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| Pope in Philadelphia: message of love says family is the 'future' of church – as it happened | Pope in Philadelphia: message of love says family is the 'future' of church – as it happened |
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| Religious liberty and the family as a factory of hope: Saturday with Pope Francis | Religious liberty and the family as a factory of hope: Saturday with Pope Francis |
| Adam Brereton | Adam Brereton |
| And that’s a wrap for the penultimate day of the pontiff’s US tour. Here’s the top lines: | And that’s a wrap for the penultimate day of the pontiff’s US tour. Here’s the top lines: |
| Thanks for joining us again on the Guardian PopeBlog and we’ll see you again tomorrow for the final day. The centerpiece of the whole tour, a mega-mass tipped to host almost a million parishioners, will take place tomorrow. Francis will also visit a prison, and is expected to address race issues. It should be an exciting conclusion to what has been a very densely-packed tour. Until then. | Thanks for joining us again on the Guardian PopeBlog and we’ll see you again tomorrow for the final day. The centerpiece of the whole tour, a mega-mass tipped to host almost a million parishioners, will take place tomorrow. Francis will also visit a prison, and is expected to address race issues. It should be an exciting conclusion to what has been a very densely-packed tour. Until then. |
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| From Catholic comedian Jim Gaffigan, Pope Francis’s warm-up act: | From Catholic comedian Jim Gaffigan, Pope Francis’s warm-up act: |
| My mother-in-law meeting THE POPE. Check mate. pic.twitter.com/FFy8AHi3S5 | My mother-in-law meeting THE POPE. Check mate. pic.twitter.com/FFy8AHi3S5 |
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| Anthea Butler | Anthea Butler |
| Guardian US opinion contributor and University of Pennsylvania associate professor of religious studies and Africana studies Anthea Butler is stopping by Day 8 of our live coverage of the Francis visit. | Guardian US opinion contributor and University of Pennsylvania associate professor of religious studies and Africana studies Anthea Butler is stopping by Day 8 of our live coverage of the Francis visit. |
| We’ve been asking the question for hours: how far will the pope go to appease hard-right Catholics on this, a day that’s all about the family? Some strong words from the professor below about that word the pope didn’t say: abortion. | We’ve been asking the question for hours: how far will the pope go to appease hard-right Catholics on this, a day that’s all about the family? Some strong words from the professor below about that word the pope didn’t say: abortion. |
| The World Meeting of Families has been all about promoting the perfect Catholic family – one man, one woman and children without the benefit of birth control. | The World Meeting of Families has been all about promoting the perfect Catholic family – one man, one woman and children without the benefit of birth control. |
| So it is surprising that Pope Francis’s free-wheeling remarks on the family focused on the virtue of love within the family, and the future – and not abortion, something that Catholic pro-lifers have been desperate to hear in a strong, decisive message from Francis all week. | So it is surprising that Pope Francis’s free-wheeling remarks on the family focused on the virtue of love within the family, and the future – and not abortion, something that Catholic pro-lifers have been desperate to hear in a strong, decisive message from Francis all week. |
| While Pope Francis mentioned abortion in his speeches to the joint session of Congress, in homilies, and obliquely in his address on Independence Mall earlier this evening, abortion is by no means his sole focus when talking about the family. It seemed that children and grandparents were more important to him, off-script, this evening. | While Pope Francis mentioned abortion in his speeches to the joint session of Congress, in homilies, and obliquely in his address on Independence Mall earlier this evening, abortion is by no means his sole focus when talking about the family. It seemed that children and grandparents were more important to him, off-script, this evening. |
| After his statement this month about absolution for abortion, the focus on American soil is about love, making mistakes and new opportunity. And that is a far cry from the harsh messages by some of the American bishops on abortion, contraception and same-sex marriage. | After his statement this month about absolution for abortion, the focus on American soil is about love, making mistakes and new opportunity. And that is a far cry from the harsh messages by some of the American bishops on abortion, contraception and same-sex marriage. |
