Has summer arrived in Spring?
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Has summer arrived in Spring?
In my childhood every day was summer.
I am sure I have experienced warmer days in April, I don`t see anything extraordinary about the weather, my trees are slightly late coming in to leaf, the daffs were just about on time, and the bluebells have just come into flower, the grass needs cutting for the first time this year.
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I'm only 25, but even I remember when the BBC used to be independent, well-written and researched reporting. Now it's a shambles - they'll only ever publish one point of view, won't discuss the alternatives and sycophantically support what has been a pretty shocking Government.
Simon Smith,
Its called "social conditioning", they use it in education as well, thats why the are no original free thinking teachers left in the education system and the media only have small differences of view.
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Ironic that this is being discussed in a fully moderated HYS with to date over 200 comments submitted and 0 published.
nick s
Apparently, the next elections are going to be held on the BBC HYS site with Gordon Brown moderating the votes, I wonder who is going to win?
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I don't know if it's a result of global warming or an act of G-d. Read that Canadian crews out hunting and killing baby seals have been cut off in their boats by ice floes and are in mortal danger. Helicopters have been sent to try and rescue the crews.
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I believe that if the BBC pulls one of your comments they should explain the reasons why . Moderators should not be allowed to act like God without a good reason .
[psychoticfool]
Spot on, I have had loads of comments removed, often after several recommendations, which are selfmoderated, maybe slightly off topic, but everything is related ultimately. All the missiles flying around the gulf at the moment cannot be good for the climate which does relate Bush into this HYS, ie global warming.
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"the real issues of the day."
Little Englander, England
Are you going to talk about immigration AGAIN?
Please no.
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"I've heard few (if no) Muslim or Arab people expressing sorrow for killing innocents."
[Martin1983], London, United Kingdom
You wouldn't - that rarely gets reported in the press and remember that the region has officially been at war since 1967.
So think about it, people's choice is this: express sorrow and hang out in a prison or keep your mouth shut and continue to feed you family. You know how thorny politics is in most of the Middle East.
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"You're talking about an organisation that's using your tax money to block a report by their senior editor. A report that criticises their middle eastern coverage - specifically that it's anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian.
Deleting posts without explanation is nothing to this cabal."
The Elitist
So why do you keep posting here? Do you want us to think of you as "The Hypocrite" instead of "The Elitist".
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""Just like FOX, fair and balanced."
[G_Slick], North Carolina, United States
Thats right. Totally fair and easy to understand who the bad guys are. I like point counter point and how we are winning the war on terror but thje bbc doesnt tell us this." - Theresa Greene, Reading, Berks.
If you think Fox News is bad, you should try Al-Jazeera.
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So why do you keep posting here? Do you want us to think of you as "The Hypocrite" instead of "The Elitist".
Phosgene Gasse
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Typical response from your average HYS drone that slurps up the BBC's left wing poison.
I'm here to counter the lies, the distortion and the propaganda peddled by the likes of you and your marxist heroes - the BBC.
You might worship the BBC as some kind of sky-daddy a.k.a God - but I long for the day that I can tap dance on the BBC's grave.
I like the weather.
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Why was Anne Wotana Kaye's letter on killing seals pulled off? Is clubbing baby seals PC?
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"Of cause Bebe, anything you don't agree with is a ranting rubbish."
[caltech1]
Here is some proof (remember typing this?):
"What, another holiday, get those idle proles back to work, this corperation only made 20 billion profit last year, we cannot afford to have holidays for the masses?"
Bebe Rebozo
I think by the nature of his previous posts, He was, like Theresa, being Ironic?
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If they are in the wrong, then YES it is?
[Buddistmonk], hull, United Kingdom
Wrong by the BBC's standard?
First Name Last Name
Fred Mit, I agree with you on that, First name, I mean by the standards of Human decency, not the BBC's standard, Back in an hour?
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""You make it sound as if it's wrong and immoral to favour Israel. is it?"
fred mitinkovsky, london
No - but let's not claim they act better or are better than their neighbours because they don't and are not based on what Israel does. - Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States
Well, Israel's record on human rights, gay rights and rights for women are far better than their neighbours are, even if their methods of reducing and preventing terrorism leave much to be desired.
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"No, it's more the fact that it's as much a propaganda outlet as Fox is."
