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A senior policeman has accused some judges of being lenient on gun crime by overlooking mandatory five-year sentences for firearms possession.A senior policeman has accused some judges of being lenient on gun crime by overlooking mandatory five-year sentences for firearms possession.
Merseyside Chief Constable Bernard Hogan-Howe told the Times newspaper "very heavy sentences" were needed to stop people carrying guns.Merseyside Chief Constable Bernard Hogan-Howe told the Times newspaper "very heavy sentences" were needed to stop people carrying guns.
He said it was "wrong" that some judges did not observe five-year sentences, which could be an important deterrent.He said it was "wrong" that some judges did not observe five-year sentences, which could be an important deterrent.
The government said sentencing in each case was a matter for the courts.The government said sentencing in each case was a matter for the courts.
'Starting point'
A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: "The mandatory five-year sentence for possession of a firearm is a starting point.A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: "The mandatory five-year sentence for possession of a firearm is a starting point.
"Judges must then take aggravating and mitigating factors into consideration when determining the final sentence.""Judges must then take aggravating and mitigating factors into consideration when determining the final sentence."
Mr Hogan-Howe's force is currently investigating the fatal shooting of 11-year-old Rhys Jones last year.Mr Hogan-Howe's force is currently investigating the fatal shooting of 11-year-old Rhys Jones last year.
The problem is, they are happy to pass tough laws in order to get a good headline only to simply not enforce them - allowing the situation to deteriorate David DavisShadow home secretary If we can get the guns out of their hands, then we will make our society safer Bernard Hogan-Howe
Officers are understood to have held meetings with the local judiciary and members of the legal profession to discuss the effects of gun crime on the Merseyside community.Officers are understood to have held meetings with the local judiciary and members of the legal profession to discuss the effects of gun crime on the Merseyside community.
Mr Hogan-Howe said as well as the five-year minimum term for possession, he would like to see 10-year sentences for firing a weapon.Mr Hogan-Howe said as well as the five-year minimum term for possession, he would like to see 10-year sentences for firing a weapon.
He told the newspaper the "big issue" for him involved "getting guns out of society".He told the newspaper the "big issue" for him involved "getting guns out of society".
He argued there would always be gangs and criminals, but added it was the fact they carried guns which made them "truly intimidating".He argued there would always be gangs and criminals, but added it was the fact they carried guns which made them "truly intimidating".
"If we can get the guns out of their hands, then we will make our society safer," he said."If we can get the guns out of their hands, then we will make our society safer," he said.
'Excellent sentences''Excellent sentences'
He added: "The message the criminal justice system sends out about the serious consequences that flow from possessing a firearm is an important part of deterring people from carrying guns."He added: "The message the criminal justice system sends out about the serious consequences that flow from possessing a firearm is an important part of deterring people from carrying guns."
He said there had been "some excellent sentences" in gun crime cases, but sentencing needed to be more consistent.He said there had been "some excellent sentences" in gun crime cases, but sentencing needed to be more consistent.
Shadow home secretary David Davis said Labour had overseen "a four-fold increase in gun-related violence" while in government.Shadow home secretary David Davis said Labour had overseen "a four-fold increase in gun-related violence" while in government.
"The problem is, they are happy to pass tough laws in order to get a good headline only to simply not enforce them - allowing the situation to deteriorate at great risk to the public," said Mr Davis."The problem is, they are happy to pass tough laws in order to get a good headline only to simply not enforce them - allowing the situation to deteriorate at great risk to the public," said Mr Davis.
"As well as failing to enforce the law, our porous borders allow weapons to simply flow into the country while the government's failure to combat the scourge of drugs also fuels so much violent crime.""As well as failing to enforce the law, our porous borders allow weapons to simply flow into the country while the government's failure to combat the scourge of drugs also fuels so much violent crime."