Would you pay more for a "greener" car?
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I would pay more for a government that had the ba**s to tackle islamic extremists in our country.
IE the King Fahad school here in London would be a nice start!
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"I notice that there has been another letter bomb attack on a car related inistitution."
I guess someone has taken it upon themselves to bomb some sense into them.
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Those who think that electric cars are the future are forgetting three important scientifical facts:
- They can't go very fast
- Or very far
- If you drive one, everyone will think you're gay
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i'd use the car more out of spite for the government, and pay for the petrol by nicking stuff.
i'z only kiddin.
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...What one question do you ask to find out which gate is heaven?...
Assume the guards have no prior knowledge to earth facts i.e (Holding up a cat and saying is this a cat)
Derek Trotter,
Ask each guard what the other would say and do the opposite.
What is the point of this?
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BRAIN TEASER..
You arrive at 2 gates (one is for heaven one is for hell, you dont know which is which) There are 2 identical guards each guarding one gate.
The guard guarding Heaven ALWAYS tells the TRUTH, and the guard guarding Hell always LIES.
...What one question do you ask to find out which gate is heaven?...
Assume the guards have no prior knowledge to earth facts i.e (Holding up a cat and saying is this a cat)
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Ah! Ignoring the facts, dodging the question, resorting to abuse! You must be an environmentalist!
[Harry-Flashman]
In your little world Harry, anyone who doesnt laud your pearls of wisdom is abusive
Philby bradlaugh,
I believe Harry may have been reacting to the word ‘Patronising.’
I suspect he just enjoys goading lefties.
[always_pulled_off]
Still got the w.nking handle?
Would you pay more for a "greener" car?
Ah! Ignoring the facts, dodging the question, resorting to abuse! You must be an environmentalist!
[Harry-Flashman]
In your little world Harry, anyone who doesnt laud your pearls of wisdom is abusive
Philby bradlaugh,
I believe Harry may have been reacting to the word ‘Patronising.’
I suspect he just enjoys goading lefties.
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First they came for the smokers.
and the car drivers said nothing
Then they came for.......
Robert Sharr, London, United Kingdom
Cretin, you woulda been a collaborator anyway
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How much CO2 does a cremation release? how much CO2 does a stabled horse release in its life? Why don't we just have a WW3 and then we could have nice cars
NO I WOULD NOT PAY MORE FOR A RUBBISH CAR
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To the eco-facists:
UP YOURS! yes we need alternative sources of fuel but until such time I will carry on roaring down the motorway in my 2.8i 16V vehicle which I worked hard for.
Stop moaning and get on with enjoying your sad little lives, the fact is you're a bunch of hypocrites anyway so your opinions mean ZILCH!
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Are you an amnesiac Tory who forgets the extent of the capital asset stripping done by Thatcher et al.? That stuff makes Brown look prudent - no wonder it was boom and bust. 1988... ah the joys of negative equity.
(P.S. Keep on reading the Daily Mail.)
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
*Yawn* @ your daily "Daily Mail" comments. I'm not suffering from amnesia and I actually live in the UK and I can tell you you're wrong.
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"Are you an amnesiac Tory ………..". Tarek Hughes
No Tareq, I am not! In fact, it is the blindness of people like you and your faith in NuLabour which has kept Blair in power. Pension Slayer Brown inherited a mega strong economy in 1997 and has squandered it. Got a private pension have you? Checked its value lately?
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Although this is a useful initiative, I think it shows a deep misunderstanding of the energy problem at hand: cars are not part of the solution however they are run, and we have to start thinking beyond the car, and radically change the way we live towards more locally than centrally based systems for food distribution, work, education, medicine, culture, everything.
A very good write up on these issues by the author of "The long emergency" is here: ********
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"You must be a fake. No gent has spelling and punctuation that bad.
And why do you hang out with gay traitors?
Phosgene Gasse"
My dear chap - When have I ever laid claim to being a gentleman ?? My dock-labourer father would spin in his grave at the very suggestion.
And as for the spelling/punctuation, I was earning my living at 15 not getting eductated.
