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Thousands queue for Pope Francis ahead of World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia – live | |
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No photos or video from Pope Francis’s visit to St Joseph’s university yet, but Jesuit priest James Martin just tweeted this: | |
Breaking: Pope Francis visited the sick, elderly and infirm Jesuit priests and brothers at the Jesuit infirmary at St. Joseph's University. | |
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Is Pope Francis’s utopia attainable? Guardian opinion contributor Anthea Butler has a great post on Comment is Free about the freewheelin’ pope’s appearance yesterday at the World Meeting of Families: | |
The real question, next, is this: how long will the feel-good focus on families and their struggles actually last after the pope packs up and leaves for Rome? In a world where families are drowning on beaches to escape war, leaving the church because of sexual abuse, or denied access because of sexual orientation, the utopia that Pope Francis desires may be impossible for the church to attain. | |
You can read the rest here: | |
Related: Pope Francis didn't say 'abortion' – and that's what conservative Catholics need to hear | Anthea Butler | |
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Right now, Francis is making an unscheduled stop at St Joseph’s University in Philly. It’s a Jesuit university and the pope is a Jesuit; Francis often stops to meet and greet his brothers in the order. | |
He’ll visit a new statue at the university, “Synagoga and Ecclesia in Our Time,” which has just been dedicated. It commemorates 50 years of Nostra Aetate, the statement from the church’s Second Vatican Council that restored the relationship between Roman Catholicism and Judaism. Before that moment, Roman Catholicism was plagued by anti-semitism; now relations are much more collegial. | |
Here’s some information from the St Joseph’s website: | |
That 1965 statement [Nostra Aetate] repudiated centuries of Christian claims that Jews were blind enemies of God whose spiritual life was obsolete. The document called instead for friendship and dialogue between Catholics and Jews. Shortly after, what was then Saint Joseph’s College became the first American Catholic college to respond to this appeal by establishing the Institute for Jewish-Catholic Relations. The sculpture will also memorialize the Institute’s work and mission. | |
On numerous medieval cathedrals statues of the female allegorical figures of Church (Ecclesia) and Synagogue (Synagoga) portrayed the triumph of Christianity over Judaism. Ecclesia is crowned, majestic and victorious. Synagoga is defeated and blindfolded, her crown fallen at her feet. | |
“In 1965, Nostra Aetate rejected such images, declaring that Jews are beloved by an ever-faithful God whose promises are irrevocable,” says University President, C Kevin Gillespie, SJ. | |
“The statue of ‘Synagoga and Ecclesia in Our Time’ will portray Jews and Christians using the medieval figures in a strikingly different way to express Catholic teaching today.” | |
Updated at 7.27pm BST | |
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Adam Brereton | |
G’day everyone, Adam Brereton back on the PopeBlog now for the last few hours of Pope Francis’s US tour. It’s been a long week and I’m almost poped out, but stay with me for the Philadelphia Mega Mass and a final meeting with the organizers of the World Meeting of Families. | |
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This Vine is for everyone waiting in line to see the pope’s 4pm mass in Philadelphia, on his final day in the United States: | This Vine is for everyone waiting in line to see the pope’s 4pm mass in Philadelphia, on his final day in the United States: |
This prisoner got a big bear hug off #PopeFrancis #PopeInPhilly http://t.co/aqCdeq4SG3 | This prisoner got a big bear hug off #PopeFrancis #PopeInPhilly http://t.co/aqCdeq4SG3 |
This was shot earlier Sunday at the Curran-Fromhold correctional facility, during the pope’s visit to the largest prison in Philadelphia. | This was shot earlier Sunday at the Curran-Fromhold correctional facility, during the pope’s visit to the largest prison in Philadelphia. |
Updated at 6.54pm BST | Updated at 6.54pm BST |
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Whether at Saint Joseph’s University or Benjamin Franklin Parkway, a near universal experience during the pope’s visit – for common folks, that is – are the crowds. | Whether at Saint Joseph’s University or Benjamin Franklin Parkway, a near universal experience during the pope’s visit – for common folks, that is – are the crowds. |
The Guardian’s Alan Yuhas has been waiting in line for hours to make the pope’s 4pm mass to the World Meeting of Families. He tells us a bit about what that’s like. | The Guardian’s Alan Yuhas has been waiting in line for hours to make the pope’s 4pm mass to the World Meeting of Families. He tells us a bit about what that’s like. |
There‘s probably over 1,000 people over a course of two to three blocks, just waiting to get into a security checkpoint... | There‘s probably over 1,000 people over a course of two to three blocks, just waiting to get into a security checkpoint... |
There’s an interesting mix of people taking is patiently, just understanding that the line is what it is and it’s not speeding up any time soon, and then there’s people getting quite upset, and shouting faster, faster in different languages, and getting upset at wheelchairs and strollers and stuff.” | There’s an interesting mix of people taking is patiently, just understanding that the line is what it is and it’s not speeding up any time soon, and then there’s people getting quite upset, and shouting faster, faster in different languages, and getting upset at wheelchairs and strollers and stuff.” |
By his estimation, Yuhas said he has probably moved, “50 feet in 20 or 30 minutes.” | By his estimation, Yuhas said he has probably moved, “50 feet in 20 or 30 minutes.” |
The shambling mass heading to the 18th St checkpoint #popeinphilly. pic.twitter.com/UalIry0hB6 | The shambling mass heading to the 18th St checkpoint #popeinphilly. pic.twitter.com/UalIry0hB6 |
Updated at 6.57pm BST | Updated at 6.57pm BST |
