Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
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Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Does he read the Guardian? Does he want to p1ss vast amounts of taxpayers money up the wall? If so, yes, he's ideal for the job.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Probably.
I've run out of posts on the Easter thing. just wanted to respond to this...
..... ease up. Liz beleives in God. Good for her. I don't but I bet she feels her faith makes her life better, why does that offend so many of you?
It reminds me of the Christian Nazi that I used to have as a school teacher. When faith was questioned she used to visibly shake, she'd grit her teeth and tears would well in her eyes. Religion, Christian or otherwise, seem s to breed this kind of extreme.
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"To find Alan Johnston?
First Name Last Name"
Ideally to move in with him.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Ideally to move in with him.
William B, Cambridge, United Kingdom
They do make a nice couple.
The BBC should just move their HQ to Gaza. Afterall, home is where the heart is.
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SNIFF MY FINGER! GO ON! SNIFF IT!
*waves finger about*
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
"The Arabs were killing Jews 30 years before Israel was reestablished.
Remember these steps
1) Get facts
2) Then post"
The Elitist
Hey - I'll say that again. Let's have no cretinous potted histories from either side. Both miss out a great deal and are not very good at getting to the cause of the problems.
Can you do that?
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"ALERT! BAD ARMCHAIR HISTORY WARNING.
This issue began in 1948, Elton, or maybe before that. Please don't bore us with cretinous potted histories from either side." - Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
Oh yes, you're right of course. The issue DID begin in 1948 - when the Arab neighbours attacked Israel as soon as the state was established. Failing in their attempt, that's exactly why they tried again in 1967. And in 1973. And again since then....
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"fervert hater of Israel and Jews."
reginald dwight, watford
"Nope. 720,000 ethnically cleansed to make way for the Zionist state. Nothing to do with Jews per se, except the ones being "cleansed" weren't" - Colin Campbell, Stockholm, Sweden
A significant portion of those who left that land in 1948 did so because their Arab leaders commanded them to leave, assuming that they would be able to come back when they had defeated Israel. And what about the Jews "cleansed" from Arab countries?
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"fervert hater of Israel and Jews."
reginald dwight, watford
Nope. 720,000 ethnically cleansed to make way for the Zionist state. Nothing to do with Jews per se, except the ones being "cleansed" weren't
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Bebe is right - if you read the UN definition of genocide, that would seem to apply to the 1948 land grab in creating the state of Israel.
It certainly seems to apply to bulldozing a quarter of Sidon for no obvious reason.
It doesn't matter if you like it or not.
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"By that token, I'll remind you that dispossessing people of their land by threatening to rape their women is genocide. In 1948 Israel committed genocide. It's true and can be backed up." - Bebe Rebozo
If you seriously believe rubbish like that, you'll believe anything. The only places you'll see this sort of claim is on an Islamic website written no doubt by a Hamas, Fatah or Islamic Jihad supporter and fervert hater of Israel and Jews.
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In 1948 Israel committed genocide. It's true and can be backed up - BUT DOES IT HELP HERE?
No.
Bebe Rebozo
Amazing how they managed to do that without the Palestinian population dropping. In fact, their population has consistently risen year after year.
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The Israeli/ Palestinian conflict bores the hell out of me.
Why don't people pay any attention to the wars in Africa where many more people die?
In my opinion it's either because blacks aren't seen as being as important as jews or arabs or because it's not fashionable enough.
Of course, this post will never make it upor be deleted following complaints.
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"It's not really cretinous or potted if it's true and can be backed up and is common knowledge. But I'm with you anyway, we're straying far from the subject matter at hand."
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By that token, I'll remind you that dispossessing people of their land by threatening to rape their women is genocide.
In 1948 Israel committed genocide. It's true and can be backed up - BUT DOES IT HELP HERE?
No.
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"Hey - I'll say that again. Let's have no cretinous potted histories from either side. Both miss out a great deal and are not very good at getting to the cause of the problems. Can you do that?"
