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Labor accuses Malcolm Turnbull of misleading parliament – politics live Labor accuses Malcolm Turnbull of misleading parliament – politics live
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04:39
Further questions have been placed on the notice paper. I’ll be back with some thoughts on that session shortly.
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Labor’s Tony Burke, seconding the motion.
I thought they had changed prime ministers! I thought we were told that there was going to be a new respect for the intelligence of theAustralian people!
I thought people had a sense that the new prime minister would change the culture of the Liberal party, we were told that he would change the Liberal party but, no, the Liberal party has changed him, from the moment he got that job.
4.26am GMT
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A brief diversion into live cattle before back to Labor’s secret plan to drive down the price of your home. Labor’s negative gearing policy will cut the value of your home.
Malcolm Turnbull:
It will mean you can’t afford to borrow money from your home to give money to your kids so they can buy a place. It mean you can’t afford to go on a holiday when you want to start a business, and you go to the bank and you want to borrow some money to start a business, the bank will say: “Well, you better get a valuation.” And you will discover that your home has been reduced in value and it will be entirely the consequence of a deliberate, calculated act by a Labor government.
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Malcolm Turnbull:
Mr Speaker, all of – every single one of those Australians after 1st July 2017, if the honourable member becomes prime minister, will not be able to claim a net interest loss on investment made in existing property.
Now, their cunning plan, Mr Speaker, their cunning plan is to say that they can only invest in new property.
Now, we all know that the reason that housing is less affordable than it ought to be, particularly again, I have say, in my own area of Sydney, is because of lack of supply.
They are going to cut the value of your home.
Mr Speaker, that is Labor’s policy. They want to make housing more affordable by making your house worth less.
4.18am GMT
04:18
The prime minister is defending himself in this censure debate. Turnbull says negative gearing is an activity undertaken by nurses and teachers – not surgeons and finance managers. He’s face first in the stats right now.
4.15am GMT
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Shorten:
This fellow here ... he thinks the Australian dream is the ability to negatively gear your seventh house.
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Mere mortals don't understand the extent of the Wentworth genius ..Mere mortals don't understand the extent of the Wentworth genius ..
Shorten, continuing.Shorten, continuing.
Now, I feel a little bit of a pang for poor old Member for Warringah (Tony Abbott). He got undermined by Malcolm Turnbull for making captain’s calls, but as soon as Mr Turnbull is up there, the captain’s call!Now, I feel a little bit of a pang for poor old Member for Warringah (Tony Abbott). He got undermined by Malcolm Turnbull for making captain’s calls, but as soon as Mr Turnbull is up there, the captain’s call!
We know what this leader of the government said. He said there would be no changes to capital gains tax whatsoever. So today we ask him to back in his words and there are really three options the PM could have picked: tell the truth or indeed tell us what was happening with capital gains tax or he could have just said: “Everyone else is wrong.”We know what this leader of the government said. He said there would be no changes to capital gains tax whatsoever. So today we ask him to back in his words and there are really three options the PM could have picked: tell the truth or indeed tell us what was happening with capital gains tax or he could have just said: “Everyone else is wrong.”
We are lucky enough to have an infallible prime minister in this country, we are very lucky to know that we are led by the smartest man in Australia, self-declared – that even when he gets it wrong, he is still right, us mere mortals just don’t understand the extent of Wentworth genius.We are lucky enough to have an infallible prime minister in this country, we are very lucky to know that we are led by the smartest man in Australia, self-declared – that even when he gets it wrong, he is still right, us mere mortals just don’t understand the extent of Wentworth genius.
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This is the second censure order of the day against the prime minister for misleading the House.This is the second censure order of the day against the prime minister for misleading the House.
Bill Shorten:Bill Shorten:
Either this prime minister is dishonest or he is incompetent, he cannot be both. The prime minister needs to rule out increasing capital gains tax on the superannuation accounts of millions of people.Either this prime minister is dishonest or he is incompetent, he cannot be both. The prime minister needs to rule out increasing capital gains tax on the superannuation accounts of millions of people.
What is it about this prime minister that makes him so out of touch that he will defend to the last drop of Liberal blood, reducing the 50% capital gains discount to 25%, when it comes to defending the capital gains tax discount of millions of Australians and their superannuation - well, he is out of town for that.What is it about this prime minister that makes him so out of touch that he will defend to the last drop of Liberal blood, reducing the 50% capital gains discount to 25%, when it comes to defending the capital gains tax discount of millions of Australians and their superannuation - well, he is out of town for that.
