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MPs debate cuts in tax credits – Politics Live MPs debate cuts in tax credits – Politics Live
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Business secretary Sajid Javid is giving a statement to MPs on the redundancies at Tata Steel. You can follow the developments on our business live blog.
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Linking to my last post, the Lords will be voting on the government’s tax credits proposals next week. John Pienaar, BBC Radio 5 live’s chief political correspondent, reports that the Liberal Democrats have instructed their peers to vote against the tax credits cuts.
I'm told Lib Dems in the House of Lords will be formally instructed to vote down the Government's plans to cut tax credits... (1/2)
despite fears among senior peers that a veto could provoke a Government backlash and even constitutional retaliation against the Lords.(2/2)
Unlike their team of eight MPs in the commons, the Liberal Democrats are a powerful force in the Lords, where they have 108 peers. The Conservative party does not have a majority in the Lords, but the Salisbury convention dictates that peers shouldn’t vote down legislation that was in a governing party’s manifesto. But Labour and the Lib Dems argue that the Conservative tax credit plans were not in their manifesto – in fact, David Cameron said he wouldn’t cut tax credits in the run-up to May’s general election.
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Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron has released a statement on this afternoon’s opposition day debate on tax credits:
This is George’s Poll Tax. George Osborne’s attack on working families is an aggressive assault on millions of people in Britain.
Saying you are listening is cold comfort to hard working people who face losing a large part of their pay packet.
The Tories promised tax credits were safe during the election but this was completely untrue. It is time for the Chancellor to show the leadership he so badly craves and scrap this disastrous policy.
George Osborne should learn from his own party’s history, and change his mind on tax credits, or give up on any desire he has to be Prime Minister.
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Labour’s Frank Field – who chairs the work and pensions select committee – is tabling a cross-party motion this afternoon to try and secure a backbench debate on the tax credit cuts.Labour’s Frank Field – who chairs the work and pensions select committee – is tabling a cross-party motion this afternoon to try and secure a backbench debate on the tax credit cuts.
The Sun’s Steve Hawkes reports that Zac Goldsmith will be among the three Tories signing it.The Sun’s Steve Hawkes reports that Zac Goldsmith will be among the three Tories signing it.
Confirmed: Zac Goldsmith, David Davis and Stephen McPartland signing Frank Field's call for a Commons motion forcing rethink on tax creditsConfirmed: Zac Goldsmith, David Davis and Stephen McPartland signing Frank Field's call for a Commons motion forcing rethink on tax credits
This is the wording of Field’s motion –This is the wording of Field’s motion –
That this House calls on the Government to bring forward proposals that protect at nil cost the lowest paid workers from the proposed lowering of the earnings threshold and increasing of the taper rate for tax credits.That this House calls on the Government to bring forward proposals that protect at nil cost the lowest paid workers from the proposed lowering of the earnings threshold and increasing of the taper rate for tax credits.
Field writes about his proposal at LabourList. “George Osborne may unwittingly have gifted Labour a detonator with which it can blow up the Tories’ 2020 election strategy,” he writes, adding that his motion has received backing from backbenchers from the Tory party, Labour, Liberal Democrats, UKIP, DUP and Plaid Cymru. Here’s a key extract:Field writes about his proposal at LabourList. “George Osborne may unwittingly have gifted Labour a detonator with which it can blow up the Tories’ 2020 election strategy,” he writes, adding that his motion has received backing from backbenchers from the Tory party, Labour, Liberal Democrats, UKIP, DUP and Plaid Cymru. Here’s a key extract:
This crucial cross-party backing will give us a better chance of winning concessions from Osborne that could protect the poorest workers and their families. Remember, we’ve been here before.This crucial cross-party backing will give us a better chance of winning concessions from Osborne that could protect the poorest workers and their families. Remember, we’ve been here before.
When I helped organise a backbench revolt in 2008 against Gordon Brown’s daft decision to scrap the 10p rate of tax – another all-out assault on low paid workers – Gordon bizarrely decided the best way to compensate the poor was to give tax cuts to the whole population.When I helped organise a backbench revolt in 2008 against Gordon Brown’s daft decision to scrap the 10p rate of tax – another all-out assault on low paid workers – Gordon bizarrely decided the best way to compensate the poor was to give tax cuts to the whole population.
Some MPs are suggesting that Osborne might follow a similar tax-cutting strategy. But he mustn’t. Such a strategy again would compensate everybody – including the whole Cabinet – for a cut being made to the poorest workers’ incomes.Some MPs are suggesting that Osborne might follow a similar tax-cutting strategy. But he mustn’t. Such a strategy again would compensate everybody – including the whole Cabinet – for a cut being made to the poorest workers’ incomes.
