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Bernie Sanders: 'Momentum is with us' following big wins – campaign live Trump denies role in Cruz tabloid story, blames rival – campaign live
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Bernie Sanders appears next on the ABC show, for a brief Q&A.
“We’ve cut Secretary Clinton’s lead by a third,” the senator says. “Clearly we have the momentum. And I think at the end of the day we’re going to have more pledged delegates.”
“And then I think the superdelegates are going to have to make a very difficult decision.”
He says they’ll have to decide whether to vote with their state or not, and about whether he or Hillary Clinton has a better chance to beat Donald Trump in the general election.
“We think we have a real shot in New York,” he says, in addition to Wisconsin and California.
“I will not deny for one second that we still remain the underdogs, but we have come a long, long way.”
He says there are clear differences between him and Clinton: her backing from Wall Street sources and large corporations, her support for (regulated) fracking, her vote for the Iraq war and inclination toward military intervention, etc.
Karl asks whether Sanders would consider Clinton as a running-mate. The senator says he’s not thinking about that kind of thing right now.
And finally Karl asks about the war against Isis in Syria and Iraq.
“Of course I am opposed to the United States getting involved in perpetual warfare,” Sanders says, adding that he supports President Obama’s policies. Muslim forces have to do most of the work, he says.
“The United States should have special forces there, we should have air support and air attacks, and we should be training the troops.”
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Finally, Karl asks Trump about the convention and Republican rules should no candidate manage to secure the nomination on the first ballot among delegates. The attending delegates will have authority to write the rules to this year’s convention.
“The tabulation system is a broken system. It’s not fair,” Trump says. “What’s going on in the Republican Party is a disgrace.”
He alludes to a Wall Street Journal report about how Ted Cruz’s campaign is out-maneuvering Trump in internal contests to choose delegates for these rule-writing committees.
“I won Louisiana and now I hear [Cruz’s] trying to steal delegates. You know, welcome to, uh, the Republican Party,” Trump says. “I won Louisiana and now I hear he’s trying to steal delegates.”
“I have so many more votes and so many more delegates. And, frankly, whoever at the end, whoever has the most votes and the most delegates should be the nominee.”
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The ABC host now shifts away from his first questions, on tabloids and Twitter, to questions about terrorism and the role of Nato in global security.
“I don’t think America’s a safe place for Americans, you want to know the truth,” Trump says. “I don’t think Europe is a safe place.”
“Lots of the free world has become weak,” he continues. “We’re going to have problems, just as big or bigger.”
Then he elaborates a bit on his idea that the alliance that defined the second half of the 20th century, Nato, needs an overhaul.
“I think Nato is obsolete,” Trump says. “I’m not saying Russia is not a threat but we have other threats, and Nato doesn’t discuss terrorism.”
“We pay, number one, a totally disproportionate share of Nato,” Trump continues, before rambling about how “we’re the ones always fighting on the Ukraine”.
There are no American soldiers fighting in Ukraine, where pro-Russia militants have been waging war with government forces for more than a year, and where hundreds of people have died.
“How come the countries near the Ukraine,” Trump asks, “how come they’re not at least protesting?”
Baltic states, including Nato allies, have repeatedly asked for help, and Germany has played a key role in negotiations between the Kremlin, Kiev, and rebels. But “I don’t hear from the other countries,” Trump avers. “I don’t hear from Germany.”
Related: Life after Ukraine: the ‘invisible’ Russian fighters struggling to return to normal
Trump wants Nato “readjusted to take care of terrorism or we’re going to have to set up a new coalition” because “terrorism is out of control.”
Karl asks Trump whether he would rule out interment camps for Muslim Americans, in addition to his proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States.
“I would rule it out, but we’re going to have to be very smart, very vigilant,” Trump says. “Muslims in our country have to report bad acts.”
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Karl asks whether Republican delegates should be allowed to carry guns into the party convention this summer in July, as more than 24,000 people have asked.
Trump pleads ignorance, as he did when asked to condemn white supremacist groups a few weeks ago.
“I haven’t seen the petition at all,” he says, “I’ll certainly take a look at it.
“I’m a very, very strong person for second amendment.”
Trump has declared himself an enemy of gun-free zones, like the arena where the convention will be held, and like the venues of Republican debates and several of his own golf courses and hotel properties.
