - why do you think I'm retiring after we make it 5-0?
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Definatly spending.. Got a £6000 xmas bonus this year.. Won't be spending it on the high street however, online shopping all the way.
Mark Gillespie, Weymouth, United Kingdom
Well done, but I think you should use some of that bonus to get some spelling tuition!!
D E F I N I T E L Y
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Just had a guy at the door collecting to raise funds to help the families and children of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers have a good party and lots of pressies this crimbo.
My local paper is reporting how many of our elderly and vulnerable are getting their meals on wheels service scrapped.....NOt allowed to write what I am currently thinking.
Steve Day
Okay, I will. Your a bad tempered anti-immigration yob with no human spirit. Have you got of your couch to help these elderly yourself??? Thought not.
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Just had a guy at the door collecting to raise funds to help the families and children of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers have a good party and lots of pressies this crimbo.
My local paper is reporting how many of our elderly and vulnerable are getting their meals on wheels service scrapped.....NOt allowed to write what I am currently thinking.
Steve Day
Okay, I will. Your a bad tempered anti-immigration yob with no human spirit. Have you got of your couch to help these elderly yourself??? Thought not.
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However, think about when the creation story was written, thousands of years ago...how did they get the process and order right without todays scientific knowledge and research? Go on pick up a Bible and check it out, it wont hurt you!
[Bostin5], Wakefield, United Kingdom
They did not get it right. They got it wrong TWICE. Check out Genesis and there are TWO versions of the order of creation. Also, 'man' is an animal species and there is nothing about natural selection anywhere in the Bible let alone Genesis therefore the 'scientific' knowledge breaks down there.
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And the Chinese aren't taxed by Gordon Brown, so they can afford to live on much less.
So, who are the slave workers, the Chinese or us?
Britain's Ruined, Reading
We are slave workers too. Even those who work hard are still slaves. If we work hard we can be rich yet only a small minority get cash "rich". So capitalism is not as great as it seems despite the nice stories I hear and know about. (Of poorer backgrounds people doing well) If those who work hard are so cash rich why do they still complain about having no money? They blame the govt for taxing them to the hilt yet if they work hard surely this should supersedes the tax they pay?
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"people who bomb & kill are more balanced toward hate, especially of themselves"
Leonard Day, Cardiff, United Kingdom
Or do they bomb because of love for their beliefs?...
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Just had a guy at the door collecting to raise funds to help the families and children of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers have a good party and lots of pressies this crimbo.
My local paper is reporting how many of our elderly and vulnerable are getting their meals on wheels service scrapped.....NOt allowed to write what I am currently thinking.
Steve Day
Okay, I will. Your a bad tempered anti-immigration yob with no human spirit. Have you got of your couch to help these elderly yourself??? Thought not.
Sebastian Mulliman
Well said.
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Okay, I will. Your a bad tempered anti-immigration yob with no human spirit. Have you got of your couch to help these elderly yourself??? Thought not.
Sebastian Mulliman
So how do you get the "yob" bit?
What makes him a yob?
Or is it because you think all people who want to get their country sorted out are yobs?
Maybe its just because they dont think like you?
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Just had a guy at the door collecting to raise funds to help the families and children of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers have a good party and lots of pressies this crimbo.
My local paper is reporting how many of our elderly and vulnerable are getting their meals on wheels service scrapped.....NOt allowed to write what I am currently thinking.
Okay, I will. Your a bad tempered anti-immigration yob with no human spirit. Have you got of your couch to help these elderly yourself???
Well said.
Simon flinn,
I completely disagree. Help starts at home. This country wouldn't be in the mess it is if we spent the money we pay in taxes on this country instead of giving it away
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Dear Margaret.
As you can see I've finally mastered this email thing! Sue and John came to visit today, which was nice, and it was Sue who taught me how to use the email. I shall be writing to you often now that I have figured it out. Please send my love to Helen and the boys.
See you soon Love Mum xxx
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Calm down mate! only ethnically english? I don't remember writing that. In essence I meant that if we all looked after each other the country would be a far better place. The PC brigades pandering to the needs of the minority hardly helps. Look after the old people!
Stephen Brown, London, United Kingdom
I am reading Richard Littlejohns book. I love the way he assumes all Asylum seekers are criminals. I can't wait for chapter 3. It is even more funny considering some people actually believe what that guy writes! LOL
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I remember in 1978 (or was it '79?) I was delivering a job to a client, & when I walked into their office they were all having a party. Everyone was wearing their underwear outside of their jeans, and as soon as I walked in I was handed a glass of wine. This would have been around 12:00ish...I left at 11:00pm!
Who was the client I hear you all ask...BBC Wales Graphics Dept!
(Mods - if you don't believe me e mail & I'll tell you who was the staff there at the time)
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"I work with youth offenders which most of the country/press seem to condemning recently (including these boards) but hardly any actually can be bothered to go and help them!
Jamie M, England"
Perhaps that's because people feel that 'help' should be given to those that deserve it. People who don't steal, mug, trash other people's cars, fight and generally stick two fingers up to society. Perhaps people feel that help should be given to those that try, those that don't use their background or colour as an excuse to commit crime, those that work hard, want to get on, those that actually contribute to society rather than endlessly take.
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"God is Love. You do believe in Love, don't you?"