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
It's not really cretinous or potted if it's true and can be backed up and is common knowledge. But I'm with you anyway, we're straying far from the subject matter at hand.
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Don't people understand what the Israeli flag means? The two horizontal lines represent the rivers Nile and Euphrates, in that they plan to re-occupy this land by whatever means necessary, since "God" apparently promised them it.
[scotbot], Room 101, Blairstrip 1
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And in scotbot's next post, the blood libel!
Please go back to school and stop spreading mindless propaganda. Your post has no affiliation with fact or reality.
I suggest people wiki 'star of David' for the answer
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anti-semitic bigots, Godless communists, Blairite slaves, Islington sissies, Bush-hating traitors and Lord knows what else.
Whoever runs Have Your Say must be a glutton for punishment.
Sean MacDhai
No Sean, you forgot the overriding majority of HYS-ers who are bigoted, rightwing, selfish, arrogant, racist, bullyboy thatcherites who lap up anything that the US administration tells them. Like you I suspect.
All keyboard warriors who would be apopletic if they had to serve their country
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"A significant portion of those who left that land in 1948 did so because their Arab leaders commanded them to leave." ~ basil fawlty, torquay
Isn't that just Israeli propaganda? By way of deception and all that.
Don't people understand what the Israeli flag means? The two horizontal lines represent the rivers Nile and Euphrates, in that they plan to re-occupy this land by whatever means necessary, since "God" apparently promised them it.
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'Is it really a land grab when the United Kingdom gives the land to you? By that token, India, Zimbabwe and the countless other countries achieving independence from the UK did so by so-called "land grabs."'
basil fawlty, torquay
Depends if people have to give up what they and their families owned for generations. You KNOW that but are refusing to see the point to make a point.
Bravo. You bore us rigid. And run a grotty hotel.
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Interesting how the Israelis managed this "land grab", given that the UN voted to create Israel.
A country created by the UN? surely that's about as legitimate as it gets for you lefty trolls who worship at the alter of the UN?
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"Bebe is right - if you read the UN definition of genocide, that would seem to apply to the 1948 land grab in creating the state of Israel.
It certainly seems to apply to bulldozing a quarter of Sidon for no obvious reason." - Martin R, London
Is it really a land grab when the United Kingdom gives the land to you? By that token, India, Zimbabwe and the countless other countries achieving independence from the UK did so by so-called "land grabs."
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Colin Campbell, Stockholm, Sweden
Always easy to spot an ISM troll.
First Name Last Name
You are on the wrong debate! Imaginary creatures are being discussed on Easter forum! Who cares about Arab/Israelis? They are all foreign! Tomorrow Belongs to us!
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Remember that no immigrants baked Brits in their own village ovens - again, another documented atrocity from a few people three years out of a death camp.
Bebe Rebozo
Not a people! Just some of a people! Stern and Irgun! Don't demonize a whole race! Thats the same as Islamophobia! Thats our job not yours! Tomorrow belongs to hot cross buns!
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Carter is factually & morally wrong. A has-been who should have retired out of sight, for his disgraceful handling of the Iran issue - which is one of the major reasons why the Mullahs are riding high now.
The mumbling fool is Hamas' best friend.
The Elitist
Hamas best friend is...George Bush! What a recruiter for militant Islam! His daddy was friends with Osama! Are the Bushes secret Jihadis? Is the Elitist the most inappropriate name on HYS? Tomorrow belongs to Bush!
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"The mumbling fool is Hamas' best friend."
The Elitist
Then say hello to Mr Haniyeh when you next take tea with him.
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Actually it was the Palestinians farmers that needed defending against the well organised migrants that entered Palestine to claim as their own. This is documented clearly but that’s my view of the FACTS. Israel was created under the same terrorist acts that are deplored today. BBC RULE
Naheem Rafiq, Manchester, United Kingdom
I bet you're glad we British don't treat migrants the same way Arabs treated Jewish migrants, huh?
e.g The Hebron massacre.
