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Bank of England: governor Carney has 'no regrets' after leaving rates unchanged again - live Bank of England: governor Carney has 'no regrets' after leaving rates unchanged again - live
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UK shares slip on concerns about weak economyUK shares slip on concerns about weak economy
European shares had a mixed day, but German and French markets bucked a cautious trend after positive updates from Adidas and Societe Generale, writes Nick Fletcher.European shares had a mixed day, but German and French markets bucked a cautious trend after positive updates from Adidas and Societe Generale, writes Nick Fletcher.
After an initial rise following the Bank of England’s dovish comments, the UK market fell back as investors fretted about weakness in the country’s economy. The Bank hinted that UK interest rates were not likely to rise as quickly as economists had expected, but it also trimmed its growth and inflation forecasts. Weakness in commodity prices also weighed on UK shares, while there was a certain amount of caution ahead of Friday’s US non-farm payroll numbers. Jasper Lawler, market analyst at CMC Markets, said:After an initial rise following the Bank of England’s dovish comments, the UK market fell back as investors fretted about weakness in the country’s economy. The Bank hinted that UK interest rates were not likely to rise as quickly as economists had expected, but it also trimmed its growth and inflation forecasts. Weakness in commodity prices also weighed on UK shares, while there was a certain amount of caution ahead of Friday’s US non-farm payroll numbers. Jasper Lawler, market analyst at CMC Markets, said:
Weakness in commodity stocks held down the UK benchmark index despite earnings-led gains in the property and healthcare sectors. The Bank of England signposting a longer period of monetary accommodation was taken as a sign of weakness for the UK economy.Weakness in commodity stocks held down the UK benchmark index despite earnings-led gains in the property and healthcare sectors. The Bank of England signposting a longer period of monetary accommodation was taken as a sign of weakness for the UK economy.
Meanwhile sterling fell as rate rise expectations receded, down from $1.5391 before the Bank’s announcement to $1.5239 at the moment.Meanwhile sterling fell as rate rise expectations receded, down from $1.5391 before the Bank’s announcement to $1.5239 at the moment.
Ten year gilt yields slipped 5 basis points to 1.95% while two year yields fell 7 basis points.Ten year gilt yields slipped 5 basis points to 1.95% while two year yields fell 7 basis points.
The final scores in Europe showed:The final scores in Europe showed:
In the US there was also caution ahead of the jobs data. Wall Street is currently up just 5 points.In the US there was also caution ahead of the jobs data. Wall Street is currently up just 5 points.
On that note, it’s time to close up for the evening. Thanks for all your comments, and we’ll be back tomorrow.On that note, it’s time to close up for the evening. Thanks for all your comments, and we’ll be back tomorrow.
5.45pm GMT5.45pm GMT
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The Bank of England announcement was not dovish, said Alan Clarke at Scotiabank. It just wasn’t as hawkish as people had expected. He said:The Bank of England announcement was not dovish, said Alan Clarke at Scotiabank. It just wasn’t as hawkish as people had expected. He said:
If you had a blank sheet of paper and came up with:If you had a blank sheet of paper and came up with:
- a 2-year ahead inflation projection above target and the highest for years;- a 2-year ahead inflation projection above target and the highest for years;
- the same for the 3-year ahead;- the same for the 3-year ahead;
- The Governor saying that policy accommodation was more than adequate to get inflation back to target, even in the face of global weakness; and so on- The Governor saying that policy accommodation was more than adequate to get inflation back to target, even in the face of global weakness; and so on
you wouldn’t have called it dovish. We believe that if the Fed hikes in December and UK data stays firm, there is still a case for a hike in early 2016.you wouldn’t have called it dovish. We believe that if the Fed hikes in December and UK data stays firm, there is still a case for a hike in early 2016.
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Mark Carney also shows some sympathy with the Federal Reserve, as the markets wonder if they’ll raise US borrowing costs in December.Mark Carney also shows some sympathy with the Federal Reserve, as the markets wonder if they’ll raise US borrowing costs in December.
I’m confident they’ll make the right decision, he says.I’m confident they’ll make the right decision, he says.
Carney: Fed has been as transparent as they can be about a decision they have not yet taken. It's a familiar feeling for all central bankersCarney: Fed has been as transparent as they can be about a decision they have not yet taken. It's a familiar feeling for all central bankers
4.08pm GMT4.08pm GMT
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Carney: Relatively prudent to think rates rise in 2016Carney: Relatively prudent to think rates rise in 2016
BOE governor Mark Carney is telling Bloomberg that the UK has ‘made progress’, but it’s been mixed. Consumer demand remains solid.BOE governor Mark Carney is telling Bloomberg that the UK has ‘made progress’, but it’s been mixed. Consumer demand remains solid.
And he says it’s “relatively prudent” to think that interest rates will rise in 2016.And he says it’s “relatively prudent” to think that interest rates will rise in 2016.
Mark Carney exclusive: Reasonably prudent to think Bank of England rate will rise in 2016 https://t.co/p0fWBcagK6 pic.twitter.com/wIMU9gY7mFMark Carney exclusive: Reasonably prudent to think Bank of England rate will rise in 2016 https://t.co/p0fWBcagK6 pic.twitter.com/wIMU9gY7mF
Carney @bankofengland obviously doesnt like his post conference press today Now it doesn't matter he will say rates will rise next yearCarney @bankofengland obviously doesnt like his post conference press today Now it doesn't matter he will say rates will rise next year
On the world economy, he says that China is one concern, but not the only one.On the world economy, he says that China is one concern, but not the only one.
He cites the ending of the commodity super-cycle, movement of capital out of emerging markets, and the slowing of the pace of structural reform and productivity growth in emerging economies generally.He cites the ending of the commodity super-cycle, movement of capital out of emerging markets, and the slowing of the pace of structural reform and productivity growth in emerging economies generally.
