How important is broadband to the UK?

686 published comments with 126 censored.

Time is running out to make UK networks ready for the next generation of internet broadband, says an industry report.

If telecoms firms aren’t encouraged to upgrade in the next two years then the country could suffer serious social and economic setbacks.

The Broadband Stakeholder Group says that networks may have to handle speeds of 200Mbps, but that investment in new hardware is lagging behind.

Do we really need super-fast broadband? Is important to keep up with internet speeds in other countries? How can telecoms firms be encouraged to upgrade?

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Written by Dan Dover on Mon Apr 16 11:26:38 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"200Mbps broadband!? Do we really need that speed?"
Simon Ward, Watford, United Kingdom

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"Yes. HD porn files are HUGE."

The Elitist

Otherwise I wouldn't be all in shot.

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Written by Phosgene Gasse on Mon Apr 16 12:56:43 UTC 2007. 1 recommendations.

"Wakey wakey LiberalLeft And Proud.This leftie Labour mob has abused the democracy that allowed it in and is now a dictatorship."
[Wellin69], Kintbury, United Kingdom

If you really believe this, you are in dire need of a mental health referral.

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Written by [Wellin69], Kintbury, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 12:55:39 UTC 2007. 1 recommendations.

Immigration top issue? Really? Not for everyone How is this government a dictatorship? It is democratically elected and faces opposition in the HOC and HOL and has been defeated on several issues.

LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom

Wakey wakey LiberalLeft And Proud.This leftie Labour mob has abused the democracy that allowed it in and is now a dictatorship.Immigration is a major issue,which will lead to anarchy in the UK in the near future.We can't even keep British tax payers healthy.

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Written by Stephen Cooper, Letchworth, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 14:24:43 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I don't know how this HYS got onto the topic of non-representative government from this starting point. But I would point out that there is an alternative, which would gurantee that any government was preferred by a larger proportion of voters, witout their having to be a coallition.

AV would seem to be a better sollution as at least you gurantee that the MP elected has the support of at least 50% of the electorate in their constiituancy.

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Written by Capt Dave the Hat l on Mon Apr 16 13:20:18 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Wakey wakey LiberalLeft And Proud.This leftie Labour mob has abused the democracy that allowed it in and is now a dictatorship."
[Wellin69], Kintbury, United Kingdom

"If you really believe this, you are in dire need of a mental health referral.
Phosgene Gasse"

Well book me into the same mental hospital, we live in a politcally correct dictatorship these days

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Written by [Thingisthis], Newcastle, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 13:15:39 UTC 2007. 1 recommendations.

Hi Bob

Just a quick note to let you know that AT LAST I seem to have got the hang of this email thing and my broadband connection seems to be working fine as well.

Thanks for popping around yesterday and setting it up for me - I owe you a Pint!

Would you let Jean know that I couldn't get the emusion in exactly the colour she wanted in B&Q yesterday, but I got to testers, both of which are very similar.

Thanks again for getting me onto email - I have loads of people to contact!!!

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Written by Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin, Vostok 1 on Mon Apr 16 15:23:09 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Yes. HD porn files are HUGE."
The Elitist

(Which just raced up 15 votes in 3 minutes contrary to all the comments around it.)

Mr. Elitist, you seem determined to self-publicise the fact that you spend a lot of time with your nose pressed against the screen and your trousers round you ankles.

I hope you cleaned your keyboard before typing your message.

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Written by Nathaniel Spoonbucket on Mon Apr 16 15:58:32 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Which one of you slimey leftist weasels reported my post? Small minded worthless cretins." The Elitist

Topsy my old bean, what may seem like a sad loss to you is, in fact, nothing at all to us. He who lives by snitching to teacher, dies by snitching to teacher. I applaud whom-so-ever it was. (OMG I've got Sharr's syndrome!)

Besides, I doubt we lost the pithiest epithet in the history of English.

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Written by The Elitist on Mon Apr 16 15:58:00 UTC 2007. 1 recommendations.

I think he is Harry Flashman or Mr Sharr or that other Right Whinger....

leftwing lefty, United Kingdom
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Listen, you miserable leftist loon - don't scuttle around here spreading rumours about me.

I'm neither of these other people you've mentioned.

My posts get to the top because people like what I say. Deal with it, cretin.

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Written by Robert Sharr, London, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 15:55:26 UTC 2007. 2 recommendations.

It's strange how 'The Elitist' comment and 'Topsy Turvy' comment both turbo-ed up the recommended chart 20 votes each, at the same time and pace. Are they in any chance related?

I wonder who they belong too?

Ranting Armchair Know-it-all, UK

I think he is Harry Flashman or Mr Sharr or that other Right Whinger....

leftwing lefty,

Tell you what chaps, as fascinating as all this is, why not save yourselves some time & precious posts and just tell me who I'm not - just so I know.