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Remember these steps
1) Get facts
2) Then post
The Elitist
We all have the facts it depends on how we want to portray them and with your right wing mind I know how you’re going to interpret these facts. Actually it was the Palestinians farmers that needed defending against the well organised migrants that entered Palestine to claim as their own. This is documented clearly but that’s my view of the FACTS. Israel was created under the same terrorist acts that are deplored today. BBC RULE
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Look at the hoo-ha over Jimmy Carter's recent comments. Jimmy is right, but even saying what he said attracts calls of antiSemitism to stifle discussion.
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
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Carter is factually & morally wrong. A has-been who should have retired out of sight, for his disgraceful handling of the Iran issue - which is one of the major reasons why the Mullahs are riding high now.
The mumbling fool is Hamas' best friend.
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It's so TORY to be homophobic.
Gay people exist, so deal with it and stop whingeing.
Billy Idle
Happy people exist, and expect alot of these happy people are homosexual.
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"Let me tell you something ... I'm neither Jewish nor Israeli, but I'll stand by that country against their savage neighbours till I die."
The Elitist
Hear hear! A nation so small that it can barely be seen on a map is surrounded on all sides by people who want to destroy it while the world does all it can to undermine it. THAT nation will always have my loyalty.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Don't count on it. Anti-Americanism and a paranoic obsession with Israel are pillars of the Eurabian-Euronationalistic agenda, of which the BBC is a vital tool. Sir Michael's function is to move the British public ever- closer to a state of dhimmitude.
[imperialBlixx], Storrs, United States
Aw diddums. And here was me thinking that everyone hates America because you keep electing idiots (as do we), so whatever the beeb says is irrelevant.
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Let me tell you something Mr 'free palestine' badge pinned to your proud little chest. I'm neither Jewish nor Israeli, but I'll stand by that country against their savage neighbours till I die.
The Elitist
Dear The Elitist. If I manage to get the Constitution amended, will you please come run for President? ... Please?
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"And who would discuss China when talking about Israel/Palestine? No sane person.
You are talking apologist rubbish."
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
No I'm not - it's a fact that China is occupying Tibet. It's more than relevant to the Israel/Palestine occupation issue. If you're going to criticise Israel for occupying Palestine, then you might as well criticise China for occupying Tibet, seeing as that's gone on for longer, is more brutal, and the Tibetans don't terrorise.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
"No it's not cack. For example, the Chinese occupation of Tibet has gone on for longer and is more brutal. Nobody mentions this. What about Darfur? Muslims killing Muslims there. Nobody mentions this. And yet the Israel VS. Palestinian Arabs debate gets all the attention."
Freddie Mercury
And who would discuss China when talking about Israel/Palestine? No sane person.
You are talking apologist rubbish.
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Then you fully back Lebanon as that is smaller and weaker. Good.
John Chang, Glasgow
Of course. It's Hizbollah I don't back.
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"But when discussing Israel, you are hardly going to mention gang-rape in pakistan are you just to show you are being inclusive!
Your point is ridiculous. Total cack."
John Chang, Glasgow
No it's not cack. For example, the Chinese occupation of Tibet has gone on for longer and is more brutal. Nobody mentions this. What about Darfur? Muslims killing Muslims there. Nobody mentions this. And yet the Israel VS. Palestinian Arabs debate gets all the attention.
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"Hear hear! A nation so small that it can barely be seen on a map is surrounded on all sides by people who want to destroy it while the world does all it can to undermine it. THAT nation will always have my loyalty."
[Stunmai], Shrewsbury, MA, United States
Then you fully back Lebanon as that is smaller and weaker. Good.
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hes got my vote if he tries to expose england for what it really is.
a power hungry has been nation that thinks they are too good to listen to others
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Cheers for the compliment mate. My first act as President would be to brand the left wing as H5N1 infected Turkeys, and deal with them accordingly.
The Elitist
got my vote
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"As for Dave Wakeling & Thanos P - congrats on creating 60 accounts to reccommend your own posts."
The Elitist: So I guess we should say well done for creating 84 accounts (and counting) to recommend your own?!
