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New Zealand announces final shortlist for new flag design – as it unfurled | New Zealand announces final shortlist for new flag design – as it unfurled |
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Between three ferns (and a koru) | Between three ferns (and a koru) |
I just caught myself wondering if New Zealand really needs a flag, or if New Zealand even exists at all. I’m in the eye of the koru and it’s time to wrap this up. | I just caught myself wondering if New Zealand really needs a flag, or if New Zealand even exists at all. I’m in the eye of the koru and it’s time to wrap this up. |
So, the flag consideration panel has published its shortlist. What now? | So, the flag consideration panel has published its shortlist. What now? |
The public will be asked to rank the four designs in the first binding postal referendum this year, which will be held between 20 November and 11 December. | The public will be asked to rank the four designs in the first binding postal referendum this year, which will be held between 20 November and 11 December. |
This will determine a preferred alternative. | This will determine a preferred alternative. |
It is statistically likely to be a silver fern design. | It is statistically likely to be a silver fern design. |
The second binding postal referendum will be held in March next year. It will ask voters to choose between the fern (come on, let’s be real) and the current flag. | The second binding postal referendum will be held in March next year. It will ask voters to choose between the fern (come on, let’s be real) and the current flag. |
If the outcome is the new (fern) flag, it will be adopted six months after the decision is announced. | If the outcome is the new (fern) flag, it will be adopted six months after the decision is announced. |
It will be interesting to see which version of events is confirmed. | It will be interesting to see which version of events is confirmed. |
Guardian Australia will cover each stage of the process. | Guardian Australia will cover each stage of the process. |
In the meantime, a “hypnoflag” parody account has already been started on Twitter, and I am thinking about a message from a friend I received about 15 minutes ago, which said, “It is brave of you to run this live blog even though it should objectively be causing you permanent brain damage”. | In the meantime, a “hypnoflag” parody account has already been started on Twitter, and I am thinking about a message from a friend I received about 15 minutes ago, which said, “It is brave of you to run this live blog even though it should objectively be causing you permanent brain damage”. |
I AM THE ONE TRUE #HYPNOFLAG | I AM THE ONE TRUE #HYPNOFLAG |
Thanks for following along. | Thanks for following along. |
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Guardian writer Oliver Burkeman is one person who has been enthusiastically following the Flag Consideration Panel’s deliberations from the other side of the world. | Guardian writer Oliver Burkeman is one person who has been enthusiastically following the Flag Consideration Panel’s deliberations from the other side of the world. |
This was his pick. “This is the one that should win and I’ll be massively outraged for weeks on Twitter if it doesn’t (maybe),” he tweeted before the shortlist was announced. | This was his pick. “This is the one that should win and I’ll be massively outraged for weeks on Twitter if it doesn’t (maybe),” he tweeted before the shortlist was announced. |
pffft. none of the best ones https://t.co/xGNW9QoM0w | pffft. none of the best ones https://t.co/xGNW9QoM0w |
If I've learned one thing today it's that we each carry a unique New Zealand flag design, in our hearts | If I've learned one thing today it's that we each carry a unique New Zealand flag design, in our hearts |
Actually, yes! Make the new flag a mirror, like when Time magazine made YOU person of the year | Actually, yes! Make the new flag a mirror, like when Time magazine made YOU person of the year |
“He seems unusually concerned for someone who has zero connection to the story,” remarks my Guardian Australia colleague Claire Phipps. | “He seems unusually concerned for someone who has zero connection to the story,” remarks my Guardian Australia colleague Claire Phipps. |
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Before I wrap this up, let’s reminisce about the optimism we felt in the process’ earliest stages, when the new New Zealand flag could have been just about anything. | Before I wrap this up, let’s reminisce about the optimism we felt in the process’ earliest stages, when the new New Zealand flag could have been just about anything. |
Related: New Zealand's new flag: 15 quirky contenders | Related: New Zealand's new flag: 15 quirky contenders |