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Written by The Elitist on Mon Apr 16 15:52:01 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Which one of you slimey leftist weasels reported my post?

Small minded worthless cretins.

Whoever it was, you fail at life.

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Written by Nathaniel Spoonbucket on Mon Apr 16 15:51:48 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

May the 4th be with you

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Written by Stephen J Brown, Down South, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 15:51:48 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

When will Blair go? He is far too much of a right Whinger for me.

leftwing lefty, United Kingdom

Blair a right Whinger? Nah.. Namby pamby lefty ;o)

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Written by [Vulpus_rex], London, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 15:49:51 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"When will Blair go? He is far too much of a right Whinger for me.
leftwing lefty, United Kingdom"

May the 4th is my guess, by most accounts he's in for real drubbing.

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Written by leftwing lefty, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 15:48:54 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

It's strange how 'The Elitist' comment and 'Topsy Turvy' comment both turbo-ed up the recommended chart 20 votes each, at the same time and pace. Are they in any chance related?

I wonder who they belong too?

Ranting Armchair Know-it-all, UK

I think he is Harry Flashman or Mr Sharr or that other Right Whinger....

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Written by leftwing lefty, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 15:48:04 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

When will Blair go? He is far too much of a right Whinger for me.

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Written by Ranting Armchair Know-it-all, UK on Mon Apr 16 15:47:04 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

It's strange how 'The Elitist' comment and 'Topsy Turvy' comment both turbo-ed up the recommended chart 20 votes each, at the same time and pace. Are they in any chance related?

I wonder who they belong too?

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Written by toby coulson, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 15:40:41 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Never mind Bob. You'll get over that Suez crisis eventually."
Dan Winter

I wish we had some gunboats left to sort that problem out, but I suspect they've been nicked by some naughty Iranians :-)

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Written by Dan Winter on Mon Apr 16 15:36:58 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Daniel dear boy - I'm afraid that makes you slightly more obsessed with the subject of immigration that those you decry.

In case you hadn't noticed there's a HYS currently running on mental health issues - perhaps you'd be happier there.

Robert Sharr, London, United Kingdom

Never mind Bob. You'll get over that Suez crisis eventually.

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Written by Robert Sharr, London, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 15:33:23 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Close our borders! Save our Broadband!

Sorry, but I noted that this thread is refreshingly free of Daily Mail-reading single digit IQ sour little Englanders and their anti-immigration diatribes. And we can't have that now can we?

Dan Winter"

Daniel dear boy - I'm afraid that makes you slightly more obsessed with the subject of immigration that those you decry.

In case you hadn't noticed there's a HYS currently running on mental health issues - perhaps you'd be happier there.

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Written by Steve Butler, Basingstoke, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 17:48:27 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

It's just another step towards third-world Britain. Thank you Labour.

Blooregard Q Kazoo, London, United Kingdom

Look on the bright side...at least we don't have suicidal nutters shooting up schools or colleges every few months like they do in the wonderful USA.

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Written by Dominic Holroyd on Mon Apr 16 16:34:52 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

How important is broadband?

NOT as important as immigration.
NOT as important as our schools and education.
NOT as important as our health service.
NOT as important as the fact that we are being ruled by what is effectively a dictatorship.

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Written by The Elitist on Mon Apr 16 17:26:40 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The sad thing is you're probably serious. Perhaps you should change your name to The Underclass?
LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom

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I didn't think your tribe believed in class systems?

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Written by Robert Sharr, London, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 18:19:58 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Just back from the pub (strictly halfs of shandy - at least that's what I tell my Doctor). Before the Mods close this down can we all agree on one thing.

Whatever our leanings (be it Lefty, Righty, Harry, Philby, or even the impressionable Martin R) do we concur that there is nothing more despicable (or is it dispicable?) than "alerting" the mods to get other people's opinions (however odious) supressed? Unless one is a foreigner, of course, most of whom know no better.

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Written by Shehu Hamdullahi, Kaduna, Nigeria on Mon Apr 16 18:35:15 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

NIGERIA, WHAT A WONDERFUL DEMOCRACY WHERE MINORITIES CARRY THE VOTES,OBASANJO YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE IS A SERIOUS UNEMPLOYMENT, POWER FAILURE,DEVALUATION,HUNGER,INFLATION INNOCENTS PEOPLE ARE DIEYING EVERYDAY. PLEASE WE NEED A CHANGE.

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Written by Ranting Armchair Know-it-all, UK on Mon Apr 16 19:25:16 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"To all Americans: Please let the record show that most English people are actually quite generous of spirit." knightdefender, UK

Horsemanure! The whole of Europe (that's the BIT where the Queen of England and Bullfighting comes from) is 100% red hot angry that ANYBODY could have been so unbelievable Dumb with a capital Duh to have voted to for Bozo The Clown TWICE!

