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New Hampshire voters question Clinton as Christie packs town halls – as it happened | New Hampshire voters question Clinton as Christie packs town halls – as it happened |
(10 days later) | |
12.32am GMT | 12.32am GMT |
00:32 | 00:32 |
We’ll be picking up our campaign coverage in tonight’s live blog for the Republican presidential debate, which starts at 8pm ET on ABC. | We’ll be picking up our campaign coverage in tonight’s live blog for the Republican presidential debate, which starts at 8pm ET on ABC. |
11.51pm GMT | 11.51pm GMT |
23:51 | 23:51 |
Behind the scenes of the Republican debate … with reporters. Ben Jacobs does a walking tour of the arena at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire. | Behind the scenes of the Republican debate … with reporters. Ben Jacobs does a walking tour of the arena at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire. |
NB: Ben’s peers filmed the video on Periscope, so mobile users need the app. On a computer should work fine, though. | NB: Ben’s peers filmed the video on Periscope, so mobile users need the app. On a computer should work fine, though. |
Crack @guardian reporter @bencjacobs takes his colleagues on a hilarious walking tour of the Republican debate arena https://t.co/MzfVs8bfg2 | Crack @guardian reporter @bencjacobs takes his colleagues on a hilarious walking tour of the Republican debate arena https://t.co/MzfVs8bfg2 |
11.15pm GMT | 11.15pm GMT |
23:15 | 23:15 |
But are you? | But are you? |
Debate ready!!! @realDonaldTrump #MakeAmericaGreatAgain #TrumpTrain pic.twitter.com/qE6suiO315 | Debate ready!!! @realDonaldTrump #MakeAmericaGreatAgain #TrumpTrain pic.twitter.com/qE6suiO315 |
10.37pm GMT | 10.37pm GMT |
22:37 | 22:37 |
Adam Gabbatt | Adam Gabbatt |
Chris Christie might be onto something in New Hampshire, reckons Adam Gabbatt in Bedford, New Hampshire. If the crowd at one of his rallies on Saturday morning is anything to go by, he appears to have carved out a niche for himself as a sort of toned-down Donald Trump. | Chris Christie might be onto something in New Hampshire, reckons Adam Gabbatt in Bedford, New Hampshire. If the crowd at one of his rallies on Saturday morning is anything to go by, he appears to have carved out a niche for himself as a sort of toned-down Donald Trump. |
“I like Donald Trump but I don’t like the harshness that he has. Plus the fact that he belittles a lot of people,” said voter Paul Williams. To that end, he had decided to support Christie. | “I like Donald Trump but I don’t like the harshness that he has. Plus the fact that he belittles a lot of people,” said voter Paul Williams. To that end, he had decided to support Christie. |
Williams, 62, said he liked Christie’s aggressive stance on national security and immigration. He also liked the New Jersey governor’s presence. | Williams, 62, said he liked Christie’s aggressive stance on national security and immigration. He also liked the New Jersey governor’s presence. |
“He’s got a great personality,” Williams said. “I like his directness. He looks you in the eye and talks directly to you.” | “He’s got a great personality,” Williams said. “I like his directness. He looks you in the eye and talks directly to you.” |
At a packed event in Bedford on Saturday morning Christie did just that. He was introduced by Massachusetts governor Charlie Baker, who before ceding the floor gave a long speech that sounded as if he himself was preparing a presidential run. | At a packed event in Bedford on Saturday morning Christie did just that. He was introduced by Massachusetts governor Charlie Baker, who before ceding the floor gave a long speech that sounded as if he himself was preparing a presidential run. |
Big crowd for Chris Christie in Bedford NH. The sign says "Telling it like it is" pic.twitter.com/7oUyGkYYf0 | Big crowd for Chris Christie in Bedford NH. The sign says "Telling it like it is" pic.twitter.com/7oUyGkYYf0 |
While Baker talked up his own achievements, occasionally praising the New Jersey governor as well, Christie stared straight ahead, like a boxer before a fight. | While Baker talked up his own achievements, occasionally praising the New Jersey governor as well, Christie stared straight ahead, like a boxer before a fight. |
When Baker finally offered Christie the mic he snatched it triumphantly. | When Baker finally offered Christie the mic he snatched it triumphantly. |
