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New poll narrows Coalition's lead over Labor – politics live New poll narrows Coalition's lead over Labor – politics live
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Let's pack it in before we all lose itLet's pack it in before we all lose it
Right, that’s enough for a Tuesday. Thank you all for lovely company throughout today. Mike and I will be back shaking our tail feathers bright and early tomorrow morning.Right, that’s enough for a Tuesday. Thank you all for lovely company throughout today. Mike and I will be back shaking our tail feathers bright and early tomorrow morning.
Let’s review Tuesday.Let’s review Tuesday.
There was more, but that’s the main bits.There was more, but that’s the main bits.
Have a lovely evening. Let’s regroup in the morning times.Have a lovely evening. Let’s regroup in the morning times.
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Sometimes it is very hard not to lose it.Sometimes it is very hard not to lose it.
I can't get enough of @JoshFrydenberg laughing during #qt today. pic.twitter.com/UBsEncigyQI can't get enough of @JoshFrydenberg laughing during #qt today. pic.twitter.com/UBsEncigyQ
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Just in case we missed Bob Katter’s theatrical exit from the chamber during question time, the Queensland MP has issued a statement.Just in case we missed Bob Katter’s theatrical exit from the chamber during question time, the Queensland MP has issued a statement.
The statement reads: “After walking out of question time in disgust, Mr Katter said that the minister’s reply was the usual lecture on ‘Paul Keating Liberal Party Market Fundamentalism’.”The statement reads: “After walking out of question time in disgust, Mr Katter said that the minister’s reply was the usual lecture on ‘Paul Keating Liberal Party Market Fundamentalism’.”
Bob Katter:Bob Katter:
It showed not the slightest interest in every person who is striving to create export markets in northern Australia. If there is one choke on northern development, it is that all products north of the trading ports of Townsville and Port Hedland have to go through Darwin. But who would develop any project knowing that it has to go through a turnpike called the Port of Darwin? It’s not a port - it’s a money collector for a Chinese corporation. There are massive phosphate, iron ore and copper reserves in northern Australia, but who’s going to develop them in the knowledge they can be skinned alive with port charges? And what is the point in the government putting $700m into a railway line that goes direct to a foreign-owned monopolistic port? Every single development will now pay a toll – a discretionary toll of whatever level the Chinese owner feels like setting. You’d have to be mad to build a business that would export product anywhere in northern Australia under those conditions.It showed not the slightest interest in every person who is striving to create export markets in northern Australia. If there is one choke on northern development, it is that all products north of the trading ports of Townsville and Port Hedland have to go through Darwin. But who would develop any project knowing that it has to go through a turnpike called the Port of Darwin? It’s not a port - it’s a money collector for a Chinese corporation. There are massive phosphate, iron ore and copper reserves in northern Australia, but who’s going to develop them in the knowledge they can be skinned alive with port charges? And what is the point in the government putting $700m into a railway line that goes direct to a foreign-owned monopolistic port? Every single development will now pay a toll – a discretionary toll of whatever level the Chinese owner feels like setting. You’d have to be mad to build a business that would export product anywhere in northern Australia under those conditions.
The Katter statement also makes it clear he didn’t like ministers erupting in laughter at his antics.The Katter statement also makes it clear he didn’t like ministers erupting in laughter at his antics.
The minister for northern Australia, Josh Frydenberg, completely lost it.The minister for northern Australia, Josh Frydenberg, completely lost it.
ICYMI, Mike captured Katter on his way out the door.ICYMI, Mike captured Katter on his way out the door.