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While we wait for the tax credits debate to start in the Commons, here is a live stream of the policy launch event of the Women’s Equality Party.While we wait for the tax credits debate to start in the Commons, here is a live stream of the policy launch event of the Women’s Equality Party.
Here is the party’s first policy document.Here is the party’s first policy document.
They are calling for parliament to be put into ‘special measures’ for two general elections in order to achieve equal representation by 2025.They are calling for parliament to be put into ‘special measures’ for two general elections in order to achieve equal representation by 2025.
The party was founded in March, but now has 45,000 members and supporters across 65 branches, compared with Ukip’s most recent claim to have “more than 40,000” members and the Green party’s 65,000.The party was founded in March, but now has 45,000 members and supporters across 65 branches, compared with Ukip’s most recent claim to have “more than 40,000” members and the Green party’s 65,000.
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Labour’s Kevin Brennan, MP for Cardiff West and shadow business minister, has been granted an urgent question on the crisis in the steel industry today at 12.30.Labour’s Kevin Brennan, MP for Cardiff West and shadow business minister, has been granted an urgent question on the crisis in the steel industry today at 12.30.
UQ granted at 12.30 to @KevinBrennanMP to ask @sajidjavid for statement on action Govt is taking to secure the future of the Steel IndustryUQ granted at 12.30 to @KevinBrennanMP to ask @sajidjavid for statement on action Govt is taking to secure the future of the Steel Industry
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Ahead of this afternoon’s debate, here is an explainer on tax credits.Ahead of this afternoon’s debate, here is an explainer on tax credits.
And here is Owen Jones on the government’s plans.And here is Owen Jones on the government’s plans.
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Tata confirms 1,170 job lossesTata confirms 1,170 job losses
Tata steel has officially announced that it will cut 1,170 jobs. It is being reported that 170 roles will be lost at its plants in Dalzell and Clydebridge and 900 will be lost in Scunthorpe.Tata steel has officially announced that it will cut 1,170 jobs. It is being reported that 170 roles will be lost at its plants in Dalzell and Clydebridge and 900 will be lost in Scunthorpe.
You can follow the story in depth on our business live blog, but I’ll bring you key political reaction here.You can follow the story in depth on our business live blog, but I’ll bring you key political reaction here.
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Lord Warner, a Labour health minister between 2003 and 2007 who has become the first Jeremy Corbyn-era Labour parliamentarian to resign the whip, has been doing the broadcast rounds to justify his decision. Speaking to the BBC News channel, he said:Lord Warner, a Labour health minister between 2003 and 2007 who has become the first Jeremy Corbyn-era Labour parliamentarian to resign the whip, has been doing the broadcast rounds to justify his decision. Speaking to the BBC News channel, he said:
We look nothing like a government-in-waiting at the moment and we show no signs of being able to learn the lessons of the 7th May decision of the British people to desert the Labour party for four other parties. Under Jeremy Corbyn there doesn’t seem to be the willingness to scrutinise what we were doing wrong, to change our policies and adapt so that we can convince the British people that we are a suitable government...We look nothing like a government-in-waiting at the moment and we show no signs of being able to learn the lessons of the 7th May decision of the British people to desert the Labour party for four other parties. Under Jeremy Corbyn there doesn’t seem to be the willingness to scrutinise what we were doing wrong, to change our policies and adapt so that we can convince the British people that we are a suitable government...
[Corbyn] was chosen by a rather bizarre process which means that he doesn’t really have the support of the majority of Labour MPs who were actually democratically elected. He’s got a set of polices which I find it hard to support and I suspect those of us who are of a centre left democratic disposition will find it difficult to support. He shows every willingness to actually allow activists to take over the party’s apparatus.[Corbyn] was chosen by a rather bizarre process which means that he doesn’t really have the support of the majority of Labour MPs who were actually democratically elected. He’s got a set of polices which I find it hard to support and I suspect those of us who are of a centre left democratic disposition will find it difficult to support. He shows every willingness to actually allow activists to take over the party’s apparatus.
Asked why he wasn’t staying to try and help the Labour party succeed, he said:Asked why he wasn’t staying to try and help the Labour party succeed, he said:
I think that what has happened now, partly as a result of the changes Ed Miliband introduced, is it’s become very difficult to change the party’s processes...I think that what has happened now, partly as a result of the changes Ed Miliband introduced, is it’s become very difficult to change the party’s processes...
Warner was asked about comments by John Prescott that his departure was “no great loss”.Warner was asked about comments by John Prescott that his departure was “no great loss”.
I’ve never been on John Prescott’s Christmas card list and I don’t expect to be on that list. It’s not driven by ego. I think it’s ethically wrong for me to be part of a party which I strongly oppose their polices and I strongly oppose their approach to opposition in this country.I’ve never been on John Prescott’s Christmas card list and I don’t expect to be on that list. It’s not driven by ego. I think it’s ethically wrong for me to be part of a party which I strongly oppose their polices and I strongly oppose their approach to opposition in this country.