| This capstone moment on the family will probably make the more conservative Catholics disappointed in Pope Francis’s visit overall, while giving disaffected Catholics a measure of hope after years of stridently doctrinal, ineffective messages on family life. | This capstone moment on the family will probably make the more conservative Catholics disappointed in Pope Francis’s visit overall, while giving disaffected Catholics a measure of hope after years of stridently doctrinal, ineffective messages on family life. |
| Plus, there were jokes. Mother-in-law jokes. Everyone could relate to that – the families fighting, the plates flying. This is a pope who knows what real life is all about. | Plus, there were jokes. Mother-in-law jokes. Everyone could relate to that – the families fighting, the plates flying. This is a pope who knows what real life is all about. |
| Stay tuned for more from Professor Butler throughout the weekend. | Stay tuned for more from Professor Butler throughout the weekend. |
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| Here’s a better transcript of Francis’s remarks about grandparents and children: | Here’s a better transcript of Francis’s remarks about grandparents and children: |
| There are some things we really need to take care of: the children, and grandparents. Children, whether they are young or older, they are the strength that moves us forward. We place our hope in them. | There are some things we really need to take care of: the children, and grandparents. Children, whether they are young or older, they are the strength that moves us forward. We place our hope in them. |
| Grandparents are the living memory of the family. They passed on the faith, they transmitted the faith, to us. To look after grandparents, children, is the expression of love. The people that does not care for its children or grandparents is a people that has not future. Because it doesn’t have the strength or the memory to go forward. | Grandparents are the living memory of the family. They passed on the faith, they transmitted the faith, to us. To look after grandparents, children, is the expression of love. The people that does not care for its children or grandparents is a people that has not future. Because it doesn’t have the strength or the memory to go forward. |
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| The Francis effect: | The Francis effect: |
| In one Philadelphia bar, people have put down their drinks, are attentively listening to #PopeFrancis talk about family. "Francis effect?" | In one Philadelphia bar, people have put down their drinks, are attentively listening to #PopeFrancis talk about family. "Francis effect?" |
| Listening to #PopeInPhilly. pic.twitter.com/6IXQvLXoko | Listening to #PopeInPhilly. pic.twitter.com/6IXQvLXoko |
| Nuns dance to @SisterSledge_'s "We are family" at festival for #PopeFrancis: http://t.co/FhiY2oqjAk #PopeInPhilly https://t.co/cub7ZzD1To | Nuns dance to @SisterSledge_'s "We are family" at festival for #PopeFrancis: http://t.co/FhiY2oqjAk #PopeInPhilly https://t.co/cub7ZzD1To |
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| Pope Francis blesses the crowd, and then wanders off stage with a curt “See you tomorrow!” in English. | Pope Francis blesses the crowd, and then wanders off stage with a curt “See you tomorrow!” in English. |
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| Adam Brereton | Adam Brereton |
| Pope Francis also asked the audience to take special care with children and grandchildren, a theme he has riffed on constantly throughout the tour and his ministry more broadly. He’s always emphasizing that wisdom must be passed down from generation to generation. | Pope Francis also asked the audience to take special care with children and grandchildren, a theme he has riffed on constantly throughout the tour and his ministry more broadly. He’s always emphasizing that wisdom must be passed down from generation to generation. |
| The audience was enraptured by the pope’s speech. He seems to really dislike being the high-altitude pontiff and has to fight his desire to go into local pastor mode. The fact that he went off-cuff at an event where many orthodox Catholics would have hoped for a big statement on abortion or gay marriage will be a let down for some. | The audience was enraptured by the pope’s speech. He seems to really dislike being the high-altitude pontiff and has to fight his desire to go into local pastor mode. The fact that he went off-cuff at an event where many orthodox Catholics would have hoped for a big statement on abortion or gay marriage will be a let down for some. |