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Here are some more scenes of the gathering crowd at Saint Joseph University’s campus. | Here are some more scenes of the gathering crowd at Saint Joseph University’s campus. |
Students anxiously await @Pontifex at @saintjosephs. University has confirmed his visit to campus. pic.twitter.com/hVeiZqG4jA | Students anxiously await @Pontifex at @saintjosephs. University has confirmed his visit to campus. pic.twitter.com/hVeiZqG4jA |
This is the scene at @saintjosephs right now. Pope Francis is coming to campus per reports. #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/QHb9OLtGVN | This is the scene at @saintjosephs right now. Pope Francis is coming to campus per reports. #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/QHb9OLtGVN |
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Francis to make unexpected stop at Jesuit university | Francis to make unexpected stop at Jesuit university |
Saint Joseph’s University confirmed via Twitter that the pope will visit the campus this afternoon, sometime before the World Meeting of Families mass at 4pm, though there is no exact time. | Saint Joseph’s University confirmed via Twitter that the pope will visit the campus this afternoon, sometime before the World Meeting of Families mass at 4pm, though there is no exact time. |
Crowds started gathering as rumors of an impromptu papal visit circulated. At Saint Joseph’s, the excitement on campus is evident. | Crowds started gathering as rumors of an impromptu papal visit circulated. At Saint Joseph’s, the excitement on campus is evident. |
Francis is the first Jesuit pope of the Catholic church, and himself served as the rector of Colegio of San José and as a professor of theology from 1980 to 1986. | Francis is the first Jesuit pope of the Catholic church, and himself served as the rector of Colegio of San José and as a professor of theology from 1980 to 1986. |
THE POPES COMING THE POPES COMING @saintjosephs #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/NiUNKdrR1i | THE POPES COMING THE POPES COMING @saintjosephs #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/NiUNKdrR1i |
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Catholic sex abuse survivors: "Less victims to weep over" if clergy took action | Catholic sex abuse survivors: "Less victims to weep over" if clergy took action |
Though Pope Francis took time to speak with five survivors of sexual abuse (a meeting that was expected, but not confirmed until Sunday), some survivors of abuse by priests said the words ring hollow. | Though Pope Francis took time to speak with five survivors of sexual abuse (a meeting that was expected, but not confirmed until Sunday), some survivors of abuse by priests said the words ring hollow. |
The Guardian’s Rome correspondent Stephanie Kirchgaessner explains: | The Guardian’s Rome correspondent Stephanie Kirchgaessner explains: |
It was one of many encounters the pope has had in his first visit to the US through which he sought to show his compassion for those who struggle, suffer and live at the peripheries of society, including prison inmates, poor immigrants and the homeless. | It was one of many encounters the pope has had in his first visit to the US through which he sought to show his compassion for those who struggle, suffer and live at the peripheries of society, including prison inmates, poor immigrants and the homeless. |
But for many victims of sexual abuse, who have lived through years of cover-ups and denials by the church, the pope’s meeting and apology was a hollow gesture. Even independent Vatican experts suggest that the sex abuse scandal –which has severely tarnished its reputation and cost $3bn in settlements in the US –is a “weak spot” for a pope otherwise seen as a moral voice for the world. | But for many victims of sexual abuse, who have lived through years of cover-ups and denials by the church, the pope’s meeting and apology was a hollow gesture. Even independent Vatican experts suggest that the sex abuse scandal –which has severely tarnished its reputation and cost $3bn in settlements in the US –is a “weak spot” for a pope otherwise seen as a moral voice for the world. |
“The pope said [on Sunday] that ‘God weeps for the victims’ but we believe that there would be many less victims to weep over if Pope Francis and other church officials would take action to protect the children,” says Barbara Blaine, who was sexually abused by a local priest in Ohio and founded an outspoken advocacy group called Snap (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests). | “The pope said [on Sunday] that ‘God weeps for the victims’ but we believe that there would be many less victims to weep over if Pope Francis and other church officials would take action to protect the children,” says Barbara Blaine, who was sexually abused by a local priest in Ohio and founded an outspoken advocacy group called Snap (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests). |
Updated at 6.12pm BST | Updated at 6.12pm BST |
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Pope Francis will hold mass at 4pm to conclude the World Meeting of Families. | Pope Francis will hold mass at 4pm to conclude the World Meeting of Families. |
This is the line to get in. | This is the line to get in. |
Incredibly looooong line at 18th/Cherry to get into Parkway for @Pontifex mass pic.twitter.com/vwAUK5iXLb | Incredibly looooong line at 18th/Cherry to get into Parkway for @Pontifex mass pic.twitter.com/vwAUK5iXLb |
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While we watch a press conference with church leaders, it’s worth remembering what streets in Philadelphia look like right now: crowded. | While we watch a press conference with church leaders, it’s worth remembering what streets in Philadelphia look like right now: crowded. |
Helllllooo from the middle of the #PopeinPhilly checkpoint crowd. pic.twitter.com/ShO567dg52 | Helllllooo from the middle of the #PopeinPhilly checkpoint crowd. pic.twitter.com/ShO567dg52 |
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A Guardian contributor, professor Anathea Butler of the University of Pennsylvania’s department of religious studies, explains the context local to Philadelphia in which we might see the pope’s remarks on sex abuse. | A Guardian contributor, professor Anathea Butler of the University of Pennsylvania’s department of religious studies, explains the context local to Philadelphia in which we might see the pope’s remarks on sex abuse. |
