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MI5 boss warns of technology terror risk MI5 boss warns of technology terror risk
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Advances in technology are allowing terrorists to communicate "out of the reach of authorities", the head of MI5, Andrew Parker has told the BBC.Advances in technology are allowing terrorists to communicate "out of the reach of authorities", the head of MI5, Andrew Parker has told the BBC.
The serving boss of the UK's home security agency told Today it was becoming more difficult to obtain online information.The serving boss of the UK's home security agency told Today it was becoming more difficult to obtain online information.
He said internet companies had an "ethical responsibility" to alert agencies to potential threats.He said internet companies had an "ethical responsibility" to alert agencies to potential threats.
But MI5 was not about "browsing the lives" of the public, he added.But MI5 was not about "browsing the lives" of the public, he added.
Ministers are preparing legislation on the powers for carrying out electronic surveillance.Ministers are preparing legislation on the powers for carrying out electronic surveillance.
But Mr Parker, in the first live interview by a serving MI5 boss, said what should be included in new legislation was a matter "for parliament to decide". But Mr Parker, in the first live interview by a serving MI5 boss, said what should be included in new legislation was a matter "for Parliament to decide".
Meanwhile, a highly critical report from David Anderson QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, warns forthcoming separate legislation to ban extremism could provoke a damaging backlash in Muslim communities.Meanwhile, a highly critical report from David Anderson QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, warns forthcoming separate legislation to ban extremism could provoke a damaging backlash in Muslim communities.
The lawyer said in his annual report that if the new laws were too widely drawn, they could play into the hands of people trying to encourage extremism and terrorism.The lawyer said in his annual report that if the new laws were too widely drawn, they could play into the hands of people trying to encourage extremism and terrorism.
Surveillance threats
Mr Parker also told the BBC:Mr Parker also told the BBC:
He said online data encryption was creating a situation where the police and intelligence agencies "can no longer obtain under proper legal warrant the communication of people they believe to be terrorists".He said online data encryption was creating a situation where the police and intelligence agencies "can no longer obtain under proper legal warrant the communication of people they believe to be terrorists".
It was a "very serious" issue, he said, adding: "It's in nobody's interests that terrorists should be able to plot and communicate out of the reach of authorities."It was a "very serious" issue, he said, adding: "It's in nobody's interests that terrorists should be able to plot and communicate out of the reach of authorities."
AnalysisAnalysis
by Gordon Corera, BBC security correspondentby Gordon Corera, BBC security correspondent
A live interview by a serving head of MI5 is unprecedented. So why now?A live interview by a serving head of MI5 is unprecedented. So why now?
The overall context is a terrorist threat that MI5 says is growing, technological change - which MI5 says is making life harder for them - and recent concerns over privacy and surveillance.The overall context is a terrorist threat that MI5 says is growing, technological change - which MI5 says is making life harder for them - and recent concerns over privacy and surveillance.
The specific timing is due to the upcoming political debate about surveillance powers.The specific timing is due to the upcoming political debate about surveillance powers.
The current system governing the way in which Britain's spies and law enforcement collect data and intercept communications is due a major overhaul - that has been made clear by a number of major reports, most importantly that by David Anderson QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation.The current system governing the way in which Britain's spies and law enforcement collect data and intercept communications is due a major overhaul - that has been made clear by a number of major reports, most importantly that by David Anderson QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation.
The government has made clear a new investigatory powers bill is expected in the next month or two and Andrew Parker and others are keen to make their case ahead of that.The government has made clear a new investigatory powers bill is expected in the next month or two and Andrew Parker and others are keen to make their case ahead of that.
Past attempts to increase their powers were dubbed "the snoopers' charter" and failed but the next bill is likely to be very different - providing increased accountability and oversight as well as looking at what capabilities are needed.Past attempts to increase their powers were dubbed "the snoopers' charter" and failed but the next bill is likely to be very different - providing increased accountability and oversight as well as looking at what capabilities are needed.
The question of whether new legislation will simply maintain existing capabilities against a backdrop of technological change or actually provide new powers will not be clear until the detail is revealed.The question of whether new legislation will simply maintain existing capabilities against a backdrop of technological change or actually provide new powers will not be clear until the detail is revealed.
But Andrew Parker's argument is that it's getting harder for his service to do what they have always done.But Andrew Parker's argument is that it's getting harder for his service to do what they have always done.
One reason is that much of the communications material the spies need is held abroad, often by American tech companies, and he made clear he would like more co-operation from them.One reason is that much of the communications material the spies need is held abroad, often by American tech companies, and he made clear he would like more co-operation from them.
There is recognition from the security and intelligence services that justifying their intrusive capabilities in the modern world will require much more transparency.There is recognition from the security and intelligence services that justifying their intrusive capabilities in the modern world will require much more transparency.
And that openness may be provided not just by legislation but also by speaking publicly and even coming into a BBC studio.And that openness may be provided not just by legislation but also by speaking publicly and even coming into a BBC studio.
Mr Parker said the shape of the threat had changed "because of the internet and the way terrorists use social media".Mr Parker said the shape of the threat had changed "because of the internet and the way terrorists use social media".
He said they were using secure and encrypted apps and the internet to "broadcast their message and incite terrorism among people who live here".He said they were using secure and encrypted apps and the internet to "broadcast their message and incite terrorism among people who live here".
"Most of the people who try to become involved in terrorism in this country are born and brought up here, come through our education system", he said. But they had "decided the country of their birth is their enemy"."Most of the people who try to become involved in terrorism in this country are born and brought up here, come through our education system", he said. But they had "decided the country of their birth is their enemy".
The MI5 chief said there was a question of the ethical responsibility of companies like Facebook and Twitter to alert the authorities regarding information about terrorism, child sex exploitation and other criminal activity.The MI5 chief said there was a question of the ethical responsibility of companies like Facebook and Twitter to alert the authorities regarding information about terrorism, child sex exploitation and other criminal activity.
Profile: Andrew ParkerProfile: Andrew Parker
"I think there is a real question about companies who hold that information under what arrangements they should come forward and report it," he said."I think there is a real question about companies who hold that information under what arrangements they should come forward and report it," he said.
He also rejected the suggestion that MI5 tactics led to the radicalisation of targets and played down fears about extremists entering Europe among the thousands of refugees from Syria.He also rejected the suggestion that MI5 tactics led to the radicalisation of targets and played down fears about extremists entering Europe among the thousands of refugees from Syria.