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Foursquare promises 'a lot of love' for UK brands and users Foursquare promises 'a lot of love' for UK brands and users
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Foursquare is courting retailers, businesses and media companies in the UK in an effort to make its social location app more popular among British smartphone owners.Foursquare is courting retailers, businesses and media companies in the UK in an effort to make its social location app more popular among British smartphone owners.
Business development executive Omid Ashtari, who is based in the UK, said at today's London Web Summit that "there's a different perception of Foursquare over here than in the US" and promised to change it.Business development executive Omid Ashtari, who is based in the UK, said at today's London Web Summit that "there's a different perception of Foursquare over here than in the US" and promised to change it.
"Brands and users haven't got enough love from us over here. That's why I'm here, to give everybody a lot of love!" said Ashtari. Those efforts are necessary: even at a tech-heavy conference like LWS, only 23 people had checked in halfway through the event."Brands and users haven't got enough love from us over here. That's why I'm here, to give everybody a lot of love!" said Ashtari. Those efforts are necessary: even at a tech-heavy conference like LWS, only 23 people had checked in halfway through the event.
Ashtari was speaking in a panel on "The future of mobile, local, social" alongside WPP Digital chief executive Mark Read; LivingSocial's managing director of the UK, Ireland and the Netherlands Peter Briffett; Kraft Foods' vice president of global digital and consumer engagement B. Bonin Bough; and Bookingbug chief executive Glenn Shoosmith.Ashtari was speaking in a panel on "The future of mobile, local, social" alongside WPP Digital chief executive Mark Read; LivingSocial's managing director of the UK, Ireland and the Netherlands Peter Briffett; Kraft Foods' vice president of global digital and consumer engagement B. Bonin Bough; and Bookingbug chief executive Glenn Shoosmith.
One barrier to greater Foursquare takeup in the UK is a chicken-and-egg challenge: until more people are using social location apps, businesses – particularly small firms – may be wary of using them for marketing.One barrier to greater Foursquare takeup in the UK is a chicken-and-egg challenge: until more people are using social location apps, businesses – particularly small firms – may be wary of using them for marketing.
Yet discounts and loyalty campaigns from these kinds of businesses could be what gets more people to use Foursquare. Ashtari noted that more than 750,000 companies have claimed their businesses on Foursquare, getting access to check-in analytics and the ability to run Specials deals as a result.Yet discounts and loyalty campaigns from these kinds of businesses could be what gets more people to use Foursquare. Ashtari noted that more than 750,000 companies have claimed their businesses on Foursquare, getting access to check-in analytics and the ability to run Specials deals as a result.
"These are things which are really exciting and available for small and big merchants alike. It's just about getting the eyeballs on them. Foursquare is known as this check in and gamifications app, but we really want to change that and show people we provide real value to users.""These are things which are really exciting and available for small and big merchants alike. It's just about getting the eyeballs on them. Foursquare is known as this check in and gamifications app, but we really want to change that and show people we provide real value to users."
Mobile is certainly becoming more important for the companies whose business models are based around offering local deals, like Groupon and LivingSocial. The latter's Briffett said that 22-23% of the company's global users are now interacting with LivingSocial from their phones.Mobile is certainly becoming more important for the companies whose business models are based around offering local deals, like Groupon and LivingSocial. The latter's Briffett said that 22-23% of the company's global users are now interacting with LivingSocial from their phones.
"We're pushing out marketing [in LivingSocial's non-mobile business] but mobile is all about people coming to us and looking at our app," he said."We're pushing out marketing [in LivingSocial's non-mobile business] but mobile is all about people coming to us and looking at our app," he said.
"We know from where we sit mobile is a huge piece… We've got local commerce in there, but for us the future is how do you make it social and get people to come back to it?""We know from where we sit mobile is a huge piece… We've got local commerce in there, but for us the future is how do you make it social and get people to come back to it?"
Before working at Kraft, Bough headed up digital marketing for PepsiCo, where he ran an early test on Foursquare that encouraged people to check in at petrol stations to get a cheap deal on a drink and a bag of crisps. He then compared it with the same campaign using a tear-off coupon.Before working at Kraft, Bough headed up digital marketing for PepsiCo, where he ran an early test on Foursquare that encouraged people to check in at petrol stations to get a cheap deal on a drink and a bag of crisps. He then compared it with the same campaign using a tear-off coupon.
