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	<description>Monitoring the corporate media</description>
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		<title>By: Vince Pacella - Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/2006/10/22/news-sniffer-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Pacella - Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common sense would dictate the reason why this person didn&#039;t come out with a service that monitors 3462359247835872348609 media sources around the world is that this person is only one person.

I&#039;m a computer programmer , so I can appreciate the fact that each media outlet will involve hours of time determining how their formats work. (I&#039;m assuming)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common sense would dictate the reason why this person didn&#8217;t come out with a service that monitors 3462359247835872348609 media sources around the world is that this person is only one person.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a computer programmer , so I can appreciate the fact that each media outlet will involve hours of time determining how their formats work. (I&#8217;m assuming)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/2006/10/22/news-sniffer-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you monitor a broader spread of organisations? Do you think that the &#039;liberal&#039; media has a monopoly on revision.

Personally I think the whole idea is rather silly. Constant revision is a crucial part of news production. If you buy the last edition of a newspaper, there will have been changes since the first edition, made when more information came in. Why on earth should web news be any different. Personally I&#039;d rather the BBC didn&#039;t spend my licence fee on storing every poxy revision of a story to satisfy a few weirdos&#039; paranoia. &#039;Watch Your Mouth&#039;, meanwhile, is actually a very good advertisement *for* the moderation of HYS - the deleted comments almost all seem to be off-topic, insane, illiterate, racist, downright stupid or all of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you monitor a broader spread of organisations? Do you think that the &#8216;liberal&#8217; media has a monopoly on revision.</p>
<p>Personally I think the whole idea is rather silly. Constant revision is a crucial part of news production. If you buy the last edition of a newspaper, there will have been changes since the first edition, made when more information came in. Why on earth should web news be any different. Personally I&#8217;d rather the BBC didn&#8217;t spend my licence fee on storing every poxy revision of a story to satisfy a few weirdos&#8217; paranoia. &#8216;Watch Your Mouth&#8217;, meanwhile, is actually a very good advertisement *for* the moderation of HYS &#8211; the deleted comments almost all seem to be off-topic, insane, illiterate, racist, downright stupid or all of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: ad</title>
		<link>http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/2006/10/22/news-sniffer-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>ad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the vast majority of revisions maybe additions, spelling/grammatical amendments, what about genuine occasions where news stories are heavily edited or removed entirely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the vast majority of revisions maybe additions, spelling/grammatical amendments, what about genuine occasions where news stories are heavily edited or removed entirely?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/2006/10/22/news-sniffer-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I thought this was rather clever. Now I think this is all rather silly and childish. The idea that stories are revisionist demonstrates a complete ignorance of how news works on the web. They publish a few paragraphs, add a few more and so on. It&#039;s hardly a conspiracy to revise a story when they&#039;re trying to publish as quickly as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I thought this was rather clever. Now I think this is all rather silly and childish. The idea that stories are revisionist demonstrates a complete ignorance of how news works on the web. They publish a few paragraphs, add a few more and so on. It&#8217;s hardly a conspiracy to revise a story when they&#8217;re trying to publish as quickly as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/2006/10/22/news-sniffer-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great that the BBC is scrutinized in this way, so that it can remain the best global news source. I&#039;m not sure if adding lots of right-wing news sites is necessary as many would fall down on bias based on the main body of the content, rather than just the changes and corrections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great that the BBC is scrutinized in this way, so that it can remain the best global news source. I&#8217;m not sure if adding lots of right-wing news sites is necessary as many would fall down on bias based on the main body of the content, rather than just the changes and corrections.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/2006/10/22/news-sniffer-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea.  The &quot;joy&quot; of the internet is that it makes revisions more noticable.  In a newspaper, you simply don&#039;t know what changes have happened - what people have been up to before you read it.  On a TV, unless you&#039;re very clever, you&#039;ll never keep track of the changes.  Of course people may well read into some of the revisions, stuff which isn&#039;t there in reality.  But so what?  Both sides of an argument could take the same revision and portray it in different ways.  Debate is healthy.

If I may make a request - what I&#039;d like is to see the flip side.  What is deemed to be the left wing press (I say &quot;deemed&quot; because I will not judge) always gets picked on for this kind of thing, but what is deemed to be the right, rarely is.  Which is why I personally would like to see the right exposed as well - equality for both sides :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea.  The &#8220;joy&#8221; of the internet is that it makes revisions more noticable.  In a newspaper, you simply don&#8217;t know what changes have happened &#8211; what people have been up to before you read it.  On a TV, unless you&#8217;re very clever, you&#8217;ll never keep track of the changes.  Of course people may well read into some of the revisions, stuff which isn&#8217;t there in reality.  But so what?  Both sides of an argument could take the same revision and portray it in different ways.  Debate is healthy.</p>
<p>If I may make a request &#8211; what I&#8217;d like is to see the flip side.  What is deemed to be the left wing press (I say &#8220;deemed&#8221; because I will not judge) always gets picked on for this kind of thing, but what is deemed to be the right, rarely is.  Which is why I personally would like to see the right exposed as well &#8211; equality for both sides <img src='http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Schoolboy Error</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schoolboy Error</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long do you think it will be before something like this will be available with speech recognition,please?I believe the BBC indulges in social engineering (see introduction of term &#039;lone parent&#039; to replace the term in common everyday usage &#039;single parent&#039;).It would be great to get early notice of these PC inspired impositions at an early stage and flag them up.I first heard &#039;Tory&#039; used on a BBC radio news broadcast in (mid)1996.It then transferred to BBC television news broadcasts with increasing frequency up to the 1997 election.The ongoing problem is that Labour/New (improved) Labour are used differently to suit the context of the report:Labour when discussing &#039;traditional socialist values&#039; and New (improved) Labour when reporting items containig &#039;the party&#039;s vision for the future&#039;.Do you think something that could detect these biased usages could be available before the next election?(Ideally including the speech recognition).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long do you think it will be before something like this will be available with speech recognition,please?I believe the BBC indulges in social engineering (see introduction of term &#8216;lone parent&#8217; to replace the term in common everyday usage &#8216;single parent&#8217;).It would be great to get early notice of these PC inspired impositions at an early stage and flag them up.I first heard &#8216;Tory&#8217; used on a BBC radio news broadcast in (mid)1996.It then transferred to BBC television news broadcasts with increasing frequency up to the 1997 election.The ongoing problem is that Labour/New (improved) Labour are used differently to suit the context of the report:Labour when discussing &#8216;traditional socialist values&#8217; and New (improved) Labour when reporting items containig &#8216;the party&#8217;s vision for the future&#8217;.Do you think something that could detect these biased usages could be available before the next election?(Ideally including the speech recognition).</p>
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		<title>By: James of England</title>
		<link>http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/blog/2006/10/22/news-sniffer-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>James of England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say thank you. This is a wonderful site, and sorely needed. I&#039;ve argued for a long time that the Beeb needed to keep its past revisions like wikipedia does. That that would do more than any number of Editor&#039;s Blogs and such to encourage honesty. This is not quite there, but it is a big step in the right direction, probably as big as can be made by anyone other than the Beeb itself. Really made my day. Again, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say thank you. This is a wonderful site, and sorely needed. I&#8217;ve argued for a long time that the Beeb needed to keep its past revisions like wikipedia does. That that would do more than any number of Editor&#8217;s Blogs and such to encourage honesty. This is not quite there, but it is a big step in the right direction, probably as big as can be made by anyone other than the Beeb itself. Really made my day. Again, thank you.</p>
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