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Republican debate: Trump says military will 'do as I tell them' – live Republican debate: candidates pledge to support Trump if needed – live
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4.19am GMT
04:19
Here are the top-tweeted #GOPDebate moments, via the metrics folks at Twitter:
1. Trump defends his businesses, including Trump University.
2. Cruz tells Trump to relax, Rubio follows up with a yoga joke.
3. Trump calls Rubio “little Marco”; Chris Wallace live fact-checks Trump.
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From the comments / who won?
We haven’t had much opportunity tonight to jump into the comments. Let’s see what’s going on down there.
Trump is the GOP nominee. Frankenstein didn't like his monster very much either - too bad.
well said - Clinton, weak as she is and she must know it, has got to be thrilled with how this is working out; Kasich could actually have beaten her in the general election had the party not eaten itself
As an observer to this theatrical nonsense from the Republican Party, the only things that seem to appeal to crowd is, who is the biggest celebrity, who will give you the biggest gun, and who prays to God more than the other. America you really are in deep trouble.
The winner - Fox News gets high ratings
The Loser - The American People
Donald Trump is getting fu**ed up tonight
4.16am GMT
04:16
It’s proper to fist bump after a debate, everybody knows that.
Rubio fist bumps https://t.co/UHIG0a75Ot
Update: Rubio was hoarse. Looks like he was trying to keep his germs to himself. Stand-up guy.
Rubio, who has a cold, misses a golden opportunity to get his rivals sick too https://t.co/8SyhncVAOm
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4.09am GMT
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Rubio is taking some heat from the #nevertrump’s on the right for saying he would support Trump if Trump is the nominee.
Really disappointed in @MarcoRubio right here. #NeverTrump
This is after championing #NeverTrump, labeling him a con artist and a defender of white supremacists. https://t.co/uV2l4sdlJF
Having said that, I'm not confident Rubio will actually support Trump if he's the nominee.
Key point: these pledges mean nothing.
4.04am GMT
04:04
That’s it. There is some generally milling on the stage and oh look there’s Bill O’Reilly again.
He’s interviewing Trump. Trump says the debate was “tough but fair.” Eric Trump and Melania Trump appear silently and straight-faced behind Trump like... props?
Trump calls Romney jealous. He says he did not have the “guts to run” for president and he’s a joke artist.
More on Romney. Why do you fill them with loathing?
“I’m loved,” Trump says.
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Closing statements
Kasich: Progress in Ohio. Rehabilitated minority community. I’ll fix Washington. I’ll send you power to fix your communities. Restore America.
Rubio: Unusual election cycle huh. This is about opportunities. 21st century wow. Our children. Freedom. Prosperity. MarcoRubio.com
Cruz: I want to talk to soldier, sailor, airmen, marine, and families. Obama does not believe in you. That will end. And to the cops and firemen: I got your back.
Trump: I’ll bring jobs back. Fix military. Care for vets. “You’re going to be very very proud of this country in just a few years.”
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Concluding questionConcluding question
Last question of the night: Will you support the GOP nominee even if it’s Trump?Last question of the night: Will you support the GOP nominee even if it’s Trump?
Rubio: I’ll support the Republican nominee, even Trump, because the Democrats have two people left in the race. A socialist and a person who lies to the families of the victims of Benghazi.Rubio: I’ll support the Republican nominee, even Trump, because the Democrats have two people left in the race. A socialist and a person who lies to the families of the victims of Benghazi.
Cruz: Yes, because I gave my word that I would. I keep my word.Cruz: Yes, because I gave my word that I would. I keep my word.
Kasich: Yeah, I kinda think before it’s all said and done, I’ll be the nominee. Look, when you’re in the arena, you enter a special circle. If he ends up as the nominee. Sometimes he makes it a little bit hard but you know I’m going to support whoever is the nominee.Kasich: Yeah, I kinda think before it’s all said and done, I’ll be the nominee. Look, when you’re in the arena, you enter a special circle. If he ends up as the nominee. Sometimes he makes it a little bit hard but you know I’m going to support whoever is the nominee.