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Another new opinion poll this afternoon – Essential. Unlike the Ipsos poll earlier this week, which put the Coalition with a commanding lead, Essential’s two-party-preferred number is Coalition 51%, Labor 49%. This data in this particular poll is based on two-week averages, so we’d expect it to be slower to record a surge by either party, but today’s figure is more in line with last week’s Newspoll, which had the major parties in a dead heat at 50-50. Anyway, there’s little point in second-guessing anything much at this point, there’s nothing to do but wait and see how the trend plays out for Turnbull in the coming weeks and months.Another new opinion poll this afternoon – Essential. Unlike the Ipsos poll earlier this week, which put the Coalition with a commanding lead, Essential’s two-party-preferred number is Coalition 51%, Labor 49%. This data in this particular poll is based on two-week averages, so we’d expect it to be slower to record a surge by either party, but today’s figure is more in line with last week’s Newspoll, which had the major parties in a dead heat at 50-50. Anyway, there’s little point in second-guessing anything much at this point, there’s nothing to do but wait and see how the trend plays out for Turnbull in the coming weeks and months.
A couple of interesting questions.A couple of interesting questions.
Q. Do you approve or disapprove of the way the prime minister Malcolm Turnbull is handling the threat of terrorism in Australia?Q. Do you approve or disapprove of the way the prime minister Malcolm Turnbull is handling the threat of terrorism in Australia?
(Who’d have thunk it, eh? Turn down the volume to a reasonable level, look to approach the national security issue constructively and inclusively, and voters have more confidence in the strategy.)(Who’d have thunk it, eh? Turn down the volume to a reasonable level, look to approach the national security issue constructively and inclusively, and voters have more confidence in the strategy.)
Q. Under new national security laws phone and internet records of all Australians will be held for two years. How much trust do you have in the following organisations to store your personal data safely and in a way that would prevent abuse?Q. Under new national security laws phone and internet records of all Australians will be held for two years. How much trust do you have in the following organisations to store your personal data safely and in a way that would prevent abuse?
Q. Which of the following statements is closest to your view?Q. Which of the following statements is closest to your view?
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A couple more Bowers pictures that I have not yet had time to use.A couple more Bowers pictures that I have not yet had time to use.
Health minister Sussan Ley, working on her bone density.Health minister Sussan Ley, working on her bone density.
And Nick Xenophon doing what he does better than most occupants of this building: getting on the TV news. He is a grab-dropping genius.And Nick Xenophon doing what he does better than most occupants of this building: getting on the TV news. He is a grab-dropping genius.
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Back to the Murray response. It’s treasurer Scott Morrison’s turn in the Sky studio.Back to the Murray response. It’s treasurer Scott Morrison’s turn in the Sky studio.
Q: Will interest rates go up as a consequence of the new bank capitalisation requirements?Q: Will interest rates go up as a consequence of the new bank capitalisation requirements?
Morrison:Morrison:
That’s a commercial decision for the banks at the end of the day.That’s a commercial decision for the banks at the end of the day.
Morrison says big banks to tend to pass on increased costs to their customers, unlike small businesses, which absorb increases in their operating costs.Morrison says big banks to tend to pass on increased costs to their customers, unlike small businesses, which absorb increases in their operating costs.
Q: Do they have a reason to blame you for this?Q: Do they have a reason to blame you for this?
No they don’t.No they don’t.
We are on credit card surcharges now. Morrison makes a big call.We are on credit card surcharges now. Morrison makes a big call.
We are banning profiteering on these fees.We are banning profiteering on these fees.
Sorry. Not really, no.Sorry. Not really, no.
This is from today’s statement on the Murray response.This is from today’s statement on the Murray response.
“Banning profiteering” isn’t this.“Banning profiteering” isn’t this.
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Manager of opposition business Tony Burke has issued a statement about the proposed changes to question time procedure – the government’s plan to turn over more questions to the backbench on constituency matters.Manager of opposition business Tony Burke has issued a statement about the proposed changes to question time procedure – the government’s plan to turn over more questions to the backbench on constituency matters.
Tony Burke:Tony Burke:
This is just more talk from Malcolm Turnbull. Government MPs can already ask ministers questions about their electorates both in question time and in writing. While the detail around today’s announcement is scant, it appears all it will do is change how the government plans to ask questions to itself. If this results in fewer theatrical performances from ministers reading scripted attacks, noone would objet to this. This is just a change to the government’s tactics, not a change to any rules.This is just more talk from Malcolm Turnbull. Government MPs can already ask ministers questions about their electorates both in question time and in writing. While the detail around today’s announcement is scant, it appears all it will do is change how the government plans to ask questions to itself. If this results in fewer theatrical performances from ministers reading scripted attacks, noone would objet to this. This is just a change to the government’s tactics, not a change to any rules.
