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Labor supports airstrikes against Islamic State in Syria – politics live Labor supports airstrikes against Islamic State in Syria – politics live
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Good night you good thingsGood night you good things
I think that will be our serve for today. Thank you very much for your company, you’ve been marvellous.I think that will be our serve for today. Thank you very much for your company, you’ve been marvellous.
Let’s wrap Wednesday.Let’s wrap Wednesday.
There was more, but that’s the main business. Have a lovely evening. We’ll be back, bright eyed and bushy tailed, tomorrow morning.There was more, but that’s the main business. Have a lovely evening. We’ll be back, bright eyed and bushy tailed, tomorrow morning.
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In the event you’d like to watch Nick McKim’s first speech, here’s some video.In the event you’d like to watch Nick McKim’s first speech, here’s some video.
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A lovely sequence in the ‘welcome to Canberra’ ritual that follows first speeches.A lovely sequence in the ‘welcome to Canberra’ ritual that follows first speeches.
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The prime minister has zipped for the Pacific Islands Forum but recorded an interview with the ABC’s 7.30 program before departure.The prime minister has zipped for the Pacific Islands Forum but recorded an interview with the ABC’s 7.30 program before departure.
WATCH PM @TonyAbbottMHR's response on handling of the 'budget emergency'. See the full interview on #abc730. #auspol https://t.co/C0BgLWr6H6WATCH PM @TonyAbbottMHR's response on handling of the 'budget emergency'. See the full interview on #abc730. #auspol https://t.co/C0BgLWr6H6
Here’s a little teaser.Here’s a little teaser.
Host Leigh Sales asks the prime minister why he hasn’t fixed the budget emergency given he was elected on that platform.Host Leigh Sales asks the prime minister why he hasn’t fixed the budget emergency given he was elected on that platform.
Tony Abbott:Tony Abbott:
Well I don’t accept that. The boats have stopped ...Well I don’t accept that. The boats have stopped ...
Q: We are talking about the economy ..Q: We are talking about the economy ..
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Shalailah MedhoraShalailah Medhora
The Senate has this evening shot down the government’s attempts to make jobseekers under the age of 25 wait an additional four weeks before accessing unemployment payments. Labor and the Greens were against the bill, meaning that the government needed the support of six of the eight crossbenchers to pass it. The majority of the crossbenchers opposed the four-week waiting period and blocked it in the Senate.The Senate has this evening shot down the government’s attempts to make jobseekers under the age of 25 wait an additional four weeks before accessing unemployment payments. Labor and the Greens were against the bill, meaning that the government needed the support of six of the eight crossbenchers to pass it. The majority of the crossbenchers opposed the four-week waiting period and blocked it in the Senate.
The social services minister, Scott Morrison, on Wednesday pledged to stick by the bill. “We remain absolutely committed to the measures we’ve brought to the Parliament on this issue,” Morrison told reporters in Canberra. “We do not believe that we should be sending a message to young people that it should be ok to go from the school gate to the Centrelink front door, and that’s why we’re bringing these measures. Labor and others may choose to oppose that, and that is their democratic right,” the minister continued. “The Coalition remains absolutely committed to this policy.”The social services minister, Scott Morrison, on Wednesday pledged to stick by the bill. “We remain absolutely committed to the measures we’ve brought to the Parliament on this issue,” Morrison told reporters in Canberra. “We do not believe that we should be sending a message to young people that it should be ok to go from the school gate to the Centrelink front door, and that’s why we’re bringing these measures. Labor and others may choose to oppose that, and that is their democratic right,” the minister continued. “The Coalition remains absolutely committed to this policy.”
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A coincidence of scheduling, but at the same time as McKim’s first speech fellow Tasmanian Andrew Nikolic, the Liberal MP, is shouting in the other chamber about greens and their litigious activist mates. The House is considering the government’s changes to environmental regulations.A coincidence of scheduling, but at the same time as McKim’s first speech fellow Tasmanian Andrew Nikolic, the Liberal MP, is shouting in the other chamber about greens and their litigious activist mates. The House is considering the government’s changes to environmental regulations.
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There’s a long ode to Tasmania from McKim: Tasmanians have space, supportive communities, safe public places, craft beer, honey, jobs in the digital and creative economies – a state which will be powered by renewable energy by 2020 – a place where you can go for a surf after work or a walk in the bush. Tasmanians have fought to protect our assets, he says, and they will go on fighting. The sustainable century is Tasmania’s time.There’s a long ode to Tasmania from McKim: Tasmanians have space, supportive communities, safe public places, craft beer, honey, jobs in the digital and creative economies – a state which will be powered by renewable energy by 2020 – a place where you can go for a surf after work or a walk in the bush. Tasmanians have fought to protect our assets, he says, and they will go on fighting. The sustainable century is Tasmania’s time.