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Elitist. If I manage to get the Constitution amended, will you please come run for President? Please?
[imperialBlixx]
Cheers for the compliment mate. My first act as President would be to brand the left wing as H5N1 infected Turkeys, and deal with them accordingly.
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As for someone who mentioned Lebanon - My grandfather is Lebanese. I've been to Lebanon,Jordan,UAE,Israel & Syria.
Me > You
As for Dave Wakeling & Thanos P - congrats on creating 60 accounts to recommend your own posts.
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Got to love these neocon idiots - anything that doesn't conform exactly to their warped agenda is by definition "militant leftism".
Steve Butler, Basingstoke, United Kingdom
And yet the solitary news conglomerate in the US that dares to give voice to the right is by definition a mechanism of Zionist-Imperialism... Thanks, but I'll stick to being a neocon idiot. It seems to make more sense.
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"It's perfectly reasonable to debate what people are talking about, but why have you turned this into a personal attack on The Elitist?"
fred mitinkovsky, london: Hello Fred. Or should I say The Elitist. Or is it Sean Richards? Or one of your many other incarnations? Don't think you are fooling anyone with your multiple postings.
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Mmkay, can I just say something real quick? Fox News is the ONE AND ONLY conservative news network amidst the militant leftism of CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, etc. etc. etc. I assure you that American media - while not quite as Marxist - has the same biases that yours has.
Holly Hernkle
Got to love these neocon idiots - anything that doesn't conform exactly to their warped agenda is by definition "militant leftism".
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"Recent poster from the far left."
I'm Dutch and a Liberal Democrat, dearie. Over there, they're centre-right (over here, they seem to be all over the place).
Anyway, what the heck is wrong with being a "leftie" and caring about others, rather than just about oneself? The comments from the right wingers over here make it seem like that's the 8th deadly sin or something.
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"The Elitist: Seems to me that you ought to behave. The virulent pro-Israeli nonsense that you "contribute" to every debate is laughable." - Dave Wakeling
It's perfectly reasonable to debate what people are talking about, but why have you turned this into a personal attack on The Elitist?
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Tomorrow Belongs to Holocaust Deniers!
John Bull, Middle England, United Kingdom
Lets hope for the good of humanity that it doesn't!
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"Strategic" voting is stupid""
Recent poster from the far left.
The left are getting into a flap at the predicted strategic voting that will take place on May 3rd.
Come on, you have had a decade of perfect socialism - isn't that enough for one century?
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"However, it IS anti-Semitic if you're going to single out Israel and ONLY Israel, when there are so many other countries with far far worse human rights, longer and more brutal occupations."
reginald dwight, watford
But when discussing Israel, you are hardly going to mention gang-rape in pakistan are you just to show you are being inclusive!
Your point is ridiculous. Total cack.
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Jews have one tiny country. That tiny country keeps being both verbally and physically attacked. Hmm I wonder...
Sean Richards
because it is surrounded by aggressive Islamic states?
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"Let me tell you something Mr 'free palestine' badge pinned to your proud little chest."
The Elitist: that's the other thing about your messages. They show a certain lack of originality. Like the "Get Facts, Post Message" line which you have used 2 days in a row. Or the "free palestine badge on their proud little chest", which you have also used before. You need some new material.
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The Elitist: There is of course a distinction between criticism of Israel and anti-Semitism.
There is of course no distinction with those that use Israel, in order to attack Jews. It's very easy to hide behind being anti-Israel.
Jews have one tiny country. That tiny country keeps being both verbally and physically attacked. Hmm I wonder...
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"The Elitist: There is of course a distinction between criticism of Israel and anti-Semitism. Zionists try their best to blur that distinction in order to silence and intimidate those who report Israel's crimes." - Thanos P
Of course there is a difference between criticising Israel, and anti-Semitism. However, it IS anti-Semitic if you're going to single out Israel and ONLY Israel, when there are so many other countries with far far worse human rights, longer and more brutal occupations.