This statement comes in the city that convicted the first diocesan administrator, Monsignor William Lynn, of moving pedophile priests around the archdiocese without turning them over to the police or taking them out of churches. | This statement comes in the city that convicted the first diocesan administrator, Monsignor William Lynn, of moving pedophile priests around the archdiocese without turning them over to the police or taking them out of churches. |
Philadelphia went through two grand jury investigations regarding child abuse cases in 2005 and 2011, and there are still outstanding cases in the archdiocese.” | Philadelphia went through two grand jury investigations regarding child abuse cases in 2005 and 2011, and there are still outstanding cases in the archdiocese.” |
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Several reporters have also asked questions about the pope’s comments on clergy sexual abuse, including how many families were victims of sex abuse by clergy. | Several reporters have also asked questions about the pope’s comments on clergy sexual abuse, including how many families were victims of sex abuse by clergy. |
Father Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, said that “two or three were abused by priests or Catholic educators, at least two were for other members of the family or other educators.” | Father Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, said that “two or three were abused by priests or Catholic educators, at least two were for other members of the family or other educators.” |
Another reporter asked why the pope waited until the end of his trip to the United States address victims of sexual abuse. | Another reporter asked why the pope waited until the end of his trip to the United States address victims of sexual abuse. |
You have only to the understand that this journey has different stages and vocations. If he had a meeting with the bishop, he had many things to say to the bishop, and not only to speak of the sex abuse.” | You have only to the understand that this journey has different stages and vocations. If he had a meeting with the bishop, he had many things to say to the bishop, and not only to speak of the sex abuse.” |
Lombardi also said that the church, and the committee for protection of children and young people, sees its mission as to protect all young people of all religions from abuse. Not just within the church. | Lombardi also said that the church, and the committee for protection of children and young people, sees its mission as to protect all young people of all religions from abuse. Not just within the church. |
We know the problem is a universal problem, not just in the church but in society.” | We know the problem is a universal problem, not just in the church but in society.” |
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Church leaders answer questions about pope's visit | Church leaders answer questions about pope's visit |
Leaders of the Catholic church are now holding a press conference to answer questions about the pope’s message. The first is about the pope’s view on same-sex marriage. Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesperson, answers. | Leaders of the Catholic church are now holding a press conference to answer questions about the pope’s message. The first is about the pope’s view on same-sex marriage. Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesperson, answers. |
The vision of the pope and of the church of the family, is the family that is built by a man and a woman, and the Christian family as the sacramental the marriage that unites the man and the woman.” | The vision of the pope and of the church of the family, is the family that is built by a man and a woman, and the Christian family as the sacramental the marriage that unites the man and the woman.” |
Updated at 5.29pm BST | Updated at 5.29pm BST |
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During that visit, Pope Francis also received an icon of Our Lady of Charity of Cobre from bishops in Cuba. | During that visit, Pope Francis also received an icon of Our Lady of Charity of Cobre from bishops in Cuba. |
He asked bishops at Saint Charles Borromeo seminary to fulfill that duty for him. He told them: | He asked bishops at Saint Charles Borromeo seminary to fulfill that duty for him. He told them: |
I’m not going to get in this difficult situation. You will decide which Cuban community needs this the most.” | I’m not going to get in this difficult situation. You will decide which Cuban community needs this the most.” |
Photo: http://t.co/q83tXDASFZ Our Lady of Charity of Cobre - Patroness of Cuba. #Catholic #PopeInCuba pic.twitter.com/eANLgRSDQR | Photo: http://t.co/q83tXDASFZ Our Lady of Charity of Cobre - Patroness of Cuba. #Catholic #PopeInCuba pic.twitter.com/eANLgRSDQR |
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In related news, President Obama announced he will hold his first formal meeting with Cuban President Raúl Castro on Tuesday in New York. | In related news, President Obama announced he will hold his first formal meeting with Cuban President Raúl Castro on Tuesday in New York. |
Some are calling it the “Francis effect”. | Some are calling it the “Francis effect”. |
Francis effect. https://t.co/1Cj6c8eo5B | Francis effect. https://t.co/1Cj6c8eo5B |
Francis visited Cuba before arriving in the US. There, he addressed the thaw in diplomatic relations between the countries “a sign of the victory of the culture of encounter and dialogue, the system of universal growth over the forever-dead system of groups and dynasties”. | Francis visited Cuba before arriving in the US. There, he addressed the thaw in diplomatic relations between the countries “a sign of the victory of the culture of encounter and dialogue, the system of universal growth over the forever-dead system of groups and dynasties”. |
Updated at 5.13pm BST | Updated at 5.13pm BST |
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People slept on the street last night to try to stake out their position at the conclusion of the World Meeting of Families. | People slept on the street last night to try to stake out their position at the conclusion of the World Meeting of Families. |