4.02pm GMT4.02pm GMT
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If you’ve not heard enough from Mark Carney already, tune into Bloomberg TV where he’s being interviewed now.If you’ve not heard enough from Mark Carney already, tune into Bloomberg TV where he’s being interviewed now.
3.56pm GMT3.56pm GMT
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Bank of England: Top reactionBank of England: Top reaction
There’s lots of reaction to today’s decision, and the BoE’s press conference.There’s lots of reaction to today’s decision, and the BoE’s press conference.
Our economics editor, Larry Elliott, says the Bank’s doves are still in charge:Our economics editor, Larry Elliott, says the Bank’s doves are still in charge:
The latest signs from Threadneedle Street are that borrowing costs will rise at some point in 2016, but there was nothing in its dovish quarterly inflation report or from the minutes of the latest meeting of its monetary policy committee to suggest that a move was imminent.The latest signs from Threadneedle Street are that borrowing costs will rise at some point in 2016, but there was nothing in its dovish quarterly inflation report or from the minutes of the latest meeting of its monetary policy committee to suggest that a move was imminent.
All that might change if the US Federal Reserve decides to push up US interest rates next month. In that event, financial markets would start to look for the Bank to move in the first half of next year.All that might change if the US Federal Reserve decides to push up US interest rates next month. In that event, financial markets would start to look for the Bank to move in the first half of next year.
Related: Interest rate decision shows Bank of England doves still rule the roostRelated: Interest rate decision shows Bank of England doves still rule the roost
Writing for the FT, BNP Paribas’s senior economist Richard Barwell is alarmed that there’s so much consensus at the Bank:Writing for the FT, BNP Paribas’s senior economist Richard Barwell is alarmed that there’s so much consensus at the Bank:
MPC members are supposed to vote according to their own individual view rather than search for what Sir Mervyn King, former BoE governor, called a “false consensus”.MPC members are supposed to vote according to their own individual view rather than search for what Sir Mervyn King, former BoE governor, called a “false consensus”.
Yet, if that is what they are doing, it is nothing short of miraculous that nine economists could essentially agree on the appropriate stance of monetary policy meeting after meeting, year after year.Yet, if that is what they are doing, it is nothing short of miraculous that nine economists could essentially agree on the appropriate stance of monetary policy meeting after meeting, year after year.
Recent events have been even more remarkable: not only has there been no change in the stance of policy in the past two years, despite huge changes in the economy over that period, there has not been a single vote to loosen policy and precious few to raise rates.Recent events have been even more remarkable: not only has there been no change in the stance of policy in the past two years, despite huge changes in the economy over that period, there has not been a single vote to loosen policy and precious few to raise rates.
Comment: The Bank of England’s great Monetary Policy Committee mystery https://t.co/KeE8Svy5Dm pic.twitter.com/NoBAjAvTZEComment: The Bank of England’s great Monetary Policy Committee mystery https://t.co/KeE8Svy5Dm pic.twitter.com/NoBAjAvTZE
On the BBC website, Robert Peston has blogged about whether Carney’s credibility has been hurt by his past predictions that rates could rise earlier than expected.On the BBC website, Robert Peston has blogged about whether Carney’s credibility has been hurt by his past predictions that rates could rise earlier than expected.
To paraphrase master Yoda, bonkers it would be to raise interest rates in December, or January, or February - or not for some considerable time.To paraphrase master Yoda, bonkers it would be to raise interest rates in December, or January, or February - or not for some considerable time.
The reason I mention Yoda is that central bank governors, like Jedi masters, are supposed to be infallible.The reason I mention Yoda is that central bank governors, like Jedi masters, are supposed to be infallible.
Maybe that is a ludicrous conceit in this age of institutional transparency.Maybe that is a ludicrous conceit in this age of institutional transparency.
But for City traditionalists, Mark Carney’s predilection for giving so-called “forward guidance”, which seems to date to have habitually gone awry, may have damaged his authority a bit.But for City traditionalists, Mark Carney’s predilection for giving so-called “forward guidance”, which seems to date to have habitually gone awry, may have damaged his authority a bit.
Will Carney be thrown out of the Jedi council for his forward guidance flopperoo? https://t.co/ULn92aXo58Will Carney be thrown out of the Jedi council for his forward guidance flopperoo? https://t.co/ULn92aXo58
3.16pm GMT3.16pm GMT
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Analysts at RBC Capital Markets believe the slowdown in emerging markets has come as a nasty shock to the Bank of England.Analysts at RBC Capital Markets believe the slowdown in emerging markets has come as a nasty shock to the Bank of England.
They say:They say:
The MPC voted 8-1 to keep Bank Rate on hold at 0.5% in its November meeting. The November Inflation Report (IR) containing the Bank’s latest analysis of the economic outlook struck a decidedly dovish tone though. Two main themes contributing to a more cautious tone are a i) downgrade to the global growth outlook and ii) a more persistent drag on inflation from the prior appreciation of the exchange rate.The MPC voted 8-1 to keep Bank Rate on hold at 0.5% in its November meeting. The November Inflation Report (IR) containing the Bank’s latest analysis of the economic outlook struck a decidedly dovish tone though. Two main themes contributing to a more cautious tone are a i) downgrade to the global growth outlook and ii) a more persistent drag on inflation from the prior appreciation of the exchange rate.
Previously the Committee had sounded moderately sanguine about a slowdown in emerging market economies but now it acknowledges performance has “slowed markedly” leading to a downgraded assessment. On the exchange rate theme we were told that the MPC thinks “the dampening influencing of sterling’s past appreciation on inflation is expected to be persistent diminishing only slowly over the MPC’s forecast period”.Previously the Committee had sounded moderately sanguine about a slowdown in emerging market economies but now it acknowledges performance has “slowed markedly” leading to a downgraded assessment. On the exchange rate theme we were told that the MPC thinks “the dampening influencing of sterling’s past appreciation on inflation is expected to be persistent diminishing only slowly over the MPC’s forecast period”.