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"Let me tell you something ... I'm neither Jewish nor Israeli, but I'll stand by that country against their savage neighbours till I die."
The Elitist
So you are a bit biased. The Lebanese are hardly savage. Funny how they get squashed every time their economy picks up.
Like the amazing exploding UN ambulances! Coincidence? No - it's called targetting. And YOU have the effrontery to support the unsupportable.
More Fascist than Elitist, if you ask me.
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"I think it's because of the extreme wealth of Israel and its inhabitants - and then compares this to the stranglehold they have put on to their neighbours." - John De Haura, Brighton, United Kingdom
But the thing is that Israel is not particularly wealthy - a third of Israelis are on or near the poverty line, and Egypt and Palestine (until Hamas got elected) receives similar amounts of aid from the US as Israel. It really is what you do with the money you get that counts, unfortunately.
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"Just as the French admitted their anti-Israel bias in the media was fuelling anti-semitism, so too should the BBC."
The Elitist: There is of course a distinction between criticism of Israel and anti-Semitism. Zionists try their best to blur that distinction in order to silence and intimidate those who report Israel's crimes. I guess you would prefer the BBC to be like Fox News, right? Dream on mate.
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"Come on guys, you've been told to behave by the BBC Host. Stop acting like you own the place or pay their wages."
The Elitist: Seems to me that you ought to behave. The virulent pro-Israeli nonsense that you "contribute" to every debate is laughable.
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Would expect no more than that from, i'm guessing, a committed communist who is against all personal freedoms and is a supporter of rewriting history to suit their own personal views.
[BigEnglander]
Oh my I just wish you had the intelligence & open mind to re-read what you just wrote there. The rewriting of history by rightwing regimes is well-documented (think Hollywood).So is the burning of books & literature. You haven't got a clue about communism, apart from the hate info fed to you
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Further more, communism needs to be criticised, and exposed for the specious, vicious lie that it is.
A communist state is no better than a Nazi state.
Andrew H, UK
Obviously "proper communism" is egalitarian-communism (look that up) is what John meant. Also, I think he means redistributing wealth and creating more jobs instead of having very wealthy individuals exploiting the masses with poor wages. There is no need nor sense for people to have immense wealth!
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Another day, another HYS forum hijacked by The Elitist (and his various other incarnations) to spout his paranoid, Zionist, Likudist, right wing twaddle, then see his post recommended to the top by multiple account users. Clearly you and your camp want the BBC to be like Fox News and to caricature "them crazy Ayrabs"? Dream on mate.
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Oh dear, another one of His Tonyness's stooges. I suppose its better than putting a halfwit, incompetent director of a plc in charge.
How about that east end barrow boy, Alan Sugar?
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Are you saying that a BBC reporter of many years standing was "biased"?
Righty Rightwing
How naive of you! Nearly all journalists are biased: how do you think they keep their jobs?
Only journalists like Pilger and Fisk are allowed to write in more serious journals that have much smaller circulations; that's because these journals don't pander quite so much to big business.
The status quo is fixed by right leaning big business and politics - Tory, New Labour or Lib Dems.
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Wrong man. Should have been given to Alan Partridge.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Time to lighten the mood...
Frog goes into a bank looking to borrow 30k. Goes up to Patrick Whack's position and asks to borrow the money. Paddy says the bank needs collateral as the frog isn't a customer. Frog replies his name is Kermit Jagger and he knows the manager, but offers a wierd pink elephant anyway. Paddy not sure if this is ok, so asks the maneger. Manager tells him...
It's a nick nack Paddy Whack; give the frog a loan. His old man's a rolling stone.
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"Wouldn't it be great to get Greg Dykes veiw here"
Is that the same bloke who said before he was appointed "the BBC is "hideously white", now i suppose the opposite is true ,but of course i cannot say that now thanks to the PC Dyke.
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So he is in Gordon Brown's pocket then!? I guess we'll never get a HYS on Brown raiding/destroying the British pension system. No doubt all will nicely be smoothed over with spin in time for the blinkered proles to trudge to the ballet box.