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The official correspondence from the Flag Consideration Panel is fairly sunny in spite of the outpouring of bile aimed at them on Twitter. They made this nice graphic thanking every New Zealander for their contribution to the process. Is it a Magic Eye? Put your nose to your monitor! Then let us know what you see in the comments! | The official correspondence from the Flag Consideration Panel is fairly sunny in spite of the outpouring of bile aimed at them on Twitter. They made this nice graphic thanking every New Zealander for their contribution to the process. Is it a Magic Eye? Put your nose to your monitor! Then let us know what you see in the comments! |
This is how the #nzflag panel thanked every person who submitted one of the 10,292 alternative designs pic.twitter.com/r1W9JUj3Pa | This is how the #nzflag panel thanked every person who submitted one of the 10,292 alternative designs pic.twitter.com/r1W9JUj3Pa |
But they haven’t publicised much in the way of details about how they reached their decision of the final four, beyond the following metrics: | But they haven’t publicised much in the way of details about how they reached their decision of the final four, beyond the following metrics: |
In appealing for alternative flag designs, the panel asked New Zealanders to share what they “stand for”. The findings of that stage of the process are a fascinating insight into Aotearoa (please excuse this text rendering of a word cloud). | In appealing for alternative flag designs, the panel asked New Zealanders to share what they “stand for”. The findings of that stage of the process are a fascinating insight into Aotearoa (please excuse this text rendering of a word cloud). |
Large sized words: | Large sized words: |
Medium sized words: | Medium sized words: |
Smaller words: | Smaller words: |
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New Zealanders be like: | New Zealanders be like: |
I made a gif for you @Hypnoflag pic.twitter.com/ebQSH3DSdU | I made a gif for you @Hypnoflag pic.twitter.com/ebQSH3DSdU |
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No take is hotter than that of Guardian Australia’s comment editor, Adam Brereton, and he’s just filed: | No take is hotter than that of Guardian Australia’s comment editor, Adam Brereton, and he’s just filed: |
ah yes, new zealand. the country with a big decision ahead of it: which bad flag design will the rest of the world ignore from now on | ah yes, new zealand. the country with a big decision ahead of it: which bad flag design will the rest of the world ignore from now on |
new zealand: we must choose a new symbol for our nation, to represent our people rest of the world: hush now adults are talking | new zealand: we must choose a new symbol for our nation, to represent our people rest of the world: hush now adults are talking |
the idea that you just summon a new symbol up out of a committee and suddenly everyone's into it is a bit odd | the idea that you just summon a new symbol up out of a committee and suddenly everyone's into it is a bit odd |
imagine going through all this effort to create a new flag for a country that should have been a state of australia anyway | imagine going through all this effort to create a new flag for a country that should have been a state of australia anyway |
i will do everything in my power to destroy new zealand's "like Australia, but nice and with better beer" image | i will do everything in my power to destroy new zealand's "like Australia, but nice and with better beer" image |
new zealand: you have made a powerful enemy this day | new zealand: you have made a powerful enemy this day |
new zealanders do not @ me unless it's to admit you stuffed up by not being a part of the commonwealth | new zealanders do not @ me unless it's to admit you stuffed up by not being a part of the commonwealth |
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As a New Zealand citizen I will be voting in the postal referendum in November or December. My own submission to the open gallery, way back in May, was rejected because it showed a person’s image and/or “is offensive or divisive”. | As a New Zealand citizen I will be voting in the postal referendum in November or December. My own submission to the open gallery, way back in May, was rejected because it showed a person’s image and/or “is offensive or divisive”. |
Vote for my NZ flag design, showing Lorde with silver ferns for eyes, rugby ball for a mouth, wearing a Bain sweater pic.twitter.com/V515eexwHL | Vote for my NZ flag design, showing Lorde with silver ferns for eyes, rugby ball for a mouth, wearing a Bain sweater pic.twitter.com/V515eexwHL |
