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| Nato meets as Russia confirms one of two pilots dead after jet shot down - as it happened | Nato meets as Russia confirms one of two pilots dead after jet shot down - as it happened |
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| 7.17pm GMT | 7.17pm GMT |
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| Russia has also now put out its own image in an attempt to counter the radar picture provided earlier by Turkey (See 10.26). | Russia has also now put out its own image in an attempt to counter the radar picture provided earlier by Turkey (See 10.26). |
| While the Turkish image appeared to show that the Russian jet briefly flew over southern Turkey before it as shot down, Russia’s suggests that there has been no airspace violation. | While the Turkish image appeared to show that the Russian jet briefly flew over southern Turkey before it as shot down, Russia’s suggests that there has been no airspace violation. |
| Warning that we’re headed for the territory surrounding the recriminations over the shooting down last year of a Malaysian airline over Ukraine, Moscow-based Alec Luhn tweets: | Warning that we’re headed for the territory surrounding the recriminations over the shooting down last year of a Malaysian airline over Ukraine, Moscow-based Alec Luhn tweets: |
| Russia counters Turkish radar pic with flight map showing no airspace violation. MH17 deniability quagmire detected pic.twitter.com/l8OYlPUXBp | Russia counters Turkish radar pic with flight map showing no airspace violation. MH17 deniability quagmire detected pic.twitter.com/l8OYlPUXBp |
| We’re going to wind down our live blog coverage of events here for now. | We’re going to wind down our live blog coverage of events here for now. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 7.19pm GMT | at 7.19pm GMT |
| 7.07pm GMT | 7.07pm GMT |
| 19:07 | 19:07 |
| There has been abundance of images today surrounding the downed Russian jet, which has generated suspicions among some. | There has been abundance of images today surrounding the downed Russian jet, which has generated suspicions among some. |
| Lindsey Hilsum, Channel 4 News International Editor, asks: | Lindsey Hilsum, Channel 4 News International Editor, asks: |
| How come a Turkish TV crew was in the right place, filming in the right direction as Russian plane shot down? Lucky? Or tipped off? | How come a Turkish TV crew was in the right place, filming in the right direction as Russian plane shot down? Lucky? Or tipped off? |
| 7.05pm GMT | 7.05pm GMT |
| 19:05 | 19:05 |
| Elsewhere in the same conflict zone, an Assyrian group has said that the Islamic State (Isis) militant group have released 10 more Assyrian Christian hostages they had held captive in Syria since February. | Elsewhere in the same conflict zone, an Assyrian group has said that the Islamic State (Isis) militant group have released 10 more Assyrian Christian hostages they had held captive in Syria since February. |
| The Associated Press reports: | The Associated Press reports: |
| The 10 were part of more than 220 Assyrian Christians captured by the extremist group after it overran communities on the southern bank of Khabur River in the northeastern Syrian province of Hassakeh. | The 10 were part of more than 220 Assyrian Christians captured by the extremist group after it overran communities on the southern bank of Khabur River in the northeastern Syrian province of Hassakeh. |
| The Assyrian Network for Human Rights said the 10 were released on Tuesday and that they are all in good condition. The Stockholm-based network says there are five women among the released. | The Assyrian Network for Human Rights said the 10 were released on Tuesday and that they are all in good condition. The Stockholm-based network says there are five women among the released. |
| It says the release brings the number of Assyrian hostages that have so far been released to 98. | It says the release brings the number of Assyrian hostages that have so far been released to 98. |
| The network also says the release was the result of ongoing mediation efforts by the head of the Assyrian Church of the East in Syria. | The network also says the release was the result of ongoing mediation efforts by the head of the Assyrian Church of the East in Syria. |
| 7.00pm GMT | 7.00pm GMT |
| 19:00 | 19:00 |
| More now from the Russian military, and about that new statement that a marine on a helicopter sent in to search for the crew of the downed jet also died. | More now from the Russian military, and about that new statement that a marine on a helicopter sent in to search for the crew of the downed jet also died. |
| Russia’s military general staff is quoted by Russian news agencies as saying that one of the pilots of the Su-24 warplane that was shot down by Turkey was killed by groundfire as he parachuted from his crippled plane. | Russia’s military general staff is quoted by Russian news agencies as saying that one of the pilots of the Su-24 warplane that was shot down by Turkey was killed by groundfire as he parachuted from his crippled plane. |