3.03pm GMT3.03pm GMT
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Some economists still think the Bank will raise interest rates before the middle of next year:Some economists still think the Bank will raise interest rates before the middle of next year:
#UBS retains May call for first #BoE rate hike.#UBS retains May call for first #BoE rate hike.
Have to maintain our call for a Q2 rate hike from the Bank of England following today's news.Have to maintain our call for a Q2 rate hike from the Bank of England following today's news.
2.49pm GMT2.49pm GMT
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Martin Beck, senior economic advisor to the EY ITEM Club, agrees that the Bank was more downbeat than expected:Martin Beck, senior economic advisor to the EY ITEM Club, agrees that the Bank was more downbeat than expected:
“While we expected a downgrade to the MPC’s growth and inflation forecasts in November’s Inflation Report, the MPC’s latest assessment of the economy struck an unexpectedly dovish tone for interest rates.“While we expected a downgrade to the MPC’s growth and inflation forecasts in November’s Inflation Report, the MPC’s latest assessment of the economy struck an unexpectedly dovish tone for interest rates.
“Based on market expectations that the first interest rate rise won’t happen until Q1 2017, the MPC forecast that inflation would only slightly exceed the 2% target by that date. This implies the Committee’s view of the appropriate timing of a rate rise is roughly in line with the market consensus.“Based on market expectations that the first interest rate rise won’t happen until Q1 2017, the MPC forecast that inflation would only slightly exceed the 2% target by that date. This implies the Committee’s view of the appropriate timing of a rate rise is roughly in line with the market consensus.
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The Institute of Directors has hit out at the Bank of England for playing a “dangerous game” by leaving interest rates so low.The Institute of Directors has hit out at the Bank of England for playing a “dangerous game” by leaving interest rates so low.
Chief economist James Sproule, who has been calling in vain for a rate hike, says:Chief economist James Sproule, who has been calling in vain for a rate hike, says:
“Caution won out again at the Bank of England today, with the Monetary Policy Committee spooked by a worsening outlook for global growth. But, with strong consumer confidence and wages on the up, the arguments against raising interest rates from the current exceptionally low level are falling away.”“Caution won out again at the Bank of England today, with the Monetary Policy Committee spooked by a worsening outlook for global growth. But, with strong consumer confidence and wages on the up, the arguments against raising interest rates from the current exceptionally low level are falling away.”
Sproule argues that the Bank is storing up trouble; asset prices are being forced up, consumers are putting on more debt, and capital is being misallocated.Sproule argues that the Bank is storing up trouble; asset prices are being forced up, consumers are putting on more debt, and capital is being misallocated.
2.39pm GMT2.39pm GMT
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And so it begins...And so it begins...
JP Morgan forecast that #BoE rate rise will not happen until Q2 2016 (Prev. saw Q1 2016)JP Morgan forecast that #BoE rate rise will not happen until Q2 2016 (Prev. saw Q1 2016)
2.31pm GMT2.31pm GMT
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Savers should brace for interest rates to stay at record lows until perhaps 2017, says Maike Currie, associate investment director at Fidelity International.Savers should brace for interest rates to stay at record lows until perhaps 2017, says Maike Currie, associate investment director at Fidelity International.
“Super Thursday has quickly turned into Superfluous Thursday.“Super Thursday has quickly turned into Superfluous Thursday.
It’s now 80 months and counting since the Bank of England has failed to push the button on rising interest rates with its surprisingly dovish stance today....It’s now 80 months and counting since the Bank of England has failed to push the button on rising interest rates with its surprisingly dovish stance today....
It leaves investors and retirees facing the ongoing conundrum of finding a home for their money in an environment of low inflation and low interest rates – a backdrop which typically makes for measly returnsIt leaves investors and retirees facing the ongoing conundrum of finding a home for their money in an environment of low inflation and low interest rates – a backdrop which typically makes for measly returns
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Kallum Pickering of Berenberg Bank has kindly sent a chart, showing how the BoE cut its growth forecasts today:Kallum Pickering of Berenberg Bank has kindly sent a chart, showing how the BoE cut its growth forecasts today:
2.26pm GMT2.26pm GMT
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The FT’s Chris Giles reckons Carney attempted a repair job during today’s press conference, which was more hawkish than the actual Inflation Report.The FT’s Chris Giles reckons Carney attempted a repair job during today’s press conference, which was more hawkish than the actual Inflation Report.
Carney has spent press conference rowing back on the inflation report's dovishness. Does BoE not know how its words will be received?Carney has spent press conference rowing back on the inflation report's dovishness. Does BoE not know how its words will be received?
He didn’t row too far - the pound is still down heavily.He didn’t row too far - the pound is still down heavily.
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The pound has been thumped against all major currencies since the Bank of England unleashed its unexpectedly dovish inflation report.The pound has been thumped against all major currencies since the Bank of England unleashed its unexpectedly dovish inflation report.
That highlights that investors expect rates to remain at record lows for at least another year.That highlights that investors expect rates to remain at record lows for at least another year.
GBP taking a decent beating #BoE pic.twitter.com/E2uQHXws9cGBP taking a decent beating #BoE pic.twitter.com/E2uQHXws9c
2.07pm GMT2.07pm GMT
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If this was a “Super Thursday” club night*, you’d probably be entitled to a refund.If this was a “Super Thursday” club night*, you’d probably be entitled to a refund.
So, Not-So-Super Thursday, huh?So, Not-So-Super Thursday, huh?
* - these still exist, right?* - these still exist, right?
2.06pm GMT2.06pm GMT
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Press conference over. Hacks scramble back to base, Mark Carney and colleagues return to protecting the monetary affair of the nation.Press conference over. Hacks scramble back to base, Mark Carney and colleagues return to protecting the monetary affair of the nation.