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"In absolute terms it's difficult to get rid of bias if you have moderators in any forum.
One man's bias is another's objective thought. I think too many confuse the BBC and the government with the left.
Garth Carthy, Yarm"
True but when you post something in a thread that's more of a generic comment than a left or right wing whinge and it's ignored over comments that should embarass this nation then you have to wonder why they do that.
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Hahahaha, go Beeb. Delete my last post will ya?
Politician into TV management, how is that gonna work?
Well it should help Tony with his "round up the mob" scandals that bbc love so much. I'm guessing Tony will have the Beebs full support. WWIII here we come :'(
P.S. I'll take a job as a moderator since ur staff atm are slow and biased :P
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hopefully he'll have the power to remove the 'reaction to the british sailors' thread from HYS which has been stagnating on here for the last god knows how long.......talk about dragging a story out !
Paul Jackson, Aberdeen
Noted - Funny how Gordon Brwon pension faisco didn't/hasn't achieved as much column inches on this site or in the broadcast news.
Least ITV and Ch4 went to town on it!
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His first duty should be to remove the HYS moderators. Get rid of them completely or replace them with someone with some competence.
William B.
In absolute terms it's difficult to get rid of bias if you have moderators in any forum.
One man's bias is another's objective thought. I think too many confuse the BBC and the government with the left.
New Labour follows Tory policies and so is not left.
As a nation run by big business, our status quo is to the right by default.
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If I were to un-tune BBC1 and BBC2 from my TV set, could I get away with watching only ITV and Channel 4 without paying for a TV lincence?
Any lawyers know if that would stand in court when the TV lincence tries to fine me thousands of pounds??
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I find it laughable that the right wing whingers can accuse the HYS moderators of being biased against them. Every fully moderated board if full of knee jerk, ill informed, 'nail 'em up', Richard Littlejohn fans spouting their rubbish about tax, immigration etc that they've read in the Daily Mail.
The British media is right wing. The BBC isn't - that doesn't instantly make it 'lefty'. It gets complaints for perceived anti-left bias but the right wing press aren't full of that.
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...right wing whingers accuse the HYS moderators of being biased... Every fully moderated board if full of knee jerk, ill informed, 'nail 'em up', Richard Littlejohn fans..
M Bronstein
EXACTLY! Mr B. They moderate out informed 'right' comment. Me and my friends have over 100 years experience in the Cabinet Office, FCO, Home Off, DSS, DTI and Defra and its extremely rare to get specific points based on experience past them. They, and you, are terrified of inconvenient truths.
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As a general rule, forums never make proper money. So no license fee, will see this forum/HYS go down the pan!
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I'm not "massively impressed" by your "expertise" either Mr Bronstein. Neither are many of us influenced by the 'old chestnut' Daily Mail argument. We just happen to live in the real world. Incidently, where are you speaking from?
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EXACTLY! Mr B. They moderate out informed 'right' comment. ...They, and you, are terrified of inconvenient truths.
Lord Wreath
Well, if they moderate out 'informed' right wing comment then they moderate out ANY left comment. It's only the reactively moderated boards that have any kind of genuine dicussion. I'm massively impressed by your and your friends' expertise and experience but I'm not terrified of it, I can assure you.
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What has happened to the comments from 1355 UK?
Bill P, south London
The same thing that just happened to the comments about your comment on the comments from 1355. (????)
I believe the expression is that they have been neutralised by BB. They really don't like it up 'em Mr Mainwaring! Just as things were getting nice and personal!
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ha ha ha so predictable moderators at least you could have left it on for thirty seconds,getting a little touchy are we???????????.Moderators should be out sourced to India,that would be real justice.
ps. whats my ban now then 3 months?
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Jews have one tiny country. That tiny country keeps being both verbally and physically attacked. Hmm I wonder...
Sean Richards
The USA is not a "tiny country", how dare you!!
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Yes, but as any educated person knows, Hitler was a socialist. ..And what was the Nazi Party? Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. That’s the National Socialists.