[Martin1983], London, United Kingdom
Martin - YOU are biased and have swalled the propaganda.
"You make it sound as if it's wrong and immoral to favour Israel. is it?"
fred mitinkovsky, london
No - but let's not claim they act better or are better than their neighbours because they don't and are not based on what Israel does.
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"You make it sound as if it's wrong and immoral to favour Israel. is it?"
fred mitinkovsky, london
If they are in the wrong, then YES it is?
[Buddistmonk], hull, United Kingdom
Of course it's wrong if Israel is in the wrong, by the same reason it's wrong and immoral to favour Palestinians when they commit a terrorist attack. Both sides are at fault in this but some people would have you believe one side is responsible for everything and the other can do no wrong.
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"Ah - does this relate to your rabidly pro-Israeli bias?
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States"
You make it sound as if it's wrong and immoral to favour Israel. is it?
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If you think Fox News is bad, you should try Al-Jazeera.
[Martin1983], London, United Kingdom
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Al Jazeera are far more open than Sky news or Fox and proberly the BBC, they see both sides.
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""If you think Fox News is bad, you should try Al-Jazeera."
[Martin1983], London, United Kingdom
Much less editorialising goes on at Al Jazeera... what is your problem with it?
Ah - does this relate to your rabidly pro-Israeli bias?
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC, United States"
No, it's more the fact that it's as much a propaganda outlet as Fox is.
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"If you think Fox News is bad, you should try Al-Jazeera."
[Martin1983], London, United Kingdom
Much less editorialising goes on at Al Jazeera... what is your problem with it?
Ah - does this relate to your rabidly pro-Israeli bias?
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Typical response from your average HYS drone that slurps up the BBC's left wing poison.
I'm here to counter the lies, the distortion and the propaganda peddled by the likes of you and your marxist heroes - the BBC.
You might worship the BBC as some kind of sky-daddy a.k.a God - but I long for the day that I can tap dance on the BBC's grave.
I like the weather.
The Elitist
Summer does on the face of it appear early, it brings out the morons that pretend they dont care but write rubbish.DOH
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Me two - i think the daily mail says it like it is and is not biased.
My IQ is 85!
Theresa Greene
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Unlike most of the HYS plebians that scuttle around here, I don't get my information from the BBC with Alan 'friend of the Palestinians' Johnston, Jeremy 'lives in Lebanon' Bowen, Barbara 'tears' Plett or Orla 'IRA' Guerin.
I happen to be in a position to know many people in Lebanon, Israel, Syria, Iran et al - as well as those in the military.
I get my info from the source.
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The Elitist writes: "Unlike most of the HYS plebians that scuttle around here, I don't get my information from the BBC with Alan 'friend of the Palestinians' Johnston, Jeremy 'lives in Lebanon' Bowen, Barbara 'tears' Plett or Orla 'IRA' Guerin.
I happen to be in a position to know many people in Lebanon, Israel, Syria, Iran et al - as well as those in the military.
I get my info from the source."
Summer is definitely here, along with some of the nauseating farmyard smells! ;)
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[Martin1983], London, United Kingdom Ah - does this relate to your rabidly pro-Israeli bias?
“Martin - YOU are biased and have swalled the propaganda.”
Tarek Hughes, Washington, DC
From his posts that I have read so far, I don’t think Martin is biased, his views seems more neutral, balanced and realistic than many others I’ve come across on these forums. It seems to me that u make assumptions and come to conclusions quite rapidly and based on insufficient information
It's beautiful day!
Has summer arrived in Spring?
You might worship the BBC as some kind of sky-daddy a.k.a God - but I long for the day that I can tap dance on the BBC's grave.
I like the weather.
The Elitist
Summer does on the face of it appear early, it brings out the morons that pretend they dont care but write rubbish.DOH
[policeturner],
Maybe, but he's better recommended then you, doe's that not tell you something?
Has summer arrived in Spring?
I thought this HYS was supposed to be about summer coming early, seems to me it is just an excuse for a lot of people to have a rant. Maybe it is midsummer madness?
[maycot],
If you try to comment about anything political on the relevant fully moderated HYS's, unless it exactly agree with the BBC's version, it never gets passed the moderators. This is our only chance to have OUR say, even then they often get took off, but at least they were there a while!
