What should happen to the House of Lords?
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What should happen to the House of Lords?
"B.T.W. John Chang - I don't read the Mail"
[harold-flashman]
Then let me congratulate you on the best impression of a Mail reader I have ever encountered! It's inspired.
And worrying.
John Chang,
May I congratulate you on your attempt to impersonate an inteligent human being.
It is nearly convincing.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"B.T.W. John Chang - I don't read the Mail"
[harold-flashman]
Then let me congratulate you on the best impression of a Mail reader I have ever encountered! It's inspired.
And worrying.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Oh, I get it – you lefties hate being told you are in the same camp as the BNP so you are engaging in your usual deflection.
Righty RightWing,
The last time I checked, the BNP weren't "lefty".
House of Lords reform? As a lefty, yes. But not to this extent. The fact that the House of Lords is appointed and independent is one of it's strengths.
We should keep that and reform it to include elected peers. Too much in favour of one radical solution will just make it worse.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Oh, I get it – you lefties hate being told you are in the same camp as the BNP so you are engaging in your usual deflection.
Shame none of you could argue against the point
Righty Rightwing
How can they?
The BNP are left wing!
Have you read their manifesto Philby / Phil B?
They want to re-nationalise the railways!
That is about as left wing as it gets.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Oh, I get it – you lefties hate being told you are in the same camp as the BNP so you are engaging in your usual deflection.
Shame none of you could argue against the point
Righty Rightwing
How can they?
The BNP are left wing!
Have you read their manifesto Philby
They want to re-nationalise the railways!
That is about as left wing as it gets.
[harold-flashman]
Even I know they aint left wing. They gotta a coupla leftwing economy policies everything else is hard right!
What should happen to the House of Lords?
You don't live in the UK
You probably watch Fox New Channel
You have no valid opinion on this issue
Why bother commenting"
[Person_with_a_brain], Brain-land
I AM BRITISH. I don't believe you about the brain business - maybe you should exercise it more as it's in poor shape.
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
Tarek, the other thing is the poor deluded soul would love Fox, just on his rabid right wavelength
What should happen to the House of Lords?
I think Righty Rightwing is a very very biased pinkoliberal claiming the BNP is leftist to make us believe he really is rightwing. But he pushes the Euro liberal agenda all the way.
*** Vote Russ: he's no Wuss ***
What should happen to the House of Lords?
I never used the word racist, why are you? I don't think for one second that only right-wingers are racist. That would be a stupid thing to say. Nationalism is not the same as racism.
(sound of slow clapping)
Woo Hoo,
You refered to the BNP wishing to act to restrict "Non-white" immigration.
In other words, that they would operate a racially defined immigration policy.
In other words, that they are racist.
You really should read your own posts.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
So,
Your erudite political analysis is that the BNP are really right-wing, because only Right-Wingers can be racist!
(sound of very slow clapping)
[harold-flashman]
I never used the word racist, why are you? I don't think for one second that only right-wingers are racist. That would be a stupid thing to say. Nationalism is not the same as racism.
(sound of incredibly slow clapping)
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Reasoned arguments? Since when? You posit your point and insult people who reason with it.
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
Wow an American interfering in UK politics. Thats something new.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
BTW... Did you know that HYS threads are monitored by an anti-censorship website called 'News Sniffer' and all the comments that are 'pulled' from HYS are collected and easy to access. You can flick through all the squabbles and sniping we've indulged in and marvel at how petty we can get! ;-)
(There's an awful lot of Philby vs. Flashman rallies, I must say!)
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"You really should read your own posts."
[Harry-Flashman]
Ditto. Maybe we've exhausted the BNP being left or right wing - we could leave it at most people thinking it is right wing.
(Slow clapping ends)
What should happen to the House of Lords?
That would include UKIP, The Greens & The BNP.
You happy about that?
[always_pulled_off]"
Yep - why not? I would be happy about that. Minority groups should be represented, whoever are. This would be moving to proportional representation - much fairer.
Why deny people voting for UKIP, Greens & BNP if that's what they want?
Britain's Ruined,
I have no problem with it at all, I am just pointing out that this is a consequence of PR, and a lot of people on here object to free speech
What should happen to the House of Lords?
We know what you think is going to happen. But I tell you now, and note it well, the British people wil NEVER vote in numbers for a racist party like the BNP.
Philby bradlaugh,
I do hope you are right, but I fear you are wrong.
If they ever do win big, it will be due to the negligence of mainstream politicians and the stupidity of the well-intentioned but misguided left wing generally. You know who I mean.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
The last time I checked with the Electoral Commission website, all three parties you named are legal & democratic political parties registered in the UK - what is your problem with these established & growing alternative political forces in the UK?
