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French presidential candidates debate key election issues - live! French presidential candidates debate key election issues - live!
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Hamon says neighbourhood policing needs to be boosted, and police operating in sensitive areas should get a bonus. Hostility to the police must stop, he says. On the other hand, ID controls must stop discriminating against non-whites.
Mélenchon says that in 10 years, parliament has passed 15 new security laws and none have ever been evaluated. Police are deeply unhappy, he says – but at the same time, “a certain part of the population is afraid of the police”. The “logic of confrontation” must stop.
Macron says it’s important not to exaggerate. But security is a priority, he says. He will create a new form of neighbourhood policing for petty crime and delinquency, with officers able to hand out on-the-spot fines and judges able to order expulsions. Pragmatism, not grand principles, he says.
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Security and justice
Le Pen says 12,500 police and gendarmerie posts were cut under the presidency of Nicolas Sarkozy. The security forces must be strengthened, she says.
She wants to create an extra 40,000 prison places, and stiffer penalties. Victims don’t understand why sentences are so short, she says.
Fillon says France has the biggest debt of any major country, so Le Pen’s promises are not affordable. But crime and delinquency have increased, he says, so something has to be done.
He suggests relieving police of their administrative burden and bringing in new staff to help. He says 16,000 new prison places will be sufficient – but above all, more respect for the police.
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Le Pen says 50% of primary school time must be devoted to learning French and lessons in children’s mother tongues should be scrapped.
She too says professional training must be improved, and accuses the education ministry of neglecting this.
Schools are not safe places, she says: teaches are insulted and abused. And secularism must be preserved.
Hamon says French schoolchildren have the most demanding days of all pupils in Europe, and proposes limiting primary classes to 25. He says it is essential to hire 20,000 more teachers, and he promises more mixed intakes in secondary school, with larger catchment areas.
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The first question from the two journalists: what social model for France?
Starting with education.
Fillon says 150,000 French school pupils leave school without knowing the fundamentals. He says discipline is important, and school uniforms – almost unknown in France – would underline equality. Teachers should be better paid and better viewed.
Emmanuel Macron says many 10- and 11 year-olds cannot properly read or write. In priority education areas, he says, he wants extra teaching hours and radically reduced class sizes, and far better vocational training.
Mélenchon says he wants to hire far more teachers, and also laments the closure of 170 technical colleges across France in recent years. Vocational training from age 16 is vital, he says.
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Benoit Hamon asks whether the French want to be “warlike” or “fraternal” – what message do we want to send the world, he asks.
I will be an honest, open and fair president, he says; I will turn the page on the old promises.
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Marine Le Pen says she does not want to be a president running a “vague region of the European Union”, submissive to Angela Merkel.
The president must be the guarantor of national independence, she says, for which millions of French people have fought and died.
That means the right for the French to choose their own path, she says. “The French must defend their interests.”
I will be the president who gives the French back their voice.
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Emmanuel Macron says he has been a civil servant, a banker, and a minister. He has done “useful” things he says, but has also seen what blocks France and stops it advancing.
The country is in a situation in which it has never found itself, he says. It faces new challenges, and the traditional politics cannot face up to the challenge.
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Jean-Luc Mélenchon says he will be the last president of the Fifth Republic.
He says he will be a president for ecology and for peace.
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Kicking off is Francois Fillon. He regrets that the six other candidates in the first round are not participating.
He says he would be the president who relieves the French of too much bureaucracy, who protects them, who allows France to become once more a major world power.
I have a project for that, a project I have worked on for many years.
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The candidates have entered the studio and final preparations for the debate are underway – all smiles and handshakes for the ‘family photo’.The candidates have entered the studio and final preparations for the debate are underway – all smiles and handshakes for the ‘family photo’.
“It’s going to be tough, it’s going to be physical,” says one of the TF1 presenters. “Nearly three hours of debate.”“It’s going to be tough, it’s going to be physical,” says one of the TF1 presenters. “Nearly three hours of debate.”
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Observers have said Macron, the independent centrist who classifies himself as “neither left nor right”, could become a target for the other four who may unite to attack him from all sides.Observers have said Macron, the independent centrist who classifies himself as “neither left nor right”, could become a target for the other four who may unite to attack him from all sides.
How well he stands up to the threat could be key to his success.Jerome Fourquet, director of polling at leading French pollster Ifop, said the stakes were “incredibly high” for Macron:How well he stands up to the threat could be key to his success.Jerome Fourquet, director of polling at leading French pollster Ifop, said the stakes were “incredibly high” for Macron:
He’s the front-runner and his centrist positioning means he will be attacked from both sides. Most French don’t know him well at this stage and they’ll be looking closely at his ability to take punches.He’s the front-runner and his centrist positioning means he will be attacked from both sides. Most French don’t know him well at this stage and they’ll be looking closely at his ability to take punches.
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According to the news magazine Marianne, each candidate will have two minutes to respond to the journalists’ questions, with their rivals able to interrupt after a minute and a half.According to the news magazine Marianne, each candidate will have two minutes to respond to the journalists’ questions, with their rivals able to interrupt after a minute and a half.