“All right!” he shouted. There were cheers. “The longest week in American politics is only half over,” he said, referring to the week between the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary. The week was “like dog years”, he said. | “All right!” he shouted. There were cheers. “The longest week in American politics is only half over,” he said, referring to the week between the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary. The week was “like dog years”, he said. |
Christie got in a quick dig at Hillary Clinton. “She is hungry to be in public housing again and we’re going to try and kick her out,” he said, before explaining why he was in the race. | Christie got in a quick dig at Hillary Clinton. “She is hungry to be in public housing again and we’re going to try and kick her out,” he said, before explaining why he was in the race. |
“I’m running for the 45-year-old construction worker” who has seen his wage decrease, Christie said, mentioning also “a soldier” who was suffering due to a lack of leadership in the military. (So he’s running for two voters, by my count.) | “I’m running for the 45-year-old construction worker” who has seen his wage decrease, Christie said, mentioning also “a soldier” who was suffering due to a lack of leadership in the military. (So he’s running for two voters, by my count.) |
A woman named Phyllis explained Christie’s appeal by contrasting him with Trump. | A woman named Phyllis explained Christie’s appeal by contrasting him with Trump. |
“I like what Donald Trump has to say,” she said. “But we’d probably be at war in six months.” | “I like what Donald Trump has to say,” she said. “But we’d probably be at war in six months.” |
Christie finished his speech by talking about dealing with hurricane Sandy and its impact on New Jersey. He was the one who ultimately had to deal with it, he said. When a situation arises, he said, there is a point during discussions with aides “where the table goes quiet”. “And they look at you and say: ‘What do we do governor?’ | Christie finished his speech by talking about dealing with hurricane Sandy and its impact on New Jersey. He was the one who ultimately had to deal with it, he said. When a situation arises, he said, there is a point during discussions with aides “where the table goes quiet”. “And they look at you and say: ‘What do we do governor?’ |
“There’s no way a roll call in the Senate prepares you for that,” he added, in a transparent jab at Marco Rubio. | “There’s no way a roll call in the Senate prepares you for that,” he added, in a transparent jab at Marco Rubio. |
Before the governor took the stage, a supporter attempted to whip up the crowd with the most absurdly extended metaphor I’ve heard in a long time. Christie “doesn’t see the glass as half full or half empty,” the supporter said. “He sees the volume of the liquid and sees it as something that can drench someone’s thirst.” | Before the governor took the stage, a supporter attempted to whip up the crowd with the most absurdly extended metaphor I’ve heard in a long time. Christie “doesn’t see the glass as half full or half empty,” the supporter said. “He sees the volume of the liquid and sees it as something that can drench someone’s thirst.” |
10.17pm GMT | 10.17pm GMT |
22:17 | 22:17 |
Clinton: 'violence against transgender women is a terrible problem' | Clinton: 'violence against transgender women is a terrible problem' |
Clinton takes a last question, about anti-LGBT discrimination including economic discrimination. | Clinton takes a last question, about anti-LGBT discrimination including economic discrimination. |
“Violence against transgender women is a terrible problem in so many places in America,” she says. | “Violence against transgender women is a terrible problem in so many places in America,” she says. |
She says addressing such discrimination and related problems would be a top priority of her presidency. | She says addressing such discrimination and related problems would be a top priority of her presidency. |
That’s it for Clinton in Henniker. She has one more scheduled stop in New Hampshire today, a get-out-the-vote rally in Portsmouth. | That’s it for Clinton in Henniker. She has one more scheduled stop in New Hampshire today, a get-out-the-vote rally in Portsmouth. |
As your blogger typed those words, as the crowd began to file out, a young man was overheard to say, “That wasn’t as much fun as Bernie.” | As your blogger typed those words, as the crowd began to file out, a young man was overheard to say, “That wasn’t as much fun as Bernie.” |
10.13pm GMT | 10.13pm GMT |
22:13 | 22:13 |
Next question: What will you do for Muslims? | Next question: What will you do for Muslims? |