TWICE!!!!!

Even my dog was saying 'anyone but Bush, anyone but Bush' for months before the election.

TWICE!!!

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Written by [20-20-Hindsight], Sussex, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 20:00:41 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Oh dear, Dean of Raleigh, you ought to get out more.

I do admit, in 1981 I had an IBM pc on my desk but that was preceded by an English one! And may I gently point out that it was an Englishman who "invented" the World Wide Web? Before that there was a sort of internet - an international network of telegraph lines. We dialled into external computers - by arrangement - and exchanged information. Uni's, Nasa, European Space Agency, banks - a small pond it was, but an international one!

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Written by Had Enough on Mon Apr 16 19:53:59 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Dean Martin, my computer may be an american brand but it was designed by an Brit and made in China, so your lot really didn't have much do with it. The computer was invented by an Brit. The fastest processors that are made were designed by Brits for a company owned by americans. It weird how you lot can't do anything yourselves you just import the skills and talent and call it your own. Rockets (moon programme) - Nazi German weapons scientists. Need I say more. Sad!

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Written by [Emulated], Bournemouth, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 20:09:24 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

If ignorance is bliss, why aren't Americans happy?
Horatio Enoch Zachariah Merriw..., 22c Baker Street, Camden

Not a good day for America bashing with the Virginia shootings and we all understand how tragic it must be. Time for a change in gun policy perhaps.

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Written by The Elitist on Mon Apr 16 17:16:48 UTC 2007. 1 recommendations.

Problem is, the immigrants came in and stole our bandwidth.

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Written by Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin, Vostok 1 on Mon Apr 16 20:24:32 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Not a good day for America bashing with the Virginia shootings and we all understand how tragic it must be. Time for a change in gun policy perhaps." Emulated,UK

Sorry, but it's hard to feel sorry for a nation that insists its public can buy truck loads of weapons, and then acts all surprised when some nut let loose with it.

It's no good being shocked and weepy each time. This is bound to keep on happening. To be upset is almost hypocritical.

Guns kill people, why act surprised?

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Written by Evan Alaph, Lower Soggybottom, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 18:04:58 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Harry you're such a run-to-teacher tell-tale. You sling dirt like a toddler on it's potty then pout and sulk when people sling it back?

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Written by LeftLiberal AndProud on Mon Apr 16 17:30:22 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I didn't think your tribe believed in class systems?

The Elitist

Well, we'd like to see them whither away, but while they are still in effect, I think the name is more apt than your current one. After all, the views you espouse tend to be held by those living on sink estates, who project their self-loathing at everyone else.

Toodle pip,as BillyBob would probably say.

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Written by Dan Winter on Mon Apr 16 20:16:51 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"The Internet and WWW are two entirely different creations, try to get your facts straight... mate?

Dean Martin, raleigh, United States"

The Internet as we currently understand it – as a medium for mass communication and information exchange – was devised in 1989 by the British inventor Tim Berners Lee with the creation of the World Wide Web. You couldn’t access any information on the Internet without the WWW, and there you reveal your utter ignorance beyond question.

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Written by [lanky_doodle] on Mon Apr 16 18:28:09 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

everyone should be entitled to healthcare of a high standard, otherwise you are putting prices on lives.

[Trompe_Le_Monde

And everyone should be entitled to food, cars and housing of the same high quality, otherwise you are putting prices on lives.

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Written by LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 17:22:37 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Problem is, the immigrants came in and stole our bandwidth.

The Elitist

The sad thing is you're probably serious. Perhaps you should change your name to The Underclass?

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Written by Martje Ross on Mon Apr 16 18:30:33 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Unless one is a foreigner, of course, most of whom know no better."

You'd have probably been recommended, if it hadn't been for this teeny little sentence ...

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Written by [Trompe_Le_Monde] on Mon Apr 16 18:28:33 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"We went to the Moon. We did it in the 60s. Hush.
[imperialBlixx], Storrs, United States"

We put free healthcare for all above faster internet or sending rockets to the moon. We have a voting system where it is not possible for the party who received the highest amount of votes to not end up in power and high quality research into medicine and science.

I'm not anti-American, but I can see that what we have is more important than the moon or even faster broadband. It makes perfect sense.

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Written by Dan Winter on Mon Apr 16 19:13:09 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"NIGERIA, WHAT A WONDERFUL DEMOCRACY WHERE MINORITIES CARRY THE VOTES,OBASANJO YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE IS A SERIOUS UNEMPLOYMENT, POWER FAILURE,DEVALUATION,HUNGER,INFLATION INNOCENTS PEOPLE ARE DIEYING EVERYDAY. PLEASE WE NEED A CHANGE.