"We saw a 47% increase in purchases [of the bundle] in those stores with Foursquare," said Bough. "That's huge. Here we were able to build a loyalty relationship in-store at the point of sale. Every CPG [consumer packaged goods company] should be looking at mobile platforms as big as they can.""We saw a 47% increase in purchases [of the bundle] in those stores with Foursquare," said Bough. "That's huge. Here we were able to build a loyalty relationship in-store at the point of sale. Every CPG [consumer packaged goods company] should be looking at mobile platforms as big as they can."
WPP's Read questioned whether businesses and brands risk getting drawn down a road of only marketing themselves based on discounts – a sentiment that his peers in the advertising industry would doubtless echo – but the panel also discussed whether recent privacy controversies around social and location apps would be a barrier to adoption from consumers.WPP's Read questioned whether businesses and brands risk getting drawn down a road of only marketing themselves based on discounts – a sentiment that his peers in the advertising industry would doubtless echo – but the panel also discussed whether recent privacy controversies around social and location apps would be a barrier to adoption from consumers.
"I think privacy will be the issue of our generation," said Bough. "We have a lot of major social network players who are skating around the issue of data ownership.""I think privacy will be the issue of our generation," said Bough. "We have a lot of major social network players who are skating around the issue of data ownership."
Foursquare was one of the apps scrutinised recently for uploading users' address books to its servers without asking permission, but Ashtari suggested that perceptions of privacy vary between generations.Foursquare was one of the apps scrutinised recently for uploading users' address books to its servers without asking permission, but Ashtari suggested that perceptions of privacy vary between generations.
"If you've gone through college during the time which Facebook existed, you have a completely different perception of privacy," he said, while stressing that Foursquare wants to "put privacy first", and also to convince people that checking in will provide more benefits than privacy worries."If you've gone through college during the time which Facebook existed, you have a completely different perception of privacy," he said, while stressing that Foursquare wants to "put privacy first", and also to convince people that checking in will provide more benefits than privacy worries.
"It's all about giving you the benefits of the data that we have in our database back. Saying okay, there are good things around the corner…""It's all about giving you the benefits of the data that we have in our database back. Saying okay, there are good things around the corner…"
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19 March 2012 3:34PM
But what does it do? One of my friends uses Foursquare and all it seems to do is say "I'm in (the post office/The Bullring/Oxford Circus).
I'm not interested in that; I don't use social media to find out where someone is.
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19 March 2012 3:37PM
There isn't a lot of love for FourSquare over here because people aren't stupid enough to think they actually need it.
No - I don't need to make going to my local coffee shop into an online game thanks very much, the impetus of needing a coffee is enough for me to go.
This is a prime example of advertisers trying to push something onto the public that they don't want or need, purely so they have an extra way to sell them stuff.
With location logging now also available on Facebook, there is really no need for FourSquare.
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19 March 2012 4:06PM
Foursquare can be very handy to discover things when you're in an unfamiliar area, for example finding a good restaurant nearby. For me that is the main reason I use Foursquare at the moment.
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19 March 2012 4:08PM
This is a reasonable use for it; but at the same time I've found there's masses of Yellow Pages style things online that serve a similar process. Most even offer user reviews, which appears to be the draw here.
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19 March 2012 4:22PM
Foursquare is brilliant. Like so many of these things, agonising about data is something old people do. People who drone on about data really don't understand the behaviours of the kind of audience that is rapidly growing to use these platforms.
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19 March 2012 4:32PM
You'd sound a little less like an advertisement if you explained why it's brilliant.
People who drone on about data really don't understand the behaviours of the kind of audience that is rapidly growing to use these platforms
I don't understand these behaviours; and I'm a young, tech-savvy person. Would you explain them?
If you can explain why Foursquare is better than the directory enquiries/local service directory and review services available at the moment, I'll be more likely to reconsider. Being simply told "it's brilliant and you just don't get it, you're like so OLD grandad" makes me think I'm being advertised to.
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19 March 2012 5:59PM
I'm not sure why you'd use Forusquare for reviews. Last I looked the only businesses on there were Starbucks, Domino's etc who serve identical products in every shop the world over.
If I need a review I'll use TripAdvisor. If for some unfathomable reason I want to tell my friends I'm at a certain location I'll use Facebook. Foursquare has the same problem Google+ does. No friends=No social=No point.
