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| Turnbull convenes national security body as parliament focuses on dual nationals - politics live | Turnbull convenes national security body as parliament focuses on dual nationals - politics live |
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| 11.52pm GMT23:52 | |
| The parliamentary giving tree will be launched in a few moments. The senate president, Stephen Parry and the speaker Tony Smith will turn on the lights while the Burgmann Anglican School Choir will sing a few carols. | |
| Yea verily, Christmas is just around the corner. | |
| 11.23pm GMT23:23 | |
| Stalking the halls. | |
| 11.18pm GMT23:18 | 11.18pm GMT23:18 |
| FFFFFFar out Kevin. | FFFFFFar out Kevin. |
| 11.07pm GMT23:07 | 11.07pm GMT23:07 |
| Morrison has underlined several times that Australia is part of a coalition of forces and will not act unilaterally by sending troops. But to be fair to Andrews, he was suggesting Australia push the United States to change the parameters of the involvement to ensure boots on the ground. He did not suggest that Australia alone should send special forces troops. | Morrison has underlined several times that Australia is part of a coalition of forces and will not act unilaterally by sending troops. But to be fair to Andrews, he was suggesting Australia push the United States to change the parameters of the involvement to ensure boots on the ground. He did not suggest that Australia alone should send special forces troops. |
| Here is more of Morrison: | Here is more of Morrison: |
| It’s important in these situations that we remain very calm and that we work in concert with our partners in this theatre and that we don’t have some sort of hot-headed response to these issues, that we remain very measured and calibrated with our partners and we remain focused on getting the job done. | It’s important in these situations that we remain very calm and that we work in concert with our partners in this theatre and that we don’t have some sort of hot-headed response to these issues, that we remain very measured and calibrated with our partners and we remain focused on getting the job done. |
| Morrison is asked what is “at play” in the government, with Tony Abbott and Kevin Andrews calling for a different approach on national security. Morrison says he won’t go into commentary and then apparently contrasts the less inflammatory approach of the new leadership. | Morrison is asked what is “at play” in the government, with Tony Abbott and Kevin Andrews calling for a different approach on national security. Morrison says he won’t go into commentary and then apparently contrasts the less inflammatory approach of the new leadership. |
| What we won’t entertain is the sort of approach which will set one Australian against another because that’s what Daesh wants. Daesh wants conflict in this country. It wants that. And we’re going to deny them that. I think Australians will also not be intimidated out of the free and open lifestyle that we enjoy in this country. | What we won’t entertain is the sort of approach which will set one Australian against another because that’s what Daesh wants. Daesh wants conflict in this country. It wants that. And we’re going to deny them that. I think Australians will also not be intimidated out of the free and open lifestyle that we enjoy in this country. |
| 10.56pm GMT22:56 | 10.56pm GMT22:56 |
| Scott Morrison slaps down Kevin Andrews call for special forces in Syria | Scott Morrison slaps down Kevin Andrews call for special forces in Syria |
| The treasurer has rejected the former defence minister’s free advice on Syria. Andrews urged Turnbull to show leadership and call on the US to send special operations forces and related personnel to defeat Isis. Surely not, says Morrison. | The treasurer has rejected the former defence minister’s free advice on Syria. Andrews urged Turnbull to show leadership and call on the US to send special operations forces and related personnel to defeat Isis. Surely not, says Morrison. |
| Once again I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Australia should be acting unilaterally on these issues. And to suggest that we should take some unilateral action in this area, I would find very surprising. I’m sure that’s not what the former defence minister would be suggesting. That would be contrary to everything that was previously being done and equally under his own administration. | Once again I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Australia should be acting unilaterally on these issues. And to suggest that we should take some unilateral action in this area, I would find very surprising. I’m sure that’s not what the former defence minister would be suggesting. That would be contrary to everything that was previously being done and equally under his own administration. |
| 10.48pm GMT22:48 | 10.48pm GMT22:48 |
| Scott Morrison: we don't want a hot-headed response to terrorism | Scott Morrison: we don't want a hot-headed response to terrorism |
| There is a counter insurgency going on within the right in the Coalition and some of supporters. Andrew Bolt has written a column today critical of Turnbull for: | There is a counter insurgency going on within the right in the Coalition and some of supporters. Andrew Bolt has written a column today critical of Turnbull for: |
| siding with the catastrophically weak president Barack Obama. | siding with the catastrophically weak president Barack Obama. |
| Kevin Andrews column urged Turnbull to show some leadership and send special operations forces into Syria. | Kevin Andrews column urged Turnbull to show some leadership and send special operations forces into Syria. |
| 2GB’s Ray Hadley has criticised the PM this morning for comments he made before coming to the leadership. I am trying to track those comments but the substance, according to Hadley, was that the debate on national security and counter-terrorism shouldn’t be over the top or descend into a caricature. | 2GB’s Ray Hadley has criticised the PM this morning for comments he made before coming to the leadership. I am trying to track those comments but the substance, according to Hadley, was that the debate on national security and counter-terrorism shouldn’t be over the top or descend into a caricature. |