It was nonetheless subsequently held up by a comedian on national New Zealand television as an example of how stupid New Zealanders can be, which I suppose is fair enough. | It was nonetheless subsequently held up by a comedian on national New Zealand television as an example of how stupid New Zealanders can be, which I suppose is fair enough. |
"My big fear is, New Zealanders are going to choose the wrong flag" pic.twitter.com/0qm9k5mKQf | "My big fear is, New Zealanders are going to choose the wrong flag" pic.twitter.com/0qm9k5mKQf |
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The New Zealand government thinks this may inform your decision, too. | The New Zealand government thinks this may inform your decision, too. |
How do you want New Zealand to be represented by arts graduates worldwide? Official images c/o the #nzflag panel pic.twitter.com/a2JEpVwd9X | How do you want New Zealand to be represented by arts graduates worldwide? Official images c/o the #nzflag panel pic.twitter.com/a2JEpVwd9X |
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This may inform your decision. | This may inform your decision. |
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Silver Fern (Black, White and Blue), designed by Kyle Lockwood | Silver Fern (Black, White and Blue), designed by Kyle Lockwood |
Fourth option for new NZ flag - second design on the shortlist from Kyle Lockwood @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/D99Bq2dpxg | Fourth option for new NZ flag - second design on the shortlist from Kyle Lockwood @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/D99Bq2dpxg |
The designer’s description: The silver fern: A New Zealand icon for over 160 years, worn proudly by many generations. The fern is an element of indigenous flora representing the growth of our nation. The multiple points of the fern leaf represent Aotearoa’s peaceful multicultural society, a single fern spreading upwards represents that we are all one people growing onward into the future. The bright blue represents our clear atmosphere and the Pacific Ocean, over which all New Zealanders, or their ancestors, crossed to get here. The Southern Cross represents our geographic location in the antipodes. It has been used as a navigational aid for centuries and it helped guide early settlers to our islands. | The designer’s description: The silver fern: A New Zealand icon for over 160 years, worn proudly by many generations. The fern is an element of indigenous flora representing the growth of our nation. The multiple points of the fern leaf represent Aotearoa’s peaceful multicultural society, a single fern spreading upwards represents that we are all one people growing onward into the future. The bright blue represents our clear atmosphere and the Pacific Ocean, over which all New Zealanders, or their ancestors, crossed to get here. The Southern Cross represents our geographic location in the antipodes. It has been used as a navigational aid for centuries and it helped guide early settlers to our islands. |
This blogger’s take: nuhrghghhgrghhjhgfghh | This blogger’s take: nuhrghghhgrghhjhgfghh |
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Koru, designed by Andrew Fyfe | Koru, designed by Andrew Fyfe |
Third contender for new NZ flag - Andrew Fyfe's Koru @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/0gAhuylLcC | Third contender for new NZ flag - Andrew Fyfe's Koru @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/0gAhuylLcC |
The designer’s description: As our flag unfurls, so too does its koru. The koru represents the fern frond, but is also reminiscent of a wave, a cloud, and a ram’s horn. In Māori kowhaiwhai patterns the koru represent new life, growth, strength and peace, and for this reason has taken a special place in Aotearoa’s visual language. | The designer’s description: As our flag unfurls, so too does its koru. The koru represents the fern frond, but is also reminiscent of a wave, a cloud, and a ram’s horn. In Māori kowhaiwhai patterns the koru represent new life, growth, strength and peace, and for this reason has taken a special place in Aotearoa’s visual language. |
This blogger’s take: It isn’t a fern! And John Key doesn’t like it. If you didn’t like John Key, maybe you would vote for this one. But, more likely, you’d just not vote at all. | This blogger’s take: It isn’t a fern! And John Key doesn’t like it. If you didn’t like John Key, maybe you would vote for this one. But, more likely, you’d just not vote at all. |
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Silver Fern (Red, White and Blue), designed by Kyle Lockwood | Silver Fern (Red, White and Blue), designed by Kyle Lockwood |
Second of the final four flag contenders @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/DbRvmp7pgJ | Second of the final four flag contenders @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/DbRvmp7pgJ |