I’ll pull some reaction together now.I’ll pull some reaction together now.
2.03pm GMT2.03pm GMT
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Carney: We could cut rates (but we didn't discuss it)Carney: We could cut rates (but we didn't discuss it)
Business Insider’s Mike Bird asks Carney about the possibility that UK interest rates could be lowered from 0.5%.Business Insider’s Mike Bird asks Carney about the possibility that UK interest rates could be lowered from 0.5%.
He cites recent comments from ECB chief Mario Draghi on this issue of zero interest-rate policy, suggesting that borrowing costs could go lower than previously thought.He cites recent comments from ECB chief Mario Draghi on this issue of zero interest-rate policy, suggesting that borrowing costs could go lower than previously thought.
Carney replies that the MPC did not consider easing monetary policy today.Carney replies that the MPC did not consider easing monetary policy today.
But it could potentially lower borrowing costs if needed.But it could potentially lower borrowing costs if needed.
Reuters snapped the key points:Reuters snapped the key points:
That seems to have knocked the pound, it’s down 1.5 cents or 1% at $1.5230.That seems to have knocked the pound, it’s down 1.5 cents or 1% at $1.5230.
Mind you, that could be the impact of Mike’s wardrobe....Mind you, that could be the impact of Mike’s wardrobe....
cmon. How big do you think the Gap Kids shirt-tie range is?RT @econhedge: FFS ANOTHER shirt disaster from @birdyword pic.twitter.com/0auUblSF2Gcmon. How big do you think the Gap Kids shirt-tie range is?RT @econhedge: FFS ANOTHER shirt disaster from @birdyword pic.twitter.com/0auUblSF2G
1.47pm GMT1.47pm GMT
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Q: What discussions has the BoE had with other central banks about the possibility that monetary policy diverges next year, with the UK and US may raising rates while the eurozone and Japan could get more stimulus?Q: What discussions has the BoE had with other central banks about the possibility that monetary policy diverges next year, with the UK and US may raising rates while the eurozone and Japan could get more stimulus?
It feels like we meet almost continually, says Carney wearily. We’ll be meeting again next week in Basel.It feels like we meet almost continually, says Carney wearily. We’ll be meeting again next week in Basel.
We don’t sit there saying ‘here’s what I told that press conference but here’s what we really think’, he promisesWe don’t sit there saying ‘here’s what I told that press conference but here’s what we really think’, he promises
And he also insists that monetary policy isn’t secretly agreed in advance:And he also insists that monetary policy isn’t secretly agreed in advance:
There is no major central bank that knows what it is going to do at its next meeting.There is no major central bank that knows what it is going to do at its next meeting.
They all have frameworks and objectives, and the factors that influence its decisions.They all have frameworks and objectives, and the factors that influence its decisions.
And in all Carney’s years as a G7 central bank governor in Canada and the UK, this has only changed once:And in all Carney’s years as a G7 central bank governor in Canada and the UK, this has only changed once:
The only time that was different was the depth of 2008, when we agreed to do certain things.The only time that was different was the depth of 2008, when we agreed to do certain things.
That was the wild days of October 2008, when the world banks announced co-ordinated rate cuts to try to calm the global panic.That was the wild days of October 2008, when the world banks announced co-ordinated rate cuts to try to calm the global panic.
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Yield curves (which show investors’ expectations of rate hikes) have not matched up to the Bank’s own forecasts. So how worried is the governor that he’s losing credibility in the markets?Yield curves (which show investors’ expectations of rate hikes) have not matched up to the Bank’s own forecasts. So how worried is the governor that he’s losing credibility in the markets?
Carney insists that he’s “not at all” concerned about this. One can read too much into market yield curves.Carney insists that he’s “not at all” concerned about this. One can read too much into market yield curves.
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Q: Some of this summer’s market mayhem was caused by speculation that US interest rates might rise soon, so are central banks making the situation worse?Q: Some of this summer’s market mayhem was caused by speculation that US interest rates might rise soon, so are central banks making the situation worse?
Deputy governor Minouche Shafik agrees that there was significant volatility this summer - with the VIX index (which measures this) hitting its highest level since 2011.Deputy governor Minouche Shafik agrees that there was significant volatility this summer - with the VIX index (which measures this) hitting its highest level since 2011.
But volatility has dropped back since, suggesting the markets are operating as they should.But volatility has dropped back since, suggesting the markets are operating as they should.
We’re returning to how things were before the Great Moderation, Shafik adds.We’re returning to how things were before the Great Moderation, Shafik adds.
1.28pm GMT1.28pm GMT
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Our Katie Allen asks Carney about the Bank’s belief that the UK economy is ‘resilient’ despite the government’s fiscal consolidation (George Osborne’s ongoing attempts to eliminate the deficit).Our Katie Allen asks Carney about the Bank’s belief that the UK economy is ‘resilient’ despite the government’s fiscal consolidation (George Osborne’s ongoing attempts to eliminate the deficit).
Q: Should we expect major changes to these forecasts in February, once we’ve seen the Autumn Statement?Q: Should we expect major changes to these forecasts in February, once we’ve seen the Autumn Statement?
We have incorporated the current fiscal plans into our forecasts, Carney says. We’ll make adjustment if the government’s fiscal stance changes but we won’t react to rumour.We have incorporated the current fiscal plans into our forecasts, Carney says. We’ll make adjustment if the government’s fiscal stance changes but we won’t react to rumour.
And he notes that this fiscal consolidation is “material”, and has had a significant impact on the UK economy.And he notes that this fiscal consolidation is “material”, and has had a significant impact on the UK economy.
Carney says latest forecasts based on spending cuts we already know about - fiscal consolidation he describes as "material" and "meaningful"Carney says latest forecasts based on spending cuts we already know about - fiscal consolidation he describes as "material" and "meaningful"
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What are households expect to make of things?