Shehu Hamdullahi, Kaduna, Nigeria"

So please email your bank details to the following address.

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Written by Dean Martin, raleigh, United States on Mon Apr 16 19:30:05 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"The world you dominate is so diverse and creative and old. It is capable of teaching you so much, but instead you swamp it with fast food, violent films, mindless rap, the baseball cap, GIs, non-culture etc. etc. And vote for a man who thinks Darwin was wrong!

Which part of 'so screwed up' don't you unsderstand.

Ranting Armchair Know-it-all, UK "

Tell me, which companies made your operating system and your processor?

Then tell us where those companies are from.

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Written by LeftLiberal AndProud on Mon Apr 16 17:33:00 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Why is it Lefties (who lyingly claim to be egaltarian,) are the biggest snobs and class obsessed? Constantly sneering at their inferiors, i.e. everybody.

[Harry-Flashman]

Nope, have a read of the righty posts, always screaming about dole queue chavs. Equality of opportunity is a leftwing not a rightwing idea. I am egalitarian, I would educate the great unwashed to give them the equality of opportunity, you would moan about paying the tax required.

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Written by [Harry-Flashman] on Mon Apr 16 17:29:25 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Billybob, that's your not you. Still, you're doing smashingly well for a chap without a degree. What ho!

LiberalLeft AndProud,

Not too patronising then!

Why is it Lefties (who lyingly claim to be egaltarian,) are the biggest snobs and class obsessed? Constantly sneering at their inferiors, i.e. everybody.

Right wingers on the other hand, who are supposed to be the bigots, are the ones who encourage equailty of opportunity.

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Written by Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin, Vostok 1 on Mon Apr 16 18:26:30 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Unless one is a foreigner, of course, most of whom know no better.

Robert Sharr, London, United Kingdom

I quite agree. Why should foriegners know or comply with the pink, fluffy 'play the game, chaps' psuedo-public school sense of fair play tosh that doesn't exist except in Wodehouse and nostalgia.

But you are right... pulling a chap's post is the sort of rotten bally stunt that only a chap whose nanny was colonial could pull. What?

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Written by Dean Martin, raleigh, United States on Mon Apr 16 18:20:18 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"The NHS is flawed.

Why does someone who screwed around with their life and ends up with a McJob deserve the same healthcare as the person who has studied hard and is paying the top tax bracket?"
Lewis Hoggard

You're right, it is a broken concept.

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Written by Lewis Hoggard, Windsor, United States on Mon Apr 16 18:17:09 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The NHS is flawed.

Why does someone who screwed around with their life and ends up with a McJob deserve the same healthcare as the person who has studied hard and is paying the top tax bracket?

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Written by Lewis Hoggard, Windsor, United States on Mon Apr 16 18:27:42 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"What an entirely stupid concept. Seriously one of the most ridiculous statements made here - everyone should be entitled to healthcare of a high standard, otherwise you are putting prices on lives."
[Trompe_Le_Monde]

No, they put their own price on their own lives when they screwed around at school.

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Written by [grahamew], Sheffield, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 19:36:27 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Sorry - but what has the bile trading as debate about "the good ol US of A" versus "The US are evil" got to so with this debate?

Moderators - please moderate!

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Written by urban Gorrilla, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 19:57:39 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I hate it when family squabble...it's bad enough when we are arguing with the rest of the world

Lets stick to topic people

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Written by Dan Winter on Tue Apr 17 16:58:47 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

For all your attempted prestige, you've failed hard and resorted to name calling.

Dean Martin, raleigh, United States

Or simply treating your tiresome jingoistic drivel with the contempt it deserves.

I like the style. It's pithy and yet degenerate at the same time.

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Written by The Truth, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 16:58:36 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"F u c k off, you stupid c u n t.

Dan Winter "

Ouch mate, you got out-smartted and turn to that.

Ban stick, BBC?

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Written by Dean Martin, raleigh, United States on Tue Apr 17 16:54:08 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"F u c k off, you stupid c u n t."
Dan Winter

Not the stupid one, you've proved that to everyone.

For all your attempted prestige, you've failed hard and resorted to name calling.

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Written by Dan Winter on Tue Apr 17 16:50:17 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The WWW – a hyper-text medium for *public* use, not just a computer link between governmental, academic and commercial agencies – was devised in 1989 by Tim Berners Lee, the first website proper published in 1991 and the WWW Consortium founded in 1994.
Dan Winter

Correct for the most part, but not what you stated last night and far from the only public application available. You've heard of email right?

Dean Martin, raleigh, United States

F u c k off, you stupid c u n t.

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Written by Slog Onwards, merseyside, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 17:04:36 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I re-wired a light switch all by myself this morning - how great is that!