Afraid I don't understand your reference to treasonous homosexuals, obviously far too subtle for a simple chap like me.
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No Tareq, I am not! In fact, it is the blindness of people like you and your faith in NuLabour which has kept Blair in power. Pension Slayer Brown inherited a mega strong economy in 1997 and has squandered it. Got a private pension have you? Checked its value lately?
The Amazing Mrs Pritchard, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Well the AMAZING lady you just vote the tories back in and then we can see most of our public services shut down and everything else go to ruins like it did before.
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Looking at the voting on this HYS it would appear that global warming eco fascists are happy to ignore the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence (behind natures contribution to global warming), but believe an urban myth about water powered cars.
With a public LIKE this we're all doomed
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"Destroy our economy and make us a 3rd world state so a few sandal wearing cyclists can feel self righteous" Bob
"I will carry on roaring down the motorway in my 2.8i 16V vehicle which I worked hard for." Anon
Once again HYS confirms that EXPLAINING to the donkey why it shouldn't lie on the railway tracks is pointless. You just have to drag it to safety, ignoring it's stubborn wishes for it's own good.
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As a self confessed 'petrol head' I would not want anything to do with a 'green' car.
Top Gear's Jeremy, Hamster, Captain Slow and Top Gear Dog rule!
Tarquil Bergkamp, Brentwood, United Kingdom
No they are just idiots with small pen!ses
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As a self confessed 'petrol head' I would not want anything to do with a 'green' car.
Top Gear's Jeremy, Hamster, Captain Slow and Top Gear Dog rule!
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"Are you an amnesiac Tory ………..". Tarek Hughes
No Tarek, I am not! In fact, it is the blinkers on people like you which have kept Blair in power. Pension Slayer Brown inherited a mega strong economy in 1997 and has squandered it. Got a private pension have you? Checked its value lately?
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The GB public really is totally paranoid. The conspiracy theories flying round EVERY HYS thread are laughable.
The Green conspiracies
The Nu-labour conspiracies
The Un
The EU
The BBC
The Liberal Elite
Enforced PC
Enforced Multiculturalism
etc
Did it ever occour to you that the reason society doesn't reflect and promote your views is NOT because there's a 100 top-level conspiracies blocking your brilliant plans but because your a fringe loony with a tenuous grasp on reality?
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"Here here. And while we're at it, end IVF on the NHS and spend the money on treating real diseases, e.g. cancer and heart disease, instead."
Except for smokers and fat people presumably?????
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'We castigate smokers, we should castigate breeders too.'
Here here. And while we're at it, end IVF on the NHS and spend the money on treating real diseases, e.g. cancer and heart disease, instead.
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If we really wanted to go green we would reduce our population. There is nothing worse than pumping babies into the world. They Consume and grow, exponentially, and require more resources from our tiny world.
Issue condoms to all, Limit Family size to 2 children, cancel child allowance, and impose stiff taxation on those who breed more.
Babies are not a right, they are a choice and a luxury, and the Earth needs fewer of them.
We castigate smokers, we should castigate breeders too.
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"You still don't understand the scientific method and use of terms like "fact" and "theory". A fact is derived from emiprical evidence. A theory (which in scientific use is not synonymous with "conjecture") is an explanation of the facts that makes predictions that can be tested.
R Descartes
Like I said before the GW doubters have the same sane rational approach as creationists.
Philby bradlaugh,"
Dont you just love it 4C? How far up ones own intellectual backside can a chap get?
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"the whole 'Man-made global warming' thing has been made up by the Greens and governments acting together. This enables the Greens to impose their 'hair shirt' lifestyles on the rest of us (something they've always wanted to do) and the government get more in taxes. Call me a cynic, but I know i'm right."
You don't know you're right, you'ld like to be right. As someone with no scientific expertise no-one with any sense will believe you.
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This is a little bit of a non entity of a debate anyway. Most gas guzzling cars are already thousands of pounds more expensive than their smaller, cleaner buddies. I drive a BMW Z4, costs more than treble than a ford KA, or anything like it, so I already pay my tax and dues for it. I enjoy driving fast, I enjoy bruning fuel, I enjoy knowing the world will get hot and I am to blame (yes me personally!) and I don't care ! I will be dead, get over it !