On dort à Philadelphie en attendant la messe du Pape 16:00. #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/7vv3YL9hnR | On dort à Philadelphie en attendant la messe du Pape 16:00. #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/7vv3YL9hnR |
This happened last night as well, outside the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul. | This happened last night as well, outside the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul. |
Perhaps it’s because they thought they couldn’t catch a train. Though subways are reportedly running on schedule now, the director of Philadelphia transit system told the Philadelphia Inquirer some people leaving tonight’s event could have to wait up to two hours to board a train. | Perhaps it’s because they thought they couldn’t catch a train. Though subways are reportedly running on schedule now, the director of Philadelphia transit system told the Philadelphia Inquirer some people leaving tonight’s event could have to wait up to two hours to board a train. |
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A mass for the conclusion of the World Meeting of Families should be one of the largest events in Philadelphia, before the pope’s departure to Rome at 8pm this evening. | A mass for the conclusion of the World Meeting of Families should be one of the largest events in Philadelphia, before the pope’s departure to Rome at 8pm this evening. |
The mass is more than four hours away, but many are already reporting staggering queues. | The mass is more than four hours away, but many are already reporting staggering queues. |
5 hrs before Mass at #PopeInPhilly security are already clogged by people wanting spots for the Sunday celebration. pic.twitter.com/YQi54mshiZ | 5 hrs before Mass at #PopeInPhilly security are already clogged by people wanting spots for the Sunday celebration. pic.twitter.com/YQi54mshiZ |
Security lines seem way worse today. Got through in 35 mins. Yesterday. Already here longer. No end in sight. #popeinphilly | Security lines seem way worse today. Got through in 35 mins. Yesterday. Already here longer. No end in sight. #popeinphilly |
Current status: Holy #PopeinPhilly line. Longest checkpoint line to date into the Parkway area. pic.twitter.com/pz58b3xKlw | Current status: Holy #PopeinPhilly line. Longest checkpoint line to date into the Parkway area. pic.twitter.com/pz58b3xKlw |
Updated at 5.14pm BST | Updated at 5.14pm BST |
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As Pope Francis concludes his visit at Curran-Fromhold prison, it’s worth taking note of where the event happened. The prison is Philadelphia’s largest, processing up to 30,000 arrestees each year. The facility spans 25 acres. | As Pope Francis concludes his visit at Curran-Fromhold prison, it’s worth taking note of where the event happened. The prison is Philadelphia’s largest, processing up to 30,000 arrestees each year. The facility spans 25 acres. |
In the state of Pennsylvania, no one has been executed since 1995. The pope condemned capital punishment before Congress during his time in Washington. But the state hasn’t outlawed the practice; instead, there is a moratorium. | In the state of Pennsylvania, no one has been executed since 1995. The pope condemned capital punishment before Congress during his time in Washington. But the state hasn’t outlawed the practice; instead, there is a moratorium. |
I am convinced that this way is the best, since every life is sacred, every human person is endowed with an inalienable dignity, and society can only benefit from the rehabilitation of those convicted of crimes,” he said. | I am convinced that this way is the best, since every life is sacred, every human person is endowed with an inalienable dignity, and society can only benefit from the rehabilitation of those convicted of crimes,” he said. |
Updated at 5.16pm BST | Updated at 5.16pm BST |
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Pope Francis is spending a significant amount of time shaking each inmate’s hand. | Pope Francis is spending a significant amount of time shaking each inmate’s hand. |
Pope Francis shakes hands with every single inmate at the event #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/XUk8q4slR0 | Pope Francis shakes hands with every single inmate at the event #PopeInPhilly pic.twitter.com/XUk8q4slR0 |
He is also honoring inmates’ requests to bless their religious items such as rosaries before leaving the room. | He is also honoring inmates’ requests to bless their religious items such as rosaries before leaving the room. |
Updated at 5.16pm BST | Updated at 5.16pm BST |
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Here is a better look at the gifts prisoners gave the pope during his visit. | Here is a better look at the gifts prisoners gave the pope during his visit. |
Life is sacred:innocent life and guilty life. The gifts offered to @pontifex by inmates: a chair & fruits/vegetables. pic.twitter.com/YhTfw6uCWx | Life is sacred:innocent life and guilty life. The gifts offered to @pontifex by inmates: a chair & fruits/vegetables. pic.twitter.com/YhTfw6uCWx |
Updated at 5.16pm BST | Updated at 5.16pm BST |
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The pope then goes off-script for a short blessing, before shaking hands with each prisoner in the first row. | The pope then goes off-script for a short blessing, before shaking hands with each prisoner in the first row. |
We ask the lord to bless us. May God bless you and protect you, and make his face shine upon you, and may he grant you peace. | We ask the lord to bless us. May God bless you and protect you, and make his face shine upon you, and may he grant you peace. |
He will go on to meet in the gym with 100 male and female inmates, a meeting which will be broadcast throughout the prison, Vatican live stream announcers said. | He will go on to meet in the gym with 100 male and female inmates, a meeting which will be broadcast throughout the prison, Vatican live stream announcers said. |