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Speaking on the Today programme earlier, Philip Hammond also made some interesting comments on Cameron’s attempts to renegotiate the terms of Britain’s EU membership. He said the UK would be looking for “bankable promises” that were legally binding.Speaking on the Today programme earlier, Philip Hammond also made some interesting comments on Cameron’s attempts to renegotiate the terms of Britain’s EU membership. He said the UK would be looking for “bankable promises” that were legally binding.
What we will be looking for is bankable promises, commitments that are legally binding, because we can have international agreements made between the member states which are registered as international agreements, legally binding, to be taken into account by courts in making decisions that will then be incorporated into the treaties at the next opportunity when the treaties are next open.What we will be looking for is bankable promises, commitments that are legally binding, because we can have international agreements made between the member states which are registered as international agreements, legally binding, to be taken into account by courts in making decisions that will then be incorporated into the treaties at the next opportunity when the treaties are next open.
The consensus seems to be that Cameron will not secure treaty change in his renegotiations and Hammond’s comments sound almost like a direct response to something Crispin Blunt, the chairman of the foreign affairs select committee, said on Friday.The consensus seems to be that Cameron will not secure treaty change in his renegotiations and Hammond’s comments sound almost like a direct response to something Crispin Blunt, the chairman of the foreign affairs select committee, said on Friday.
...whatever [Cameron] gets is probably going to be unbankable. It’s not a treaty change, it will be a promise of a treaty change....whatever [Cameron] gets is probably going to be unbankable. It’s not a treaty change, it will be a promise of a treaty change.
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The Mirror’s front page today calls on the prime minister not to “kowtow to the Chinese president today” and launches their Save Our Steel campaign.The Mirror’s front page today calls on the prime minister not to “kowtow to the Chinese president today” and launches their Save Our Steel campaign.
MIRROR: Show us some steel, Mr Cameron #tomorrowspaperstoday #BBCPapers pic.twitter.com/I6BeQGORCcMIRROR: Show us some steel, Mr Cameron #tomorrowspaperstoday #BBCPapers pic.twitter.com/I6BeQGORCc
Up to 15,000 workers risk losing their jobs as our steel industry fights for survival. Today the Mirror launches a Save Our Steel campaign and we call on David Cameron to take decisive action. When he meets President Xi he must tackle the issue of cut-price Chinese imports that are flooding our market. Then he must put real measures in place to protect and revive our own plants – before it’s too late.Up to 15,000 workers risk losing their jobs as our steel industry fights for survival. Today the Mirror launches a Save Our Steel campaign and we call on David Cameron to take decisive action. When he meets President Xi he must tackle the issue of cut-price Chinese imports that are flooding our market. Then he must put real measures in place to protect and revive our own plants – before it’s too late.
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Here’s a round-up of some of this morning’s political stories which you may have missed:Here’s a round-up of some of this morning’s political stories which you may have missed:
Welcome to the launch of Call Me Dave and I’m sorry that I cannot be with you this evening. As you will have just seen, I have been a little preoccupied for the last four weeks. I haven’t of course set foot in the UK since my illness, but I am reliably informed that my book has caused a bit of a stir.Welcome to the launch of Call Me Dave and I’m sorry that I cannot be with you this evening. As you will have just seen, I have been a little preoccupied for the last four weeks. I haven’t of course set foot in the UK since my illness, but I am reliably informed that my book has caused a bit of a stir.
The BoE’s intervention has been encouraged by Downing Street and is designed to set the scene for the referendum debate over the coming months as David Cameron seeks to renegotiate Britain’s terms of membership.The BoE’s intervention has been encouraged by Downing Street and is designed to set the scene for the referendum debate over the coming months as David Cameron seeks to renegotiate Britain’s terms of membership.
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Good Morning.Good Morning.
The Chinese president Xi Jinping and his wife Peng Liyuan arrived at Heathrow last night for the first official visit by a Chinese head of state since Hu Jintao in 2005. They were greeted on behalf of the Queen by Viscount Hood and by foreign secretary Philip Hammond.The Chinese president Xi Jinping and his wife Peng Liyuan arrived at Heathrow last night for the first official visit by a Chinese head of state since Hu Jintao in 2005. They were greeted on behalf of the Queen by Viscount Hood and by foreign secretary Philip Hammond.
Today president Xi will receive a ceremonial welcome at Horse Guards Parade – which has been adorned with large red flags along side the union jack – before travelling in a carriage procession along The Mall to Buckingham Palace.Today president Xi will receive a ceremonial welcome at Horse Guards Parade – which has been adorned with large red flags along side the union jack – before travelling in a carriage procession along The Mall to Buckingham Palace.