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"So it's a fact now that any global warming or cooling is man-made! Man is apparently more powerful than nature and the 3 dimentional salty sea that covers 7/8ths of the earth has no effect on some CO2. The EU will force us all to drive EU approved vehicles, no more Ferraris, Bentleys, Porches just Trabants permitted in the enlightened EUSSR.
Anti EU, Sunbury-on-Thames"
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I hope you ignorant tw*ts are a dying breed, or you'll lead us to a point of no-return faster than anything else.
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European regulators are decades ahead of their US counterparts. For the life of me, I don't understand why there is not a uniform, international regulation with regard to vehicle manufacture. Would I pay more for a lesser-impacting vehicle if this were the result? Yes.
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Let's face it. All motorists are members of a death cult
John Sobieski, Bury, United Kingdom
That makes you either a) a jogger and therefore suicidal since they seem oblivous to the fact cars hitting them hurt, b) a motorcyclist who seem to all think they are invicible and ride around like total lunatics and then seem shocked that they got hit. Or c) you cant afford or dont need a car so you enjoy having a go at people who do and can.
Idiot.
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"Dont you just love it 4C? How far up ones own intellectual backside can a chap get?" Robert sharr
I say Robsie my old bean! Prithee old chap, do tell? Don't you think you're laying on the old moustache twirling jaunty lad-about-town act just a wee bit thick, what? I mean to say, old thing, your not exactly Wodehouse, are you? I mean, no offense but, he was funny. Toodle ooh!
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Tony Blair's speech at Davos on 27th January 2007 included this line "Britain accounts for around 2 per cent of total emissions - any agreement that does not have binding commitments from America, China and India is not one that can deliver. If Britain shut down our emissions entirely ie we closed down the country, the growth in China's emissions would make up the difference within just two years." What difference would greener cars make?? Sod all unless the other superpowers are forced into it!
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I agree with the blue monkey...
If we are in a restaurant and you dont like the food, you leave! We are all mugs for just taking this up the back passage..
what do we do to fight back??? go on BBC forums HAHAHA pathetic really, and yes I include myself in that
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"You're wrong. A FACT is anything I say with the words "that's a FACT" at the end of. Especially if I use capital letters and that's a FACT."
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"You still don't understand the scientific method and use of terms like "fact" and "theory". A fact is derived from emipirical evidence.
Physical scientist. Peer reviewed journals are probably the most reliable sources of verified facts, key is repeatable; "thats a fact" emphasises it's opinion"
Quick into the playground 4C - Bundle!!!
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Listen up people.... I agree with what you all say but theres a very blunt bottom line to this..
YOUR ALL MOANING BUT YOUR STILL LIVING HERE! EITHER ACCEPT THE UK AS IT IS OR BUGGAR OFF.
Simple really isnt it
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""Dont you just love it 4C? How far up ones own intellectual backside can a chap get?" Robert sharr
I say Robsie my old bean! Prithee old chap, do tell? Don't you think you're laying on the old moustache twirling jaunty lad-about-town act just a wee bit thick,
Nathaniel Spoonbucket"
Nathaniel old man, you wound me sorely.Im sorry my harmless affecations offends you so. They come from a lifetime of doing business with middle/upper classe twits (or twots if you prefer)
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YOUR ALL MOANING BUT YOUR STILL LIVING HERE! EITHER ACCEPT THE UK AS IT IS OR BUGGAR OFF.
Simple really isnt it
Blue Monkey,
Nah - fix it!
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"You still don't understand the scientific method and use of terms like "fact" and "theory". A fact is derived from emipirical evidence. Peer reviewed journals are probably the most reliable sources of verified facts. "thats a fact" emphasises it's opinion" Phil
"Quick into the playground 4C - Bundle!!!"
Robert Sharr, UK
Robert, what does this MEAN?
I find your posts are getting more and more.. well I guess 'obscure' would be the polite word for it.