If the government decides to take one step further and change the standing orders to dictate questions the opposition can ask, this would be fiercely resisted. We must not see a decrease in transparency and Labor will be following this closely.If the government decides to take one step further and change the standing orders to dictate questions the opposition can ask, this would be fiercely resisted. We must not see a decrease in transparency and Labor will be following this closely.
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Powering forth, the architect of the Murray report, David Murray, is being interviewed by Sky News on the events of the day. Murray is asked whether the banks have any excuse to put up interest rates in the wake of the new capital ratio requirements. He steps quite carefully around that question, avoiding a straight answer.Powering forth, the architect of the Murray report, David Murray, is being interviewed by Sky News on the events of the day. Murray is asked whether the banks have any excuse to put up interest rates in the wake of the new capital ratio requirements. He steps quite carefully around that question, avoiding a straight answer.
Murray is asked how the government can actually bring down credit card surcharges. He says charging a surcharge above cost is not appropriate, but as to the specifics –Murray is asked how the government can actually bring down credit card surcharges. He says charging a surcharge above cost is not appropriate, but as to the specifics –
That’s up to the payments system board to enforce.That’s up to the payments system board to enforce.
How easy will it be to introduce more competition in the superannuation sector? Murray says default funds have been opened up elsewhere and when that happens there’s a decrease in costs.How easy will it be to introduce more competition in the superannuation sector? Murray says default funds have been opened up elsewhere and when that happens there’s a decrease in costs.
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Malsplaining™, a sequence.Malsplaining™, a sequence.
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Just a slight delay in picture transmission today. My system has had some gremlins. Before we side stroke on, here’s a selection of Mike Bowers fabulousness from the chamber today.Just a slight delay in picture transmission today. My system has had some gremlins. Before we side stroke on, here’s a selection of Mike Bowers fabulousness from the chamber today.
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Further questions have been placed on the notice paper. I’ll survey the world outside the chamber briefly and be back to deliver Tuesday afternoon.Further questions have been placed on the notice paper. I’ll survey the world outside the chamber briefly and be back to deliver Tuesday afternoon.
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Cheer up Joe, today is either your last or second-last question time.Cheer up Joe, today is either your last or second-last question time.
Kevin Andrews is not decamping, but he has John Howard’s Chesterfield.Kevin Andrews is not decamping, but he has John Howard’s Chesterfield.
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Bowen is back to the dispatch box.Bowen is back to the dispatch box.
Q: Can the treasurer confirm that next financial year, gross debt is forecast is to be $100bn higher than when the Liberal government was elected?Q: Can the treasurer confirm that next financial year, gross debt is forecast is to be $100bn higher than when the Liberal government was elected?
A short barrage of numbers from Morrison followed by the nub point: it’s higher.A short barrage of numbers from Morrison followed by the nub point: it’s higher.
Then, the treasurer says, it will fall.Then, the treasurer says, it will fall.
I will tell you why it will fall. The reason it will fall is because this government has a program to ensure we get control of expenditure and expenditure as a percentage of GDP will decline over the forward estimates because we have a plan to control expenditure.I will tell you why it will fall. The reason it will fall is because this government has a program to ensure we get control of expenditure and expenditure as a percentage of GDP will decline over the forward estimates because we have a plan to control expenditure.
What goes up, must come ..What goes up, must come ..
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Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen, to treasurer Scott Morrison.Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen, to treasurer Scott Morrison.
Q: My question is to the treasurer. When does the prime minister project the budget will return to surplus?Q: My question is to the treasurer. When does the prime minister project the budget will return to surplus?
Scott Morrison:Scott Morrison:
When expenditure is less than revenue.When expenditure is less than revenue.
(Pay that.)(Pay that.)