The designer’s description: The silver fern: A New Zealand icon for over 160 years, worn proudly by many generations. The fern is an element of indigenous flora representing the growth of our nation. The multiple points of the fern leaf represent Aotearoa’s peaceful multicultural society, a single fern spreading upwards represents that we are all one people growing onward into the future. The red represents our heritage and sacrifices made. Blue represents our clear atmosphere and the Pacific Ocean, over which all New Zealanders, or their ancestors, crossed to get here. The Southern Cross represents our geographic location in the antipodes. It has been used as a navigational aid for centuries and it helped guide early settlers to our islands. | The designer’s description: The silver fern: A New Zealand icon for over 160 years, worn proudly by many generations. The fern is an element of indigenous flora representing the growth of our nation. The multiple points of the fern leaf represent Aotearoa’s peaceful multicultural society, a single fern spreading upwards represents that we are all one people growing onward into the future. The red represents our heritage and sacrifices made. Blue represents our clear atmosphere and the Pacific Ocean, over which all New Zealanders, or their ancestors, crossed to get here. The Southern Cross represents our geographic location in the antipodes. It has been used as a navigational aid for centuries and it helped guide early settlers to our islands. |
This blogger’s take: This is John Key’s preferred alternative because it has a fern on it and it doesn’t look like Isis’ flag. It invokes less a feeling of patriotism in me than a feeling of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | This blogger’s take: This is John Key’s preferred alternative because it has a fern on it and it doesn’t look like Isis’ flag. It invokes less a feeling of patriotism in me than a feeling of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
Also: | Also: |
No further comment... pic.twitter.com/Z8UbKDvhpF | No further comment... pic.twitter.com/Z8UbKDvhpF |
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Silver Fern (Black & White), designed by Alofi Kanter | Silver Fern (Black & White), designed by Alofi Kanter |
Enough dwelling on what could have been. Let’s find out a little bit more about the four flags that New Zealanders will rank in November or December (or not, whichever – there’s no compulsory voting). | Enough dwelling on what could have been. Let’s find out a little bit more about the four flags that New Zealanders will rank in November or December (or not, whichever – there’s no compulsory voting). |
First up: Silver Fern (Black & White), designed by Alofi Kanter | First up: Silver Fern (Black & White), designed by Alofi Kanter |
First of the final four #nzflag @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/aGf3ufeo7V | First of the final four #nzflag @NZStuff pic.twitter.com/aGf3ufeo7V |
The designer’s description: The fern has been a distinctive symbol of New Zealand for the past 100 years. Strong and simple, it represents our uniqueness as Aotearoa New Zealand and the black and white colours show our ‘yin and yang’, with the softly curved spine of the frond binding us all together as a young, independent and proud nation. Credit for the fern goes to The New Zealand Way Limited. | The designer’s description: The fern has been a distinctive symbol of New Zealand for the past 100 years. Strong and simple, it represents our uniqueness as Aotearoa New Zealand and the black and white colours show our ‘yin and yang’, with the softly curved spine of the frond binding us all together as a young, independent and proud nation. Credit for the fern goes to The New Zealand Way Limited. |
This blogger’s take: The silver fern is obviously an iconic symbol of New Zealand, and we already know it looks good on an All Blacks jersey, second only to the flag in terms of fabric representations of nationhood. I suspect that the fact it’s familiar, and John Key’s enthusiastic support for it, will be enough for it to come out on top in the first referendum. | This blogger’s take: The silver fern is obviously an iconic symbol of New Zealand, and we already know it looks good on an All Blacks jersey, second only to the flag in terms of fabric representations of nationhood. I suspect that the fact it’s familiar, and John Key’s enthusiastic support for it, will be enough for it to come out on top in the first referendum. |
But the fern is the logo of not only the All Blacks but also “The New Zealand Way Limited”, a joint venture company owned by New Zealand Trade and Enterprise and Tourism New Zealand. (You can read a very interesting academic paper (really) about the history of the silver fern brand here.) | But the fern is the logo of not only the All Blacks but also “The New Zealand Way Limited”, a joint venture company owned by New Zealand Trade and Enterprise and Tourism New Zealand. (You can read a very interesting academic paper (really) about the history of the silver fern brand here.) |