| After all, many faithful US Catholics have waited a long time for the pope to give them political support for this cause or that. I doubt Francis cares; the people who matter to him most will fill the pews, not the sanctuary, at tomorrow’s mass. | After all, many faithful US Catholics have waited a long time for the pope to give them political support for this cause or that. I doubt Francis cares; the people who matter to him most will fill the pews, not the sanctuary, at tomorrow’s mass. |
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| Francis signs a mural painted by local children and on comes Andrea Bocelli to sing some Opera. | Francis signs a mural painted by local children and on comes Andrea Bocelli to sing some Opera. |
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| Here’s a passage that will be quoted: | Here’s a passage that will be quoted: |
| Families have a citizenship which is divine. The identity card they have is given to them by God. So that within the heart of the family, truth, goodness and beauty may truly grow. | Families have a citizenship which is divine. The identity card they have is given to them by God. So that within the heart of the family, truth, goodness and beauty may truly grow. |
| Then a few gags: | Then a few gags: |
| Some of you might say “Of course, father, you speak like that because you’re not married!” | Some of you might say “Of course, father, you speak like that because you’re not married!” |
| Families have the difficulties – families, we quarrel! And sometimes plates can fly. Children can bring headaches – and I won’t speak about mothers in law! | Families have the difficulties – families, we quarrel! And sometimes plates can fly. Children can bring headaches – and I won’t speak about mothers in law! |
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| God came to earth amid a family, Pope Francis says: | God came to earth amid a family, Pope Francis says: |
| So great was his love. That he began to walk with humanity, with his people, until the right moment came and he made the highest expression of love: his own son. | So great was his love. That he began to walk with humanity, with his people, until the right moment came and he made the highest expression of love: his own son. |
| And where did he send his son? To a palace? A city? No he sent him to a family. God sent him amid a family, in a family! | And where did he send his son? To a palace? A city? No he sent him to a family. God sent him amid a family, in a family! |
| And he could do this because it was a family that had a truly open heart. The doors of their heart were open. Think of Mary – she couldn’t believe it! How can this happen. But when they explained it to her … she agreed. Think of Joseph – he finds himself in a surprising situation he doesn’t understand, and he accepts, he obeys. | And he could do this because it was a family that had a truly open heart. The doors of their heart were open. Think of Mary – she couldn’t believe it! How can this happen. But when they explained it to her … she agreed. Think of Joseph – he finds himself in a surprising situation he doesn’t understand, and he accepts, he obeys. |
| You know what God loves most? To knock on the door of families and to find the families who love each other – families who bring up their children to grow and to move forward. Who create, who develop a society of truth, goodness and beauty. | You know what God loves most? To knock on the door of families and to find the families who love each other – families who bring up their children to grow and to move forward. Who create, who develop a society of truth, goodness and beauty. |
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| Sometimes we’re a bit confused, we are destroying the family: | Sometimes we’re a bit confused, we are destroying the family: |
| God made this marvelous world in which we live and because sometimes we’re a bit confused we are destroying it. But the most beautiful thing that God did, says the bible, was the family. | God made this marvelous world in which we live and because sometimes we’re a bit confused we are destroying it. But the most beautiful thing that God did, says the bible, was the family. |
| He created man, and he created woman and he gave them everything. He gave them the world that they might grow, multiply, cultivate the land … all that love that he made in creation he gave it and shared it and bestowed it upon the family. | He created man, and he created woman and he gave them everything. He gave them the world that they might grow, multiply, cultivate the land … all that love that he made in creation he gave it and shared it and bestowed it upon the family. |
| All the love God has in himself, all the beauty and truth he has in himself, he gives it to the family. Family is really family when it’s able to open its arms and receive all that love. Of course, it’s not quite earthly paradise. There are still problems. | All the love God has in himself, all the beauty and truth he has in himself, he gives it to the family. Family is really family when it’s able to open its arms and receive all that love. Of course, it’s not quite earthly paradise. There are still problems. |
