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Corbyn v Smith at Labour hustings: whose finger is on the pulse? Corbyn v Smith at Labour hustings: whose finger is on the pulse?
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Owen SmithOwen Smith
What’s worse: being described as a Tory, or as a smarmy post-Tribunite nonentity swathed in unrealistic ambition? Definitely being described as a Tory!What’s worse: being described as a Tory, or as a smarmy post-Tribunite nonentity swathed in unrealistic ambition? Definitely being described as a Tory!
Who’s your favourite Conservative politician? Don’t have any.Who’s your favourite Conservative politician? Don’t have any.
Are you a feminist? Yes.Are you a feminist? Yes.
When was the last time you got angry, and why? About 20 minutes ago.When was the last time you got angry, and why? About 20 minutes ago.
Why? Because we were debating the future of the Labour party I love, and one that is at an incredibly low ebb right now, and because people in this country can’t afford there not to be a Labour government.Why? Because we were debating the future of the Labour party I love, and one that is at an incredibly low ebb right now, and because people in this country can’t afford there not to be a Labour government.
What’s the average price of a litre of unleaded petrol? Oh, one pound? No, I can’t remember. £1.10 pence at the moment? [The price at the end of July was 111.8p.]What’s the average price of a litre of unleaded petrol? Oh, one pound? No, I can’t remember. £1.10 pence at the moment? [The price at the end of July was 111.8p.]
Can you name the people in this photo? Taylor Swift, aaaand … is that Justin Bieber? I’m very good at singing along to Shake It [Off] on karaoke.Can you name the people in this photo? Taylor Swift, aaaand … is that Justin Bieber? I’m very good at singing along to Shake It [Off] on karaoke.
How many Olympic gold medals has Jason Kenny achieved over his entire cycling career? Ooh, loads. Errr, seven? Eight? Don’t know. [Six.]How many Olympic gold medals has Jason Kenny achieved over his entire cycling career? Ooh, loads. Errr, seven? Eight? Don’t know. [Six.]
What’s Jeremy Corbyn’s best quality? Errr … he’s got a very nice line in cream suits.What’s Jeremy Corbyn’s best quality? Errr … he’s got a very nice line in cream suits.
Is that it? No, look. Jeremy’s a man of great integrity and honesty, and I think he fundamentally believes in the Labour party. I just don’t think he’s a leader.Is that it? No, look. Jeremy’s a man of great integrity and honesty, and I think he fundamentally believes in the Labour party. I just don’t think he’s a leader.
What’s the worst thing about Jeremy Corbyn? I don’t think he’s a leader, and he’s in the position of leading the Labour party and at the moment, he’s leading us to loss.What’s the worst thing about Jeremy Corbyn? I don’t think he’s a leader, and he’s in the position of leading the Labour party and at the moment, he’s leading us to loss.
Would you serve in his shadow cabinet if he wins and invites you back into it? I’ll be thinking hard about this, because I am someone with integrity, and I have lost faith in Jeremy’s ability to lead us to victory. I’ve got to say no. I would serve on the backbenches, I wouldn’t do what Jeremy did and vote against Labour hundreds of times. I’ll always be Labour. Hundreds of times he voted against us and it wasn’t just on Iraq – it was 455 times on all sorts of issues. But I will always be Labour.Would you serve in his shadow cabinet if he wins and invites you back into it? I’ll be thinking hard about this, because I am someone with integrity, and I have lost faith in Jeremy’s ability to lead us to victory. I’ve got to say no. I would serve on the backbenches, I wouldn’t do what Jeremy did and vote against Labour hundreds of times. I’ll always be Labour. Hundreds of times he voted against us and it wasn’t just on Iraq – it was 455 times on all sorts of issues. But I will always be Labour.
Jeremy CorbynJeremy Corbyn
What do you prefer – and you have to pick one: Blairism or Trotskyism? I’d have to say neither.What do you prefer – and you have to pick one: Blairism or Trotskyism? I’d have to say neither.
You have to pick one! I’d have to say neither.You have to pick one! I’d have to say neither.