How very BBC indeed
[BigEnglander]
You talk complete & utter junk. Hitler was an avowed anti-communism nationalist, but with only educated people knowing that one, that's you out of the loop straight away.
Big Englander? Big bigoted, dullard jessie more like. Stop trying to twist facts around, nazi boy
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I doubt he can change any of the bias or the internationally progressive socialist agenda ingrained at the Beeb.
I wonder if he has read Robin Aitkens book: "Can We Trust The BBC?"
Righty Rightwing
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Look, Aitkens is a Tory. He would say that; wouldn't he?
The trouble is that you right-wing belligerent bigots are so to the right of Attila that what you think is left wing is actually centre-ground politics.
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Why is it Grant than anyone to the right of centre has to be called names! Have you no argument? Are you not tolerant of others opinions? Are you a Liberal or not?
Rober Stott
1.The name is Garth, not Grant.
2.I have not called anyone names. I said you are right of Attila and bigoted.
3.My argument was right there under your nose: I repeat: you are under the illusion that the BBC and New Labour are on the left when they are in the centre if not on the right.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Would like to say that we all should celebrate that HYS exists.
Frank Heydenreich, P, France
Yeah - particulalry those who pay nothing for it.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
"It's so gay to think Clarkson is homophobic.
The word 'gay' is evolving, again. Deal with it and stop whinging.
Sean Richards"
It's so TORY to be homophobic.
Gay people exist, so deal with it and stop whingeing.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
“The word 'gay' is evolving, again. Deal with it and stop whinging.”
I’m so old I remember when gay meant happy.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Clarkson is a homophobic idiot.
Why should my licence fee money be wasted on his big salary ?
Billy Idle
It's so gay to think Clarkson is homophobic.
The word 'gay' is evolving, again. Deal with it and stop whinging.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
"Gay people exist, so deal with it and stop whingeing.
Billy Idle"
Yes we do, and neither I, boyfriend or anybody I know find Mr Clarkson's use of the word gay offensive.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
the word homophobic is such a gay expression. A sigmificant number of anti-gay people aren't scared of gay people at all, as the word intends to imply. It does not intend to engage the views of the anti-gay person in constructive debate only to insult them back. It is therefore a bit gay (in a crap, not homosexual or happy sense).
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
'"Gay people exist, so deal with it and stop whingeing.
Billy Idle"
Yes we do, and neither I, boyfriend or anybody I know find Mr Clarkson's use of the word gay offensive.'
[Vulpus_rex], London, United Kingdom
Agreed - but it is considered inappropriate. That's why Chris Moyles got the word 'moyles' entered into the spoken vernacular as a new word meaning 'poo'.
Seen that dog moyles on the street? It's disgusting.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
"At the risk of upsetting a certain Mr Guthrie,
I'd agree with you - as long as its on the basis of what's between her ears - which rules out most of Blair's Babes."
william shears, London
But MPs do not head the BBC - never have & almost certainly never will!
What's the point of this comment - a mysogynist swipe or misunderstood politics?
Martin R,
Clearly, in yr narrow-minded ignorance you don't think the term Blair's Babes covers his appointed "Ladies" in another place.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Continued... So basically an unintentional bias relating to the fact the USA backed Israeli terror attacks on Palestinian civilians have better firepower than the Palestinian terror attacks on Israeli civilians.
Of course the conflict could stop if Israel would withdraw to the 67 borders but thats another matter.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
"Yes, but the whole reason the occupation began was because the Arabs tried to attack Israel in 1967 yet couldn't defend their own land."
reginald dwight, watford
ALERT! BAD ARMCHAIR HISTORY WARNING.
This issue began in 1948, Elton, or maybe before that. Please don't bore us with cretinous potted histories from either side.
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
Is my computer playing up, have we all gone a bit off topic, or is this a dumping ground for any argument?
Is Sir Michael Lyons right for top BBC job?
A far more relevant question - is Paul Dacre right for the job of Daily Mail editor ?
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