The inmates who were chosen to sit in on the pope’s speech regularly attend Catholic worship services, have good behavioral records and are in “self-improvement programs”, the Philadelphia prison commission told the Wall Street Journal. | The inmates who were chosen to sit in on the pope’s speech regularly attend Catholic worship services, have good behavioral records and are in “self-improvement programs”, the Philadelphia prison commission told the Wall Street Journal. |
The group includes women, too. #PopeInPhilly greets prisoners #PopeinUS pic.twitter.com/X2jxeLHLGf | The group includes women, too. #PopeInPhilly greets prisoners #PopeinUS pic.twitter.com/X2jxeLHLGf |
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Francis then goes on to speak about prison systems at large, and the importance of rehabilitation programs. | Francis then goes on to speak about prison systems at large, and the importance of rehabilitation programs. |
It is painful when we see prison systems which are not concerned to care for wounds, to soothe pain, to offer new possibilities. It is painful when we see people who think that only others need to be cleansed, purified, and do not recognize that their weariness, pain and wounds are also the weariness, pain and wounds of society. | It is painful when we see prison systems which are not concerned to care for wounds, to soothe pain, to offer new possibilities. It is painful when we see people who think that only others need to be cleansed, purified, and do not recognize that their weariness, pain and wounds are also the weariness, pain and wounds of society. |
.@Pontifex speaks about hope, forgiveness and redemption at Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility. #CBSPhillyPope pic.twitter.com/QiRObVtom2 | .@Pontifex speaks about hope, forgiveness and redemption at Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility. #CBSPhillyPope pic.twitter.com/QiRObVtom2 |
Updated at 5.18pm BST | Updated at 5.18pm BST |
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As Pope Francis speaks to prisoners, he uses washing feet as a metaphor for healing and the difficulties of life: | As Pope Francis speaks to prisoners, he uses washing feet as a metaphor for healing and the difficulties of life: |
We know in faith that Jesus seeks us out. He wants to heal our wounds to sooth our feet, which hurt from traveling alone… Confinement is not the same thing as exclusion.” | We know in faith that Jesus seeks us out. He wants to heal our wounds to sooth our feet, which hurt from traveling alone… Confinement is not the same thing as exclusion.” |
Prisoners listening to #PopeInPhilly who tells them EVERYONE, including #PopeFrancis, need to be cleansed. pic.twitter.com/QnT8ZrQurX | Prisoners listening to #PopeInPhilly who tells them EVERYONE, including #PopeFrancis, need to be cleansed. pic.twitter.com/QnT8ZrQurX |
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Pope Francis begins speech at Curran-Fromhold prison | Pope Francis begins speech at Curran-Fromhold prison |
The Holy Father began his speech by telling inmates he shares their pain. | The Holy Father began his speech by telling inmates he shares their pain. |
I know it is a painful time, not only for you, but also for your families and for all of society. Any society, any family, which cannot share or take seriously the pain of its children, and views that pain as something normal or to be expected, is a society ‘condemned’ to remain a hostage to itself, prey to the very things which cause that pain. I am here as a pastor, but above all as a brother, to share your situation and to make it my own. | I know it is a painful time, not only for you, but also for your families and for all of society. Any society, any family, which cannot share or take seriously the pain of its children, and views that pain as something normal or to be expected, is a society ‘condemned’ to remain a hostage to itself, prey to the very things which cause that pain. I am here as a pastor, but above all as a brother, to share your situation and to make it my own. |
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Pope Francis begins his speech by saying he will only speak in Spanish. | Pope Francis begins his speech by saying he will only speak in Spanish. |
I will speak in Spanish, because I don’t know English,” he said. | I will speak in Spanish, because I don’t know English,” he said. |
RT @TrishaThomasAP: #PopeFrancis waves to female inmates pic.twitter.com/O593qift7p | RT @TrishaThomasAP: #PopeFrancis waves to female inmates pic.twitter.com/O593qift7p |
Updated at 3.43pm BST | Updated at 3.43pm BST |
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Here is a little more of the scene within Curran-Fromhold correctional facility. | Here is a little more of the scene within Curran-Fromhold correctional facility. |
Here's the scene at CFCF as we await #PopeInPhilly prison visit. pic.twitter.com/rOlaAYfhsp | Here's the scene at CFCF as we await #PopeInPhilly prison visit. pic.twitter.com/rOlaAYfhsp |
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Pope Francis is about to speak at the Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility. | Pope Francis is about to speak at the Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility. |
He is sitting in a chair made by inmates at the prison. Local politicians, including Philadelphia mayor Michael Nutter and district attorney R Seth Williams, are present. | He is sitting in a chair made by inmates at the prison. Local politicians, including Philadelphia mayor Michael Nutter and district attorney R Seth Williams, are present. |
Philadelphia archbishop Charles Chaput is the first to speak. | Philadelphia archbishop Charles Chaput is the first to speak. |
#popeinphilly Prisoners await Pope Francis at Curran-Frumhold Correctional Institution. Built his chair. pic.twitter.com/lKvlGfovz9 | #popeinphilly Prisoners await Pope Francis at Curran-Frumhold Correctional Institution. Built his chair. pic.twitter.com/lKvlGfovz9 |
Updated at 3.44pm BST | Updated at 3.44pm BST |
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Pope Francis’s speech at the Saint Charles Borromeo Seminary also focused heavily on the family and the importance of priests encouraging people to marry. | Pope Francis’s speech at the Saint Charles Borromeo Seminary also focused heavily on the family and the importance of priests encouraging people to marry. |