Trump is asked would he support the nominee even if it’s not him.Trump is asked would he support the nominee even if it’s not him.
Trump: Even if it’s not me? Millions of millions of people have come to the Republican party... and Democrats are losing people. I’m very proud. The answer is yes I will.Trump: Even if it’s not me? Millions of millions of people have come to the Republican party... and Democrats are losing people. I’m very proud. The answer is yes I will.
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John StoehrJohn Stoehr
Maybe there has been a gentlemen’s agreement in place during this GOP debate. Tonight, Cruz and Rubio have attacked Trump, sometime very successfully. Trump has been on the defensive most of the night.Maybe there has been a gentlemen’s agreement in place during this GOP debate. Tonight, Cruz and Rubio have attacked Trump, sometime very successfully. Trump has been on the defensive most of the night.
Meanwhile, Kasich has presented himself very well. His foreign policy answer was superlative. Could it be that Cruz and Rubio are trying to put Kasich out front? I can’t imagine a selfless Cruz, but maybe.Meanwhile, Kasich has presented himself very well. His foreign policy answer was superlative. Could it be that Cruz and Rubio are trying to put Kasich out front? I can’t imagine a selfless Cruz, but maybe.
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Last commercial break! Let’s hear it – who’s winning and who’s losing?Last commercial break! Let’s hear it – who’s winning and who’s losing?
Donald Trump (paraphrasing): "I don't get sued often."From PACER ... pic.twitter.com/mGNPOydOMFDonald Trump (paraphrasing): "I don't get sued often."From PACER ... pic.twitter.com/mGNPOydOMF
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Kasich takes a question about a commercial his campaign ran tying Trump to Putin. Do you think Trump is naive about Putin?Kasich takes a question about a commercial his campaign ran tying Trump to Putin. Do you think Trump is naive about Putin?
“I’m not biting,” Kasich says. “Let me just take you around the world,” he says. He’s cheered and applauded.“I’m not biting,” Kasich says. “Let me just take you around the world,” he says. He’s cheered and applauded.
Biggest applause line of the night may have just been John Kasich saying "I'm not biting"Biggest applause line of the night may have just been John Kasich saying "I'm not biting"
He goes around the world:He goes around the world:
Russia: attack on Eastern European Nato member states is attack on us.Russia: attack on Eastern European Nato member states is attack on us.
China: stop hacking us and pipe down in south China sea.China: stop hacking us and pipe down in south China sea.
Egypt: they are on last legs.Egypt: they are on last legs.
Jordan, Saudi, Gulf states: our allies who need support. Annnd...Jordan, Saudi, Gulf states: our allies who need support. Annnd...
“We need good human intelligence.” Ding ding ding.“We need good human intelligence.” Ding ding ding.
“Let’s call it a semi-trip around the world,” Kasich says. He has run out of time.“Let’s call it a semi-trip around the world,” Kasich says. He has run out of time.
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Jeb LundJeb Lund
Someone like Ted Cruz, who is constitutionally incapable of exhibiting any emotions other than affected unctuousness or smug paternalism, should probably avoid coming across like a father on stage.Someone like Ted Cruz, who is constitutionally incapable of exhibiting any emotions other than affected unctuousness or smug paternalism, should probably avoid coming across like a father on stage.
I mean, leave aside all the creeping discomfort of Ted Cruz reminding you of someone’s daddy; it’s just unbearably smug. Telling Donald Trump to breathe and count to 10 and behave like an adult is just such a weasel reaction.I mean, leave aside all the creeping discomfort of Ted Cruz reminding you of someone’s daddy; it’s just unbearably smug. Telling Donald Trump to breathe and count to 10 and behave like an adult is just such a weasel reaction.
For one, Cruz has been just as much of a petulant child as anyone else not named Bush, Carson or Kasich over the course of the debates. For another, it’s like trying to sneak a burn in through the backdoor of the discourse. Ted Cruz loses when he tries to attack Trump head on, so he’s going to passively attack him by portraying him as a child and showing how much wiser he is for refusing to engage. But Cruz is engaging, while trying to seem above the same inane slapfight he regularly engages.For one, Cruz has been just as much of a petulant child as anyone else not named Bush, Carson or Kasich over the course of the debates. For another, it’s like trying to sneak a burn in through the backdoor of the discourse. Ted Cruz loses when he tries to attack Trump head on, so he’s going to passively attack him by portraying him as a child and showing how much wiser he is for refusing to engage. But Cruz is engaging, while trying to seem above the same inane slapfight he regularly engages.
