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| Liam Byrne praises Corbyn as 'craft ale of the Labour movement' - Politics live | Liam Byrne praises Corbyn as 'craft ale of the Labour movement' - Politics live |
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| My colleague Patrick Wintour says Labour members are trying to get an emergency motion debated at next week’s conference that would commit the party to opposing air strikes against Islamic State in Syria without UN authorisation. | |
| Emergency motion on Syria circulating for Labour conference rejecting UK air strikes without explicit UN authorisation, & other conditions. | |
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| Two Green politicians, Caroline Lucas and Jenny Jones, have also joined up with the human rights charity Reprieve to pursue a legal challenge against the government over its decision to target Islamic State terrorists in Syria despite parliament refusing approval for airstrikes. | |
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| The Green party conference starts tomorrow. Amelia Womack, the deputy leader, has announced that the party will be asking members who attend to contribute money for refugees at Calais. | |
| 9.56am BST09:56 | 9.56am BST09:56 |
| Here is some Twitter reaction to Liam Byrne’s interview. | Here is some Twitter reaction to Liam Byrne’s interview. |
| Deborah Mattinson, a former Labour pollster, says being associated with a “craft beer” is actually a liability. | Deborah Mattinson, a former Labour pollster, says being associated with a “craft beer” is actually a liability. |
| Useful LiamByrneMP report but ironic that he describes Corbyn as 'craft beer' (authentic). Voters use same term for Labour's 'poncification' | Useful LiamByrneMP report but ironic that he describes Corbyn as 'craft beer' (authentic). Voters use same term for Labour's 'poncification' |
| David Aaronovitch, the Times columnist and no Corbyn fan (to put it mildly), found Byrne’s defence of Corbyn unconvincing. | David Aaronovitch, the Times columnist and no Corbyn fan (to put it mildly), found Byrne’s defence of Corbyn unconvincing. |
| The New Politics was not obvious in the mangled logic and obvious evasiveness of @LiamByrneMP's defence of Mr Corbyn on @BBCr4today. | The New Politics was not obvious in the mangled logic and obvious evasiveness of @LiamByrneMP's defence of Mr Corbyn on @BBCr4today. |
| But Byrne has launched a Twitter meme. | But Byrne has launched a Twitter meme. |
| Ok, if Corbyn is 'craft ale' we need more #LabourDrinks | Ok, if Corbyn is 'craft ale' we need more #LabourDrinks |
| @DavidPrescott I would have thought @johnprescott would have to be some sort of punch #LabourDrinks | @DavidPrescott I would have thought @johnprescott would have to be some sort of punch #LabourDrinks |
| Chateau Charles Clarke. A full bodied Red Whine #LabourDrinks | Chateau Charles Clarke. A full bodied Red Whine #LabourDrinks |
| Tristram Shandy obviously. And a chukka umunna would be a not very strong cocktail with a little umbrella in it #LabourDrinks | Tristram Shandy obviously. And a chukka umunna would be a not very strong cocktail with a little umbrella in it #LabourDrinks |
| 9.29am BST09:29 | 9.29am BST09:29 |
| Liam Byrne's Today interview - Summary | Liam Byrne's Today interview - Summary |
| I’ve already posted Liam Byrne’s quote about how Jeremy Corbyn could help Labour win back power because he is seen as distinctive, as a “craft ale of the Labour movement”. (See 9.08am.) Here are some other lines from his Today interview. | I’ve already posted Liam Byrne’s quote about how Jeremy Corbyn could help Labour win back power because he is seen as distinctive, as a “craft ale of the Labour movement”. (See 9.08am.) Here are some other lines from his Today interview. |
| We found that voters really didn’t know any more who Labour stood for. We had lots of people who just thought that we had lost touch with our roots, we had lost our soul, and they just weren’t sure what to make of us. And I’m afraid that went alongside distrust of our record and our plans. | We found that voters really didn’t know any more who Labour stood for. We had lots of people who just thought that we had lost touch with our roots, we had lost our soul, and they just weren’t sure what to make of us. And I’m afraid that went alongside distrust of our record and our plans. |
| What we heard from people is that Labour had lost touch with its roots, Labour had lost touch with the people it had stood for. Now, you’ve got to put alongside that a plan, a bold vision for how, actually, Labour owns the future. So one of the biggest things that I think came through the report is the sense that we didn’t have a plan for business, we didn’t have a plan on the economy. And, actually, if Labour’s going to win a majority in England, we’ve got to be the party of the self-employed, of entrepreneurs, of high-tech jobs with policies, yes, for the people that we’re in politics to change things for but also for the kind of jobs for the future. | What we heard from people is that Labour had lost touch with its roots, Labour had lost touch with the people it had stood for. Now, you’ve got to put alongside that a plan, a bold vision for how, actually, Labour owns the future. So one of the biggest things that I think came through the report is the sense that we didn’t have a plan for business, we didn’t have a plan on the economy. And, actually, if Labour’s going to win a majority in England, we’ve got to be the party of the self-employed, of entrepreneurs, of high-tech jobs with policies, yes, for the people that we’re in politics to change things for but also for the kind of jobs for the future. |