Many people expect rates to go up in the next year, Carney replies, and that’s a “reasonable” idea.
Carney: surveys show ca 2 3rds of housholds expect rates to rise over next 12 months, "that is a reasonable expectation" given these fcasts
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Governor Carney isn’t spoiling us with too many straight answers.
I don't think I've ever seen as much Central Bank tapdancing as this QIR from Carney
BoE Carney: Well, erm, I'm not, eh, of course, well, it's right, but it's not a commitment, so, after the year, erm, I may not, hmm, raise
1.20pm GMT
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Here’s the proof that the markets have been consistently wrong about UK interest rates going up:
How market expectations for interest rate increases have shifted back, and back, and back… pic.twitter.com/tcoyOKGSbp
1.17pm GMT
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Chris Giles of the Financial Times points out that house price inflation is running at 9% (according to the Halifax).
So, does the Bank need to unleash some macro-prudential tools to cool the housing market while it leaves rates so low?
Mark Carney agrees that the housing market appears to be picking up, and unsecured credit is growing too.
We do have to think about the balance in the recovery, and the potential implication of the continuation of those development...And that does bring into scope some macro-prudential issues.
That sounds like a YES.
So what might it mean? In theory, the Bank could impose tougher lending rules on banks and building societies to cool the market.
BoE presser karaoke. Hi, @ChrisGiles_ pic.twitter.com/n95MGRlSAp
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Carney asked about fed talking about dec hike, and whether BoE could give such guidance for h1 2016: "we will take a decision each month"
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Q: The Federal Reserve says it could raise interest rates in December; Could the Bank of England say the same about the first half of 2016?
Mark Carney won’t be lured into any predictions.
We take a decision each month, based on many factors, and we are committed to getting inflation back to target, he says.
1.10pm GMT
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Sky News Ed Conway’s asks whether we should even bother looking at market expectations for bank rate (a key part of today’s inflation report).
Five years ago, market expected rates to be 3.75% today. A year ago, they expected 1%, so should we stop paying attention?
Carney says that the Bank doesn’t endorse these expectations.
Ed squeezes in a second question - is there something ‘chronic’ wrong with the UK economy that means rates are still so low, or have we just suffered a series of unfortunate events?
Ben Broadbent, deputy governor, responds, points out that the equilibrium inflation rate has been falling for many years, even before the financial crisis.
“There are deep global forces that were at work here - including demographics”
Therefore the level of official interest rates aren’t an arbitrary choice. - we are responding to the situation.
1.05pm GMT
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Our ambition is to return ‘sustainably’ to the inflation target, Carney says, rather than blunder by trying to fight the ‘persistent’ factors keeping prices low.
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The length of the Carney reply to the @peston question indicates how much waffling and spinning is going on here #BoE #InflationReport
Carney : "Progress in terms of normalisation has been mixed"
Central bank-ese for "haven't a Scooby" https://t.co/ueeMr8nX8W
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Carney: No regrets over rate predictions
Robert Peston has the microphone, and uses it like a laser beam to target Carney’s credibility.
Q: Do you regret telling the public that the decision over UK interest rates will come into ‘sharper relief’ at the turn of the year?
Absolutely not, Carney replies. He was giving his own view, but it’s a decision for the full MPC
Also, growth has ticked down in recent months, but domestic conditions have evolved rather as the Bank expected. “Foreign effect” are to blame for weak inflation expectations.
We have a situation where there is mixed progress, but there is progress.... towards monetary normalisation.
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Onto questions:
Q: Not much appears to have changed in today’s Inflation Report, but there’s a big reaction in the markets. Why?
Mark Carney says there have been some important changes since early August (the last meeting).
Firstly: Demand for risk-free assets has risen, and there’s been “a sharp selloff in risk assets”.
Bank funding costs are up, credit spreads are up, equity markets have fallen. There’s been “a big unwind”.
Secondly: concerns over the emerging markets has risen.
12.55pm GMT
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Now this is interesting. Carney says that the Bank expects to keep its stock of UK government bonds until interest rates have reached a level where they can be cut.
That means the BoE won’t be unwinding QE until rates have hit 2%.
12.54pm GMT
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There are a range of views among the monetary policy committee over the balance of risks to inflation, says Carney.
12.53pm GMT
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BoE Carney repeats from report intro:in contrast to global picture &despite ongoing fiscal consolidation domestic momentum still resilient
12.52pm GMT
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Mark Carney confirms that UK inflation is expected to remain below 1% until the second half of 2016, citing factors such as cheaper commodity prices and other imported goods prices.
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Carney warns of global risks
“Remember, remember the 5th of November” grins Mark Carney as the press conference begins (maybe he’ll hand out some toffee apples later #hint)
So what’s memorable about today? There are some familiar themes - inflation remains low, rates remain unchanged, and it’s another 8-1 split.
But there are some subtle but significant shifts in the picture since August.
Global developments are the biggest change in the last three months; these post a downside risk to the UK economy.
Carney says broad outlook from August intact, downside risks to global outlook including more "abrupt" changes in China
But the UK economy is more encouraging, he adds.
Domestic momentum remains resilient, as does consumer confidence, while firms still have robust inflation intentions.
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12.46pm GMT
12:46
Bank of England Press Conference begins
The Bank of England press conference is starting now - you can watch it live here.
Economics editor
ITV’s
Robert Peston (BBC today, ITV soon) is preparing to give Carney a grilling
So interest rates now signalled as not rising for year - so does Bank gov regret preparing us for possible rise early in new year? I'll ask
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12.44pm GMT
12:44
The story: BoE signals rates will stay at 0.5% for a while
Here’s Katie Allen’s story on the Bank of England rate decision:
The Bank of England has sent a reassuring message to businesses and households that interest rates are to remain at their record low well into next year as it cut its forecast for near-term inflation.