Before the debate proper, they will each have 90 seconds to respond to the question “What kind of president would you be?” – with a similar amount of time at the end of debate to sum up.Before the debate proper, they will each have 90 seconds to respond to the question “What kind of president would you be?” – with a similar amount of time at the end of debate to sum up.
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Answering political journalists Gilles Bouleau and Anne-Claire Coudray from France’s main commercial channel, TF1, the candidates will address three main themes:Answering political journalists Gilles Bouleau and Anne-Claire Coudray from France’s main commercial channel, TF1, the candidates will address three main themes:
– What social model should France adopt (likely to cover the key campaign questions such as security, immigration and national identity)– What social model should France adopt (likely to cover the key campaign questions such as security, immigration and national identity)
– Which economic model should France adopt (likely to address labour laws and France’s stubborn unemployment, social protection, tax and trade)– Which economic model should France adopt (likely to address labour laws and France’s stubborn unemployment, social protection, tax and trade)
– What place should France occupy in the world? (the European Union, control of France’s borders, terrorism)– What place should France occupy in the world? (the European Union, control of France’s borders, terrorism)
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So after months of scandal, corruption allegations and infighting, voters will finally get to assess the different policy positions of the leading candidates.So after months of scandal, corruption allegations and infighting, voters will finally get to assess the different policy positions of the leading candidates.
One of the many things that make this campaign intriguing is that neither of the two leading candidates, Le Pen and Macron, both on around 26% in the polls heading into the first round, represent the traditional parties of the centre-right (Les Républicains) and centre left (Parti Socialiste) that have dominated French politics since the war.One of the many things that make this campaign intriguing is that neither of the two leading candidates, Le Pen and Macron, both on around 26% in the polls heading into the first round, represent the traditional parties of the centre-right (Les Républicains) and centre left (Parti Socialiste) that have dominated French politics since the war.
Le Pen is standing on a populist, anti-immigration, anti-EU platform but her economic proposals look left wing. Macron is on the left as far as social issues are concerned, but a pro-business liberal economically. Fillon, who is polling around 17%, and Hamon (13%) are firmly on the right and left wings of their respective parties.Le Pen is standing on a populist, anti-immigration, anti-EU platform but her economic proposals look left wing. Macron is on the left as far as social issues are concerned, but a pro-business liberal economically. Fillon, who is polling around 17%, and Hamon (13%) are firmly on the right and left wings of their respective parties.
Hit by allegations he paid his family to do fake parliamentary jobs, Fillon is a conservative Catholic who believes France needs a Thatcherite economic revolution; Hamon’s anti-austerity, pro-Europe programme includes the introduction of a minimum universal income.Hit by allegations he paid his family to do fake parliamentary jobs, Fillon is a conservative Catholic who believes France needs a Thatcherite economic revolution; Hamon’s anti-austerity, pro-Europe programme includes the introduction of a minimum universal income.
Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the far-left candidate, is on about 10%.Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the far-left candidate, is on about 10%.
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Hello and welcome to the Guardian’s live coverage of the first televised debate between the leading candidates in France’s presidential election – one of the most keenly watched, and unpredictable, in recent memory.Hello and welcome to the Guardian’s live coverage of the first televised debate between the leading candidates in France’s presidential election – one of the most keenly watched, and unpredictable, in recent memory.
The event is unprecedented: in past elections, the two candidates who make it through to the second-round run-off have faced off against each other in TV debates that have sometimes proved critical to the poll’s outcome.The event is unprecedented: in past elections, the two candidates who make it through to the second-round run-off have faced off against each other in TV debates that have sometimes proved critical to the poll’s outcome.
This is the first time the campaign’s frontrunners have debated before the first round of the elections, due this year on 23 April (the second round follows a fortnight later on 7 May).This is the first time the campaign’s frontrunners have debated before the first round of the elections, due this year on 23 April (the second round follows a fortnight later on 7 May).
Over the next two and a half hours, Marine Le Pen of the far-right Front National, independent centrist Emmanuel Macron, François Fillon of the centre-right Les Républicains, the Socialist party’s Benoît Hamon and hard-left firebrand Jean-Luc Mélenchon will outline their platforms for a studio audience of 420 and a TV audience of several million.Over the next two and a half hours, Marine Le Pen of the far-right Front National, independent centrist Emmanuel Macron, François Fillon of the centre-right Les Républicains, the Socialist party’s Benoît Hamon and hard-left firebrand Jean-Luc Mélenchon will outline their platforms for a studio audience of 420 and a TV audience of several million.
I’ll be covering the event as it happens. Please feel free to contact me via Twitter @jonhenley or by email: jon.henley@theguardian.com – though I can’t promise to reply straight away.I’ll be covering the event as it happens. Please feel free to contact me via Twitter @jonhenley or by email: jon.henley@theguardian.com – though I can’t promise to reply straight away.