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Yes, that's a far more healthy option than, say-: Campaigning and lobbying to change things you disagree with, joining local or community groups to address issues, approaching and joining council or government advisory panels, demonstrating, using your vote to elect better representatives.
Centuries of democracy in this country and your answer is 'Shut up, put up or get out'. Well done!
[pjdenyer]
Hows the demonstrations getting on? I take it your just taking a 5min break from it all
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EITHER ACCEPT THE UK AS IT IS OR BUGGAR [sic] OFF.
Simple really isnt it
Blue Monkey, Mayfair
Yes, that's a far more healthy option than, say-: Campaigning and lobbying to change things you disagree with, joining local or community groups to address issues, approaching and joining council or government advisory panels, demonstrating, using your vote to elect better representatives.
Centuries of democracy in this country and your answer is 'Shut up, put up or get out'. Well done!
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YOUR ALL MOANING BUT YOUR STILL LIVING HERE! EITHER ACCEPT THE UK AS IT IS OR BUGGAR OFF.
Simple really isnt it
Blue Monkey,
Nah - fix it!
chris heatley
HAHA I agree Chris, but sending a message on HYS isnt going to "fix it"
Lazy springs to mind, not to mention "typical brit"
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'By tax have your say posts!!'
You as a someone living outside the UK 'Have your say' on the BBC website courtesy of the British TV licence payers. I personally would like to see the licence fee spent on something better than providing a platform to right wing obsessives - a tax on 'Have your say' posts would be most welcome.
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HAHA I agree Chris, but sending a message on HYS isnt going to "fix it"
Lazy springs to mind, not to mention "typical brit"
Derek Trotter, Essex, United Kingdom
All I can say is thank god the rightwhingers on HYS are not in power. Imagine the country we would be living in:
All public works in a shambles as tax is reduced to meaningless levels.
Millions paid in compensation to wrongfully executed suspects' families
The pariah of the world for our treatment of immigrants.
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'By tax have your say posts!!'
You as a someone living outside the UK 'Have your say' on the BBC website courtesy of the British TV licence payers. I personally would like to see the licence fee spent on something better than providing a platform to right wing obsessives - a tax on 'Have your say' posts would be most welcome.
[TiberiusGracchus]
Or a refund everytime I read a blatantly left wing bbc style article which does not represent an unbiased, objective standpoint?
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Gordon will tax any new car initiatives.
He wants to tax everyone for everything.
If Alien's were to land in Britain he'd tax their spaceship.
Lewis Hoggard, Windsor, United States
I'd rather live here where our tax is at a reasonable level than in a country where the poor live in squalor and the sick who don't have insurance die in order to allow the wealthy to retain more wealth. Great budget deficit too! So so glad I left.
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Gordon will no doubt have an oxygen tax on us soon for all oxygen consumed whilst we are in Britain.
The less oxygen we consume the more green we are right??
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"Europeans need to have more faith"
Lewis Hoggard, United States
Christian "faith" says that the Earth is flat (e.g. not a planet) and that God commanded refugees from Egypt to steal land (and kill ALL the inhabitants if they resisted). "Faith" is just man's way of justifing laziness, greed, selfishness, stupidity, tyranny, genocide, and ignorance.
But the question is wrong. Fuel economy and efficiency do not cost "more". "Europeans" need to have more science - not "faith".
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"God will save our glorious planet.
Europeans need to have more faith.
Amen"
Lewis Hoggard, Windsor, United States
Good to know that rational principles are behind the USA's refusal to deal with GW, their continued use of the death penalty and their belief that they are the instrument to spreasd democracy across the world by force of arms. I was worried that they were superstitious believers in a non-existent deity,
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They prefer to believe non scientific hyperbole rather than theories based on empirical evidence, thus they equate to creationists.
Philby bradlaugh, United Kingdom
Still peddling every word printed in the Guardian as gospel truth I see, Philby......
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"They prefer to believe non scientific hyperbole rather than theories based on empirical evidence, thus they equate to creationists.
Philby bradlaugh, United Kingdom
Still peddling every word printed in the Guardian as gospel truth I see, Philby......