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A fair dose of the Malsplain in this particular session. Delightful in its expansive fashion. A person, talking in sentences. Like a nice breeze. But might wear just a teensy bit thin.A fair dose of the Malsplain in this particular session. Delightful in its expansive fashion. A person, talking in sentences. Like a nice breeze. But might wear just a teensy bit thin.
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Labor has moved to marriage equality.Labor has moved to marriage equality.
Q: Given the prime minister has said he doesn’t want marriage equality to be a live issue all the way up to the next election, will the prime minister allow a free vote on the co sponsored private member’s bill currently before the parliament?Q: Given the prime minister has said he doesn’t want marriage equality to be a live issue all the way up to the next election, will the prime minister allow a free vote on the co sponsored private member’s bill currently before the parliament?
Turnbull thinks he might take a trip down memory lane. Where were you in 1999 Terri Butler? I was leading the republican debate.Turnbull thinks he might take a trip down memory lane. Where were you in 1999 Terri Butler? I was leading the republican debate.
On the marriage equality plebiscite.On the marriage equality plebiscite.
Yes, it will take more time. Yes, it will cost more money. Yes, in my view it will be carried – but time will tell.Yes, it will take more time. Yes, it will cost more money. Yes, in my view it will be carried – but time will tell.
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Turnbull is asked about his disposition towards a bill in the senate which revisits the debate indulged by the Abbott government about changes to hate speech. The debate around changes to the Racial Discrimination Act is a reasonable one, but that bill isn’t going anywhere, the prime minister says.Turnbull is asked about his disposition towards a bill in the senate which revisits the debate indulged by the Abbott government about changes to hate speech. The debate around changes to the Racial Discrimination Act is a reasonable one, but that bill isn’t going anywhere, the prime minister says.
There is a bill in the senate, it has not been considered by the government. I can say that the government does not have any plans to reopen this matter. I imagine it will be a matter of lively discussion in the future.There is a bill in the senate, it has not been considered by the government. I can say that the government does not have any plans to reopen this matter. I imagine it will be a matter of lively discussion in the future.
This was considered some time ago but it is ... I think it’s very important for debates of this kind to be undertaken at the right time and place and in the right context.This was considered some time ago but it is ... I think it’s very important for debates of this kind to be undertaken at the right time and place and in the right context.
We have to bear in mind, and the honourable member would well understand this I’ve got no doubt.We have to bear in mind, and the honourable member would well understand this I’ve got no doubt.
We have to bear in mind that we have in our society, as in all free societies, to balance the demands of free speech, which we are all in favour, with also ensuring domestic harmony.We have to bear in mind that we have in our society, as in all free societies, to balance the demands of free speech, which we are all in favour, with also ensuring domestic harmony.
It is an important debate in a free society that we should have about the limits of speech and the way in which we can best ensure that we preserve social harmony – that we preserve security and at the same time ensure that there is free speech.It is an important debate in a free society that we should have about the limits of speech and the way in which we can best ensure that we preserve social harmony – that we preserve security and at the same time ensure that there is free speech.
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Labor now inquiries why the government is backing off its proposed changes to family tax benefits. Turnbull tells the opposition you can’t have this both ways: attack the proposal and then attack the backdown.Labor now inquiries why the government is backing off its proposed changes to family tax benefits. Turnbull tells the opposition you can’t have this both ways: attack the proposal and then attack the backdown.
The prime minister.The prime minister.
Instead of actually welcoming (the shift), she (shadow families minister Jenny Macklin) stands up in the parliament and wants to attack the government.Instead of actually welcoming (the shift), she (shadow families minister Jenny Macklin) stands up in the parliament and wants to attack the government.
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Speaking of northern Australia, independent MP Bob Katter has an incomprehensible question for Josh Frydenberg, the minister for norther Australia.
Apparently Katter doesn’t care for Frydenberg’s answer. He departs the chamber. Frydenberg loses it, laughing. The chamber joins him.
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We don't support government banks .. errr ..
Labor, persisting.
Q: My question is to the prime minister. Does the prime minister agree that the clean energy finance corporation established by Labor has successfully driven investments in clean energy technology and is helping to cut emissions intensity in our economy? Does the prime minister accept that the Clean Energy Finance Corporation has a crucial role to play in Australia’s efforts to tackle climate change?