Can you name three things that you admire about Tony Blair? The fact he took through the whole Northern Ireland peace process with great determination, he did that extremely well. The fact that he supported the national minimum wage, and the fact that his government, when I was in parliament at the time, obviously, brought in the Human Rights Act and paved the way for the later Equalities Act.Can you name three things that you admire about Tony Blair? The fact he took through the whole Northern Ireland peace process with great determination, he did that extremely well. The fact that he supported the national minimum wage, and the fact that his government, when I was in parliament at the time, obviously, brought in the Human Rights Act and paved the way for the later Equalities Act.
Would you call yourself a feminist? Yes.Would you call yourself a feminist? Yes.
When was the last time you cried, and what was it about? Errrm, I can’t remember, so I don’t know what it was about.When was the last time you cried, and what was it about? Errrm, I can’t remember, so I don’t know what it was about.
Do you cry often or irregularly? No, no we don’t do a lot of crying.Do you cry often or irregularly? No, no we don’t do a lot of crying.
How much does a first class stamp cost? Fifty pence?How much does a first class stamp cost? Fifty pence?
Up a bit, higher! Corbyn Sixty-five? [It’s 64p.] Up a bit, higher! Sixty-five? [It’s 64p.]
I’m holding up a picture of two young men – I should think they’ve just reached 40, but anyway – do you know who these two men are, and which one is which? I’ll give you a clue: They’re Geordie TV presenters. Oh yeah. Well, they’re Geordie TV presenters! No, I don’t.I’m holding up a picture of two young men – I should think they’ve just reached 40, but anyway – do you know who these two men are, and which one is which? I’ll give you a clue: They’re Geordie TV presenters. Oh yeah. Well, they’re Geordie TV presenters! No, I don’t.
That’s Ant, and that’s Dec. I hope they’ll be happy about this!That’s Ant, and that’s Dec. I hope they’ll be happy about this!
They’re Labour supporters. I know, I know. They sent an email of support to the Labour party.They’re Labour supporters. I know, I know. They sent an email of support to the Labour party.
Maybe they’ll want to withdraw that now. I don’t know. I’ll apologise humbly to Ant and Dec.Maybe they’ll want to withdraw that now. I don’t know. I’ll apologise humbly to Ant and Dec.
How many Olympic golds has Sir Bradley Wiggins achieved so far? Errm … Fifteen, I think altogether?How many Olympic golds has Sir Bradley Wiggins achieved so far? Errm … Fifteen, I think altogether?
Golds. Oh, gold! Oh, 10. [The answer is six, plus one silver and one bronze.]Golds. Oh, gold! Oh, 10. [The answer is six, plus one silver and one bronze.]
What’s the best thing about Owen Smith? That he’s passionate and direct and he gets very excited.What’s the best thing about Owen Smith? That he’s passionate and direct and he gets very excited.
What’s the worst thing about Owen Smith? That he resigned from the shadow cabinet. He should come back.What’s the worst thing about Owen Smith? That he resigned from the shadow cabinet. He should come back.
So if you win, you’ll extend an invitation to him to come back to the shadow cabinet, even though he’s already said he’s not going to do that? Well, you know. People change.So if you win, you’ll extend an invitation to him to come back to the shadow cabinet, even though he’s already said he’s not going to do that? Well, you know. People change.
Would you serve in his shadow cabinet if he won? Well, if he invites me, of course. But I’m not sure the invitation is there – I would ask him that question if I were you. [To Smith] You might want to think about that.Would you serve in his shadow cabinet if he won? Well, if he invites me, of course. But I’m not sure the invitation is there – I would ask him that question if I were you. [To Smith] You might want to think about that.
(Smith responds: Jeremy asked me that last week and I said to him last week as I’ve said on two occasions on television: yes, I would want Jeremy in the shadow cabinet.)(Smith responds: Jeremy asked me that last week and I said to him last week as I’ve said on two occasions on television: yes, I would want Jeremy in the shadow cabinet.)
But you definitely don’t want to be president? No, because the position does not exist!But you definitely don’t want to be president? No, because the position does not exist!
But if he wins, he could create it just like that. Well no, he couldn’t create it. A leader can propose, the party can decide. And there is no position.But if he wins, he could create it just like that. Well no, he couldn’t create it. A leader can propose, the party can decide. And there is no position.