The prime minister is so arrogant that he thinks he can say unsay words and make them miraculously disappear, but the problem for him is this: every journalist in the press gallery heard exactly what he said, every newspaper in Australia showed that he was ruling out tackling capital gains tax, and what does he do?The prime minister is so arrogant that he thinks he can say unsay words and make them miraculously disappear, but the problem for him is this: every journalist in the press gallery heard exactly what he said, every newspaper in Australia showed that he was ruling out tackling capital gains tax, and what does he do?
No, they are all wrong.No, they are all wrong.
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Rightio, here comes the suspension of the standing orders.Rightio, here comes the suspension of the standing orders.
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Turnbull is persisting with his argument that he was taken out of context yesterday on CGT.Turnbull is persisting with his argument that he was taken out of context yesterday on CGT.
It is perfectly obvious that - perfectly clear that I was talking about Labor’s proposal to increase capital gains tax on individuals, and it was perfectly obvious that that’s what the Member for McMahon (Chris Bowen) was talking about.It is perfectly obvious that - perfectly clear that I was talking about Labor’s proposal to increase capital gains tax on individuals, and it was perfectly obvious that that’s what the Member for McMahon (Chris Bowen) was talking about.
(Nope, nope, nope.)(Nope, nope, nope.)
Malcolm Turnbull:Malcolm Turnbull:
When you are in a tax hole, stop digging.When you are in a tax hole, stop digging.
(Quite universal, that advice, I reckon.)(Quite universal, that advice, I reckon.)
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We are proceeding.We are proceeding.
Malcolm Turnbull:Malcolm Turnbull:
I think what the opposition is doing here demeans this House. It demonstrates a desperation that really insults the intelligence of the Australian people.I think what the opposition is doing here demeans this House. It demonstrates a desperation that really insults the intelligence of the Australian people.
3.57am GMT
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Bill Shorten.
Q: Will the prime minister acknowledge that he misled the parliament?
Manager of government business Christopher Pyne has had enough.
Speaker Smith is deliberating.
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Malcolm Turnbull:
Every single home owner in every single electorate represented in this House will be poorer if the Labor party is elected to government.
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Labor, persisting on the mislead of the House.
Q: Does the prime minister stand by the following statement: “Increasing capital gains tax is no part of our thinking whatsoever?”
The prime minister is glad to have this question he says, because it gives him an opportunity to note that Labor wants house prices to come down. Massive shock. Everyone will be poorer if Labor wins the election. Lower house values, a poorer Australia, less investors, less confidence.
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Vote Labor and be poorer!
The prime minister, digging in here on negative gearing and CGT.
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After the foreign minister Julie Bishop informs the House of all the benefits associated with the China Australia free trade agreement, Bowen rolls back to CGT.
Q: Will the prime minister today rule out cutting the capital gains tax discount for millions of Australians’ superannuation accounts?
Turnbull says the government is looking at superannuation across the board.
What we are looking at is the entire superannuation system, as you would expect, in any responsible review of taxation, unlike the Labor party, we are not rushing into snap decisions, to reckless decisions which are going to undermine property prices.
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Chris Bowen is back.
Q: Prime minister, why is halving the general capital gains tax discount a terrible thing, but halving the capital gains tax discount for millions of superannuation accounts a good idea?
Malcolm Turnbull is kicking off on Labor’s CGT policy. He says Labor’s proposal amounts to a radical change that will provide an extraordinary disincentive to investment.
We are back to the very vulnerable property market.
In this very vulnerable property market where prices are forecast in some cities to decline, in others to increase by maybe 1 or 2% – that is in that moment they are proposing the biggest shock to the most important asset for all Australian families.
3.30am GMT
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The prime minister’s self described wing man, the deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce, is deep in cherries and irrigation. And dams. Damnation.
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Shadow treasurer, Chris Bowen.
Q: My question is to the treasurer and refers to his answer just then on implementing the recommendations of the Murray inquiry into financial systems. Is the treasurer aware that the Murray inquiry found in relation to negative gearing and capital gains tax discount and I quote: “Reducing these concessions would lead to a more efficient allocation of funding in the question?”
Treasurer Scott Morrison says the government has no interest in being in a race to raise taxes to fund more spending. He says Labor just wants to rip away investment opportunities from ordinary people.
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Independent Andrew Wilkie is worried about CSIRO job cuts and the recent decision to exit climate research. The innovation minister Christopher Pyne hints there are some announcements coming up in Tasmania that should please Wilkie.
Christopher Pyne:
I think there will be some announcements in the next few days specifically about the Antarctic and Ocean Division that the Member for Denison has been particularly concerned about, and I understand that the work that is being done is to ensure that the essential services provided around the measuring of temperatures will be able to be continued through the CSIRO or through any of the other national institutions that do this kind of work.