[markj8], Chester, United Kingdom

Do you now realise that under new government rules, that you will have to get a “certified” inspector to check that the job has been done properly, cost circa £150, and sign the work off. Otherwise it could affect any insurance claim in the future, even if not related to the light switch.

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Written by [lanky_doodle] on Mon Apr 16 18:31:38 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

We put free healthcare for all above faster internet or sending rockets to the moon. We have a voting system where it is not possible for the party who received the highest amount of votes to not end up in power

Trompe Le Monde

Actually, the NHS has been charging since 1951 for prescriptions/dentists. And a party can get the smaller share of the vote and win in the UK- the Tories did it in 1951, Labour did it in 1974. There is no reason why the same couldn't happen again sometime.

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Written by Robert Sharr, London, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 18:35:38 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"... Please teach me how to be an Englishman.

[imperialBlixx], Storrs, United States"

My dear chap - would that I could - I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. Sadly, I'm afraid one is either born an Englishman (thereby winning the great lottery of life) or one is not.

But don't fret unduly, even on this ungratefully anti-American site, I always maintain that you Yanks are damned fine chaps at heart.

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Written by Dean Martin, raleigh, United States on Mon Apr 16 18:33:31 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"I'm not anti-American, but I can see that what we have is more important than the moon or even faster broadband. It makes perfect sense."
[Trompe_Le_Monde]

I assume you're French and what you have is two weeks of riots in Paris because no one can find a job, but at least they will have healthcare that they didn't pay for if they hurt each other in those riots.

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Written by Dan Winter on Mon Apr 16 19:53:02 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Were there no Americans you wouldnt have the Internet to talk trash on.

Dean Martin, raleigh, United States"

The World Wide Web was invented by a British man called Tim Berners Lee - you jingoistic nitwit.

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Written by Didier Aubry, Clichy, France on Mon Apr 16 20:25:48 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Yet you're using it to indict all Americans. Typical. But as you're just another knee-jerk anti-US Eurowhiner, that's a distinction we can't possibly expect you to make
Ann Curtin, Annapolis,Maryland, United States

I quite agree, and am fed up with the Europeans' USA bashing when there are far worse countries in the world !! I think it can only be put down to jealousy on the Europeans' part that they know that USA is economically more successful and better place to live but won't admit it.

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Written by Stephen J Brown, Down South, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 11:03:22 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

What's the betting LeftLiberal AndProud can't help but mention the Daily Mail before the end of the day.

Place your bets....... ;o)

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Written by [Super-Shawty] on Tue Apr 17 11:01:27 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I am egalitarian,
LeftLiberal AndProud

No – you are stupid

Now Shush!!

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Written by LeftLiberal AndProud on Tue Apr 17 12:20:00 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I bet when you talk you sound like you are holding your nose - Sigh!....stuck up idiots!

When will you realise that the way you talk merely makes people laugh at you more (is that poss)
[Super-Shawty]

DAILY MAIL. Actually estuary english, cos I'm from a working class family, not stuck up just hate the rightwing ranters. Guess what, I don't have a degree either! Oh Stephen, the answer is 2 which is about 10 less than Haroldtre.

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Written by [harold-flashman] on Tue Apr 17 12:17:51 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Grammar Schools penalise background
LiberalLeft AndProud,

Really - My dad the son of a shop assistant and a chippy. My mother’s father was a house painter.
Both families were dirt poor. Background ? ? What background

Both my parents went to grammar schools and became teachers. No penalty there, no privilege, just the reward for ability and hard work.

You have the sneer of a public school type. As I said, you know nothing.

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Written by [Super-Shawty] on Tue Apr 17 12:15:52 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The eloquence of your rebuttal has stunned me into silence. I will go and post no more. Of course the fact that I was playing along with Billybob's ongoing degree phobia has clearly soared above your liitle pointy head but I'm sure you feel your vitriol is justified.

LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom

I bet when you talk you sound like you are holding your nose - Sigh!....stuck up idiots!

When will you realise that the way you talk merely makes people laugh at you more (is that poss)

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Written by This comment is fully endorsed by, the BBC, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 12:15:04 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I will go and post no more. Of course the fact that I was playing along with Billybob's ongoing degree phobia has clearly soared above your liitle pointy head but I'm sure you feel your vitriol is justified.

LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom

Who cares..the important thing is your not going to post anymore,

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Written by LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 12:08:21 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

You know nothing. Equality of result is a Left Wing idea. Equality of opportunity, where some fail, is a Right Wing concept.

That is why the Left hate Grammar schools with a passion, because some fail.
That is why the Right love them, because those who deserve to, succeed.

[Harry-Flashman]

Grammar Schools penalise background hence NOT EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY, the right loves privilege not real equality of opportunity which would mean equal access to education for all.