The pope got more than one chuckle out of the crowd when encouraging priests to tell young people to marry: | The pope got more than one chuckle out of the crowd when encouraging priests to tell young people to marry: |
In Buenos Aires, how many women tell me: ‘My son is 30, 34 years old and he’s not getting married. I don’t know what to do!’ | In Buenos Aires, how many women tell me: ‘My son is 30, 34 years old and he’s not getting married. I don’t know what to do!’ |
And I say: ‘Don’t iron his shirts anymore.’ | And I say: ‘Don’t iron his shirts anymore.’ |
Our beloved brother @Pontifex pic.twitter.com/sMy9Kk2Kgs | Our beloved brother @Pontifex pic.twitter.com/sMy9Kk2Kgs |
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In preparation for his next speech, Pope Francis just landed at Curran-Fromhold correctional facility. That speech begins in about 45 minutes. | In preparation for his next speech, Pope Francis just landed at Curran-Fromhold correctional facility. That speech begins in about 45 minutes. |
Pope Francis has landed at Curran Fromhold Correc. Facility. #fox29pope, #popeinphilly. pic.twitter.com/I14qruqzu5 | Pope Francis has landed at Curran Fromhold Correc. Facility. #fox29pope, #popeinphilly. pic.twitter.com/I14qruqzu5 |
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Vatican confirms that Pope Francis met with victims | Vatican confirms that Pope Francis met with victims |
We’ve just received a statement from Vatican spokesperson Father Federico Lombardi about Pope Francis’s meeting with victims of sexual abuse. | We’ve just received a statement from Vatican spokesperson Father Federico Lombardi about Pope Francis’s meeting with victims of sexual abuse. |
The pope met with victims of sexual abuse between 8am and 9am, for about 30 minutes, just before his speech at the Saint Charles Borromeo Seminary. | The pope met with victims of sexual abuse between 8am and 9am, for about 30 minutes, just before his speech at the Saint Charles Borromeo Seminary. |
He listened to the individual stories and spoke as a group to three women and two men, each abused as children by clergy, teachers or a family member. Each was accompanied by a “family member or support person”. The archbishop of Philadelphia, Charles Chaput, and the archbishop of Boston, Patrick O’Malley, chair of Pope Francis’s commission to protect minors, was also present. | He listened to the individual stories and spoke as a group to three women and two men, each abused as children by clergy, teachers or a family member. Each was accompanied by a “family member or support person”. The archbishop of Philadelphia, Charles Chaput, and the archbishop of Boston, Patrick O’Malley, chair of Pope Francis’s commission to protect minors, was also present. |
He then prayed with them and expressed his solidarity in sharing their suffering, as well as his own pain and shame in especially in the case of injury caused them by clergy or church workers. | He then prayed with them and expressed his solidarity in sharing their suffering, as well as his own pain and shame in especially in the case of injury caused them by clergy or church workers. |
The statement goes on to reiterate: “The guilty be punished and crimes of abuse be combated with an effective prevention program in the church and in society.” | The statement goes on to reiterate: “The guilty be punished and crimes of abuse be combated with an effective prevention program in the church and in society.” |
The Pope thanked the victims for their essential contribution to restore the truth and begin the journey of healing. | The Pope thanked the victims for their essential contribution to restore the truth and begin the journey of healing. |
The pope then blessed the victims. The statement confirms the meeting last about 30 minutes. | The pope then blessed the victims. The statement confirms the meeting last about 30 minutes. |
Updated at 3.47pm BST | Updated at 3.47pm BST |
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Francis deviated – significantly – before he even began prepared remarks, speaking strongly about child sexual abuse in the church. | Francis deviated – significantly – before he even began prepared remarks, speaking strongly about child sexual abuse in the church. |
For the sexual abuse of children – these cannot be maintained in secret, and I commit to a careful oversight to ensure that youth are protected, and all responsible will be held accountable. | For the sexual abuse of children – these cannot be maintained in secret, and I commit to a careful oversight to ensure that youth are protected, and all responsible will be held accountable. |
The Vatican correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter reports that Pope Francis met with victims for about 30 minutes before his speech to bishops this morning, and prayed with victims. | The Vatican correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter reports that Pope Francis met with victims for about 30 minutes before his speech to bishops this morning, and prayed with victims. |
That would line up with Father Thomas Rosica’s statement that Francis met with victims this morning. | That would line up with Father Thomas Rosica’s statement that Francis met with victims this morning. |
#Vatican: @Pontifex listened to abuse survivors and prayed with them. "He manifested his participation in their suffering." #PopeInPhilly | #Vatican: @Pontifex listened to abuse survivors and prayed with them. "He manifested his participation in their suffering." #PopeInPhilly |
#Vatican: Meeting b/t @Pontifex and abuse survivors laster about a half hour. He ended it by giving them a blessing. #PopeInPhilly | #Vatican: Meeting b/t @Pontifex and abuse survivors laster about a half hour. He ended it by giving them a blessing. #PopeInPhilly |
#Vatican: W/ abuse survivors, @Pontifex "renewed his and the church's commitment that survivors be treated w/ justice." #PopeInPhilly | #Vatican: W/ abuse survivors, @Pontifex "renewed his and the church's commitment that survivors be treated w/ justice." #PopeInPhilly |
Updated at 3.47pm BST | Updated at 3.47pm BST |
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As Pope Francis leaves the seminary chapel now, let’s first look at the pope’s prepared remarks and where he deviated. | As Pope Francis leaves the seminary chapel now, let’s first look at the pope’s prepared remarks and where he deviated. |