Once you get past the superficial shaming, he’s either a hypocrite or a wuss or, more realistically, both.Once you get past the superficial shaming, he’s either a hypocrite or a wuss or, more realistically, both.
Is this patronising "breathe, breathe" from Cruz really going to win over any Trump supporters to his side? #gopdebateIs this patronising "breathe, breathe" from Cruz really going to win over any Trump supporters to his side? #gopdebate
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Trump on military, again: 'they'll do as I tell them'Trump on military, again: 'they'll do as I tell them'
Rubio’s invited to say why he thinks Trump’s not qualified to be president.Rubio’s invited to say why he thinks Trump’s not qualified to be president.
Rubio says Trump hasn’t shown seriousness about foreign policy. Rubio cites Trump’s earlier answer about the military doing whatever he says even if it’s extra-legal. “That’s just not true,” Rubio says.Rubio says Trump hasn’t shown seriousness about foreign policy. Rubio cites Trump’s earlier answer about the military doing whatever he says even if it’s extra-legal. “That’s just not true,” Rubio says.
Trump has not shown “the intellectual curiosity or the interest in learning about these complicated issues,” Rubio says.Trump has not shown “the intellectual curiosity or the interest in learning about these complicated issues,” Rubio says.
Trump’s reply: “I’ve gotten to know Marco. Believe me, he is not a leader.”Trump’s reply: “I’ve gotten to know Marco. Believe me, he is not a leader.”
“Frankly, when I say they’ll do as I tell them, they’ll do as I tell them.”“Frankly, when I say they’ll do as I tell them, they’ll do as I tell them.”
Rubio says Trump once again was pressed on a policy issue and could only attack someone by name. Then he lists pressure from North Korea, China, Russia, Iran and radical jihadists.Rubio says Trump once again was pressed on a policy issue and could only attack someone by name. Then he lists pressure from North Korea, China, Russia, Iran and radical jihadists.
“You have yet to answer a serious question about any of this,” Rubio says.“You have yet to answer a serious question about any of this,” Rubio says.
“Putin said very nice things about me,” Trump says. Then he says he had said, “Wouldn’t it be nice if we got along with the world and maybe Russia could help us?”“Putin said very nice things about me,” Trump says. Then he says he had said, “Wouldn’t it be nice if we got along with the world and maybe Russia could help us?”
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Here is Trump on targetting terrorists’ families:Here is Trump on targetting terrorists’ families:
And here’s the second 15 minutes of the debate:And here’s the second 15 minutes of the debate:
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Mona ChalabiMona Chalabi
As the candidates discussed gun control, they began to get more detail focused. Donald Trump has said that he does not support the ban on assault weapons.As the candidates discussed gun control, they began to get more detail focused. Donald Trump has said that he does not support the ban on assault weapons.
In December, we investigated the 20 shootings with the most fatalities in 2015 and found that most gunmen obtain their weapons legally. More specifically, we found that in three of those shootings, assault weapons had been used.In December, we investigated the 20 shootings with the most fatalities in 2015 and found that most gunmen obtain their weapons legally. More specifically, we found that in three of those shootings, assault weapons had been used.
3.43am GMT
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Oh come now. This is a bit histrionic. Right?
My party is committing suicide on national television. #GOPDebate
3.41am GMT
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Cruz: 'I really hope we don’t see yoga on this stage'
Cruz hits Trump on guns, guns, guns for everyone, and Trump gets peppy and tries to interrupt.
“Breathe, breathe, breathe, you can do it. I know it’s hard,” Cruz says.
Rubio: “When they’re done with yoga, can I [say something]?”
Cruz: “I really hope we don’t see yoga on this stage.”