The central bank signalled in its latest Inflation Report that interest rates would need to rise at some point from the current 0.5%, but it gave no indication a move was imminent and reiterated that when borrowing costs do go up, they will do so only gradually.
Rates have been at 0.5% since the depths of the global financial crisis more than six years ago. Minutes from the Bank’s latest rate-setting meeting, published alongside the report, showed that only one of the nine monetary policy committee members felt it was now time to start hiking. Ian McCafferty dissented from the rest of the MPC, as he has done in recent months, based on risks that inflation would start to pick up.
The Bank’s quarterly outlook said that based on recent falls in oil and other commodity prices, “inflation is likely to remain lower than previously expected until late 2017” and return to the government-set target of 2% in around two years’ time, then rise above it. The latest official figures put inflation at -0.1%.
The report also flagged a weaker outlook for global growth than at the time of its last forecasts in August and the MPC downgraded the prospects for emerging market economies. Such an outlook would continue to influence the UK economy and the path of interest rates.
Here’s the full story:
Related: Bank of England leaves interest rates at record low of 0.5%
12.39pm GMT
12:39
The Bank also flags up that market expectations of future interest rate rises have fallen since August:
It says:
Short-term interest rates in the United Kingdom, United States and euro area were lower in the run-up to the November Report than three months earlier.
While some of those falls may reflect lower expectations of the most likely path for policy, given the weaker outlook for global growth and inflation, some could also reflect increased perceptions of downside risks.
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This chart explains why the Bank of England is worried about emerging markets:
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The Bank’s new quarterly inflation report is online here (as a pdf).
It is packed with interesting charts.
These two show that the UK economy will take a serious hit if China suffers a hard landing.A 3% drop in Chinese growth wipes 0.3% off UK GDP.
The Bank says:
As in August, Chinese growth is projected to continue to moderate gently in the near term. But recent financial market developments have highlighted the challenges faced by the authorities in maintaining growth while both liberalising and rebalancing the Chinese economy.....
A sharp slowing in China could affect the UK economy.
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12.33pm GMT
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UK inflation just a tiny slice above target in 2 years based on market assumptions. BoE in no hurry to hike rates.
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Carney also told Osborne that inflation should start to pick up, from zero, in early 2016:
Carney:"In the absence of further falls in commodity prices, inflation rates close to zero are unlikely to endure much beyond the end of yr"
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The Bank has also released a letter from governor Carney to chancellor George Osborne, explaining why he hasn’t managed to keep inflation on target.
He blames international factors such as cheaper oil and metals, the strength of sterling (pushing down the cost of imports) and limited earnings growth (although real wages are finally rising).
BoE also released open letter from Carney to chancellor on why inflation off target.cites lower commodity prices, stronger pound, soft wages
12.26pm GMT
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This chart of inflation forecasts shows exactly why the Bank isn’t rushing to raise borrowing costs:
Here's @bankofengland's latest CPI forecast, based on market interest rates: no surprise Ian McCafferty's a loner: pic.twitter.com/oImqr6Xs8s
12.24pm GMT
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The key message from the Bank is that the UK still needs record low borrowing costs to ward off the global downturn:
BoE forecasts see need for lower interest rates to boost household and corporate spending in face of weaker global economy
12.21pm GMT
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Peter Hemington, partner at accountancy firm BDO LLP, says the Bank of England made the right decision, given signs that UK growth is weakening amid a global slowdown.
“With rates so low, policymakers must act to insulate the UK economy from the increasingly gloomy global economic outlook. So far our recovery has largely been based on consumer spending, but we need business and public sector investment if we are to rebalance the economy, boost productivity and make sure that companies thrive across the country.
This will put the economy on the firmest possible footing for the potentially shaky months ahead.”
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You can read the minutes of today’s meeting yourselves, here.
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The Bank also reminds us that when (but when?!) Bank Rate does begin to rise, it is expected to do so more gradually and to a lower level than in recent cycles.
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The Bank of England remains fairly optimistic about the domestic UK economy.
The minutes say:
Domestic momentum remains resilient. Consumer confidence is firm, real income growth this year is expected to be the strongest since the crisis, and investment intentions remain robust. As a result, domestic demand growth has been solid despite the fiscal consolidation....
Robust private domestic demand is expected to produce sufficient momentum to eliminate the margin of spare capacity over the next year.
But with few inflationary pressures, and worries over the global economy, eight members of the committee voted to leave interest rates at 0.5%.
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12.10pm GMT
12:10
Pound hit by dovish Bank of England
DOWN GOES THE POUND.
Sterling is tumbling like a wounded hawk, as traders scramble to react to the Bank’s downgraded forecasts.
Sterling was trading at $1.5391 before the news broke, and it’s now dropped to $1.5312.
Pound sliding pic.twitter.com/EPbCUxe54W
12.09pm GMT
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The Bank has also cut its inflation forecasts.
It now expects the Consumer Prices Index to remain below 1% until the second half of 2016, far from the official target of 2%.
12.07pm GMT
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BoE cuts growth forecasts on emerging market gloom
The Bank of England has also cut its forecasts for economic growth in 2015 and 2016.
In a gloomy statement, it reveals that it is less optimistic about the UK economy.
The outlook for global growth has weakened since the August Inflation Report. Many emerging market economies have slowed markedly and the Committee has downgraded its assessment of their medium-term growth prospects.
And the Bank also fears trouble in emerging markets:
While growth in advanced economies has continued and broadened, the Committee nonetheless expects the overall pace of UK-weighted global growth to be more modest than had been expected in August. There remain downside risks to this outlook, including that of a more abrupt slowdown in emerging economies.
12.03pm GMT
12:03
Bank of England maintains #BankRate at 0.5% and the size of the Asset Purchase Programme at £375 billion...