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Nick McKim’s contribution is an interesting speech thus far, spanning political leadership, the sharing economy, refugees, marriage equality, climate change (we must keep the coal in the ground and reintroduce a price on carbon. We must reject the false choice between jobs and environmental protection.) Family violence. (There is an epidemic of men’s violence. Violence against women is a problem caused by men and it won’t be solved until we men man up and take responsibility.) A lack of corporate social responsibility. He notes the madness of politics over time handing power from the chambers of democracy to unaccountable boardrooms.Nick McKim’s contribution is an interesting speech thus far, spanning political leadership, the sharing economy, refugees, marriage equality, climate change (we must keep the coal in the ground and reintroduce a price on carbon. We must reject the false choice between jobs and environmental protection.) Family violence. (There is an epidemic of men’s violence. Violence against women is a problem caused by men and it won’t be solved until we men man up and take responsibility.) A lack of corporate social responsibility. He notes the madness of politics over time handing power from the chambers of democracy to unaccountable boardrooms.
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Nick McKim, who has replaced the former Greens leader Christine Milne in the senate, is making his first speech this evening. That’s getting underway now.Nick McKim, who has replaced the former Greens leader Christine Milne in the senate, is making his first speech this evening. That’s getting underway now.
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My colleague Lenore Taylor has been to a background briefing with senior officials on the resettlement program. The main points from that are:My colleague Lenore Taylor has been to a background briefing with senior officials on the resettlement program. The main points from that are:
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Stephen Conroy says Australia’s mission is not about the Assad regime. It is about disrupting and degrading Isis forces in defence of the people of Iraq. He says what happens in Syria over the long term is a function of a major diplomatic effort by key global powers, including Russia.Stephen Conroy says Australia’s mission is not about the Assad regime. It is about disrupting and degrading Isis forces in defence of the people of Iraq. He says what happens in Syria over the long term is a function of a major diplomatic effort by key global powers, including Russia.
We shouldn’t try and think that our intervention across the border is going to resolve any of those issues.We shouldn’t try and think that our intervention across the border is going to resolve any of those issues.
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The shadow defence minister Stephen Conroy is on Sky News now being quizzed about Labor’s position. Labor used to be concerned about the legal basis for military action in Syria, but not now.The shadow defence minister Stephen Conroy is on Sky News now being quizzed about Labor’s position. Labor used to be concerned about the legal basis for military action in Syria, but not now.
Conroy:Conroy:
We’re comfortable. We’ve talked to some independent legal experts and we’ve taken advice from the government.We’re comfortable. We’ve talked to some independent legal experts and we’ve taken advice from the government.
We are comfortable that the legal foundation is there.We are comfortable that the legal foundation is there.
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Daniel HurstDaniel Hurst
Just a bit more on Labor’s special caucus meeting this afternoon to discuss Syrian military action. It began at 1.15pm, so there wasn’t much time before question time at 2pm to lock in Labor’s position. One caucus member who raised concerns about the expansion of the mission said the meeting was “subdued” because people acknowledged it was a difficult situation: “People came down on either side but at the end of the day a decision was made and we live with it.”Just a bit more on Labor’s special caucus meeting this afternoon to discuss Syrian military action. It began at 1.15pm, so there wasn’t much time before question time at 2pm to lock in Labor’s position. One caucus member who raised concerns about the expansion of the mission said the meeting was “subdued” because people acknowledged it was a difficult situation: “People came down on either side but at the end of the day a decision was made and we live with it.”
The meeting began with speeches by the Labor leader, Bill Shorten, and the foreign affairs spokeswoman, Tanya Plibersek.The meeting began with speeches by the Labor leader, Bill Shorten, and the foreign affairs spokeswoman, Tanya Plibersek.
It is understood at least seven MPs expressed concerns, including Melissa Parke, Doug Cameron, Alannah MacTiernan, Jill Hall, Andrew Giles, Pat Conroy and Sue Lines.It is understood at least seven MPs expressed concerns, including Melissa Parke, Doug Cameron, Alannah MacTiernan, Jill Hall, Andrew Giles, Pat Conroy and Sue Lines.
Shorten gave voice to some of those concerns in his subsequent speech to parliament, when the Labor leader pledged support for the mission but sought a number of assurances including a better explanation of the long-term strategy for the Middle East and notification of the UN security council.Shorten gave voice to some of those concerns in his subsequent speech to parliament, when the Labor leader pledged support for the mission but sought a number of assurances including a better explanation of the long-term strategy for the Middle East and notification of the UN security council.