| General staff spokesman Lt. Gen. Sergei Rudskoi, added that rebels in Syria fired on a Russian helicopter that was searching for the two pilots of the Su-24. | General staff spokesman Lt. Gen. Sergei Rudskoi, added that rebels in Syria fired on a Russian helicopter that was searching for the two pilots of the Su-24. |
| The shooting killed one crew member on the Mi-8 helicopter and forced it to land in neutral territory, he says. | The shooting killed one crew member on the Mi-8 helicopter and forced it to land in neutral territory, he says. |
| The rest of the crew was evacuated. Rudskoi also said that Russian radar data showed that Turkish warplanes had violated Syrian airspace in the course of shooting down the Russian plane | The rest of the crew was evacuated. Rudskoi also said that Russian radar data showed that Turkish warplanes had violated Syrian airspace in the course of shooting down the Russian plane |
| 6.54pm GMT | 6.54pm GMT |
| 18:54 | 18:54 |
| Martin Chulov | Martin Chulov |
| When Putin labeled Turkey “accomplices of terrorists,” he was hinting at complex relationship which includes links between senior Isis figures and Turkish officials, explains the Guardian’s Martin Chulov in this analysis. | When Putin labeled Turkey “accomplices of terrorists,” he was hinting at complex relationship which includes links between senior Isis figures and Turkish officials, explains the Guardian’s Martin Chulov in this analysis. |
| Turkey’s international airports have also been busy. Many, if not most, of the estimated 15,000-20,000 foreign fighters to have joined the Islamic State (Isis) have first flown into Istanbul or Adana, or arrived by ferry along its Mediterranean coast. | Turkey’s international airports have also been busy. Many, if not most, of the estimated 15,000-20,000 foreign fighters to have joined the Islamic State (Isis) have first flown into Istanbul or Adana, or arrived by ferry along its Mediterranean coast. |
| The influx has offered fertile ground to allies of Assad who, well before a Turkish jet shot down a Russian fighter on Tuesday, had enabled, or even supported Isis. Vladimir Putin’s reference to Turkey as “accomplices of terrorists” is likely to resonate even among some of Ankara’s backers. | The influx has offered fertile ground to allies of Assad who, well before a Turkish jet shot down a Russian fighter on Tuesday, had enabled, or even supported Isis. Vladimir Putin’s reference to Turkey as “accomplices of terrorists” is likely to resonate even among some of Ankara’s backers. |
| From midway through 2012, when jihadis started to travel to Syria, their presence was apparent at all points of the journey to the border. | From midway through 2012, when jihadis started to travel to Syria, their presence was apparent at all points of the journey to the border. |
| At Istanbul airport, in the southern cities of Hatay and Gaziantep – both of which were staging points – and in the border villages. | At Istanbul airport, in the southern cities of Hatay and Gaziantep – both of which were staging points – and in the border villages. |
| Foreigners on their way to fight remained fixtures on these routes until late in 2014 when, after continued pressure from the EU states and the US, coordinated efforts were made to turn them back. | Foreigners on their way to fight remained fixtures on these routes until late in 2014 when, after continued pressure from the EU states and the US, coordinated efforts were made to turn them back. |
| Read on here | Read on here |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 7.10pm GMT | at 7.10pm GMT |
| 6.34pm GMT | 6.34pm GMT |
| 18:34 | 18:34 |
| Russia: Marine on rescue helicopter died | Russia: Marine on rescue helicopter died |
| Russian journalists are being given a briefing by the defence ministry, I’m told by the Guardian’s Shaun Walker in Moscow. | Russian journalists are being given a briefing by the defence ministry, I’m told by the Guardian’s Shaun Walker in Moscow. |
| These are the main lines so far as reported by RIA Novosti: | These are the main lines so far as reported by RIA Novosti: |
| One of the two pilots has died, from “fire from the ground”. | One of the two pilots has died, from “fire from the ground”. |
| The fate of the second pilot remains unclear. A helicopter sent to rescue the pilots was hit, performed an emergency landing, and one of the marines on board died. | The fate of the second pilot remains unclear. A helicopter sent to rescue the pilots was hit, performed an emergency landing, and one of the marines on board died. |
| Military contacts with Turkey will be severed. | Military contacts with Turkey will be severed. |
| Russia says Syrian air traffic control shows the Turkish F-16 which shot down the Russian plane violated Syrian airspace. | Russia says Syrian air traffic control shows the Turkish F-16 which shot down the Russian plane violated Syrian airspace. |