I might be being precious, but making it the flag seems a bit on-the-nose so far as national branding goes. Why not capitalise on our lively Lord of the Rings tourism industry and make the flag of The One Ring or a Hobbit-hole? | I might be being precious, but making it the flag seems a bit on-the-nose so far as national branding goes. Why not capitalise on our lively Lord of the Rings tourism industry and make the flag of The One Ring or a Hobbit-hole? |
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You wouldn’t know it to look at the final four, but it didn’t have to be this way: the flag consideration panel had more than 10,000 designs to choose from, many of which did not feature silver ferns or the Southern Cross. | You wouldn’t know it to look at the final four, but it didn’t have to be this way: the flag consideration panel had more than 10,000 designs to choose from, many of which did not feature silver ferns or the Southern Cross. |
No time to look at all 10,292 #NZflag designs? Don't worry, I did it for you. My long list. http://t.co/cyOYctcnWC pic.twitter.com/JN0XRx7gYN | No time to look at all 10,292 #NZflag designs? Don't worry, I did it for you. My long list. http://t.co/cyOYctcnWC pic.twitter.com/JN0XRx7gYN |
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The backlash about the final four seems aimed squarely at the process, rather than the designers. The lack of transparency about the panel’s decision-making, the absence of public consultation, and the resulting Hobson’s choice of mostly ferns seems to have soured people from both sides of the political spectrum on the process. | The backlash about the final four seems aimed squarely at the process, rather than the designers. The lack of transparency about the panel’s decision-making, the absence of public consultation, and the resulting Hobson’s choice of mostly ferns seems to have soured people from both sides of the political spectrum on the process. |
It’s hard to identify a clear favourite among the shortlist of four from the response on social media, especially given that three are so similar. Could the black-and-white koru be in with a shot given that it’s a) the only design without a (botanically incorrect) fern, and b) the only design that prime minister John Key doesn’t prefer to the current flag? | It’s hard to identify a clear favourite among the shortlist of four from the response on social media, especially given that three are so similar. Could the black-and-white koru be in with a shot given that it’s a) the only design without a (botanically incorrect) fern, and b) the only design that prime minister John Key doesn’t prefer to the current flag? |
“I don’t know if Kiwis care enough,” said my colleague (and New Zealand citizen) Shalailah Medhora. | “I don’t know if Kiwis care enough,” said my colleague (and New Zealand citizen) Shalailah Medhora. |
If you wanted to express your discontentment with the process, your other alternative would be not voting in the first referendum at all. | If you wanted to express your discontentment with the process, your other alternative would be not voting in the first referendum at all. |
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One person I’m holding in my thoughts today is the Sydney-based gentleman who emailed me when the longlist of designs was announced to point out that “the majority of the designs [are] botanically incorrect”, attaching both a drawing and a scan of a silver fern to make his point. “You would expect them to get right,” he said. | One person I’m holding in my thoughts today is the Sydney-based gentleman who emailed me when the longlist of designs was announced to point out that “the majority of the designs [are] botanically incorrect”, attaching both a drawing and a scan of a silver fern to make his point. “You would expect them to get right,” he said. |
A man once emailed me a scan of a silver fern to show how "the majority of the designs botanically incorrect" #nzflag pic.twitter.com/TgBie9NqdO | A man once emailed me a scan of a silver fern to show how "the majority of the designs botanically incorrect" #nzflag pic.twitter.com/TgBie9NqdO |
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It’s a big day for branding in New Zealand, with new banknote designs also announced today. They have been described as “funky”. | It’s a big day for branding in New Zealand, with new banknote designs also announced today. They have been described as “funky”. |