The status quo will change in May
Righty Rightwing
We know what you think is going to happen. But I tell you now, and note it well, the British people wil NEVER vote in numbers for a racist party like the BNP.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
We know what you think is going to happen. But I tell you now, and note it well, the British people wil NEVER vote in numbers for a racist party like the BNP.
Philby bradlaugh, United Kingdom
I hope the British do vote a few in, it will be the biggest wake up call in history, Then maybe just maybe Mr Blair er! sorry Brown and Mr Cameron might just start to listen to the people they claim to represent. As for the House of Lords, there is only one way..elected by proportional representation
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FYI: I used to vote Tory, but will vote UKIP at every opportunity in the future. Attacking all your opponents as supporters of the BNP is becoming a bore.
Righty Rightwing
Funny that... This week the UKIP was discovered to have several sernior members who've been funding the BNP over a long period of time. What a coincidence!
And you've NEVER denied being a BNP member, despite 100s of opportunities.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Philby old chap,
For the last time I would never vote for a left wing socialist party like the BNP.
Try reading their manifesto - I cannot relate to any of their major policies because I am a right wing democrat.
FYI: I used to vote Tory, but will vote UKIP at every opportunity in the future.
Attacking all your opponents as supporters of the BNP is becoming a bore.
Lords reform? The last vindictive act of a disastrous neo socialist party in the political history of Great Britain.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Righty Rightwing, will you clarify?
Are you in or have you ever voted for the BNP?
John Chang,
You have the floor Senator McCarthy!
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"And you've NEVER denied being a BNP member, despite 100s of opportunities."
Unwanted Junk Male, Cruel Brittania
Righty Rightwing, will you clarify?
Are you in or have you ever voted for the BNP?
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"This is an unwarranted indirect accusation, to publicly suggest without proof that someone is or has belonged to a political group, on the HYS is immoral." John
Yeah! Yeah! The far-right love to insist on their liberal freedoms being respected.
Of course no-one has to reveal their political beliefs. But... RRWs unrelenting proseltysing of every standard BNP argument is a declaration of sorts and allows us to conclude. If he doesn't like our conclusions he could clarify his position.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
And you've NEVER denied being a BNP member, despite 100s of opportunities.
Unwanted Junk Male, Cruel Brittania
This is an unwarranted indirect accusation, to publicly suggest without proof that someone is or has belonged to a political group, on the HYS is immoral, although i am against censorship and detest the BNP, this type of suggestion against a fellow contributor, no matter what his or her politics is wrong, i hope the moderator is monitoring this.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
And you've NEVER denied being a BNP member, despite 100s of opportunities.
Unwanted Junk Male, Cruel Brittania
To be honest Unwanted Junk Male, I personally would be more ashamed to be a member of the treasonous labour party than of the BNP after the disgraceful and shameful way that Labour has sold Britain down the river and failed the law abiding citizen.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Oh, I get it – you lefties hate being told you are in the same camp as the BNP so you are engaging in your usual deflection.
Shame none of you could argue against the point
Righty Rightwing
Well, I was assuming that was the "status quo change" you were talking about. Because UKIP are even less popular than the BNP. If your point is the tired old one that Nazis are socialists, that has been refuted so many times its not worth repeating and the same is the case for the BNP.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"No, absolutely NOT – I have NEVER been a member of or voted for the BNP. Ever. But no doubt that will not stop you making the accusation whenever my reasoned arguments destroy your 6th form debating skills. Oh, I get it – you lefties hate being told you are in the same camp as the BNP so you are engaging in your usual deflection. Shame none of you could argue against the point"
Righty Rightwing
Oooo! Get Her!
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Hello Children,
Excuse the delay, only 2 posts an hour gets in the way of putting you in your place.
No, absolutely NOT – I have NEVER been a member of or voted for the BNP. Ever.
But no doubt that will not stop you making the accusation whenever my reasoned arguments destroy your 6th form debating skills.
Oh, I get it – you lefties hate being told you are in the same camp as the BNP so you are engaging in your usual deflection.
Shame none of you could argue against the point
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"I'd be more ashamed to be a member of the treasonous labour party than of the BNP after the disgraceful and shameful way that Labour has sold Britain down the river and failed the law abiding citizen." Ian gray
Only because the BNP have never been allowed anywhere near the reins of power. The only encouraging thing about the European neo-nazis is that every time they received any authority, they UTTERLY ballsed it up. The far-right are incompetent clowns and Labour, by comparison, are Gods.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"RRWs unrelenting prosletysing of every standard BNP argument is a declaration of sorts and allows us to conclude. If he doesn't like our conclusions he could clarify his position." Unwanted JM
"No doubt that won't stop you making accusations whenever my reasoned arguments destroy your 6th form debating skills... Shame none of you could argue against the point" Righty RW
I gotta say, the 6th form teenager is the one blowing raspberrys, slamming doors and shouting, "Nobody understands me!"