Related: Petition to allow guns at Republican convention earns 24,000 signatures
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So what were you talking about when you threatened to “spill the beans” on Ted Cruz’s wife, the ABC host asks Trump.
“There are things about Heidi that I don’t want to talk about,” he says. “You could look.”
Karl then asks Trump about Twitter and tasteless retweets. “It’s a new way of communicating, it’s very effective,” Trump says.
“I have 15 or 16 million followers,” between Twitter and Facebook and Instagram, he claims. “Other people don’t like it because they have 15 followers.
“I’m not going to be doing it very much as president. I will act in the best interests of our country,” he adds though, “whether that’s counterpunching or not.”
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Republican frontrunner Donald Trump is up on on ABC’s This Week, with Jonathan Karl. The host asks the businessman about the feud with Ted Cruz over their wives and a tabloid story that accuses Cruz of having extramarital affairs.
Cruz says Trump fabricated the story.
“I had nothing to do with it,” Trump says. “The campaign had absolutely nothing to do with it.”
“He’s got a problem with The National Enquirer. I have no control over The National Enquirer. I didn’t even know about the story. I just got it last night. Somebody sent it to me over to read, so I could at least see what it said.”
“I had nothing to do whatsoever with the National Enquirer.”
For him to try and say it,” he adds, is “disgraceful”.
“By the way he’s the one who started it,” Trump says. “Melania did a covershoot for GQ, a very strong modeling picture, no big deal … it was fine, and from what I hear somebody bought the rights to it … and just so you understand, that Super Pac is very friendly to Ted Cruz.”
“He know all about it, 100%,” he concludes, a casual accusation that Cruz violated federal law by coordinating with a Super Pac. “He’s very close to the Super Pac.”
“There’s no way in a million years that Super Pac did that without his absolute knowledge.”
ABC: Do you condemn this story?
Trump: “I don’t care. I’m really, I don’t care. The National Enquirer did a story. It was their story. It wasn’t my story. It was about Ted Cruz. I have no idea whether it was right or not. They actually have a very good record of being right. But I have absolutely no idea.”
“Frankly, I said, I hope it’s not right.”
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Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, chair of the Homeland Security committee, is next up on the CNN program. Tapper asks him about whether US intelligence is concerned about terror attacks in the United States.Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, chair of the Homeland Security committee, is next up on the CNN program. Tapper asks him about whether US intelligence is concerned about terror attacks in the United States.
“We’re being told there are no credible threats,” Johnson says, though he adds it would “make sense that there are more plots being hatched in Europe”.“We’re being told there are no credible threats,” Johnson says, though he adds it would “make sense that there are more plots being hatched in Europe”.
Johnson, a Republican, quickly criticizes President Barack Obama for having “not shown the leadership” necessary.Johnson, a Republican, quickly criticizes President Barack Obama for having “not shown the leadership” necessary.
Then he says the United States needs to assemble a “coalition of the willing” – this is what the Bush administration called the group of nations that joined the US invasion of Iraq, a far smaller group than the Nato alliance that went to war in Afghanistan after the September 11 2001 attacks.Then he says the United States needs to assemble a “coalition of the willing” – this is what the Bush administration called the group of nations that joined the US invasion of Iraq, a far smaller group than the Nato alliance that went to war in Afghanistan after the September 11 2001 attacks.
“President Obama took off the table,” Johnson says, “the very ingredient that’s going to be necessary, and that is American troops on the ground.”“President Obama took off the table,” Johnson says, “the very ingredient that’s going to be necessary, and that is American troops on the ground.”
Americans overwhelmingly do not want to send ground forces into Syria, research shows, and a majority believe the Iraq war was a mistake. Last year Obama sent special forces soldiers into Syria and Iraq, although American forces withdrew formally from Iraq in 2011. An American marine died in an Isis attack on a base near Mosul last week.Americans overwhelmingly do not want to send ground forces into Syria, research shows, and a majority believe the Iraq war was a mistake. Last year Obama sent special forces soldiers into Syria and Iraq, although American forces withdrew formally from Iraq in 2011. An American marine died in an Isis attack on a base near Mosul last week.
“I don’t think we need to have that many of them,” Johnson says. “We have to assemble the leadership.”“I don’t think we need to have that many of them,” Johnson says. “We have to assemble the leadership.”
Johnson says the “historic blunder of President Obama was leaving Iraq” and that “we have to learn the lessons of history”.Johnson says the “historic blunder of President Obama was leaving Iraq” and that “we have to learn the lessons of history”.