Dr Jezza, Nottingham"
Never mind that Doctor old chap - can you tell me what empirical means ?- It seems pivotal to just about every one of Philby's diatribes
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No; why should it cost more? I'm gratified to see that society has changed so much that the average car now emits less CO2 than my own, so I've started shopping for a smaller car which will be more environmentally friendly. It'll cost me less to buy, less in tax and less in petrol. I'll still cycle to work though - don't want to get fat like all those anti-green yanks!
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Hmm. Seems the BBC refuses to let me provide a link to an important site that helps counter the IPCC's scaremongering.
Go to the wwwDOTriendsofscienceDOTorg website and choose the Video menu item.
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What is the BEEB afraid of? They have removed all the references to "water powered cars" from the "most recommended" page. As daft or feasible as these ideas might be, why is the Beeb removing them from the discussion? What gives BEEB? Who is telling you to remove references to H20 powered vehicles? And does the very fact that they are removing them not give credence to the notion that the "powers-that-be" don't want the ideas widely publicised? BBC=BigBrotherCorporation...
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What gives BEEB? Who is telling you to remove references to H20 powered vehicles?
[SpinIsLies], London, United Kingdom
No! The BBC? Politically tainted? Don't be so SILLY!! The very thought, it's ridiculous! Actually I noticed the same thing - the BBC or someone connected to it obviously does not want certain things discussed or publicised too widely. Mind you, not for the first time...!!!
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They were removed because they were dozy irrelevant NONSENSE. But believe in covert forces at the BBC if it makes you feel important and maverick
colin colin, United Kingdom
Colin, if the criteria for removal was to be dozy or irrelevant, your comments would never appear! But you miss the point it is not up to the BBC to decide whis parts of a discussion are irrelevant or not - and when they DO then that constitutes interference. Or are you too dozy to see that?!
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What gives BEEB? Who removed references to H20 powered vehicles? SpinIsLies UK
No! The BBC? Politically tainted? The very thought, it's ridiculous! Actually I noticed the same thing - the BBC or someone connected to it obviously does not want certain things publicised too widely. Mind you, not for the 1st time...!!!
They were removed because they were dozy irrelevant NONSENSE. But believe in covert forces at the BBC if it makes you feel important and maverick
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Once again the BBC seeks to create rather than report on news or agendas. I refer to the issue a few people have remarked upon so far - I noticed earlier comments at the top of the "most recommended" list from Derek Trotter and Joanne Toms talking about "water powered cars". These comments no longer exist. Why is the BBC attempting to skew discussion one way or another? Yet more proof that nobody but nobody in the media can be trusted as far as then can be spat...
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The USA, as the proven biggest polluter, should be forced to comply with international clean air requirements and until then should be boycotted.
[alexandrelegrand], London, United Kingdom
HA!! Bring it on, eurotrash! We'll RUIN YOU!!
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You come from CT right? Do you not think CT would get a bit 'ruined' by increased and broader hurricane activity and rising sea levels?
Thomas Brown, Vauxhall, London, United Kingdom
There were no hurricanes to speak of in 2006 and CT is more than 12 inches above sea level.
This makes the point GW is a belief system basied on coincidence, not statistical correlation. Don't believe too much of what Al Gore says in a movie.
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If the planners allowed us to build proper houses in the right places, we wouldn't have half the country commuting vast distances and consequently sitting in traffic jams burning fuel to go nowhere. Get rid of the greenbelt mentality, let the house prices come down to a sensible level so people can afford to live nearer their workplaces and the CO2 will fall by 25% anyway.
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If the Governent agrees to abolish car road taxation for "green" cars then it is a good thing. If there is not any reduction or abolition of road taxation, then they can go and **** my ****
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"He is not qualified to judge the science." Harry Flashman.
Hoisted by your own petard.
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Do you really think we can impact the weather? We can barely predict it! Just a few weeks ago the doomsayers were preaching about global warming in NYC. This week it has been sub zero temperatures in NYC. What global warming? Driving a green car won't affect anything. And I surely wouldn't pay more for one!