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As for the BBC - I'd like to know how many BBC journalists supported the recent boycott of Israeli goods by the National Union of Journalists.
The Elitist
They also passed a motion of support for Hugo Chavez. Their boycott of Israel came on the 1 month anniversary of Alan Johnston's kidnap by Palestinians. They decided to boycott the only country in the middle east with freedom of press and unions. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
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"As for the BBC - I'd like to know how many BBC journalists supported the recent boycott of Israeli goods by the National Union of Journalists.
That's the final nail in the coffin for British journalists in respect to their middle eastern impartiality claim."
The Elitist
Then FIND OUT and stop insinuating. You are not, repeat, not the Daily Mail.
As for your claiming to be impartial - that is way more biased than anything you have accused the beeb of!
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"Maybe, but he's better recommended then you, doe's that not tell you something?"
[lindsayblackmore]
Yes - that lots of Brits consume "news" where facts are consistently underreported in order to skew what people believe. Some people on here sound like the ill-begotten offspring of the Mail and Express - bastions of journalism whose reporting is laughable - especially over cancer alerts.
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Martin1983 is by far one of the best HYS characters. He's perhaps a bit too 'nice' for my liking when dealing with the axis of left wingers and Islamists - but his knowledge is sound.
As for the BBC - I'd like to know how many BBC journalists supported the recent boycott of Israeli goods by the National Union of Journalists.
That's the final nail in the coffin for British journalists in respect to their middle eastern impartiality claim.
The left wing are poison.
I like sun.
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"From his posts that I have read so far, I don’t think Martin is biased, his views seems more neutral, balanced and realistic than many others I’ve come across on these forums." -
[DOttawa], Canada
See, I was going to stay out until I read this. Martin1983 is pro-Israeli in the same way that SOME Muslims believe it's fine to blow up civilians. He never sees any wrong with Israel, and believes the ME crisis is down to the Arabs and Palestinians ONLY. Nothing neutral about his views.
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"Has anyone bothered to ask the aboriginals if this is the worst drought in the history of Australia?"Rev Brown, northampton, United Kingdom
Interesting idea -- I'm too lazy to go look, but does anyone know if the Aboriginals have an oral history that might include legends about great droughts?
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"Shouldn't you have a lie down? It's been great outside in the glorious sunshine."
[fancyapint], United Kingdom
My bedtime is rarely before 11.30! It's been really warm today - lovely!
Martin R, London
He says his mum never complains about that either! ;-)
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"Shouldn't you have a lie down? It's been great outside in the glorious sunshine."
[fancyapint], United Kingdom
My bedtime is rarely before 11.30! It's been really warm today - lovely!
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"Martin1983 is pro-Israeli in the same way that SOME Muslims believe it's fine to blow up civilians. He never sees any wrong with Israel, and believes the ME crisis is down to the Arabs and Palestinians ONLY. Nothing neutral about his views." - The Phantom
Aha, I have actually criticised Israel when I felt it was in the wrong (eg: Qana, Beit Hanoun), and expressed sorrow when it kills innocent people. I've heard few (if no) Muslim or Arab people expressing sorrow for killing innocents.
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The Phantom
“Martin1983 is pro-Israeli in the same way that SOME Muslims believe it's fine to blow up civilians”
No, he never supports killing of civilians, only terrorists, and I see nothing wrong with that. So wat? U think it’s a bright idea to keep terrorists alive blowing up ppl in buses, restaurants? Like they’re doing in Iraq right now! Perhaps Iraqis need an Israeli army to sort out their problems!
“He never sees any wrong with Israel"
Wrong again!
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"And hopefully you'll die a slow and painful skin cancer death."
William B, Cambridge, United Kingdom
You are a thoroughly sick individual
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"I love global warming.
i am doing my bit to make it evern sunnier by taking extra trips out in my 4x4.
So There, South of England, United Kingdom"
And hopefully you'll die a slow and painful skin cancer death.
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The BBC pulls one of your comments they should explain the reasons why . Moderators should not be allowed to act like God without a good reason .
[psychoticfool]
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You're talking about an organisation that's using your tax money to block a report by their senior editor. A report that criticises their middle eastern coverage - specifically that it's anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian.
Deleting posts without explanation is nothing to this cabal.
I like the weather just now.
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"Just like FOX, fair and balanced."