| Treasurer Scott Morrison says Turnbull has always had a realistic approach to national security. | Treasurer Scott Morrison says Turnbull has always had a realistic approach to national security. |
| His and the government’s approach, says Morrison, has been very “deliberate and sober”. | His and the government’s approach, says Morrison, has been very “deliberate and sober”. |
| What you don’t want...is a hot headed response. | What you don’t want...is a hot headed response. |
| Morrison said what happened in Paris was “horrendous”. He said while it was coordinated, he would not describe it as “sophisticated”. | Morrison said what happened in Paris was “horrendous”. He said while it was coordinated, he would not describe it as “sophisticated”. |
| 10.20pm GMT22:20 | 10.20pm GMT22:20 |
| Parliament sits at 10am this morning. While the dual nationals citizenship bill is the key thing in the lower house, the senate has a storm of legislation coming up - as is always the case at the end of the sitting year. These are the bills on the draft program today: | Parliament sits at 10am this morning. While the dual nationals citizenship bill is the key thing in the lower house, the senate has a storm of legislation coming up - as is always the case at the end of the sitting year. These are the bills on the draft program today: |
| So there are some controversial ones in there. | So there are some controversial ones in there. |
| The foreign acquisitions bill, which changes the limits for some foreign buyers before review by the Foreign Investment Review Board (Firb). | The foreign acquisitions bill, which changes the limits for some foreign buyers before review by the Foreign Investment Review Board (Firb). |
| The shipping bill relates to changes that free up ships to employ foreign crews. Remember the Australian cruise operator who alleged and it turned out to be correct, that a government official had advised him one of his options was to sack his Australian crew and hire a cheaper foreign crew. | The shipping bill relates to changes that free up ships to employ foreign crews. Remember the Australian cruise operator who alleged and it turned out to be correct, that a government official had advised him one of his options was to sack his Australian crew and hire a cheaper foreign crew. |
| 10.00pm GMT22:00 | 10.00pm GMT22:00 |
| I’m struggling to understand the origins of the war over the make up of 12,000 Syrian refugees. Under Tony Abbott, cabinet originally agreed that the numbers would focus on persecuted minorities. After a story in the Weekend Oz in which Catholic leaders expressed concerns at the plans being “derailed, Turnbull reasserted there were no changes in the original plan. That is, persecuted minorities, including Christians, would be heavily represented in the intake. | I’m struggling to understand the origins of the war over the make up of 12,000 Syrian refugees. Under Tony Abbott, cabinet originally agreed that the numbers would focus on persecuted minorities. After a story in the Weekend Oz in which Catholic leaders expressed concerns at the plans being “derailed, Turnbull reasserted there were no changes in the original plan. That is, persecuted minorities, including Christians, would be heavily represented in the intake. |
| Certainly some ministers, such as the treasurer Scott Morrison, have been underlining his expectation that the majority would be Christians. | Certainly some ministers, such as the treasurer Scott Morrison, have been underlining his expectation that the majority would be Christians. |
| But Tony Abbott said: | But Tony Abbott said: |
| There are Muslim minorities, Druze, Turkmen, Kurds, there are non-Muslim minorities, Christians, various sorts, Jews, Yazidis, Armenians, so there are persecuted minorities that are Muslim, there are persecuted minorities that are non-Muslim and our focus is on the persecuted minorities who have been displaced and are very unlikely ever to be able to go back to their original homes. | There are Muslim minorities, Druze, Turkmen, Kurds, there are non-Muslim minorities, Christians, various sorts, Jews, Yazidis, Armenians, so there are persecuted minorities that are Muslim, there are persecuted minorities that are non-Muslim and our focus is on the persecuted minorities who have been displaced and are very unlikely ever to be able to go back to their original homes. |
| (Note: this quote previously incorrectly attributed to Julie Bishop.) | (Note: this quote previously incorrectly attributed to Julie Bishop.) |
| But nowhere, have we seen any numbers as to what the make up of the 12,000 refugees will be. Obviously there is some difference of opinion within the government on how those numbers should fall. Which is partly what is leading to the concerns of Catholic leaders. | But nowhere, have we seen any numbers as to what the make up of the 12,000 refugees will be. Obviously there is some difference of opinion within the government on how those numbers should fall. Which is partly what is leading to the concerns of Catholic leaders. |
| The only new information on it this morning is from the NSW refugee resettlement co-ordinator general, Peter Shergold. Shalailah Medhora reports he has backed the government’s screening and security policies, saying that the rigorous process means that the resettlement of 12,000 Syrian and Iraqi refugees will likely occur in 2017. | The only new information on it this morning is from the NSW refugee resettlement co-ordinator general, Peter Shergold. Shalailah Medhora reports he has backed the government’s screening and security policies, saying that the rigorous process means that the resettlement of 12,000 Syrian and Iraqi refugees will likely occur in 2017. |
| I’m working on the basis that the vast majority will come next year in 12 or 18 months, not six months. I think it’s appropriate that screening, security, character checks are all be done before they arrive. | I’m working on the basis that the vast majority will come next year in 12 or 18 months, not six months. I think it’s appropriate that screening, security, character checks are all be done before they arrive. |