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Shalailah MedhoraShalailah Medhora
He’s on a roll. Coalition backbencher, George Christensen, has this afternoon defended his comments that Syrian Christians should get preference in any refugee resettlement. “We don’t have Christians that are willing to wage Jihad on Australia,” Christensen told Sky News. He said that newly resettled refugees should be subject to a “values test”.“If they actively say to someone, ‘I believe Sharia should be the law of the land’, and ‘your government should be overturned and they are all infidels’, well maybe they should seek a Muslim country to repatriate in, or to seek refuge in,” Christensen said.He’s on a roll. Coalition backbencher, George Christensen, has this afternoon defended his comments that Syrian Christians should get preference in any refugee resettlement. “We don’t have Christians that are willing to wage Jihad on Australia,” Christensen told Sky News. He said that newly resettled refugees should be subject to a “values test”.“If they actively say to someone, ‘I believe Sharia should be the law of the land’, and ‘your government should be overturned and they are all infidels’, well maybe they should seek a Muslim country to repatriate in, or to seek refuge in,” Christensen said.
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That toggle and chase was not entirely elegant, so I didn’t quite catch Liberal MP Philip Ruddock’s contribution in the MPI debate. In the event you’d like to catch up, here’s some video.That toggle and chase was not entirely elegant, so I didn’t quite catch Liberal MP Philip Ruddock’s contribution in the MPI debate. In the event you’d like to catch up, here’s some video.
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Moderate boilover at special caucus meeting
Now apologies for misleading you earlier. I said the issue of Syria had not gone to the Labor caucus. I was wrong. There was a special caucus meeting today held to consider Labor’s position on the military deployment.
A number of MPs expressed reservations about Labor supporting the government: Melissa Parke, Doug Cameron, Alannah MacTiernan, Jill Hall, Andrew Giles, Pat Conroy, Sue Lines.
In general terms the concerns from Labor folks ranged from the lack of UN sanction for the action, concern about the objectives of the mission, the legalities – all the things you’d expect to be raised.
Shorten has evidently pressed ahead in any case.
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Just for the record.
The #Senate did not agree to suspend its standing orders. Normal business now resumes
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Plibersek says Bill Shorten has already indicated Labor will support the extension of military action into Syria, but we need to be realistic.
There is no simple solution to the problems in Syria. There must be a political solution that we play our part in delivering, and there must be a greater humanitarian response from the world.
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Sorry I missed the tail end of Julie Bishop in the toggle between the two chambers, but there wasn’t new information. It was a snapshot of actions to date.
Labor’s deputy leader Tanya Plibersek is speaking now. She’s welcoming today’s announcements concerning humanitarian relief, but she’s bemoaning the absence of action over recent years when the conflict was escalating.
Why has it taken Australia so long?
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Shalailah Medhora
The Greens motion calling for a debate in parliament on military action in Syria is doomed to fail, with both the government and Labor set to vote it down.
Government Senate leader, Eric Abetz, said that “the last thing that Australian service men and women need is the “strategic input of the Australian Greens”.
“Sometimes evil has to be fought with force,” Abetz added, referring to the influence of Isis.
Shadow defence minister, Stephen Conroy, acknowledged that there needs to be a parliamentary discussion on military involvement, but pushed this afternoon instead for reports from the defence minister. “It’s been a while since we’ve had a regular update from the minister,” Conroy told the chamber.
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The foreign minister Julie Bishop is taking her turn in the debate. She’s outlining the government’s various policies on Syria and Iraq.
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"It is not our role to weigh one human soul against another" says Bill Shorten, but help those most in need"regardless of who they pray to."
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Back to the House, Shorten thus far is working through the dot points he gave us at the start of question time. I’ll post them again, just in case you are only now tuning in.
Shorten notes the nation is not of one mind when it comes to military action in Syria. But he says this action, in 2015, is different from other actions in the Middle East in the past.
This is not the second gulf war and we are not in Iraq seeking regime change.
He says Australia should not undertake this deployment for alliance management alone (he means just to please the United States.) He says the goal has to be the betterment of humanity.
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Shalailah Medhora
Over in the Senate meanwhile, the Greens are moving a motion to suspend standing orders in order to bring on debate about Australia’s military involvement in Syria. Specifically, the party wants parliamentary approval as mandatory before troops are deployed overseas. “This should not be a captain’s call,” Greens leader Richard Di Natale told the chamber.
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If you were wanting a parliamentary debate about Syria, don’t despair. The Labor leader Bill Shorten is about to expand on his thinking on this subject now, in the matter of public importance.