| Men and women through the astuteness of the devil have learned, unfortunately, how to divide themselves. And all that love God gave, almost was lost. In a little period of time the first crime: the first instance of fratricide. A brother kills another brother – and war. Love and beauty and truth, or war. Between them, we walk ahead. It’s up to us to choose. It’s up to us to decide which path we want to take forward. | Men and women through the astuteness of the devil have learned, unfortunately, how to divide themselves. And all that love God gave, almost was lost. In a little period of time the first crime: the first instance of fratricide. A brother kills another brother – and war. Love and beauty and truth, or war. Between them, we walk ahead. It’s up to us to choose. It’s up to us to decide which path we want to take forward. |
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| Pope Francis freelances on the family | Pope Francis freelances on the family |
| The pope has tossed aside his prepared notes once again, to talk about the family like a parish priest. He applauds the witness of the families before, saying it pleases God: | The pope has tossed aside his prepared notes once again, to talk about the family like a parish priest. He applauds the witness of the families before, saying it pleases God: |
| Because God also is truth. Beauty and truth. And a witness given in order to serve is thoroughly good. It makes us good persons because God is goodness. He takes us to God: all that is good, all that is true, all that is beautiful leads us to God. Because God is good, God is beautiful, God is true. Thankyou all, those who’ve offered their witness and for the presence of all of you, that is also a great witness, a real witness that it’s worth being a family. | Because God also is truth. Beauty and truth. And a witness given in order to serve is thoroughly good. It makes us good persons because God is goodness. He takes us to God: all that is good, all that is true, all that is beautiful leads us to God. Because God is good, God is beautiful, God is true. Thankyou all, those who’ve offered their witness and for the presence of all of you, that is also a great witness, a real witness that it’s worth being a family. |
| That a society is strong, it’s solid, if it’s edified on beauty, goodness and truth. Once, a child asked me – and you know children ask difficult questions – they asked me, “Father, what did God do before creating the world?” | That a society is strong, it’s solid, if it’s edified on beauty, goodness and truth. Once, a child asked me – and you know children ask difficult questions – they asked me, “Father, what did God do before creating the world?” |
| I assure you, I found real difficulty in answering the question. So I said what I’m now going to say to you: before creating the world, God loved. Because is God is love. And so much love, Father Son and Holy Spirit, it was so overflowing, I don’t know if this is very logical but you’ll understand. | I assure you, I found real difficulty in answering the question. So I said what I’m now going to say to you: before creating the world, God loved. Because is God is love. And so much love, Father Son and Holy Spirit, it was so overflowing, I don’t know if this is very logical but you’ll understand. |
| It was so big, it was so big this love, that God could not be egoistic – it had to be poured out of him. | It was so big, it was so big this love, that God could not be egoistic – it had to be poured out of him. |
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| Pope Francis is going completely off the cuff here – I’ll be with you in a second. | Pope Francis is going completely off the cuff here – I’ll be with you in a second. |
| “Family is like a factory of hope – a factory of resurrection.” That’s a highlight so far. | “Family is like a factory of hope – a factory of resurrection.” That’s a highlight so far. |
| And there are jokes! | And there are jokes! |
| Francis in flying, free-ranging oration to Philadelphia. Truth, beauty, God, and jokes. #PopeinPhilly pic.twitter.com/35q6uAUueR | Francis in flying, free-ranging oration to Philadelphia. Truth, beauty, God, and jokes. #PopeinPhilly pic.twitter.com/35q6uAUueR |
| #PopeInPhilly: Family life can feature plates flying, kids causing headaches, "I won't even mention mothers-in-law" pic.twitter.com/6CXOt0jt2g | #PopeInPhilly: Family life can feature plates flying, kids causing headaches, "I won't even mention mothers-in-law" pic.twitter.com/6CXOt0jt2g |
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