He was expected to speak about same-sex marriage and consumerism. He compared the differences between “Christian marriage” and legal marriage with local markets and so-called big box stores, and went on to criticize “trends” and consumer culture. | He was expected to speak about same-sex marriage and consumerism. He compared the differences between “Christian marriage” and legal marriage with local markets and so-called big box stores, and went on to criticize “trends” and consumer culture. |
Until recently, we lived in a social context where the similarities between the civil institution of marriage and the Christian sacrament were considerable and shared. The two were interrelated and mutually supportive. This is no longer the case. To describe our situation today, I would use two familiar images: our neighborhood stores and our large supermarkets. | Until recently, we lived in a social context where the similarities between the civil institution of marriage and the Christian sacrament were considerable and shared. The two were interrelated and mutually supportive. This is no longer the case. To describe our situation today, I would use two familiar images: our neighborhood stores and our large supermarkets. |
Francis called local markets humble but personal. | Francis called local markets humble but personal. |
The products may not have been cleverly displayed, or offered much choice, but there was a personal bond between the shopkeeper and his customers. Business was done on the basis of trust, people knew one another, they were all neighbors. | The products may not have been cleverly displayed, or offered much choice, but there was a personal bond between the shopkeeper and his customers. Business was done on the basis of trust, people knew one another, they were all neighbors. |
Those markets, Francis said, were replaced by what Americans might know as “big box” stores. | Those markets, Francis said, were replaced by what Americans might know as “big box” stores. |
Then a different kind of store grew up: the supermarket. Huge spaces with a great selection of merchandise. The world seems to have become one of these great supermarkets; our culture has become more and more competitive. | Then a different kind of store grew up: the supermarket. Huge spaces with a great selection of merchandise. The world seems to have become one of these great supermarkets; our culture has become more and more competitive. |
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Today’s culture seems to encourage people not to bond with anything or anyone, not to trust. The most important thing nowadays seems to be follow the latest trend or activity. | Today’s culture seems to encourage people not to bond with anything or anyone, not to trust. The most important thing nowadays seems to be follow the latest trend or activity. |
Updated at 3.48pm BST | Updated at 3.48pm BST |
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This was already a packed speech – Francis was expected to speak about the importance of family and the church’s view on marriage – instead, he met with victims of sex abuse this morning and came into the chapel with a message of justice for victims of sex abuse at the hands of priests, and has gone on to speak about the problems with young people putting off marriage. | This was already a packed speech – Francis was expected to speak about the importance of family and the church’s view on marriage – instead, he met with victims of sex abuse this morning and came into the chapel with a message of justice for victims of sex abuse at the hands of priests, and has gone on to speak about the problems with young people putting off marriage. |
He’s still going off script and we’re trying to keep up! | He’s still going off script and we’re trying to keep up! |
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Pope Francis appears to have met with victims of sexual abuse this morning. | Pope Francis appears to have met with victims of sexual abuse this morning. |
Pope Francis confirms that he has met with victims of clerical sexual abuse this morning prior to addressing bishops in the Seminary chapel. | Pope Francis confirms that he has met with victims of clerical sexual abuse this morning prior to addressing bishops in the Seminary chapel. |
Father Thomas Rosica, above, is the English-language spokesperson for the Holy See’s press office. | Father Thomas Rosica, above, is the English-language spokesperson for the Holy See’s press office. |
This is a surprise – Vatican spokesperson Father Federico Lombardi said yesterday he could not confirm whether the Holy Father would meet with the victims of abuse, because he said it could not be a “media” event. | This is a surprise – Vatican spokesperson Father Federico Lombardi said yesterday he could not confirm whether the Holy Father would meet with the victims of abuse, because he said it could not be a “media” event. |
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Pope Francis in off-script child sex abuse remarks: "God weeps." | Pope Francis in off-script child sex abuse remarks: "God weeps." |
Pope Francis just went off script unexpectedly to address child sex abuse in the church: | Pope Francis just went off script unexpectedly to address child sex abuse in the church: |
[It] continues to be on my mind that people who had the responsibility to take care of these tender ones [children] violated that trust and caused them great pain. | [It] continues to be on my mind that people who had the responsibility to take care of these tender ones [children] violated that trust and caused them great pain. |
God weeps for the sexual abuse of children. These cannot be maintained in secret, and I commit to a careful oversight to ensure that youth are protected and all responsible will be held accountable. | God weeps for the sexual abuse of children. These cannot be maintained in secret, and I commit to a careful oversight to ensure that youth are protected and all responsible will be held accountable. |
Those who have survived this abuse have become true heralds of mercy – humbly, we owe each of them our gratitude for their great value as they have had to suffer this terrible abuse sexual abuse of minors. | Those who have survived this abuse have become true heralds of mercy – humbly, we owe each of them our gratitude for their great value as they have had to suffer this terrible abuse sexual abuse of minors. |