Turnbull says it is the government’s policy to scrap the CEFC. Thus far, the parliament has not allowed that to happen.
The prime minister:
It is a fair question ... to ask whether it is necessary as an institution and indeed it was the government’s policy to abolish it because we do not support – we do not support government banks.
(Well, apart the investment fund for northern Australia, set up by the government, which looks a whole lot like the CEFC. Turnbull is astride the barbed wire fence on this question.)
Turnbull says the CEFC is playing a part in reducing emissions.
It plays a part. It is certainly making a contribution. But the reduction of emissions across the board is contributed to by many things.
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The treasurer Scott Morrison is up now on the Murray response. He doesn’t think people should be shackled by superannuation deals. Deals of the Labor sort.
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Labor is sticking with climate.
Q: The prime minister stated earlier in question time today that the only thing that matters in climate change policy is is it going to cut emissions. In March, the department of environment found that by 2020 emissions will be 20% higher than they were at the time this Liberal government was elected. So why is the PM sticking with the discredited direct action policy?
The prime minister rejects the premise of the question, and says the environment minister Greg Hunt will provide particulars.
There is some laughter, but Hunt sails to the dispatch box.
The department of the environment recently released figures which showed that Australia’s latest quarterly emissions were the lowest since 2004, not just in trend but also in seasonal terms. So, let me repeat that – the lowest emissions since 2004 in both trend and seasonal terms.
Labor’s Mark Butler seeks to table the departmental material. He’s waved away.
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Labor opens on the theme of Malcolm Turnbull talking big but delivering little.
Q: The prime minister stated in 2009 ‘I will not lead a party that is not as committed to effective action on climate change as I am.’ But this week it’s been confirmed that not one company will be required to reduce its pollution levels under the Liberals’ direct action plan. Why is the prime minister sticking with such an ineffectively policy to tackle climate change?
Malcolm Turnbull says Labor has one objection.
Now, what the honourable member objects to is that the government does not have as one of its measures an emissions trading scheme. And that is true. We do not. It was repealed. It used to be Coalition policy. It is not anymore.
But the point is, as I have said many times in the past, and am happy to say again, an emissions trading scheme is no more than one mechanicism to reduce emissions.
It is a means to an ends, not the solution.
Now, the fact is that emissions trading schemes have worked better in theory than in practice in the - over the last six or seven years. That is undoubtedly correct.
The mechanisms we have in place which the environment minister has carefully assembled and carefully explained in this chamber will result in Australia meeting the commitments we are taking to Paris – a 26 to 28% cut in emissions.
We will meet those targets, we will meet them with the measures we have. We will review our measures in 2017 and, if they need adjustment, then we will adjust them.
But our commitment to those targets is absolute and honourable members opposite should get used to the fact that we are committed to cutting emissions.
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Cometh the hour, cometh the blogger
It being 2pm ..
The prime minister on indulgence makes a statement about the government’s proposed changes to question time.
Malcolm Turnbull:
Honourable members will understand that the object of question time should be to ensure that local members – members – are able to raise matters of concern to their local electorates.
Turnbull notes if Labor members don’t approve they can continue to do whatever they like, they can continue asking questions written for them by the leader of the opposition’s staff, they can continue doing that.
It is entirely up to the opposition whether they want to give their backbenchers a say or not.
Labor quite grumpy down there.
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Politics el desko
Question time is closing in at great speed so just a quick summary today. Politics, this Tuesday lunchtime.
Don’t leave your chair.
Much more to come.
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A big deal, that Canadian result. Obviously sent Kevin Rudd into a flat swoon.
A happy photographer at the Summer Palace in Beijing. K pic.twitter.com/x0R5vJzFhz
Someone send the smelling salts.
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The only remaining question in Canada appears to be whether or not Justin Trudeau can govern in his own right. I’ll keep you posted.
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Just by the by. Looks like significant change is afoot in Canada – our live blog is telling me Stephen Harper looks to be going out the back door.