“There’s a struggle going on inside Islam,” Clinton says. It’s not just her assessment, it’s the assessment of Jordanian King Abdullah and other Muslim leaders. | “There’s a struggle going on inside Islam,” Clinton says. It’s not just her assessment, it’s the assessment of Jordanian King Abdullah and other Muslim leaders. |
What would be considered as authoritative? Whose voices would be listened too? I can assure you, as president, I would do everything I could to support Muslim leaders, academics. | What would be considered as authoritative? Whose voices would be listened too? I can assure you, as president, I would do everything I could to support Muslim leaders, academics. |
But this is a very, very consequential period for Islam. You’ve got what is in effect a big split between Saudi Arabia and Iran. You’ve got terrorist groups laying claim to the caliphate and calling other Muslims infidels. You’ve got strife in other parts of the world against Muslim minorities. | But this is a very, very consequential period for Islam. You’ve got what is in effect a big split between Saudi Arabia and Iran. You’ve got terrorist groups laying claim to the caliphate and calling other Muslims infidels. You’ve got strife in other parts of the world against Muslim minorities. |
Clinton says the president’s job is “not to take a public leading role in it” but to work behind the scenes to support Muslim leaders. | Clinton says the president’s job is “not to take a public leading role in it” but to work behind the scenes to support Muslim leaders. |
Clinton says she gives George W Bush credit for calling for religious tolerance, and that credit extends to Barack Obama. | Clinton says she gives George W Bush credit for calling for religious tolerance, and that credit extends to Barack Obama. |
That’s why Donald Trump and the other Republicans are so dangerous. That’s not just in the United States.. that’s broadcast around the world. | That’s why Donald Trump and the other Republicans are so dangerous. That’s not just in the United States.. that’s broadcast around the world. |
In fact we should be pulling the country together. | In fact we should be pulling the country together. |
10.07pm GMT | 10.07pm GMT |
22:07 | 22:07 |
Clinton: women held to higher standard | Clinton: women held to higher standard |
Clinton says there’s still a double standard applied to women who run for public office, and “that’s still true for women in a lot of other high positions.” | Clinton says there’s still a double standard applied to women who run for public office, and “that’s still true for women in a lot of other high positions.” |
As if it’s not true for women who are not in “high positions”? | As if it’s not true for women who are not in “high positions”? |
Clinton says she was talking with a friend about Bernie Sanders. The friend’s guy friend said he liked Sanders because “his hair was a mess and he yelled a lot.” | Clinton says she was talking with a friend about Bernie Sanders. The friend’s guy friend said he liked Sanders because “his hair was a mess and he yelled a lot.” |
“And I thought,” Clinton said, “boy, that would really work for any women we know!” | “And I thought,” Clinton said, “boy, that would really work for any women we know!” |
The crowd titters. | The crowd titters. |
The fact is, I do have a somewhat narrower path that I try to walk. Sometimes it comes across as a little more restrained, a little more careful, and I’m sure that’s true. | The fact is, I do have a somewhat narrower path that I try to walk. Sometimes it comes across as a little more restrained, a little more careful, and I’m sure that’s true. |
“I’m trying to be the first woman president of the United States of America. And there has never been one before. | “I’m trying to be the first woman president of the United States of America. And there has never been one before. |
“And there’s just a lot of processing that people are doing in their heads. And I can see it in their eyes. I know that.” | “And there’s just a lot of processing that people are doing in their heads. And I can see it in their eyes. I know that.” |
She says she had an encounter with a waitress in Manchester this morning who told her, “you look so much better in person.” | She says she had an encounter with a waitress in Manchester this morning who told her, “you look so much better in person.” |
Clinton laughs. | Clinton laughs. |
I take it as a compliment but you know, most people will never see me in person. So you’ve just got to live with that. | I take it as a compliment but you know, most people will never see me in person. So you’ve just got to live with that. |