[G_Slick], North Carolina, United States
Thats right. Totally fair and easy to understand who the bad guys are. I like point counter point and how we are winning the war on terror but thje bbc doesnt tell us this.
Theresa Greene, Reading, Berks.
I couldn't agree more. They also report the truth about global warming.
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To martin r, re"..which media isn't biased...beware.. show your bias.."
My bias is all too clear: I am in favour of the British Broadcasting Corporation operating on the premise it is in receipt of money compulsorily extracted from Britons & that same BBC shall therefore provide an open, unedited, uncensored canvas on which the British License Fee payer may legitimately express their views whether Marxist-Green-Liberal-NewLab-Con-UKIP-BNP-Mo nster Raving Loony etc. subject to norms of legality.
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"Just like FOX, fair and balanced."
[G_Slick], North Carolina, United States
Thats right. Totally fair and easy to understand who the bad guys are. I like point counter point and how we are winning the war on terror but thje bbc doesnt tell us this.
Has summer arrived in Spring?
"I'm here to counter the lies, the distortion and the propaganda peddled by the likes of you and your marxist heroes - the BBC."
The Elitist
Me two - i think the daily mail says it like it is and is not biased. Theyre politicaol coverage is much better they tell you who the bad guys are so i dont need to think to much.
My IQ is 85!
Theresa Greene, Reading, Berk
Just like FOX, fair and balanced.
Has summer arrived in Spring?
"I'm here to counter the lies, the distortion and the propaganda peddled by the likes of you and your marxist heroes - the BBC."
The Elitist
Me two - i think the daily mail says it like it is and is not biased. Theyre politicaol coverage is much better they tell you who the bad guys are so i dont need to think to much.
My IQ is 85!
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"Try your logic as the dangerous BBC hegemony exploits its power to ensure an automatic bias supporting its editorial policy & fails to reflect real GB public opinion."
tommi konttinen, United Kingdom
Bias - but the BBC is one of the least biased media organisations - like Reuters. In your opinion, what is an unbiased media outlet?
(Beware - answering will show your bias!)
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To phosgene gasse, "..why..posting on BBC HYS..sound like a hypocrite.."
Yes, a logical riposte to comments on the BBC's monopoly & censorship!
Any chance you could point to a real reason why as a License Fee payer I or any other complainants should not at least try to exercise their right to access this publicly owned network?
Try your logic as the dangerous BBC hegemony exploits its power to ensure an automatic bias supporting its editorial policy & fails to reflect real GB public opinion.
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"BBC shall therefore provide an open, unedited, uncensored canvas on which the British License Fee payer may legitimately express their views whether Marxist-Green-Liberal-NewLab-Con-UKIP-BNP-Mo nster Raving Loony etc. subject to norms of legality."
tommi konttinen, United Kingdom
I.e. a collection of ranting rubbish. Great plan. I'll visit such a collection-o-cobblers each day to 'learn' the latest.
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"That is selective censorship and gives a distorted view of the truth to the viewers. in capitals:- FREE SPEECH FOR ALL."
[caltech1]
Truth? Your previous post really helps me get to the truth!! Strewth.
"Another tax on the childless to pay for breeders, where will it end. I might as well give my wages stright to Gordon and let him throw a few morsals back at me when it suits him?"
Free speech is one thing. A free board for drivel is another. The BBC is a public SERVICE not graffiti.
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Not sure if summer has come early, but the disappearance of John Prescott from our airwaves and screens has certainly put a "spring" into my step.
Thanks John - you have done the right thing for once.
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To old gattonian2: RAAS? Lakes & fields galore! Blooms all over Colley Hill! tommi konttinen, United Kingdom Ha, ha, ha. Another old gattonian at last 260 acres of glorious woodland, fields, ponds and the lake. I was in Albert House (early 60s) and go back every year for Founders day in May If your on friends re-united contact me under the name Charles Bailey so we can chat about past times. Aunty Beeb please print this posting.
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So snorkmaiden, because I keep saying "that's wrong" when someone is wrong, I'm espousing "enviro-lecture"?
Well, what's wrong with that? Don't you WANT to know when you're wrong? Is it bad to tell someone when they are wrong?
You seem to have nothing to argue against the science so you argue against the messenger.
Not a rational human, are you?
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