Xi is also expected to address members of parliament and will meet Jeremy Corbyn this afternoon. He will then be welcomed at a state banquet at Buckingham Palace this evening.Xi is also expected to address members of parliament and will meet Jeremy Corbyn this afternoon. He will then be welcomed at a state banquet at Buckingham Palace this evening.
Hammond has just been speaking on the BBC’s Today programme, defending the government against criticism for the seeming warmth of the UK’s developing relationship with China.Hammond has just been speaking on the BBC’s Today programme, defending the government against criticism for the seeming warmth of the UK’s developing relationship with China.
I don’t think we’re naive, we go into all relationships with our eyes wide open and we have to make judgements and balances of the different advantages and disadvantages of any relationship that we go into.I don’t think we’re naive, we go into all relationships with our eyes wide open and we have to make judgements and balances of the different advantages and disadvantages of any relationship that we go into.
...Let’s be clear, the United States is out closest ally and will remain our closest ally. We have a strong strategic partnership with the United States but that does not prevent us from engaging with a country like China, which has an increasingly important economy, which has been emerging into the international community, playing an increasing role and we want to be able to work with the Chinese to be able to shape the way they engage with the world, to be able to carry out activities with them that are in the mutual interest......Let’s be clear, the United States is out closest ally and will remain our closest ally. We have a strong strategic partnership with the United States but that does not prevent us from engaging with a country like China, which has an increasingly important economy, which has been emerging into the international community, playing an increasing role and we want to be able to work with the Chinese to be able to shape the way they engage with the world, to be able to carry out activities with them that are in the mutual interest...
I think we are developing a mature relationship with the Chinese, they know that we are looking, not just to China, but to many other countries for infrastructure investments in the UK. Chinese investors are very keen to have a piece of this action. There aren’t many stable, mature economies around the world that are open to large scale infrastructure investment and we are one of them.I think we are developing a mature relationship with the Chinese, they know that we are looking, not just to China, but to many other countries for infrastructure investments in the UK. Chinese investors are very keen to have a piece of this action. There aren’t many stable, mature economies around the world that are open to large scale infrastructure investment and we are one of them.
We have a separate live blog on the Chinese state visit here, but I’ll bring you some of the more political developments from the story.We have a separate live blog on the Chinese state visit here, but I’ll bring you some of the more political developments from the story.
This afternoon in the commons there will be an opposition day debate on the government’s tax credits plans. Paul Johnson, head of the Institute for Fiscal Studies – which served the government a blow when it announced after the budget that “unequivocally, tax credit recipients in work will be made worse off” – was speaking on the Today programme earlier.This afternoon in the commons there will be an opposition day debate on the government’s tax credits plans. Paul Johnson, head of the Institute for Fiscal Studies – which served the government a blow when it announced after the budget that “unequivocally, tax credit recipients in work will be made worse off” – was speaking on the Today programme earlier.
[Work incentives] are an important part of the whole tax credit system and in the end that is part of the reason why tax credits were introduced in the first place and it’s probably important to be clear that, wherever we end up in 2017, it’s still going to be a much more generous system than we had back in 1997, the total level of spending back to around 2003 levels, not back to a world before tax credits.[Work incentives] are an important part of the whole tax credit system and in the end that is part of the reason why tax credits were introduced in the first place and it’s probably important to be clear that, wherever we end up in 2017, it’s still going to be a much more generous system than we had back in 1997, the total level of spending back to around 2003 levels, not back to a world before tax credits.
But, he said:But, he said:
Actually these changes, they’re certainly hitting people further down the income distribution than the changes that were made under the last parliament but the Chancellor made quite a big choice in the Budget, he’s decided actually to hit people in work rather harder than people out of work.Actually these changes, they’re certainly hitting people further down the income distribution than the changes that were made under the last parliament but the Chancellor made quite a big choice in the Budget, he’s decided actually to hit people in work rather harder than people out of work.
In this morning’s papers, George Osborne has claimed that if he had not acted to slash the tax credits bill then £15bn worth of spending cuts would have had to be found elsewhere. He made the comments to coincide with a meeting of the party’s 1922 backbench committee, many of whom are said to be anxious about the effect the cuts to tax credits (the first round of which will come in before Christmas) will have on their constituents.In this morning’s papers, George Osborne has claimed that if he had not acted to slash the tax credits bill then £15bn worth of spending cuts would have had to be found elsewhere. He made the comments to coincide with a meeting of the party’s 1922 backbench committee, many of whom are said to be anxious about the effect the cuts to tax credits (the first round of which will come in before Christmas) will have on their constituents.
I’ll be covering for Andrew this week, bringing you breaking political news as it happens, as well as bringing you the best reaction, comment and analysis from the web.I’ll be covering for Andrew this week, bringing you breaking political news as it happens, as well as bringing you the best reaction, comment and analysis from the web.
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