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| Malcolm Turnbull lays a wreath at the Bataclan concert hall in Paris – politics live | Malcolm Turnbull lays a wreath at the Bataclan concert hall in Paris – politics live |
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| 10.14pm GMT22:14 | |
| 'The problem with Islam: discuss' | |
| Other bits and pieces in the news cycle this morning. | |
| Various government types are out reflecting on what we can term, ‘the problem with Islam: discuss.’ | |
| The resources minister Josh Frydenberg thought on Sky News yesterday morning that members of the Islamic community must acknowledge that a “small but significant” number of its adherents are extremists. He also gave the Grand Mufti a swift kick on the way through. | |
| Josh Frydenberg: | |
| We have to acknowledge that religion is part of this problem. I would say it is a problem within Islam. | |
| Then a number of colleagues thought they might join in via comments to Rosie Lewis in The Australian. Andrew Nikolic felt terrorists had “hijacked” Islam for their own “perverse, barbaric purposes”. | |
| It is therefore vital that the Muslim leadership or Grand Mufti are speaking with one voice in those issues. The last thing we want is mixed messages to young Muslims who seem to be attracted to transnational terrorism in increasing numbers. I think the Grand Mufti failed in that role with his initial response … when religious motivation for these attacks is very strong. | |
| Over in the Herald Sun, Andrew Hastie had some feelings too. | |
| Modern Islam needs to cohere with the Australian way of life, our values and institutions. In so far as it doesn’t, it needs reform. | |
| In case you haven’t been following this debate in recent times the prime minister has been going out of his way to hose down this sort of talk in an effort to build bridges with the Islamic community. | |
| Watch this space. | |
| 9.57pm GMT21:57 | |
| Meanwhile, on a tennis court, not that far away, it’s the match of the century – the serially competitive Albo versus the serially ebullient Bruce Billson. | |
| Thwock. Boom. Blast. | |
| Good morning Mike Bowers. | |
| 9.48pm GMT21:48 | |
| I think Turnbull’s contribution at the UN climate summit is tomorrow our time but The Australian is telling us this morning the prime minister will hold open the prospect of increasing Australia’s current emissions reduction target – which, if true, would not be a shock, given he’s been laying the ground for that over quite some period of time. | |
| Turnbull has been trying to walk a line with climate policy: not upending the Direct Action policy he inherited from Tony Abbott (that would be an act of war with the conservative wing of his own party) but signalling it and other climate actions might change if they need to change. When he was in Manila recently for the Apec summit, Turnbull said rather airily the government might draw on international permits to boost the overall emissions reduction effort (a perfectly sensible concept that was regarded as a thought crime in Tony Abbott’s time.) | |
| How Turnbull pivots out of Australia’s currently suboptimal climate policy into a more workable system is one of his key tests as prime minister. Turnbull knows Direct Action is a dud, he’s said as much publicly. If he persists with Abbott’s policy framework over the long haul without any adjustment it will expose him as being completely devoid of principle. | |
| But he has to carry the party with him, and this is the same party that elevated idiocy to an art form with Tony Abbott’s populist, anti-reason assault against carbon pricing. The timeframe Turnbull’s working on is careful iterations now and adjustments after the next federal election, should the government be returned. | |
| Labor is attempting to make sure Turnbull doesn’t, as Bill Shorten puts it, sell out to the right of the Liberal party on climate change. | |
| Shorten, as I’ve mentioned, is an observer in Paris, attempting to play externalised conscience. The Labor leader has done a radio interview in Australia this morning, on the theme of “Malcolm Turnbull in Tony Abbott’s clothing” at the Paris climate summit. | |
| Shorten says he gets Abbott being a climate change wrecker but ... | |
| .. what’s Malcolm Turnbull’s excuse? | |
| He gets climate change. | |
| Updated at 9.59pm GMT | |
| 9.25pm GMT21:25 | 9.25pm GMT21:25 |
| Thanks to my colleague Shalailah Medhora for the Morrison quotes, which are from the Viewpoint show. | Thanks to my colleague Shalailah Medhora for the Morrison quotes, which are from the Viewpoint show. |
| 9.18pm GMT21:18 | 9.18pm GMT21:18 |
| Scott Morrison, fire fighter | Scott Morrison, fire fighter |
| To Scott Morrison now, and the events of February. Morrison was asked on Sky News whether he was offered treasury by Turnbull early in 2015. | To Scott Morrison now, and the events of February. Morrison was asked on Sky News whether he was offered treasury by Turnbull early in 2015. |
| Scott Morrison: | Scott Morrison: |
| I do recollect talking to Malcolm Turnbull, he’s a cabinet colleague of mine, it wasn’t that extraordinary that cabinet colleagues would talk to each other. | I do recollect talking to Malcolm Turnbull, he’s a cabinet colleague of mine, it wasn’t that extraordinary that cabinet colleagues would talk to each other. |
| Q: About the leadership issues and the treasury position? | Q: About the leadership issues and the treasury position? |
| It was a difficult time and we had a backbench-initiated spill motion. That’s almost a year ago now. It’s all well in the past. Nothing came of it. | It was a difficult time and we had a backbench-initiated spill motion. That’s almost a year ago now. It’s all well in the past. Nothing came of it. |