| I’ve taken the quotes from PoliticsHome. | I’ve taken the quotes from PoliticsHome. |
| 9.08am BST09:08 | 9.08am BST09:08 |
| The space on the bookshelf set aside for reports on why Labour lost the general election is already getting quite full, and today we’ve got another to add to the collection. It’s from Red Shift, a group that includes Liam Byrne, the former chief secretary to the Treasury, Heidi Alexander, the new shadow health secretary, Shabana Mahmood, the former shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, Nic Dakin, the shadow education minister, and Caroline Badley, a Birmingham councillor. | The space on the bookshelf set aside for reports on why Labour lost the general election is already getting quite full, and today we’ve got another to add to the collection. It’s from Red Shift, a group that includes Liam Byrne, the former chief secretary to the Treasury, Heidi Alexander, the new shadow health secretary, Shabana Mahmood, the former shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, Nic Dakin, the shadow education minister, and Caroline Badley, a Birmingham councillor. |
| The report proposes 10 “shifts” that Labour needs to achieve to win back England. | The report proposes 10 “shifts” that Labour needs to achieve to win back England. |
| It is very critical of Ed Miliband’s “one nation” Labour strategy. | It is very critical of Ed Miliband’s “one nation” Labour strategy. |
| When Ed Miliband tried ‘One Nation’ it was doomed. | When Ed Miliband tried ‘One Nation’ it was doomed. |
| The policies did not reflect the brand. One Nation became a label not a policy prospectus. | The policies did not reflect the brand. One Nation became a label not a policy prospectus. |
| The One Nation pamphlet – a collection of essays by new MPs published at Conference 2013 – illustrates the point. Designed to show the direction of travel for a new philosophy, it was in fact merely an interesting collection of personal essays by MPs into which the words ‘One Nation’ were inserted to boost the One Nation brand. | The One Nation pamphlet – a collection of essays by new MPs published at Conference 2013 – illustrates the point. Designed to show the direction of travel for a new philosophy, it was in fact merely an interesting collection of personal essays by MPs into which the words ‘One Nation’ were inserted to boost the One Nation brand. |
| But it was brand rooted in nothing. | But it was brand rooted in nothing. |
| Byrne is seen as being on the right of Labour, and he backed Yvette Cooper for the Labour leadership, so you would expect him to be sceptical of Jeremy Corbyn. But when he was asked on the Today programme this morning whether Corbyn could help Labour to regain power, he said he could. | Byrne is seen as being on the right of Labour, and he backed Yvette Cooper for the Labour leadership, so you would expect him to be sceptical of Jeremy Corbyn. But when he was asked on the Today programme this morning whether Corbyn could help Labour to regain power, he said he could. |
| I think he can definitely start us on the route back, because one of the things that people said to us is ‘look, we don’t know who you stand for, you used to stand for the man and woman in the street, you used to stand for the people’. And actually what I think Jeremy has done is he’s brought a bit of soul force back to the Labour party. In many ways he is the kind of craft ale of the Labour movement – he’s authentic, he’s got strong flavours, he’s seen as something very different to the bland mediocrity of politics. | I think he can definitely start us on the route back, because one of the things that people said to us is ‘look, we don’t know who you stand for, you used to stand for the man and woman in the street, you used to stand for the people’. And actually what I think Jeremy has done is he’s brought a bit of soul force back to the Labour party. In many ways he is the kind of craft ale of the Labour movement – he’s authentic, he’s got strong flavours, he’s seen as something very different to the bland mediocrity of politics. |
| The full 29-page Red Shift report is here (pdf). And there is a good summary here, on the Staggers website. | The full 29-page Red Shift report is here (pdf). And there is a good summary here, on the Staggers website. |
| I will be posting more from Byrne’s interview and from the report itself this morning, as well as looking at the reaction it is generating. | I will be posting more from Byrne’s interview and from the report itself this morning, as well as looking at the reaction it is generating. |
| As usual, I will also be covering breaking political news as it happens, as well as bringing you the best reaction, comment and analysis from the web. I will post a summary at lunchtime. | As usual, I will also be covering breaking political news as it happens, as well as bringing you the best reaction, comment and analysis from the web. I will post a summary at lunchtime. |
| If you want to follow me or contact me on Twitter, I’m on@AndrewSparrow. | If you want to follow me or contact me on Twitter, I’m on@AndrewSparrow. |
| Corbyn "craft ale of Labour movement. He's authentic, he has strong flavours," @LiamByrneMP: http://t.co/rxPG0I0r8l pic.twitter.com/YEXJstpWI2 | Corbyn "craft ale of Labour movement. He's authentic, he has strong flavours," @LiamByrneMP: http://t.co/rxPG0I0r8l pic.twitter.com/YEXJstpWI2 |
| Updated at 9.19am BST | Updated at 9.19am BST |