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20 March 2012 3:22PM
@thebassplayer
Great. But what does it actually do that a combination of Facebook check in and a million location based apps don't?
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20 March 2012 4:01PM
@R042
I'd go as far as to say your "friend" is not using Foursquare properly; but (s)he is only doing the same as countless others, and, then, like seeing Twitter for the first time, it's as boring as hell, with nuisance factor thrown in!
If, however, you think of Foursquare as a geo-social network, where you only connect with friends & associates who's views you might be interested in, and if they use it properly, to say what they're doing, or what they've discovered that might be a good deal, then you, like most of us, would prefer to take their word more seriously than anyone perceived as trying to "sell" something! Wouldn't that be better?
"Selling" is out of date - we are only interested in making our own, informed, decisions nowadays, and BUYING when we are ready - WE are in control that way.
How do you buy things or discover places? Do some research first?
Smaller businesses ARE starting to use it, but only when it's explained to them properly, and they see there can be a win-win in prospect!
Foursquare will post to Facebook and Twitter, so why do you need to use a combination if one can do the job on it's own?
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Omid Ashtari admits that the social location service needs to do more to win Brits round to social location
Foursquare is courting retailers, businesses and media companies in the UK in an effort to make its social location app more popular among British smartphone owners.
Business development executive Omid Ashtari, who is based in the UK, said at today's London Web Summit that "there's a different perception of Foursquare over here than in the US" and promised to change it.
"Brands and users haven't got enough love from us over here. That's why I'm here, to give everybody a lot of love!" said Ashtari. Those efforts are necessary: even at a tech-heavy conference like LWS, only 23 people had checked in halfway through the event.
Ashtari was speaking in a panel on "The future of mobile, local, social" alongside WPP Digital chief executive Mark Read; LivingSocial's managing director of the UK, Ireland and the Netherlands Peter Briffett; Kraft Foods' vice president of global digital and consumer engagement B. Bonin Bough; and Bookingbug chief executive Glenn Shoosmith.
One barrier to greater Foursquare takeup in the UK is a chicken-and-egg challenge: until more people are using social location apps, businesses – particularly small firms – may be wary of using them for marketing.
Yet discounts and loyalty campaigns from these kinds of businesses could be what gets more people to use Foursquare. Ashtari noted that more than 750,000 companies have claimed their businesses on Foursquare, getting access to check-in analytics and the ability to run Specials deals as a result.
"These are things which are really exciting and available for small and big merchants alike. It's just about getting the eyeballs on them. Foursquare is known as this check in and gamifications app, but we really want to change that and show people we provide real value to users."
Mobile is certainly becoming more important for the companies whose business models are based around offering local deals, like Groupon and LivingSocial. The latter's Briffett said that 22-23% of the company's global users are now interacting with LivingSocial from their phones.
"We're pushing out marketing [in LivingSocial's non-mobile business] but mobile is all about people coming to us and looking at our app," he said.
"We know from where we sit mobile is a huge piece… We've got local commerce in there, but for us the future is how do you make it social and get people to come back to it?"
Before working at Kraft, Bough headed up digital marketing for PepsiCo, where he ran an early test on Foursquare that encouraged people to check in at petrol stations to get a cheap deal on a drink and a bag of crisps. He then compared it with the same campaign using a tear-off coupon.
"We saw a 47% increase in purchases [of the bundle] in those stores with Foursquare," said Bough. "That's huge. Here we were able to build a loyalty relationship in-store at the point of sale. Every CPG [consumer packaged goods company] should be looking at mobile platforms as big as they can."
WPP's Read questioned whether businesses and brands risk getting drawn down a road of only marketing themselves based on discounts – a sentiment that his peers in the advertising industry would doubtless echo – but the panel also discussed whether recent privacy controversies around social and location apps would be a barrier to adoption from consumers.
"I think privacy will be the issue of our generation," said Bough. "We have a lot of major social network players who are skating around the issue of data ownership."
Foursquare was one of the apps scrutinised recently for uploading users' address books to its servers without asking permission, but Ashtari suggested that perceptions of privacy vary between generations.
"If you've gone through college during the time which Facebook existed, you have a completely different perception of privacy," he said, while stressing that Foursquare wants to "put privacy first", and also to convince people that checking in will provide more benefits than privacy worries.
"It's all about giving you the benefits of the data that we have in our database back. Saying okay, there are good things around the corner…"