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The BoE also voted 9-0 to leave its quantitative easing programme unchanged, meaning it will still hold £375bn of UK gilts.
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Ian McCafferty was the only MPC policy maker to vote to hike to 0.75% again.
That has dashed speculation that Kristin Forbes or Martin Weale would join him on the hawks perch.
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12.00pm GMT
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Bank of England leaves rates unchanged
BREAKING: The Bank of England has voted 8-1 to leave interest rates unchanged, at the current record low of 0.5%.
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11.59am GMT
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A Bank of England official is phoning the speaking clock right now.... (seriously).
ONE MINUTE TO GO!
11.54am GMT
11:54
Spoiler alert:
The BOE hold is coming up in 9 minutes.
11.52am GMT
11:52
Reminder: We get the monetary policy decision at noon, along with the latest quarterly inflation report. Then there’s a 45 minute wait until Mark Carney faces the press pack.
Bank Of England Super Thursday on deck: Interest Rates, Inflation Report, and of course... Mark Carney. #BOE #Carney pic.twitter.com/MHdqmYZpkr
11.49am GMT
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Over at the Bank, they’ll be putting the finishing touches to their announcements -- we can expect some rapidfire tweeting once the clock strikes 12.
That’s also the moment that economics correspondents are released from their lock-in. Fleet Street’s finest have been confined in the Bank this morning, getting an early peek at the Inflation Report.
My colleague Katie Allen is in Guardian colours....
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11.19am GMT
11:19
Super Thursday: What to expect
Here are some key points to watch for from the Bank of England today:
Marketwatch’s preview has more details:
5 things to watch for the Bank of England’s Super Thursday
10.54am GMT
10:54
The mood in the City is rather subdued today, as investors wait for the Bank of England to unleash a plethora of announcements and reports at noon.
The FTSE 100 has lost 27 points, under-performing the rest of Europe. It’s been pulled down by the mining sector, and supermarket chain Morrisons which posted a 2.6% drop in sales.
Alastair McCaig, Market Analyst at IG, predicts few surprises from the BoE today.
Last quarter’s Super Thursday was not that super and it is difficult to see where the shock and awe will come from this time round. City traders will have to digest a plethora of data in quick succession, with a rate decision, policy minutes and the inflation report all followed by a speech from Mark Carney.
We might see another member vote for change but other than a 7-2 result it would be hard to see any change being viewed as anything other than forced.
10.34am GMT
10:34
Despite the emissions scandal, Volkswagen still had two cars in the top-ten bestsellers in the UK last month.
This chart from today’s report shows that Golfs and Polos remained popular:
And VW insiders are playing down suggestions that customers are shunning it.
ITV business editor Joel Hills says:
“It could have been a lot worse” a source at VW tells me. “UK sales are pretty robust”. VW’s Golf and Polo models moved up the best-seller list.
VW sales in UK slumped last month. Evidence that customers are shunning the brand? Not really. Read on: https://t.co/kHGq323493
10.18am GMT
10:18
Experienced City economist George Magnus, adviser to UBS, is on Bloomberg TV now, arguing that there is no reason for the Bank of England to raise rates yet.
Instead, Mark Carney and colleagues should wait and let the US Federal Reserve make the first move (possibly at its December meeting).
Magnus says:
The danger if the Bank steals a march on the Fed it could push up the pound, which is bad for manufacturing.
UBS Senior Economic Advisor @GeorgeMagnus1 tells us on @bsurveillance it would be worrisome if the BoE were to steal a march on the Fed.
Magnus also warned that the upcoming EU referendum is the “big unknown, hanging over the economy like a big black cloud”.
10.00am GMT
10:00
Two hours to go until the Bank of England begins the Super Thursday party:
'Remember remember, the fifth of November.' BoE Super Thursday kicks off in 2-hours: rate decision, minutes, and Quarterly Inflation Report.
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9.50am GMT
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Julia Kollewe
The SMMT says it is too early to tell if the drop in VW sales is due to the emission scandal.
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UK SMMT 177,664 new cars were registered in the month, representing a slight decrease of 1.1% Food for thought for the Bank of England #GBP
9.21am GMT
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Mike Hawes, SMMT Chief Executive, argues that the UK car sector is still robust, even though sales growth has finally dipped.
“The UK car market has gone through a period of unprecedented growth and, so far, 2015 has been a bumper year with the strongest performance since the recession.
As expected, demand has now begun to level off but the sector is in a strong position, as low interest rates, consumer confidence and exciting new products combine to attract new car buyers. The current full-year growth forecast remains on track.”
9.18am GMT
09:18
Volkswagen UK sales fall nearly 10%
Volkswagen sales in the UK have fallen, suggesting the company has been hurt by the news that it faked emission test results.
Sales of Volkswagen-branded models tumbled by 9.8% year-on-year in October, from 15,495 to 13,970, according to the SMMT’s new report. That means its market share shrank from 8.62% to 7.86%.
#Volkswagen UK sales fall in October - market share falls by almost 10%. @SMMT
Other VW brands saw sales fall.
SEAT sales tumbled by 32%, from 3,450 to 2,338, while Skoda dipped by 3%.
Audi, though, posted a 3% jump in sales compared to a year ago, even though it has been caught up in the scandal.
And it’s worth noting that other carmakers had a bad month. Sales of Minis (part of the BMW group) fell by a fifth from 5,262 to 4,112.
But it’s certainly not great news for VW, on top of the plunge in South Korean sales reported this morning (see 7.50am post)
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9.06am GMT
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UK car sales fall for first time in 43 months
Just in. UK car sales have fallen, for the first time since early 2012.
The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders reports that new registrations were down 1.1% in October, compared with a year ago.
Sales so far this year are still 6.4% higher than in 2015, but it looks like the long run of post-recession growth is finally tailing off:
Here’s the key points from the SMMT’s sales report:
Just looking at the detail of the report now....