Leonard Day
Leonard, you might as well say God is a banana (I like bananas), it doesn't make him any more plausible than fairies at the bottom of the garden. You can't justify the existence of something simply by equating it to something we know to exist. Go and read Thomas Aquinas' 'proofs' to see just how ridiculous your argument is! As for me, I plan on spending a wonderful food 'n' fun filled Christmastime at home with my wife, watching Doctor Who and playing on my Xbox 360. If God knocks on my door, I might even let him have a go too.
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The moderators must all be asleep after boozy lunches. So Merry Christmas everyone.
And remember the BNP are racist scum
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The moderators must all be asleep after boozy lunches. So Merry Christmas everyone.
And remember the BNP are racist scum
phil b, United Kingdom
HAHAHAHA
May well have a point there.
I would like to say one nice thing this year so here goes.
I wish you all Fat, Thin, Tall ,Short, Muslim, Christian , Catholic, Athiest, Mormon, Pretty , ugly, Rich, poor, Intelligent, Thick, High Flyer, Knuckle dragger, And anyone else i didnt mention
A VERY HAPPY XMAS HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE THE SPEND IT. MAKE IT GOOD AND HAVE A BETTER NEW YEAR.
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Aza Vigilante, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, United Kingdom, Europe, World, Universe
don't worry they get paid for their time of having to deal with intoxicated folks. Not well enough in my eyes, but sacrifice it's not...
Well i am off to the liquor store. i need to get my "fifth" before i am driving home and vommit all over my carpet.......and pass out in drunken stupor
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Now what was Harry-Flashmans comment when I called the BNP the enemy within?
Of course these people may be found innocent but why on earth has this event not been given more coverage, if they were muslim it would be front page news in every paper.
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"Do Christians believe that G. W. Bush was told by God to invade Iraq?
"Do Christians believe that G. W Bush and Tony Blair are good Christians and making our world a better place?" ~ widuran Bertram, UK
No. GWB and TB are both freemasons who exploit that particular constituency for their own political ends. They don't believe in Christ anymore than I believe in the tooth fairy.
Both leaders are Neo-conservatives and base their world view on the philosophies of Leo Strauss who espoused that religion was for the masses but not the rulers, since its beliefs are "a pious fraud". They talk the talk, but will never walk the walk.
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Why do so many contributors to HYS insist on stating that a pagan festive was originally held at what is now called Christmas time. WE ALL KNOW THAT!
For goodness sake, you are not announcing breath taking news. We know that the Catholic church used that date to discourage pagan worship and are bored with hearing it time and time again. It’s getting to the point where it’s repeated more times than a BBC program.
Viscount Court
So YOU then repeat it Doah
Maybe they say it to put a point across to knuckle draggers out there who beleive in God and Christ. They dont share that view and are explaining Christianity is based on so many other things that are not related
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Everyone is talking about Religion so I have two serious questions:-
Do Christians believe that G. W. Bush was told by God to invade Iraq?
Do Christians believe that G. W Bush and Tony Blair are good Christians and making our world a better place?
I am very interested.
widuran Bertram, Letchworth, United Kingdom
To answer your question, no. As a christian I am digusted by the way certain politicians (particularly American) exploit the name of Jesus Christ in order to advance their own political adgenda. Being a christian is about having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Bush could not act the way he does if he truly knew Christ.Mind you, we're a bit off subject here!
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"Is there really nothing happening in the world at the moment Beeb?" Noneof Yourbusiness, Leeds
Yes, such as the acquittal of the so-called mastermind of the liquid bomb plot Rashid Rauf by a court in Pakistan, because there wasn't any evidence against him. Makes you wonder what happened to the other "terror suspects", particular that of the 17 year old whose old school project drawings were cited as evidence of conspiracy. But it's probably too much to ask us our opinions on that, since it might confirm that the Govt were lying to us all the time, and we wouldn't want to open up that can of worms, now would we.
Merry Christmas all. Hope you have an happy centre-left New Year.
Are you spending or saving at Christmas?
Definatly spending.. Got a £6000 xmas bonus this year.. Won't be spending it on the high street however, online shopping all the way.
Mark Gillespie, Weymouth, United Kingdom
...are you kidding me, who the hell gets a £6000 salary bonus!!!?????
That's just blatently insulting to low income 'everyday Joe'reading this.
Maybe buy yourself some subtlety this christmas Mark.
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BBC Host, London, United Kingdom
That will never happen, its called 'Have Your Say' everyone is doing exactly what it says on the tin. May i suggest you scrap the house rules, if anything is deemed offensive let the offendee have their say, i'm quite sure if someone said something racist for example it would invoke interesting debate to say the least, why censor people when you can debate them into the floor, if someone is being obnoxious, install a 'vote them out' button. Now that is democratic and interactive.
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This is true. I saw a Muslim lady struggling to carry a Christmas tree home from the pub the other day.
Can you get more integrated into British society than that?
Woo Hoo, Europe
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Thanks for the laugh.
With Christmas just a few days away, the retail world is becoming increasingly polarised.
While companies such as John Lewis are performing well with sales up 11 per cent up on last year, Woolworths at the lower end of the market is struggling with sales 6 and half per cent down.
As well as competing with the large supermarkets for non-grocery items, High Street stores also face greater rivalry from online outlets, with internet spending tipped to grow by 40% this Christmas period.
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