| Where the refugees will be resettled has not yet been determined, Shergold said, adding that some NSW regional centres like Wagga Wagga, Armidale and Coffs Harbour have said they will take the new arrivals if asked to. | Where the refugees will be resettled has not yet been determined, Shergold said, adding that some NSW regional centres like Wagga Wagga, Armidale and Coffs Harbour have said they will take the new arrivals if asked to. |
| It will depend on how many will be sponsored by family, and how many come without those connections. This is a free and an open country. People will move over time.” | It will depend on how many will be sponsored by family, and how many come without those connections. This is a free and an open country. People will move over time.” |
| Updated at 10.51pm GMT | Updated at 10.51pm GMT |
| 9.29pm GMT21:29 | 9.29pm GMT21:29 |
| Send troops to Syria, says Kevin Andrews | Send troops to Syria, says Kevin Andrews |
| Back to the hawks. | Back to the hawks. |
| Kevin Andrews says that the US is drifting on its response to the Isis threat. | Kevin Andrews says that the US is drifting on its response to the Isis threat. |
| This is why Obama’s response to the Paris atrocities and his remarks in Turkey are worrying. At a time when the coalition of nations fighting IS is seeking a strong, united response, Mr Obama said, “But what I’m not interested in doing is posing or pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning, or whatever other slogans they come up with.” | This is why Obama’s response to the Paris atrocities and his remarks in Turkey are worrying. At a time when the coalition of nations fighting IS is seeking a strong, united response, Mr Obama said, “But what I’m not interested in doing is posing or pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning, or whatever other slogans they come up with.” |
| Andrews says Obama has created a “false choice” between a “full scale invasion” of Syria or a political solution. Lying in the middle, says Andrews, is a “calibrated military response”. | Andrews says Obama has created a “false choice” between a “full scale invasion” of Syria or a political solution. Lying in the middle, says Andrews, is a “calibrated military response”. |
| Here is the Andrews plan. | Here is the Andrews plan. |
| First, no matter how much the West loathes President Putin, it should co-operate with him to defeat IS. | First, no matter how much the West loathes President Putin, it should co-operate with him to defeat IS. |
| Secondly, the idea of removing Assad should be postponed until and unless there is a credible alternative. Surely we should have learnt by now that removing a dictator without having an achievable plan for a viable alternative leaves a vacuum that enemies like IS will fill. | Secondly, the idea of removing Assad should be postponed until and unless there is a credible alternative. Surely we should have learnt by now that removing a dictator without having an achievable plan for a viable alternative leaves a vacuum that enemies like IS will fill. |
| Thirdly, a concerted campaign by coalition special operations forces and related personnel is required to defeat IS. | Thirdly, a concerted campaign by coalition special operations forces and related personnel is required to defeat IS. |
| 9.17pm GMT21:17 | 9.17pm GMT21:17 |
| Good morning bloganistas, | Good morning bloganistas, |
| Welcome to the last parliamentary fortnight of the year. It is all about national security in parliament as Malcolm Turnbull flies in after an 11 day tour which included three world summits. | Welcome to the last parliamentary fortnight of the year. It is all about national security in parliament as Malcolm Turnbull flies in after an 11 day tour which included three world summits. |
| First job is to reconvene the national security committee which includes: | First job is to reconvene the national security committee which includes: |
| Warren Truss, Julie Bishop, George Brandis, Marise Payne, Scott Morrison and Arthur Sinodinos. | Warren Truss, Julie Bishop, George Brandis, Marise Payne, Scott Morrison and Arthur Sinodinos. |
| Also up for debate is the “allegiance to Australia” bill that would strip dual nationals of their Australian citizenship for terrorist offences. It has bipartisan support. But remember there was argy bargy in the last sitting week because immigration minister Peter Dutton tried to push it through the house without allowing proper scrutiny and debate. We should hear a lot more of that today. | Also up for debate is the “allegiance to Australia” bill that would strip dual nationals of their Australian citizenship for terrorist offences. It has bipartisan support. But remember there was argy bargy in the last sitting week because immigration minister Peter Dutton tried to push it through the house without allowing proper scrutiny and debate. We should hear a lot more of that today. |
| The hawks are circling. After Tony Abbott’s call for troops in Syria, his former defence minister Kevin Andrews has written a similar opinion this morning in the Financial Review. I will come to that in a moment. | The hawks are circling. After Tony Abbott’s call for troops in Syria, his former defence minister Kevin Andrews has written a similar opinion this morning in the Financial Review. I will come to that in a moment. |
| Also on the parliamentary agenda is higher education. In the senate, changes to superannuation trustee rules and the shipping changes should come up today. | Also on the parliamentary agenda is higher education. In the senate, changes to superannuation trustee rules and the shipping changes should come up today. |
| Also, Mike Bowers has arrived. We are on Twitter @gabriellechan and @mpbowers, so join us there or below in the thread. Onwards. | Also, Mike Bowers has arrived. We are on Twitter @gabriellechan and @mpbowers, so join us there or below in the thread. Onwards. |