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Righty Rigthwing, shuld i vote BNP then because they are on the left or shuld i vote BNP cos they are on the right?
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Maybe it is naive, but I'd rather have someone born into it, steeped in the rather old-fashioned concept of duty, You only have to compare the Queen (grace and servitude) with Blair (self-serving lies and crocodile tears).
Joanne Partridge
Grace and servitude?? Bleedin hell, millions of quid a year for waving a few hours. Bloody woman inflicted her retarded kids on us too. String her up!!
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But me and righty quite like the BNP. Is that bad? My IQ is 85.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Thay are not. You can stop being hysterical now.
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
You don't live in the UK
You probably watch Fox New Channel
You have no valid opinion on this issue
Why bother commenting
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"No, absolutely NOT – I have NEVER been a member of or voted for the BNP. Ever. But no doubt that will not stop you making the accusation whenever my reasoned arguments destroy your 6th form debating skills. Oh, I get it – you lefties hate being told you are in the same camp as the BNP so you are engaging in your usual deflection. Shame none of you could argue against the point"
Righty Rightwing
Reasoned arguments? Since when? You posit your point and insult people who reason with it.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
The BNP are far-right primarily because they are "committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration". Ethnocentrism and nationalism are almost exclusively preserves of the far-right. Left-wing philosophies lean towards internationalism.
Woo Hoo,
So,
Your erudite political analysis is that the BNP are really right-wing, because only Right-Wingers can be racist!
(sound of very slow clapping)
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"Same goes for our German monarchy."
Ranting Armchair Know-it-all, UK
Our Germano-Greco Monarchy, surely?
His Holiness The Pap
Nothing to do with the Greeks although Phillip is a member of the Greek Royal family they are all German too!
Their name is (was) Battenburg which was anglicized to Mountbatten at around the same time that King George dropped the ever so embarrasing Saxe-Coburg-Gotha in favour of Windsor.
Long live the Republic!
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Left-wing philosophies lean towards internationalism.
Woo Hoo,
Just as long as those left wingers (and more esp their kids) are not affected by 'internationalism' in the form of mass immigration (white or non). I suspect that had Tony Benn and his ilk been unable to provide a cast iron guarantee of success for his grandkids (expensive tutors, e.g), his delight in the swamping of his grandkids schools by non-English speaking immigrants would have been considerably less obvious. C'mon back
What should happen to the House of Lords?
What a disaster, no more checks and balalnces on the loonys in the commons when they have particualrly silly ideas.
The labour party is facist and this proves it. The only opposition now will have to come from the streets.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
First get rid of all religious figures in there as religion has no basis in a society deemed by many to be multi-cultural. Not one of the religions represented would approve of gays, who are supposed to have equal rights, Religion is an excuse to promote racism, homophobia and many other predjudices and in the 21st century should be confined to the home, like smoking and not allowed a say on issues that affect everyone.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
I can't wait to vote this rotten government out!
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"Is something more true if it is in bold?
Is it even more true if it is Capitals.
Or does that just mean you are sorry you can’t do powerpoint on here?
The Lords cannot block the Commons, they can delay legislation, that’s all.
Since 1911 the convention has been they don’t oppose manifesto commitments either."
[harold-flashman]
Maybe he was making it easier for a Mail-reader like you to understand - I gather from the tone of your attempted insult that this is your paper of choice!
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"Remember that Jack Straw said he would handle the Afghan highjackers personally. They are still here and have cost us over 10 million pounds" - he is going to deal with them - he is going to send them all a text message.....
What should happen to the House of Lords?
I seem to recall that the Monarchy was restored
and Cromwells corpse was hanged. Read your History, try the last 1000 years perhaps.
[RaulBarbosa], york, United Kingdom
The monarchy that was restored was overthrown again & replaced by lapdog monarchs.
The current royal family is German by descent.
Why don't you emigrate instead of reading History books written by second rate historians
By the way, before you tell someone to emigrate maybe you should check out their English pedigree.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
"Righty Rightwing, will you clarify?
Are you in or have you ever voted for the BNP?
John Chang,
You have the floor Senator McCarthy!"
[Harry-Flashman]
It is certainly a reasonable question IF this is Robert Sharr: he came out with some very off the wall racial equality stuff the other day.
We know you aren't a BNP supperter.
What should happen to the House of Lords?
John Chang
Have you stopped beating your wife?
What should happen to the House of Lords?
Has anyone ever noticed that when you guff in the bath it seems to make it smell worse?
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