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John McDonnell: I've changed tactics, not policy on economy John McDonnell: I've changed tactics, not policy on economy
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John McDonnell has insisted he changed his mind on tactics - not policy - after ditching the party's support for the government's fiscal charter.John McDonnell has insisted he changed his mind on tactics - not policy - after ditching the party's support for the government's fiscal charter.
The shadow chancellor said Labour would oppose the bid to force future governments to run a budget surplus, having recently said it would back it.The shadow chancellor said Labour would oppose the bid to force future governments to run a budget surplus, having recently said it would back it.
The situation was branded a "shambles" after MPs were told about the U-turn at a stormy meeting at Westminster.The situation was branded a "shambles" after MPs were told about the U-turn at a stormy meeting at Westminster.
Mr McDonnell said Labour would now draw up its own fiscal charter.Mr McDonnell said Labour would now draw up its own fiscal charter.
He said work on this would start "tomorrow", adding that Labour would create a "new economic paradigm" and was bringing in a "new politics".He said work on this would start "tomorrow", adding that Labour would create a "new economic paradigm" and was bringing in a "new politics".
"We want people to pay their way but not in terms of income tax. We think people are taxed enough - ordinary low and middle earners - it will be the corporations who should pay their way," he said."We want people to pay their way but not in terms of income tax. We think people are taxed enough - ordinary low and middle earners - it will be the corporations who should pay their way," he said.
Asked why he had U-turned on supporting Chancellor George Osborne's bill - which commits future governments to balance their budget each year - he said that a trip to meet those hit by the Redcar steelworks closure had prompted the change of mind.Asked why he had U-turned on supporting Chancellor George Osborne's bill - which commits future governments to balance their budget each year - he said that a trip to meet those hit by the Redcar steelworks closure had prompted the change of mind.
He said that as a result he did not want Labour associated "in any way" with the austerity policies of the government.He said that as a result he did not want Labour associated "in any way" with the austerity policies of the government.
Austerity battleAusterity battle
Mr McDonnell said he had changed his mind on parliamentary tactics but denied changing his economic policy. He said they had seen the bill as a "gimmick" so had intended to "ridicule it" by voting for it. He said Labour had also intended to try and amend the bill, but parliamentary processes had stopped them being able to.Mr McDonnell said he had changed his mind on parliamentary tactics but denied changing his economic policy. He said they had seen the bill as a "gimmick" so had intended to "ridicule it" by voting for it. He said Labour had also intended to try and amend the bill, but parliamentary processes had stopped them being able to.
Mr McDonnell's interview came after he had to explain the move at a shadow cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning which was described as "more reflective" than the heated meeting of Labour MPs on Monday.Mr McDonnell's interview came after he had to explain the move at a shadow cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning which was described as "more reflective" than the heated meeting of Labour MPs on Monday.
The BBC's Eleanor Garnier said some at that meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party had reacted in fury at the decision - one which BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg says Mr Corbyn had "no idea" was coming.The BBC's Eleanor Garnier said some at that meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party had reacted in fury at the decision - one which BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg says Mr Corbyn had "no idea" was coming.
Former shadow chancellor Chris Leslie criticised the U-turn and said Labour should set out its own motion.Former shadow chancellor Chris Leslie criticised the U-turn and said Labour should set out its own motion.
"To go from one extreme to the other is wrong in economic terms but also it sends the wrong message to the general public as well," Mr Leslie told BBC Radio 4's Today programme."To go from one extreme to the other is wrong in economic terms but also it sends the wrong message to the general public as well," Mr Leslie told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
Analysis by BBC political correspondent Iain Watson Analysis by Laura Kuenssberg, BBC political editor
The vast majority of Labour MPs didn't want Jeremy Corbyn as their leader - and they anticipated that divisions would be inevitable on everything from nuclear weapons to Syria. But what rattled them at last night's meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party wasn't the politics of the leadership, but a perceived lack of competence. If it's all a political trick why should anyone care? Diane Abbott, the shadow international development secretary tried to laugh off the chaos at the weekly gathering of Labour MPs last night when she was put up to defend the policy today.
They assumed at the very least that the straight-talking of the leadership election would have become embedded. Instead they had a lack of clarity from a leader who largely remained silent while some of his supporters were verbally savaged by sceptical MPs - as his shadow chancellor reversed his position of just a fortnight ago not to oppose George Osborne's fiscal charter. They were also dismayed at the lack of consultation about a potentially significant change of direction. Labour's change of heart, withdrawing its support for George Osborne's attempt to make it illegal for governments to spend more than they have, was she argued, nothing more than her party's ongoing commitment to Keynsian economics. And the chancellor's efforts are all a dastardly trap that doesn't matter.