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Written by [Harry-Flashman] on Tue Apr 17 12:05:30 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

What's the betting LeftLiberal AndProud can't help but mention the Daily Mail before the end of the day.

Place your bets....... ;o)
Stephen J Brown,


That’s a certainty.
He must sell it on commission, he mentions it so much.

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Written by LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 14:16:42 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Both my parents went to grammar schools and became teachers. No penalty there, no privilege, just the reward for ability and hard work.

You have the sneer of a public school type. As I said, you know nothing.

[harold-flashman]

Nope, local catholic school, mother from poor immigrant irish family, father the so of a soldier. Your parents were lucky, maybe their parents knew the value of a good education, many don't. Separating kids at age 11 was a system which doomed many.

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Written by LeftLiberal AndProud on Tue Apr 17 15:13:25 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

There was nothing they could do for kids who were just too thick.
They were much better off down the Sec Mod or Tech High school, learning to do something useful.
The 11 plus sorted the talented from the lazy and the dumb.

Speaking of which, I wrote this half an hour ago, waiting for your post. You really are too predictable.

[Harry-Flashman]

Tedious man, many kids can achieve brilliance after the age of 11 and with the right guidance. The old system denied them that chance.

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Written by Horatio Enoch Zachariah Merriwether, 22c Baker Street, Camden on Mon Apr 16 20:01:40 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

If ignorance is bliss, why aren't Americans happy?

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Written by This comment is fully endorsed by, the BBC, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 12:18:46 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The WWW – a hyper-text medium for *public* use, not just a computer link between governmental, academic and commercial agencies – was devised in 1989 by Tim Berners Lee, the first website proper published in 1991 and the WWW Consortium founded in 1994.

I like tennis.

Dan Winter

I used to work for IBM, but I left because it was full of peope that knew this kind of stuff, though most played 5-a-side football.

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Written by LeftLiberal AndProud on Tue Apr 17 12:14:31 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

What's the betting LeftLiberal AndProud can't help but mention the Daily Mail before the end of the day.

Place your bets....... ;o)
Stephen J Brown,


That’s a certainty.
He must sell it on commission, he mentions it so much.

[Harry-Flashman]

DAILY MAIL DAILY MAIL DAILY MAIL. I feel better already. The Mail gets mentioned a lot because it is emblematic of a particular insular greedy selfish mindset. But if you did a search I bet it doesnt get mentioned as much as immigration does

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Written by Dan Winter on Tue Apr 17 12:14:01 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The truth is that here in the UK we work longer hours than the rest of Europe and pay more for less, and that includes Broadband.

That's why there's a net deficit as far as immigration/emigration is concerned - we need talent from overseas because all our home-grown talent is leaving the UK in search of a better life.

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Written by LiberalLeft AndProud, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 12:11:56 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

I am egalitarian,
LeftLiberal AndProud

No – you are stupid

Now Shush!!

[Super-Shawty]

The eloquence of your rebuttal has stunned me into silence. I will go and post no more. Of course the fact that I was playing along with Billybob's ongoing degree phobia has clearly soared above your liitle pointy head but I'm sure you feel your vitriol is justified.

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Written by Dan Winter on Tue Apr 17 12:09:33 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Do you think people just set up these networks from the 1960s onwards and then did not share any information...? Telnet and usenet have been around far longer than the WWW. Again try to get your facts straight."

The WWW – a hyper-text medium for *public* use, not just a computer link between governmental, academic and commercial agencies – was devised in 1989 by Tim Berners Lee, the first website proper published in 1991 and the WWW Consortium founded in 1994.

I like tennis.

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Written by Erwin Schrodinger, Hampshire on Tue Apr 17 12:52:15 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Googling or Wikipediaing a question is not, repeat not, research. Robert Sharr"

Of course, that's true. However, Wikipedia is a considerably more authoritative source than planet HYS where people post, and many recommend, dubious, exaggerated or factually wrong material. A little googling or wikipediaing may at least give them pause for thought before putting (or recommending) unverified assertions on everything from tax, climate change, immigration, etc that are plain wrong or in dispute.

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Written by The Grumpy Old Man on Tue Apr 17 13:30:02 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

..TCP/IP-wide area network was operational by January 1, 1983, when the United States' National Science Foundation (NSF) constructed a university network backbone that would later become the NSFNet

Dean ol' boy, if it wasn't for the internet and www TCP/IP would've never needed to exist. I see you don't mention anything about its forerunner's ARPANET & PARC.

Incidentally, Dean, TCP/IP was a joint project between BBN Technologies, Stanford University, and the University College London!

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Written by This comment is fully endorsed by, the BBC, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 13:52:50 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Why is it that if you have 55 people who want to play football they organise a tournament for 11 5-a-side teams.....surely 5 teams of 11 would be easier or even do what we did at school - 2 teams of 27 and the fat blind guy can be ref.