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I would like to express my gratitude to the archbishop, and I felt it very important that I shared this message with you today, and I am very happy to be able to share these moments of pastoral reflection with you amid the joyful celebrations of this World Meeting of Families.” | I would like to express my gratitude to the archbishop, and I felt it very important that I shared this message with you today, and I am very happy to be able to share these moments of pastoral reflection with you amid the joyful celebrations of this World Meeting of Families.” |
Francis said these remarks before a prepared speech to bishops at the St Charles Borromeo seminary. He went off script in Spanish; this is the translation of the interpreter for the official papal live stream. | Francis said these remarks before a prepared speech to bishops at the St Charles Borromeo seminary. He went off script in Spanish; this is the translation of the interpreter for the official papal live stream. |
Updated at 3.50pm BST | Updated at 3.50pm BST |
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Pope Francis just entered the hall at St Charles Borromeo to the applause of Catholic seminary students, flanked by his entourage and led by photographers and camera men. | Pope Francis just entered the hall at St Charles Borromeo to the applause of Catholic seminary students, flanked by his entourage and led by photographers and camera men. |
The students are all smiles. | The students are all smiles. |
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The first stop in Pope Francis’s busy schedule in Philadelphia today, the last day of his visit to the United States, begins with a speech to a meeting of bishops at Saint Martin’s Chapel in the Saint Charles Borromeo seminary. Francis has also slept at the seminary while he is in Philadelphia. The speech should begin at about 9:15am. | The first stop in Pope Francis’s busy schedule in Philadelphia today, the last day of his visit to the United States, begins with a speech to a meeting of bishops at Saint Martin’s Chapel in the Saint Charles Borromeo seminary. Francis has also slept at the seminary while he is in Philadelphia. The speech should begin at about 9:15am. |
Seminarians are already lined up along a hall at St Charles Borromeo, single-file behind a velvet rope. We can also see other church officials walking the corridor. | Seminarians are already lined up along a hall at St Charles Borromeo, single-file behind a velvet rope. We can also see other church officials walking the corridor. |
The men standing in the hall (only men can be ordained) are continually leaning in to see if they can catch a glimpse of the Holy Father. | The men standing in the hall (only men can be ordained) are continually leaning in to see if they can catch a glimpse of the Holy Father. |
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Good morning, and welcome to the Guardian’s continuing coverage of Pope Francis’ historic visit to the US. Today is the pontiff’s final day in the Americas, day nine of a tour that began in Havana and has since taken in Washington, New York and Philadelphia. | Good morning, and welcome to the Guardian’s continuing coverage of Pope Francis’ historic visit to the US. Today is the pontiff’s final day in the Americas, day nine of a tour that began in Havana and has since taken in Washington, New York and Philadelphia. |
He remains in the City of Brotherly Love today, with a visit to Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility on the schedule before a mass for the conclusion of the World Meeting of Families on Benjamin Franklin Parkway. After that, this evening, Francis will fly back to Rome. | He remains in the City of Brotherly Love today, with a visit to Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility on the schedule before a mass for the conclusion of the World Meeting of Families on Benjamin Franklin Parkway. After that, this evening, Francis will fly back to Rome. |
In his remarks to the Festival of Families on Saturday night, Francis struck a lighter tone than in previous speeches, in which he has addressed immigration, climate change, women’s rights and other weighty – and, in the US, controversial – subjects. | In his remarks to the Festival of Families on Saturday night, Francis struck a lighter tone than in previous speeches, in which he has addressed immigration, climate change, women’s rights and other weighty – and, in the US, controversial – subjects. |
Going off script, the pontiff joked and riffed on the subject of family. This from Rory Carroll and Alan Yuhas at the scene: | Going off script, the pontiff joked and riffed on the subject of family. This from Rory Carroll and Alan Yuhas at the scene: |
The pastoral address ignored the culture wars and instead veered between piety, homespun advice and laughs – including a line about mothers-in-law. | The pastoral address ignored the culture wars and instead veered between piety, homespun advice and laughs – including a line about mothers-in-law. |
“You know what God loves most?” he asked the crowd, hushed and enraptured on a moonlit night. “To knock on the door of families and to find the families who love each other – families who bring up their children to grow and to move forward. Who create, who develop a society of truth, goodness and beauty.” | “You know what God loves most?” he asked the crowd, hushed and enraptured on a moonlit night. “To knock on the door of families and to find the families who love each other – families who bring up their children to grow and to move forward. Who create, who develop a society of truth, goodness and beauty.” |
In the meantime, you can see how the pope’s visit has affected the good folk of Philadelphia here, and how it has affected long-suffering, miracle-needing Philadelphia Eagles fans here – all thanks to Jessica Lee, Sarah Eberspacher and Jana Kasperkevic. | In the meantime, you can see how the pope’s visit has affected the good folk of Philadelphia here, and how it has affected long-suffering, miracle-needing Philadelphia Eagles fans here – all thanks to Jessica Lee, Sarah Eberspacher and Jana Kasperkevic. |