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David Cameron has accused First Minister Carwyn Jones of "playing politics" over the assembly's powers ahead of the 2016 election. | |
The prime minister denied Mr Jones's claim that the UK government's plans could reduce the assembly's powers. | The prime minister denied Mr Jones's claim that the UK government's plans could reduce the assembly's powers. |
Mr Cameron said talks were taking place "in good faith" and he had agreed to protect Welsh government funding. | |
A "floor" to the Barnett formula, which sets the Welsh share of UK government spending, is expected in November. | |
After the 2014 referendum on Scottish independence, Mr Cameron promised to give the people of Wales "a bigger say over their affairs". | |
But Welsh Secretary Stephen Crabb has said he is pessimistic an agreement on the next stage of devolution can be reached with ministers in Cardiff. | But Welsh Secretary Stephen Crabb has said he is pessimistic an agreement on the next stage of devolution can be reached with ministers in Cardiff. |
In an interview for BBC Wales, Mr Cameron said: "First of all, my government actually held that [2011] referendum on powers for the Welsh assembly, so that's already been delivered. | |
"Stephen's been working with others to put together the St David's Day agreement and this work is ongoing. | "Stephen's been working with others to put together the St David's Day agreement and this work is ongoing. |
"It requires agreement, and we've been talking in good faith with the other parties in Wales and that's what needs to happen. | "It requires agreement, and we've been talking in good faith with the other parties in Wales and that's what needs to happen. |
'Very good record' | 'Very good record' |
"This needs to be an agreed measure but that shouldn't stop what I would call 'real devolution' which is giving people in Wales more power over their lives. | "This needs to be an agreed measure but that shouldn't stop what I would call 'real devolution' which is giving people in Wales more power over their lives. |
"We have cut taxes for people in Wales, we're keen for people in Wales to be able to own their own homes, to take greater powers over their lives, so that will continue while the politicians are still talking." | "We have cut taxes for people in Wales, we're keen for people in Wales to be able to own their own homes, to take greater powers over their lives, so that will continue while the politicians are still talking." |
The UK government is due to publish later in October draft plans to change the way devolution works in an attempt to set out more clearly who runs what. | |
But Carwyn Jones has suggested the current proposals could lead to a rolling-back of the current settlement. | But Carwyn Jones has suggested the current proposals could lead to a rolling-back of the current settlement. |
The prime minister said: "I don't accept that for a moment, and also this is the first government in history that has guaranteed to put a floor under Welsh funding. | The prime minister said: "I don't accept that for a moment, and also this is the first government in history that has guaranteed to put a floor under Welsh funding. |
"So I think there's a bit of politics playing by the first minister, probably because there are elections coming up next year. | |
"But look, I think my government has a very good record of holding that referendum, enhancing the powers of the Welsh assembly, going into the St David's Day talks in good faith prepared to give further powers to the Welsh people through their parliament and setting a funding floor for Wales." | |
Analysis by Paul Martin, BBC Wales political reporter | |
The row centres on which powers should remain under the control of the UK government under further devolution. | |
A list of those policy areas is being drawn up as part of a new piece of UK government legislation called the Wales Bill. | |
Up to now, specific powers have been devolved to Cardiff Bay but a change of approach means that, in future, everything not listed in the bill will be assumed to be devolved. | |
Earlier in 2015 the main parties agreed on certain things that should be transferred to the assembly, including control over some energy projects, electoral arrangements and areas of transport policy. | |
But now there's disagreement over just what the list of reserved powers - those that will stay at Westminster - should contain. | |
Carwyn Jones has said he will not accept any attempt to weaken the powers of the assembly. | |
David Cameron denies the legislation will do that, and has described his record on devolution as "very good". | |
The first draft of the Wales Bill is expected to be published later in October. |