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8.59am GMT
08:59
Jeremy Cook, chief economist at currency firm World First, reckons UK interest rates will remain at their record lows for another six months.
#SuperThursdayGuesses Today to solidify expectations, Feb to signal its coming soon, and May to hike. Slowly, slowly catch the Carney
#SuperThursdayGuesses Possibility that Forbes joins McCafferty, minutes focus on solid yet unspectacular growth, inflation from base effect
8.45am GMT
08:45
London newspaper City AM runs a ‘shadow MPC’, asking nine senior economists how they would vote.
And this month, it has split 6-3, with a trio calling for a rate hike.
One of the “shadow hawks” is Simon Ward of Henderson Global Investors, who argues:
Raise. Corporate liquidity is surging. Private pay growth is over three per cent, while productivity remains sluggish. Global risks have faded.
Andrew Sentance, who once served on the MPC, also believes the BoE should raise rates:
I am one of 3 members of @CityAM MPC to vote for a rate rise: https://t.co/Jc3fvsJBk9. How many on the real #MPC will follow suit today?
8.30am GMT
08:30
Here’s a handy chart showing which BoE policymakers appear keen to raise rates soon, and which are reluctant....
The MPC Member Spectrum, from doves to hawks - loving it @business Intelligence & @JMurray804 pic.twitter.com/e92uNcMAyr
Andy Haldane, the premier Dove, has even suggested recently that rates might be cut to new record lows....
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8.22am GMT
08:22
Some economists believe that divisions at the Bank of England over interest rate policy will widen today during Super Thursday.
At recent meetings, the monetary policy committee has split 8-1, with only Ian McCafferty voting to hike borrowing costs from 0.5% to 0.75%.
But a 7-2 split can’t be ruled out, or even a 6-3 (although that might be pushing it).
And that’s why Simon Wells, chief UK economist at HSBC, says today does feel like a “big day”.
He told Bloomberg TV:
It’s Bonfire Night, and if there are fireworks here, it will be in the vote.
Kristin Forbes has been very hawkish of late, and she may go and join McCafferty, and possibly Martin Weale too.
The markets would “react strongly” to a 6-3 split, probably driving the pound sharply higher on expectations of an early rate hike.
Wells expects that first rise will come in February 2016, so the BoE may be keen to communicate that today.
8.05am GMT
08:05
Today is probably the Bank of England’s last chance to prepare people for an interest rate hike early next year.
Brian Hilliard, chief U.K. economist at Societe Generale, explains:
“It’s make or break for clear communication on a first-quarter rate increase.
“If it is going to happen in February they’re going to have to send a strong and clear signal.”
8.00am GMT
08:00
German factory orders fall again
As if the Volkswagen scandal wasn’t bad enough, Germany’s factories have also suffered another drop in demand orders.
Industrial orders fall by 1.7% in September, new figures show, the third monthly decline in a row.
That’s rather worse than expected - economists forecast a 1% rise - and it suggests Europe’s largest economy is suffering from weaknesses overseas.
New orders in #manufacturing in Sept. 2015: –1.7% seasonally adjusted on the previous month https://t.co/M4w7zCGPeN pic.twitter.com/f9LrOoQRFV
The economy ministry didn’t try to sugar-coat the figures either, saying that “overall, industrial orders are in a weak phase”.
German new orders down for the third straight month. No more excuses except domestic demand still bit stronger.
Three months in a row with month-on-month declines over 1%. Last time that happened was November 2011. #NichtGut https://t.co/FJNBjodjlb
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7.50am GMT
07:50
VW sales slide in South Korea
We have firm evidence that the emissions scandal has hurt Volkswagen, from South Korea.
Sales to South Korean customers almost halved in October, new figures show, dropping below the 1,000 mark for the first time since 2011.
The Korea Automobile Importers & Distributors Association reported that VW only sold 947 cars last month, following the revelations that it used software to cheat nitrogen oxide emission tests. That’s 46% lower than a year ago, and 67% below September’s figures.
The sales collapse for Volkswagen contrasted with a 6% rise in sales of imported cars in South Korea in the same period, Reuters points out.
Have UK drivers also abandoned VW? We find out at 9am when the latest sales figures are released....
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7.34am GMT
07:34
Introduction: Bank of England rate decision, and more...
Happy Super Thursday!
The Bank of England is preparing to hit us with a quadruple whammy of news and economic data at noon.
Firstly, the Bank’s Monetary Policy Committee will set UK interest rates. A rate rise isn’t expected, but some members of the MPC may vote for the first hike since the financial crisis began. Last month they split 8-1, but could another hawk jump the fence?
The minutes of the meeting are also released at noon, showing the details of the committee’s discussions and its views on the UK and global economy.
We also get the latest quarterly inflation report, packed with new economic forecasts.
And if that’s not enough of a treat, the Bank governor Mark Carney then holds a press conference at 12.45pm. That’s his opportunity to guide the markets - and potential housebuyers and borrowers - on the chances of an interest rate rise in early 2016.
#UK economy today: BOE rate decision, minutes, Inflation Report
Also coming up today....
We get new UK car sales figures for October at 9am. They are expected to show that some customers have deserted Volkswagen following its emissions crisis.
Related: VW could face billions in car tax repayments over latest CO2 scandal
In the City, we have some disappointing results from Morrisons, which has reported its 15th straight quarterly sales fall.
Grim retail. Morrisons - total sales down 2%; like-for-like sales down 2.6%; food deflation -2.2%. Every figure in trading statement is -ve
And the European financial markets are expected to be calm, after a solid trading day in Asia which saw the Chinese market rise 20% above its recent low.
That means they are back into a bull market, as traders put this summer’s panic selling behind them.
We’ll be tracking all the main events through the day....
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