You know lets go the whole hog...2 teams etc but ona five asisde pitch....nah, squash court....table tennis table...pool table?

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Written by The Grumpy Old Man on Tue Apr 17 13:39:06 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Dean, I expect that you're now going to tell us that MicroSoft were responsible for the 'Windows Platform'? 'Fraid not, and sorry to disappoint but it was Xerox, Apple enhanced it a little but Williams Gates esq was able to succesfully marketed it.

I still think MS WIndow's is not and nowhere near a patch on the Apple Platform... Apple is more user friendlier and you don't get that supercilious blinkin' paper-clip appearing!

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Written by Joe Hughes, Derry, Ireland on Tue Apr 17 16:40:21 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

how about we stop talking about broadband and start talking about the REAL problems in this world.

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Written by Nathaniel Spoonbucket on Tue Apr 17 17:30:32 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Googling is pseudo-research.
Goggling is slack-jawed stupor.
Boggling is mental wheel-spin.
Ogling is peotry in motion.

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Written by [socket939], not 775, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 17:20:01 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

what is this, a HYS or a history lesson

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Written by The Grumpy Old Man on Tue Apr 17 18:58:42 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

How important is broadband to the UK?

Not as good as an interesting book. There again, Dean would probably say that the American's developed the first printing press and gun-powder, too!

Is there anything that America didn't invent? Answer's on a postcard to Dean

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Written by The Elitist on Mon Apr 16 11:16:49 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

200Mbps broadband!? Do we really need that speed?
Simon Ward, Watford, United Kingdom

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Yes. HD porn files are HUGE.

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Written by Topsy Turvy, England, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 12:04:19 UTC 2007. 1 recommendations.

How important is broadband?

NOT as important as immigration.
NOT as important as our schools and education.
NOT as important as our health service.
NOT as important as the fact that we are being ruled by what is effectively a dictatorship.

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Written by [Janedarc], London, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 12:14:42 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The best service is supplied by Demon, who also give a web space and their service is also cheap compared to BT who are very overpriced. Sky and other secondary service providers give a very restricted service though it works.

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Written by Theresa Greene, Reading, Berks. on Mon Apr 16 13:04:59 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"I don't like eggs"
[subjectishatless]

What is a "shatless"?

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Written by The Devil's Advocate on Mon Apr 16 13:01:52 UTC 2007. 1 recommendations.

"NOT as important as the fact that we are being ruled by what is effectively a dictatorship." Topsy Turvy, UK

It's ironic your asinine diatribe against the authorities is on a public-funded braodcaster's website. We do NOT live in a dictatorship and to say so is to belittle those do. If the UK were a D. then the secret police would probably torture/kill you for that comment. Get a sense of proportion!

Will you vote at the next free and fair UK paliamentary election, TT?

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Written by John Chang, Glasgow on Mon Apr 16 13:12:57 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

'What is a "shatless"?'
Theresa Greene, Reading, Berks.

The condition of not having any William Shatner CDs in your house.

And they are corkers!

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Written by Nathaniel Spoonbucket on Mon Apr 16 13:12:00 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

What is a "shatless"?
Theresa Greene, Reading, Berks.

Past tense constipatory verb?
[Thingisthis], Newcastle, United Kingdom

Noun, maybe?

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Written by [Thingisthis], Newcastle, United Kingdom on Mon Apr 16 13:08:25 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

What is a "shatless"?

Theresa Greene, Reading, Berks.

Past tense constipatory verb?

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Written by Capt Dave the Hat l on Mon Apr 16 13:22:45 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Look, we all vote(or not, as we have a choice)and whichever party gets the most seats runs the country for 5 years. That's how it works. Sorry if they don't consult you over every issue, but I think that's probably for the best due to your reactionary and contradictory opinions, don't you?
You are, of course, free to stand for election yourself in this democracy.
We await your manifesto with bated breath..
Papa Demos, Bristol "

BUT 70% OF US DIDN'T VOTE FOR THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Written by Anthony Wisener, belfast, Ireland on Wed Apr 18 10:27:20 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Webhead geeks, never get no sex. Ha ha! Virgins the lot of you.

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Written by Anthony Wisener, belfast, Ireland on Wed Apr 18 10:26:27 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

this is such a boring topic, who care's? I'm not bothered. You big bores!!

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Written by The Truth, United Kingdom on Tue Apr 17 18:28:07 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Britain's taxes are too high.

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Written by Cordelia Mandible on Wed Apr 18 09:50:44 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The only drivel I've seen is your illconceived logic and plain wrong statements about life, technology and just about everything else.Dean Martin, raleigh, United States

An obnoxious American & a sad reflection of that country's lamentable domestic & foreign policies. The previous poster was quite right - the WWW, the medium by which most use the Internet today - is down to British talent & invention. If you're so convinced of American superiority, why are you posting on a British site?