| It’s Ben Quinn here picking up the blog now from Mark. | It’s Ben Quinn here picking up the blog now from Mark. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 6.37pm GMT | at 6.37pm GMT |
| 6.24pm GMT | 6.24pm GMT |
| 18:24 | 18:24 |
| Here is a summary of the Obama-Hollande press conference at the White House. Ben Quinn is now taking over. | Here is a summary of the Obama-Hollande press conference at the White House. Ben Quinn is now taking over. |
| 6.10pm GMT | 6.10pm GMT |
| 18:10 | 18:10 |
| In this video, a deputy commander of rebel Turkmen forces in Syria says his men shot at two Russian pilots after they ejected from their jet. He also claims to show parts of a Russian military parachute. Both Russia and its ally, the Syrian government, have carried out strikes in the area where the plane came down. | In this video, a deputy commander of rebel Turkmen forces in Syria says his men shot at two Russian pilots after they ejected from their jet. He also claims to show parts of a Russian military parachute. Both Russia and its ally, the Syrian government, have carried out strikes in the area where the plane came down. |
| 6.04pm GMT | 6.04pm GMT |
| 18:04 | 18:04 |
| Russian military: one pilot is dead | Russian military: one pilot is dead |
| The Russians have contradicted Turkish claims that both Russian pilots are alive. The Russian military general staff says one of the men is dead, reports the RIA news agency. | The Russians have contradicted Turkish claims that both Russian pilots are alive. The Russian military general staff says one of the men is dead, reports the RIA news agency. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 6.44pm GMT | at 6.44pm GMT |
| 5.59pm GMT | 5.59pm GMT |
| 17:59 | 17:59 |
| In Brussels, Nato officials say the Russian jet entered Turkish airspace before it was shot down. Earlier the US said the Russian incursion into Turkish air space lasted just seconds. Nato ambassadors apparently believe Turkey could have shown more restraint. This from Reuters. | In Brussels, Nato officials say the Russian jet entered Turkish airspace before it was shot down. Earlier the US said the Russian incursion into Turkish air space lasted just seconds. Nato ambassadors apparently believe Turkey could have shown more restraint. This from Reuters. |
| Diplomats present at the meeting told Reuters that while none of the 28 Nato envoys defended Russia’s actions, many expressed concern that Turkey did not escort the Russian warplane out of its airspace. “There are other ways of dealing with these kinds of incidents,” said one diplomat who declined to be named. | Diplomats present at the meeting told Reuters that while none of the 28 Nato envoys defended Russia’s actions, many expressed concern that Turkey did not escort the Russian warplane out of its airspace. “There are other ways of dealing with these kinds of incidents,” said one diplomat who declined to be named. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 6.13pm GMT | at 6.13pm GMT |
| 5.49pm GMT | 5.49pm GMT |
| 17:49 | 17:49 |
| Hollande says strikes must be against Daesh and stresses the need to resolve the Syria crisis, which is relevant not just to Syria’s neighbours but the wider world as refugees leave the region. The French president stresses France will not deploy ground troops as that is up to local forces. Obama says the US is backing local forces with training and equipment as well as launching air strikes. He says the Vienna process, which includes Iran (also backers of Assad) for the first time, is the best option. | Hollande says strikes must be against Daesh and stresses the need to resolve the Syria crisis, which is relevant not just to Syria’s neighbours but the wider world as refugees leave the region. The French president stresses France will not deploy ground troops as that is up to local forces. Obama says the US is backing local forces with training and equipment as well as launching air strikes. He says the Vienna process, which includes Iran (also backers of Assad) for the first time, is the best option. |
| 5.34pm GMT | 5.34pm GMT |
| 17:34 | 17:34 |
| Obama: 'Turkey and Russia must talk and de-escalate' | Obama: 'Turkey and Russia must talk and de-escalate' |
| On the downing of the Russian plane, Obama says it has the right to defend its territory and its airspace, and stresses the importance of Turkey and Russia working to de-escalate the situation. He says if Russia concentrates on Isis there would be fewer chances of mistakes. “The problem has been Russia’s focus on propping up Assad rather than concentrating on Isil.” | On the downing of the Russian plane, Obama says it has the right to defend its territory and its airspace, and stresses the importance of Turkey and Russia working to de-escalate the situation. He says if Russia concentrates on Isis there would be fewer chances of mistakes. “The problem has been Russia’s focus on propping up Assad rather than concentrating on Isil.” |