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The government will make you pay, no matter what type of car you buy... cars are modern day taxation devices, just addup what it costs to own and run a car, then break that amount down to the tax cost and then work out the without tax nett costs. I am sure you will be shocked. cars are income tax devices on wheels, that you can only use "LEGALLY" if you pay the government their protection money. tax on transport should not be used to subsidise others areas or pleby people, as the tax system seems to say that society in the UK is a very unjust and unfair place, where people who save and earn money are legally robbed, by a government whos members themselves make a very good paid living off the backs of those who work hard for a living.
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Billy Bamboo - over population is indead a problem. So are attitudes like yours.
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Global warming is poppycock, a political pseudo-science to raise taxes. Climate change has been happening since the Earth was formed. Burn as much fuel as you wish, our little emissions are insignificant. You won't find me in any form of eco-transport or recycling-only fools are sucked into that. In the unlikely event that I am wrong, it is up to our children to deal with the aftermath, and if millions are wiped out, then so be it, that is natural selection. Over population is the problem.
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Global warming is poppycock, a political pseudo-science to raise taxes. Climate change has been happening since the Earth was formed. Burn as much fuel as you wish, our little emissions are insignificant. You won't find me in any form of eco-transport or recycling-only fools are sucked into that. In the very unlikely event that I am wrong, it be up to our children to deal with the aftermath, and if millions are wiped out, then so be it, that is natural selection. Over population is the problem.
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Am I the only one whose postings are disappearing faster than Tequilla at Superman's bachelor party? That's 3 for 3 now.
Go on, BBC. Make this one 4 for 4.
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I don't think Al Gore is doing too badly...
[masa4444], london, United Kingdom
Bono springs to mind too.
[politeDevoz], Portsmouth, United Kingdom
Al Gore - a.k.a. the one who didn’t win.
Bono - The environmental campaigner, not to be confused with the rich pop star who flew his favourite hat first class from London to Italy! Very environmentally friendly.
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I know, like with the THEORY of evolution [with absolutely nothing anyone objective could call evidence for it, by the way] the dissenter immediately gets shot down. In 'scientific' circles, the THEORIES in favour have been elevated to the status of holy writ and are similarly enforced.
Steven McDaniel, Sand Springs, United States
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In 'scientific' circles, the THEORIES in favour have been elevated to the status of holy writ and are similarly enforced.
Steven McDaniel, Sand Springs, United States
Your problem is that on both issues you are not brave rebels standing for challenging ideas. On evolution, which is based on observation and scientific facts, you people are squirming around with the "intelligent design" wheeze at the moment. On GW the models all show significate human impact but again you ignore the facts.
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To Steven McDaniel, Sand Springs, United States, in extremist Christian circles, the desire to treat a translation of a Hebrew text means that a metaphorical story gets elevated to literal truth. When you stop treating the Bible as literal truth and read up on Semitic language grammar, then I think I'll have found evidence supporting the theory you are intelligent instead of indoctrimnated.
And if you find that offensive, that is your issue.
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"God created the banana as fast food, being eminently peelable and edible, with no seeds. So, did the devil create the delicious Prickly Pear, or does God just prefer bananas ? Give me the theory of evolution and man-made global warming any day"
Daniel Rubinstein, London, United Kingdom
"This sh** is bananas. B-A-N-A-N-A-S"
Gwen Stefani, USA.
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"the THEORY of evolution [with absolutely nothing anyone objective could call evidence for it, by the way] Steven McDaniel"
If evolution doesn't happen, how would it be possible for Avian flu to mutate to a form that can be contagious between humans?
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If I may digress for a moment, it seems it would take more than eco-friendly cars, or even super-jumbos, to get our nation's skiving teachers to work today.
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This is average global temp over the last 100 years. The rate of change over the last 30 years looks interesting.
1905 0.00
1915 .16
1925 .09
1935 .15
1945 .32
1955 .15
1965 .14
1975 .20
1985 .31
1995 .63
2005 .88
Tom Bombadil, UK
OI!
Bombadil!
NO!
I appreciated your rescue of the Hobbits and some of your songs are almost as good as the marvellous Phil Collins. But DO NOT use meaningful statistics to support theories! It is against all the rules of HYS debate.