| There was no arrangement, no deal, no offers, none of this stuff. I think it was just excited commentary, and it sounds like people are trying to get a lot out the door in terms of Christmas purchases of books. | There was no arrangement, no deal, no offers, none of this stuff. I think it was just excited commentary, and it sounds like people are trying to get a lot out the door in terms of Christmas purchases of books. |
| That’s what’s known in the trade as the non-denial denial. | That’s what’s known in the trade as the non-denial denial. |
| Couple of thoughts on this. | Couple of thoughts on this. |
| Updated at 9.49pm GMT | |
| 8.53pm GMT20:53 | 8.53pm GMT20:53 |
| Good morning | Good morning |
| Hello good people and welcome to bedlam. We have entered the final parliamentary sitting week of 2015. The long range atmospheric forecast is scattered, with a strong chance of chaos. | Hello good people and welcome to bedlam. We have entered the final parliamentary sitting week of 2015. The long range atmospheric forecast is scattered, with a strong chance of chaos. |
| Let’s start with scattered. | Let’s start with scattered. |
| Malcolm Turnbull has arrived in Paris to make his short presentation at the UN climate talks. The opposition leader Bill Shorten is also in the French capital – presumably with an aspiration to be the prime minister’s externalised conscience when it comes to the current ambition of Australia’s emissions reduction targets. | Malcolm Turnbull has arrived in Paris to make his short presentation at the UN climate talks. The opposition leader Bill Shorten is also in the French capital – presumably with an aspiration to be the prime minister’s externalised conscience when it comes to the current ambition of Australia’s emissions reduction targets. |
| Before hitting the climate shindig, Turnbull stopped first at the Bataclan concert venue with the New Zealand prime minister John Key. | Before hitting the climate shindig, Turnbull stopped first at the Bataclan concert venue with the New Zealand prime minister John Key. |
| The two leaders paid their respects at the venue that bore the brunt of the horrific terror attacks in the city just a couple of weeks ago. I see from the TV feed that the PM tried a little French during his visit at the theatre. | The two leaders paid their respects at the venue that bore the brunt of the horrific terror attacks in the city just a couple of weeks ago. I see from the TV feed that the PM tried a little French during his visit at the theatre. |
| Turnbull made some brief remarks (in English) before laying a wreath. | Turnbull made some brief remarks (in English) before laying a wreath. |
| We are here – the New Zealand prime minister and the Australian prime minister and our wives – and we are here offering the people of France, the people of Paris, our most heartfelt condolences and our unflinching solidarity in the face of this terrorism. We are all together. We are with France. We are with the people of Paris. We are with all people committed to freedom in this battle against terrorism, against violence, against violent extremism. | We are here – the New Zealand prime minister and the Australian prime minister and our wives – and we are here offering the people of France, the people of Paris, our most heartfelt condolences and our unflinching solidarity in the face of this terrorism. We are all together. We are with France. We are with the people of Paris. We are with all people committed to freedom in this battle against terrorism, against violence, against violent extremism. |
| My live coverage of national politics this week will loop in the events in the other hemisphere as much as possible. Marvellously my colleague Lenore Taylor is now wheels down in Paris and will be covering the summit developments. | My live coverage of national politics this week will loop in the events in the other hemisphere as much as possible. Marvellously my colleague Lenore Taylor is now wheels down in Paris and will be covering the summit developments. |
| Now, to chaos. | Now, to chaos. |
| The last week of parliament is always ears pinned back, hair flying and this week is unlikely to be an exception. Parliament needs to get through a bunch of business this week, including the controversial citizenship legislation which is part of the counter terror package(s). | The last week of parliament is always ears pinned back, hair flying and this week is unlikely to be an exception. Parliament needs to get through a bunch of business this week, including the controversial citizenship legislation which is part of the counter terror package(s). |
| Outside chamber nuts and bolts there’s also some embers burning again courtesy of Fairfax Media’s Peter Hartcher tossing over the Abbott/Turnbull leadership fire. Hartcher revives the story this morning that Scott Morrison was offered the treasury portfolio by Malcolm Turnbull in the run up to the failed spill motion in February. Morrison has already been out on that and I’ll talk you through that in the next post. | Outside chamber nuts and bolts there’s also some embers burning again courtesy of Fairfax Media’s Peter Hartcher tossing over the Abbott/Turnbull leadership fire. Hartcher revives the story this morning that Scott Morrison was offered the treasury portfolio by Malcolm Turnbull in the run up to the failed spill motion in February. Morrison has already been out on that and I’ll talk you through that in the next post. |
| In the meantime, the comments thread is wide open for your business and we are up and at ‘em on the Twits @murpharoo and @mpbowers | In the meantime, the comments thread is wide open for your business and we are up and at ‘em on the Twits @murpharoo and @mpbowers |
| Buckle up. Here comes Monday. | Buckle up. Here comes Monday. |