So they are now nervous about what else might go wrong and whether the approach of near-peaceful co-existence is sustainable. Yet the U-turn, however badly effected, wasn't without logic. If Labour gets an even worse result in next year's Scottish elections - and polls suggest it might - than in 2011, pressure will mount on the Corbyn leadership. The SNP will vote against the fiscal charter this week and would have been delighted to see Labour pay lip service to it. Nicola Sturgeon could then portray her party as the only major political force that opposed austerity. There is a logic to opposing the bill. One senior figure in the party told me this morning, without being able to borrow to invest "there is no Labour economic story".
So while still insisting he isn't a "deficit denier" John McDonnell had to protect his party's left flank. But the manner and speed of his manoeuvre has left many of his own MPs dazed and confused. And for Jeremy Corbyn's anti-austerity message to stick, it was odd that his close colleague John McDonnell had supported the idea in the first place.
Kuenssberg: Why U-turn is no laughing matter The Scottish Labour leader, Kezia Dugdale was among those who argued that position could not stick.
Read Laura's blog in full
Flashpoints: Corbyn v his MPsFlashpoints: Corbyn v his MPs
But one of leader Jeremy Corbyn's allies, shadow international development secretary Diane Abbott, said some in the party were "only slowly coming to terms with the fact that Jeremy won" the leadership contest.But one of leader Jeremy Corbyn's allies, shadow international development secretary Diane Abbott, said some in the party were "only slowly coming to terms with the fact that Jeremy won" the leadership contest.
She said the row over Mr McDonnell's change of heart was "a process story" and said most of the Parliamentary Labour Party were comfortable with the position being taken.She said the row over Mr McDonnell's change of heart was "a process story" and said most of the Parliamentary Labour Party were comfortable with the position being taken.
"I suspect my colleagues, on reflection, will calm down," she added."I suspect my colleagues, on reflection, will calm down," she added.
MPs will debate and vote on Chancellor George Osborne's Charter for Budget Responsibility on Wednesday.MPs will debate and vote on Chancellor George Osborne's Charter for Budget Responsibility on Wednesday.
The charter would legally prevent future governments from spending more than they receive in tax revenue when the economy is growing.The charter would legally prevent future governments from spending more than they receive in tax revenue when the economy is growing.
The proposal commits the government to keep debt falling as a share of GDP each year and achieve a budget surplus by 2019-20. Governments will then be required to ensure there is a surplus in "normal times".The proposal commits the government to keep debt falling as a share of GDP each year and achieve a budget surplus by 2019-20. Governments will then be required to ensure there is a surplus in "normal times".
Chancellor George Osborne said Labour's economic policy had "lurched from chaos to incredibility".Chancellor George Osborne said Labour's economic policy had "lurched from chaos to incredibility".
"Two weeks ago ‎they said they were going to vote for a surplus - now we know they want to keep on borrowing forever. That would be a grave threat to the economic security of working people‎," he said."Two weeks ago ‎they said they were going to vote for a surplus - now we know they want to keep on borrowing forever. That would be a grave threat to the economic security of working people‎," he said.
At the weekend, SNP leader and Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon challenged Labour to join her party in voting against the charter.At the weekend, SNP leader and Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon challenged Labour to join her party in voting against the charter.
Welcoming the U-turn, Angus Robertson, SNP leader at Westminster, said it was "promising" but added it was "disgraceful there has had to be any doubt that the Labour Party would oppose Tory cuts".Welcoming the U-turn, Angus Robertson, SNP leader at Westminster, said it was "promising" but added it was "disgraceful there has had to be any doubt that the Labour Party would oppose Tory cuts".
He said the vote would be a major test for Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, claiming Labour's credibility "would be in ruins" unless every one of its MPs voted against the charter.He said the vote would be a major test for Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, claiming Labour's credibility "would be in ruins" unless every one of its MPs voted against the charter.
The independent Office for Budget Responsibility would be responsible for policing the new rules.The independent Office for Budget Responsibility would be responsible for policing the new rules.
It would also have the power to decide when the government should be able to spend more than it is taking in revenue - for example, when the country is in a recession.It would also have the power to decide when the government should be able to spend more than it is taking in revenue - for example, when the country is in a recession.