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It always makes me laugh when I see someone at the side of the road in their broken down old car.
Laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.
Just my sense of humour, I guess.
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No I would not pay more, it is just another unjust tax backed by the green brigade.
If the government is serious about helping the enviroment, then stop all imports from China. We have all seen the pollution created from massive production in this country. And then the pollution to transport it over here. We should be making our own products here, creating jobs and lowering taxes.
Check out this website on the warming issue ********. htm
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It always makes me laugh when I see someone at the side of the road in their broken down old car.Laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.
Just my sense of humour, I guess.
Andrew Carter, London, United Kingdom
Or lack of one.
Winding people up a hobby of yours, is it, Mr Carter?
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I used to do some bits to help with the environment, recycling and stuff like that. But I had stopped now for a few reasons:
a) you could be fined for putting the wrong waste into the wrong recycling bin
Alvin Leong,
Agreed. I gave up the day I read about the guy from Swansea who got a criminal record when a piece of paper was found in a sack of his rubbish.
The heck with them.
[Harry-Flashman]
Must have been a REALLY strong commitment. Pathetic
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i bought my first turbo diesel car for the first time last week, and 1 week later it snows!!
co incidence? i fink not.
i suggest everyone buys turbo diesels, and a sledge. woohoo.
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Agreed. I gave up the day I read about the guy from Swansea who got a criminal record when a piece of paper was found in a sack of his rubbish.
The heck with them.
[Harry-Flashman]
Must have been a REALLY strong commitment. Pathetic
Philby bradlaugh,
Phil,
Please don't refer to your comments as pathetic, leave it up to the rest of us to judge them.
B.T.W. You didn't explain why we should take the risk of getting a criminal record through recycling?
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"And that would be even more if my taxes did not subsidise your driving. Your grasp of the facts is laughable. Stop playing the victim.
Martin R, London "
- So exactly which taxes of yours subsidise private motor vehicles, and how?
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Did you also know that China plan to build a new coal power station every week for the next 7 years. Coal is the most pollution generating fossil fuel, not very carbon neutral is it?
[footysurfrat], Devon, United Kingdom
A childish way to deflect the argument away from oneself's actions and responsibilities...
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"It might be a 4x4, it might use more petrol, but its 'greener' than your car I bet.
[johnboy41], Watford, United Kingdom
Its still a chelsea tractor intended for namby pambies with overweight kids.
Stuart S"
Stuart, such jealousy will eat you up in side. Why not get a good job, work hard and then you'll be able to afford a proper car for yourself.
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And that would be even more if my taxes did not subsidise your driving. Your grasp of the facts is laughable. Stop playing the victim.
Martin R, London
One could argue that, as motorists already pay more in taxes than is spent on the transport network etc., it is actually the motorists that are subsidising you.
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"The theory that cow [wind] add more greenhouse gas to the atmosphere than people driving cars or burning coal in power stations, cows are bio-fuelled! Of course, if anyone out there knows a farmer who feeds his cows with fossils fuels" ~ Tim Black"
So it's safe to assume my Goldtop is unleaded then?
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"Why will anybody else bother before we do?Why shouldn't they though? They live on this planet too"
Stephen J Brown, London, United Kingdom
Ah... I remember when I too was still at school, and hadn't yet figured out that the world wasn't fair.
Wasn't that a great time? Playing with your mates after school, hiding from your Mum when she called you in for dinner.
Stephen, you are SOOOO lucky you haven't grown up yet. Don't rush it. Enjoy your childhood while it lasts.
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Google "water powered car", or try the same search on Youtube. We do not need to rely on oil - it's all about vested interests!!!
Joanne Thoms
a "water powered car" runs by burning hydrogen & oxygen, producing pure water. to get the hydrogen & oxygen, we need to split them from water, and to do so requires (quite a lot of) energy.
where do you think that energy will come from...... power stations powered by fossil feuls, same with electric cars.
so back to the drawing board then?
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"the whole 'Man-made global warming' thing has been made up by the Greens and governments acting together. This enables the Greens to impose their 'hair shirt' lifestyles on the rest of us (something they've always wanted to do) and the government get more in taxes. Call me a cynic, but I know i'm right."