“Well he’s very flexible,” Rubio says, pointing to Trump.
Good one! Joke of the night!
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Trump admits reversal on assault weapons ban
Q for Rubio: late justice Scalia said the second amendment was not limitless – so, what limits would draw around the second amendment?
As few as possible, Rubio says. He slips in that he personally owns a gun. “Gun laws are not effective,” he says. “We will protect the second amendment.”
Trump agrees: “I’m a big defender of the second amendment.” Then he says “many people will be dying in addition” from the 13 November Paris attacks. Four months later?
Trump is pushed on past support for an assault weapons ban: “I don’t support it any more. I do not support the ban on assault.”
3.37am GMT
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This was Cruz’s attack on Donald Trump over his hiring practices earlier:
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Social issues. Kasich is asked about saying that a cupcake maker should probably have to sell cupcakes for a same-sex marriage ceremony even if the maker objects.
Now Kasich: “If they ask you to participate in something you really don’t like, that’s another issue.”
Kasich says he does not agree with Supreme Court protections for same-sex marriage. “I believe in traditional marriage, between man and a woman.”
Then he says something about everybody respecting one another’s differences and loving one another. As long as they’re not same-sex married?
Q for Cruz: Can a gay couple adopt? Cruz says leave it to the states. Adoption and marriage should be up to the states. He attacks the Supreme court protection of same-sex marriage.
“I generally speaking agree with what he said,” Trump says. He seems subdued, not having spoken much in the last ten minutes.
3.32am GMT
03:32
Jeb Lund
A substantial portion of the CPAC audience missed the last segment of the GOP debate due to the emcees announcing last call over the PA.
I met a cheerful Trump voter in line, a young man perhaps a biscuit over 21, wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat backward. He said that people have been giving him a “right on” quite sincerely all day.
The room let out a huge “whoooooaaaaaaa” when Cruz shut down Trump with his “count to 10” line. Things are getting louder.
Booze is flowing, there’s quite a bit of yelling. This is basically a Springer audience at this point. It might be for the best that the alcohol has been cut off: many of these people certainly look, smell and totter like they pre-gamed at one of the many nearby surrounding restaurants.
There could have been a spontaneous white gang rumble otherwise. Lots of snapping and moving in lines down the aisles, menacingly. All it needs is a spark.
I’m considering throwing a can into the crowd and shouting a candidate’s name to see if it sets something off. If something happens, know we all had it coming.
3.29am GMT
03:29
Question about the collapse of manufacturing in Detroit, for Cruz. What would you do to bring manufacturing jobs back to America and train people to do the jobs?
Cruz says “Detroit is a great city with a magnificent legacy that has been utterly decimated by 60 years of left-wing policy.”
He goes back to Henry Ford and WWII.
“And then for 50 years, left-wing Democrats have pursued destructive tax policies, weak crime policies, and have driven the residents out.”
It’s all the left’s fault. No such thing as an international market for cars.
Cruz says he would lift regulations: Obamacare, the EPA and other regulators. And his VAT tax plan is a manufacturing magnet, he says.
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3.27am GMT
03:27
Kasich is asked about Detroit schools, which are in debt and could go bankrupt. Should the government bail out the schools.
Kasich compares the situation to Cleveland, where “schools are coming back because of a major overhaul.”
“Fixing schools rests at the state and local level and particularly at the school board level.”
He could talk forever about this. He’s on to vocational education and vouchers. “We as adults have to fight in our neighborhoods and our communities for our children and their educations.”
“The people of this town are gonna rise and they need to be involved.” Cheers in the hall.
3.24am GMT
03:24
They’re back. It’s a question about government neglect and poisonous water in Flint, Michigan, not far from the debate tonight.
Rubio is asked about infrastructure improvement. What can be done?
“What happened in Flint was a terrible thing. It was a systemic breakdown at every level of government.”
Rubio is applauded for saying “the politicizing of it is unfair.” “This should not be a partisan issue... all of us are outraged. .. It is a proper role for the federal government to play at the local level.”
3.24am GMT
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Here is Trump talking about the “off the record” immigration comments:
And this one’s the first 15 minutes:
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