Funky new New Zealand #banknotes released https://t.co/eW4lyOc5Uv pic.twitter.com/4d1XzBXTy6 | Funky new New Zealand #banknotes released https://t.co/eW4lyOc5Uv pic.twitter.com/4d1XzBXTy6 |
Twitter isn’t happy with them, either. | Twitter isn’t happy with them, either. |
Between the banknotes and the 'final four' flags, this is a dark day in New Zealand design history. @standfornz @flagpostnz *massive sigh* | Between the banknotes and the 'final four' flags, this is a dark day in New Zealand design history. @standfornz @flagpostnz *massive sigh* |
Dear NZ Reserve Bank, your new #banknotes are a crime against design and sensibility. Please compare: pic.twitter.com/pic5reNsVW | Dear NZ Reserve Bank, your new #banknotes are a crime against design and sensibility. Please compare: pic.twitter.com/pic5reNsVW |
Banknotes that look like a granny's biscuit tin, flags that look like primary school project. Good luck selling NZ design now. | Banknotes that look like a granny's biscuit tin, flags that look like primary school project. Good luck selling NZ design now. |
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The Vortex flag and the final shot of the shower scene in Psycho. Uncanny. pic.twitter.com/bEMPjN4HYM | The Vortex flag and the final shot of the shower scene in Psycho. Uncanny. pic.twitter.com/bEMPjN4HYM |
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Allowing for the fact that New Zealanders on Twitter are not representative of New Zealanders as a whole, the reaction to the shortlisted four is overwhelmingly negative. There seems to be a sense that an opportunity was squandered and the population wasn’t listened to. | Allowing for the fact that New Zealanders on Twitter are not representative of New Zealanders as a whole, the reaction to the shortlisted four is overwhelmingly negative. There seems to be a sense that an opportunity was squandered and the population wasn’t listened to. |
The flag consideration panel did not consult with the public on either its longlist of 40 (39, if you disregard the one that breached copyright!) published two months ago, or the shortlist of four just announced. | The flag consideration panel did not consult with the public on either its longlist of 40 (39, if you disregard the one that breached copyright!) published two months ago, or the shortlist of four just announced. |
Has this entire process just been one long elaborate practical joke? That's the only way to explain the #NZflag shortlist. Utterly awful | Has this entire process just been one long elaborate practical joke? That's the only way to explain the #NZflag shortlist. Utterly awful |
What a farce that was. Money well spent, huh guys? #nzflag | What a farce that was. Money well spent, huh guys? #nzflag |
I actually want a new flag. Shame they squandered that opportunity #nzflag | I actually want a new flag. Shame they squandered that opportunity #nzflag |
We should have just gone with "We love the All Blacks" in comic sans with a smiley face emoji #NZFlag | We should have just gone with "We love the All Blacks" in comic sans with a smiley face emoji #NZFlag |
Still, every cloud: | Still, every cloud: |
the only thing to look forward to is @iamjohnoliver's reaction #nzflag | the only thing to look forward to is @iamjohnoliver's reaction #nzflag |
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The final four: same, same, bit different | The final four: same, same, bit different |
These are the final four flags that New Zealanders will be asked to rank in a postal referendum later this year. As far as I am aware, “none of the above” will not be an option, despite clear calls for it from Twitter commentators. | These are the final four flags that New Zealanders will be asked to rank in a postal referendum later this year. As far as I am aware, “none of the above” will not be an option, despite clear calls for it from Twitter commentators. |
Here are the official images showing the final four flag referendum choices in flight: #nzflag pic.twitter.com/2MOasBbia2 | Here are the official images showing the final four flag referendum choices in flight: #nzflag pic.twitter.com/2MOasBbia2 |
The preferred fern design (let’s be real here) will then be deemed the “preferred alternative”. Early next year, the public will vote whether they’d rather it or the current flag they know and love (or, at least, now newly appreciate). | The preferred fern design (let’s be real here) will then be deemed the “preferred alternative”. Early next year, the public will vote whether they’d rather it or the current flag they know and love (or, at least, now newly appreciate). |
Here they are flying in all their glory. Or, lack thereof #nzflag pic.twitter.com/QskRdoRqxd | Here they are flying in all their glory. Or, lack thereof #nzflag pic.twitter.com/QskRdoRqxd |
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