You are so very right Andrew, I agree entirely!!!
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Another tax-grab by the hateful EU under cover of 'protecting the environment'. If you ask me, the whole 'Man-made global warming' thing has been made up by the Greens and governments acting together. This enables the Greens to impose their 'hair shirt' lifestyles on the rest of us (something they've always wanted to do) and the government get more in taxes. Call me a cynic, but I know i'm right.
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Google "water powered car", or try the same search on Youtube. We do not need to rely on oil - it's all about vested interests!!!
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TRUE STORY - there was an american guy about 15 years ago who invented an H2o powered car, this was exhibited in Oklahoma and this man was set to make millions... during a gap of 3 months this man said that his invention was flawed. (no explanations or reinventions)
This man has not been seen since, some believe he lives in Mexico but sceptics say he was "given a Warning.." - basically if his invention got out the government would lose millions on fuel!!
Its about £££ and secret agents
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"Google "water powered car", or try the same search on Youtube. We do not need to rely on oil - it's all about vested interests!!!" Joanne Thoms, UK
It's true the oil industry & others do some pretty underhand things to keep making money, but this particular story is just a conspiracy theory. It's true that fuel cells have been invented that split oxygen & hydrogen from water (Sir William Robert Grove demonstrated the process in 1839!!), and that hydrogen could run a car engine. However, it takes MORE energy to extract the hydrogen than the energy it produces, so it is not really a viable option. Sorry!
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Why is it some people (usually the Right Whingers) claim that Great Britain is great but then complain and wants to leave. At the same time these same people accuse the "Liberals" and minorities of hating this country. How hypocritical!
leftwing lefty,
'Was' - Not 'Is.'
That's why so many are leaving!
Liberals do hate this country.
That's why they are destroying so much of our culture, history and traditions.
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The day is fast approaching when the people of the EU will call time on these unelected power-hungry beurocrats, and tell them once and for all to **** off. WE ARE SICK OF YOUR UNELECTED INTERFERENCE COMMISSIONERS!!
[sirDBMcD], Ex-pat The Hague, Netherlands
Splendid - a total lack of understanding of 1) basic spelling, 2) common courtesy - swearing, and 3) the political role of the European Commission. Do you actualy have the faintest clue what their governmental role is? Really?
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TRUE STORY - there was an american guy about 15 years ago who invented an H2o powered car - Derek
There was indeed, Derek. Stanley Meyer (the forerunner of this idea) died of food poisoning suddenly in a resteraunt some time later. The water powered engine was a success
H20 fuel is currently being used for cutting equipment though cars have been easily converted to run on it. Check out hytechapps.com
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To the eco-facists:
UP YOURS! yes we need alternative sources of fuel but until such time I will carry on roaring down the motorway in my 2.8i 16V vehicle which I worked hard for.
Stop moaning and get on with enjoying your sad little lives, the fact is you're a bunch of hypocrites anyway so your opinions mean ZILCH!
[Replicant]
You have no children then? please jump out of the gene pool at the 1st chance.
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"They prefer to believe non scientific hyperbole rather than theories based on empirical evidence, thus they equate to creationists.
Philby bradlaugh, United Kingdom
Actually all this MMCC/GW/GH thing is very much a religious event. Proponents all have the religious fervor of 15th and 16th century zealots chasing after heretics.
Is it any wonder why all this comes off to many as anything but science? How empty is a scientific argument that relies upon attacking another's personal beliefs
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Isolate the offenders and see how far they get on without the rest of the world
William B, Cambridge, United Kingdom
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Bill,
To a large extent we already aren't really sure you exist.
The European Commission wants to force carmakers to design and build vehicles that are more environmentally friendly.
The proposals would mean cutting emissions from new models by nearly twenty-percent over the next five years.
European car makers have said this would push up the price of vehicles and any new rules need to be phased in slowly.
Would you be willing to pay extra to cut emissions? Do you think the EU proposals will work? Some car makers want other measures, such as cleaner fuels, to play a part. Do you agree?
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