9.58pm GMT | 9.58pm GMT |
21:58 | 21:58 |
On immigration, Clinton repeats that she would go beyond the executive actions Barack Obama has taken, to the limits of the law: | On immigration, Clinton repeats that she would go beyond the executive actions Barack Obama has taken, to the limits of the law: |
“I would go as far as I could go… I want to go as far as I can, under the law, obviously,” she says. | “I would go as far as I could go… I want to go as far as I can, under the law, obviously,” she says. |
Shut down family detention centers, private prisons… I want to end the raids, I don’t think we need to do that. | Shut down family detention centers, private prisons… I want to end the raids, I don’t think we need to do that. |
9.55pm GMT | 9.55pm GMT |
21:55 | 21:55 |
Did you hear about Marco Rubio in Iowa? He was second-runner up!* | Did you hear about Marco Rubio in Iowa? He was second-runner up!* |
I just talked to a voter who thought Rubio won the Iowa caucuses. "He didn't win? So what the hell is he celebrating about?" | I just talked to a voter who thought Rubio won the Iowa caucuses. "He didn't win? So what the hell is he celebrating about?" |
“They told us it couldn’t be done,” Rubio said in his cheerful celebration speech following his third-place finish in Iowa. The speech would’ve worked just as well as an actual victory speech. | “They told us it couldn’t be done,” Rubio said in his cheerful celebration speech following his third-place finish in Iowa. The speech would’ve worked just as well as an actual victory speech. |
If the voters don’t remember who won, maybe the DNC won’t remember either, when it comes to convention time? | If the voters don’t remember who won, maybe the DNC won’t remember either, when it comes to convention time? |
*At least the Republicans seem to have established a fairly secure correspondence between votes that were cast and results that were announced. The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs (@bencjacobs) has done some reporting that casts some doubt on whether the Democrats have done the same. | *At least the Republicans seem to have established a fairly secure correspondence between votes that were cast and results that were announced. The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs (@bencjacobs) has done some reporting that casts some doubt on whether the Democrats have done the same. |
Related: Iowa Democratic party altered precinct's caucus results during chaotic night | Related: Iowa Democratic party altered precinct's caucus results during chaotic night |
Updated | Updated |
at 10.01pm GMT | at 10.01pm GMT |
9.50pm GMT | 9.50pm GMT |
21:50 | 21:50 |
Clinton to youth: I support you, even if you don't support me | Clinton to youth: I support you, even if you don't support me |
Clinton is asked: how do you understand the momentum towards Bernie? | Clinton is asked: how do you understand the momentum towards Bernie? |
She gives an answer, in this town hall for students, that concedes Sanders’ strength with young people. | She gives an answer, in this town hall for students, that concedes Sanders’ strength with young people. |
“I am really happy to see so many young people involved in the political process,” Clinton says. She says the first time she came to New Hampshire was to campaign for Eugene McCarthy to end the Vietnam War. | “I am really happy to see so many young people involved in the political process,” Clinton says. She says the first time she came to New Hampshire was to campaign for Eugene McCarthy to end the Vietnam War. |
I know that Senator Sanders has a very big base of young voters, and they’re not supporting me. But I want you and any other young voters to know, I’m supporting you. This is not either-or. | I know that Senator Sanders has a very big base of young voters, and they’re not supporting me. But I want you and any other young voters to know, I’m supporting you. This is not either-or. |
She says a lot of Sanders supporters believe in free college or universal health care, but she believes in “debt-free college” and has worked decades on health care solutions. | She says a lot of Sanders supporters believe in free college or universal health care, but she believes in “debt-free college” and has worked decades on health care solutions. |
She does not mention the appeal of Bernie Sanders for voters who object specifically to her. | She does not mention the appeal of Bernie Sanders for voters who object specifically to her. |