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How Samantha Bee and Cecile Richards Overcome Self-Doubt How Samantha Bee and Cecile Richards Overcome Self-Doubt
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Samantha Bee, the first woman to host a late-night satirical show, “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee,” week after week cuttingly and eloquently attacks politicians and policies. But she isn’t what she appears.Samantha Bee, the first woman to host a late-night satirical show, “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee,” week after week cuttingly and eloquently attacks politicians and policies. But she isn’t what she appears.
The assured manner? The assertive self-confidence? It’s not quite an act, but it’s something she has to put on, like the blazers she wears.The assured manner? The assertive self-confidence? It’s not quite an act, but it’s something she has to put on, like the blazers she wears.
“I think that you become a comedian because all you feel is self-doubt,” Ms. Bee said last week at the New Rules Summit hosted by The New York Times.“I think that you become a comedian because all you feel is self-doubt,” Ms. Bee said last week at the New Rules Summit hosted by The New York Times.
She contrasted herself with her husband, Jason Jones; they worked together for years on “The Daily Show” and more recently created the television comedy “The Detour.”She contrasted herself with her husband, Jason Jones; they worked together for years on “The Daily Show” and more recently created the television comedy “The Detour.”
“He never seems to waver in his belief about something,” she said. “When he feels a certain way creatively, he drives toward that goal with such strength and such belief in his idea. And when I was making a show there was so much self-doubt.”“He never seems to waver in his belief about something,” she said. “When he feels a certain way creatively, he drives toward that goal with such strength and such belief in his idea. And when I was making a show there was so much self-doubt.”
So, Ms. Bee said she sat her husband down one day and asked him “to teach me how to be a man.” How, she asked, can he believe wholeheartedly in his own ideas, even when they’re bad, although she used a saltier adjective.So, Ms. Bee said she sat her husband down one day and asked him “to teach me how to be a man.” How, she asked, can he believe wholeheartedly in his own ideas, even when they’re bad, although she used a saltier adjective.
“And he was, like, ‘Oh sure. You just don’t listen to anybody. You just do the thing, and you block out everybody else.’ And I was like, O.K., I’m going to do that.“And he was, like, ‘Oh sure. You just don’t listen to anybody. You just do the thing, and you block out everybody else.’ And I was like, O.K., I’m going to do that.
“And so I took a shower, and I was like, O.K., was washing my hair and kind of crying. And then I was like, ‘I’m just going to be a man. I’m going to block out everything.’ And then I did that. And I still do that.”“And so I took a shower, and I was like, O.K., was washing my hair and kind of crying. And then I was like, ‘I’m just going to be a man. I’m going to block out everything.’ And then I did that. And I still do that.”
She added that it was the psychological equivalent of putting on a blazer, “which really is armor.”She added that it was the psychological equivalent of putting on a blazer, “which really is armor.”
Cecile Richards, a former president of Planned Parenthood, who shared the stage with Ms. Bee, said she almost didn’t go to her job interview with Planned Parenthood — a position she held for a decade until stepping down this year — because “I was like, ‘Oh my God, I can’t do that job.’Cecile Richards, a former president of Planned Parenthood, who shared the stage with Ms. Bee, said she almost didn’t go to her job interview with Planned Parenthood — a position she held for a decade until stepping down this year — because “I was like, ‘Oh my God, I can’t do that job.’
“And I remember stopping in a coffee shop in a dead panic and doing what any grown woman would do, which is call my mother. And I said, ‘I don’t know what to do.’ And she’s, ‘Cecile, get over yourself.’” Her mother, Ann Richards, was the former governor of Texas.“And I remember stopping in a coffee shop in a dead panic and doing what any grown woman would do, which is call my mother. And I said, ‘I don’t know what to do.’ And she’s, ‘Cecile, get over yourself.’” Her mother, Ann Richards, was the former governor of Texas.
Turning from the personal to the political, Ms. Bee and Ms. Richards were firm about the single most important thing every woman can do to create change.Turning from the personal to the political, Ms. Bee and Ms. Richards were firm about the single most important thing every woman can do to create change.
Knitting your pussy hat is great, marching, writing irate postcards to Paul Ryan is great, Ms. Richards said. “But voting is the whole thing.”Knitting your pussy hat is great, marching, writing irate postcards to Paul Ryan is great, Ms. Richards said. “But voting is the whole thing.”
Ms. Bee agreed. “You must vote. You must vote,” she said. “We learned that within our viewing audience, I think only 53 percent is registered to vote. And all I do is hector people about voting on my show.”Ms. Bee agreed. “You must vote. You must vote,” she said. “We learned that within our viewing audience, I think only 53 percent is registered to vote. And all I do is hector people about voting on my show.”
But voting is not enough, Ms. Richards said. Women’s new motto has to be “start before you’re ready. Because if you wait until everything is lined up — your kids are the right age, or you’ve got the right degrees, or you have the right clothes — then life is going to pass you by.”But voting is not enough, Ms. Richards said. Women’s new motto has to be “start before you’re ready. Because if you wait until everything is lined up — your kids are the right age, or you’ve got the right degrees, or you have the right clothes — then life is going to pass you by.”
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