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Labour conference faces 'fair' devolution call for Wales Labour conference faces 'fair' devolution call for Wales
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Labour politicians from Wales will urge party leaders to back a fair deal over funding and powers in any discussions on further devolution within the UK.Labour politicians from Wales will urge party leaders to back a fair deal over funding and powers in any discussions on further devolution within the UK.
Scotland's vote to reject independence will dominate the Labour conference beginning in Manchester on Sunday.Scotland's vote to reject independence will dominate the Labour conference beginning in Manchester on Sunday.
Party leader Ed Miliband has proposed a constitutional convention to discuss the future pattern of powers in the UK.Party leader Ed Miliband has proposed a constitutional convention to discuss the future pattern of powers in the UK.
First Minister Carwyn Jones has called for a "fair share" of Treasury funding and more power in matters like energy.First Minister Carwyn Jones has called for a "fair share" of Treasury funding and more power in matters like energy.
Mr Miliband told the Andrew Marr Show the Barnett formula is "oriented towards need" but critics have said it based on population rather than need and leaves Wales £300m worse off.
Shadow Welsh Secretary Owen Smith told the Sunday Politics Wales programme a UK Labour government would look to close the gap by adopting a "Barnett plus" formula.
Mr Smith said he wanted to see the Welsh government responsible for 15% of income tax if the people of Wales voted in a referendum to devolve tax-varying powers.
'Immensely complicated'
The major UK parties have promised to examine the prospect of further devolution for all the UK nations in the wake of the Scottish referendum.The major UK parties have promised to examine the prospect of further devolution for all the UK nations in the wake of the Scottish referendum.
Mr Jones has previously called for wide-ranging talks on devolution within the UK, including more powers for regions of England.Mr Jones has previously called for wide-ranging talks on devolution within the UK, including more powers for regions of England.
He told BBC Radio Wales on Saturday it was a "better fit" than a policy of "English votes for English laws" in the UK Parliament, as proposed by Prime Minister David Cameron.He told BBC Radio Wales on Saturday it was a "better fit" than a policy of "English votes for English laws" in the UK Parliament, as proposed by Prime Minister David Cameron.
The first minister said it would be "immensely complicated" to determine which laws only applied to England.The first minister said it would be "immensely complicated" to determine which laws only applied to England.
"It's either a parliament where all the MPs are equal or it's not," he added."It's either a parliament where all the MPs are equal or it's not," he added.
Former Labour first minister Rhodri Morgan has said Wales should be "rewarded, not penalised" for not putting the UK "through the mincer" of a vote on independence.Former Labour first minister Rhodri Morgan has said Wales should be "rewarded, not penalised" for not putting the UK "through the mincer" of a vote on independence.
Welsh Labour is also seeking a reassessment of what it calls Treasury underfunding of Wales to the tune of £300m under the so-called Barnett formula.