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Written by Joe Hughes, Derry, Ireland on Wed Apr 18 15:59:35 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

How dare you! The furher hated lefties! He murdered them! He worked with big corporations! He beleived in god! He was a racist! How dare you castigate him as a lefty! Tomorrow belongs to fascism!

John Bull, Middle England, United Kingdom

better fascism than english rule i always say!

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Written by [Its_an_Outrage], Northern England on Wed Apr 18 15:27:59 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

"Perhaps your time could have better been spent learning how to correctly use the apostrophe?
[news_meister], Staffs, United Kingdom "

I note with sadness that you have not learned how to correctly avoid the split infinitive, Mr smartypants news_meister.

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Written by LeftLiberal AndProud on Wed Apr 18 14:46:28 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Hey yo fu-ck this PC bullsh-it. I'm a gonna fu-ck your wimpy pc arguements about pc and apple mac's up. Who wants at fight? I'm a gonna knock yoyu on your computer loving geek a-ss muthafu-ckers. Don't stop me boi I'll hurt you too.

Anthony Wisener, belfast, Ireland

have you been at the Jack and Coke again, George Dubya? or indeed, sniff, just the coke? I think you have more important problems to deal with at home.

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Written by Anthony Wisener, belfast, Ireland on Wed Apr 18 14:44:49 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Hey yo fu-ck this PC bullsh-it. I'm a gonna fu-ck your wimpy pc arguements about pc and apple mac's up. Who wants at fight? I'm a gonna knock yoyu on your computer loving geek a-ss muthafu-ckers. Don't stop me boi I'll hurt you too.

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Written by Evan Alaph, Lower Soggybottom, United Kingdom on Thu Apr 19 08:11:13 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

OMG! Seen today's thread?

"Should police use affirmative action"?

H. Flashman is F***ing in heaven.
F***ing in heaven.
F***ing in heaven
in heaven
in heaven
H. Flashman is F***ing in heaven.
etc

Stand by for an orgasmic rant that will register on the richter scale.

"Brussels made Camberwick Green Constabulary fire ALL their white male policeman and employ Haitian witch-doctors instead."

I don't that little festival of virulent sub-text racism will be a green flag event!

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Written by Emanuel-Charles Spiteri on Wed Apr 18 11:36:20 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

this is such a boring topic, who care's? I'm not bothered. You big bores!!

Anthony Wisener, belfast, Ireland


Then why the hell did you read it or respond?
If you cannot be bothered is it because you cannot switch the light in your toilet?

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Written by John Bull, Middle England, United Kingdom on Wed Apr 18 12:22:41 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

SILENCE! the other reactively monitored debate has gone fully mod! This debate will now be comandeered for ranting about tax and immigration! The Stalinist BBC will not silence us! Brave patriots like Harry Flashman must be heard! Before we are swamped by an alien tide! Tomorrow belongs to endless repetition!

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Written by John Bull, Middle England, United Kingdom on Wed Apr 18 15:06:19 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Hilter was a leftie.

Evan Alaph, Lower Soggybottom, United Kingdom

How dare you! The furher hated lefties! He murdered them! He worked with big corporations! He beleived in god! He was a racist! How dare you castigate him as a lefty! Tomorrow belongs to fascism!

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Written by His Holiness The Pap on Wed Apr 18 15:23:07 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Uh-oh, it's the tax-man.
Hide the booze! Open a window!

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Written by Anthony Wisener, belfast, Ireland on Wed Apr 18 12:11:44 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Computer geeks suck

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Written by LeftLiberal AndProud on Wed Apr 18 14:43:38 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

For God's sake keep the noise down. He'll hear.
God, what a squabble fest that was! I feel like I've been on a ten mile run! Jeez he was kicking up a fuss today! What a dill doh!

Ranting Armchair Know-it-all, UK

I imagine the posting will read:

"Internet bandwidth is a limited resource which is being grabbed by the hoardes (sic) of immigrants swamping our country, therefore immigration is HIGHLY RELEVANT to this debate, anyone who disagrees is mentally deficent(sic)"

Fiver anyone?

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Written by Anthony Wisener, belfast, Ireland on Wed Apr 18 12:19:51 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

The investment is worth the while, where I work it seems like the software hasn't been updated since BBCs were in vogue. The computers would probably crash if you tried to instal "pob can run".

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Written by John Bull, Middle England, United Kingdom on Wed Apr 18 14:14:42 UTC 2007. 0 recommendations.

Immigrants!
Tax!
Nulabor!
PC Gone Mad!
Islamofascism!
Gold Digging Women!
Gays!

Tomorrow belongs to one big rantfest!

Im damned if this topic will stay unmoderated!

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