“We are not taking this threat seriously enough, and it is highly concerning.”“We are not taking this threat seriously enough, and it is highly concerning.”
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Sanders: 'big money' for Clinton is 'obscene'Sanders: 'big money' for Clinton is 'obscene'
Finally Tapper asks Sanders about an event hosted by the actor George Clooney in support of Clinton – costing thousands of dollars per plate.Finally Tapper asks Sanders about an event hosted by the actor George Clooney in support of Clinton – costing thousands of dollars per plate.
Sanders’ campaign manager called the price tag “obscene” earlier this week.Sanders’ campaign manager called the price tag “obscene” earlier this week.
“It is obscene that Secretary Clinton keeps going to big money people to fund her campaign, and it’s not just this Clooney event,” Sanders tells CNN. He says she also relies on Super Pacs, Wall Street and big drug companies.“It is obscene that Secretary Clinton keeps going to big money people to fund her campaign, and it’s not just this Clooney event,” Sanders tells CNN. He says she also relies on Super Pacs, Wall Street and big drug companies.
“We have on the other hand received six million individual campaign contributions, averaging $27 a piece.”“We have on the other hand received six million individual campaign contributions, averaging $27 a piece.”
“I have a lot of respect for George Clooney, he’s a great actor, I like him,” Sanders continues, clarifying that he’s making “a criticism of a corrupt campaign finance system.”“I have a lot of respect for George Clooney, he’s a great actor, I like him,” Sanders continues, clarifying that he’s making “a criticism of a corrupt campaign finance system.”
“It’s not Clooney it’s the people who are coming to this event have undue influence over the political process.”“It’s not Clooney it’s the people who are coming to this event have undue influence over the political process.”
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Tapper asks Sanders about how he would confront Isis, and how he would improve security to prevent the kinds of terror attacks like those the world saw in Belgium last week.Tapper asks Sanders about how he would confront Isis, and how he would improve security to prevent the kinds of terror attacks like those the world saw in Belgium last week.
“In fairness to the president,” Sanders says, “his job is twofold. Number one to destroy Isis, and let’s be clear we are making, on the military field, real progress.”“In fairness to the president,” Sanders says, “his job is twofold. Number one to destroy Isis, and let’s be clear we are making, on the military field, real progress.”
“They are retreating, they have, I think, 30-40% of the territory [in Iraq and Syria]. But what the president is also trying to do is make sure the Untied States [and its soldiers] do not get sucked into perpetual warfare in the Middle East.”“They are retreating, they have, I think, 30-40% of the territory [in Iraq and Syria]. But what the president is also trying to do is make sure the Untied States [and its soldiers] do not get sucked into perpetual warfare in the Middle East.”
What about actual improvements to intelligence – Clinton has for instance called for beefed up surveillance…?What about actual improvements to intelligence – Clinton has for instance called for beefed up surveillance…?
Sanders gives a vague answer, saying he supports “better intelligence sharing”, including internationally and more attention to social media. But he adds that when “somebody is willing to kill himself” with a suicide bombing, “this is not so easy to contain”.Sanders gives a vague answer, saying he supports “better intelligence sharing”, including internationally and more attention to social media. But he adds that when “somebody is willing to kill himself” with a suicide bombing, “this is not so easy to contain”.
Nonetheless, he says, “when you have attacks that take place, when you have 30 people” killed, “something went wrong”.Nonetheless, he says, “when you have attacks that take place, when you have 30 people” killed, “something went wrong”.
“This is not a criticism of the intelligence agencies but we have to improve our efforts.”“This is not a criticism of the intelligence agencies but we have to improve our efforts.”
“Obviously we want to prevent those attacks before they take place,” Sanders says. “We know those people who are planning attacks against our European allies and we have got to do everything we can to destroy them.”“Obviously we want to prevent those attacks before they take place,” Sanders says. “We know those people who are planning attacks against our European allies and we have got to do everything we can to destroy them.”
He paraphrases remarks of the King Abdullah II of Jordan: “The fight going on there is a fight for the soul of Islam.He paraphrases remarks of the King Abdullah II of Jordan: “The fight going on there is a fight for the soul of Islam.
“And at the end of the day it will be Muslim troops on the ground … that will destroy Isis … I will do everything that I can to keep the United States from getting sucked into perpetual warfare in the Middle East.”“And at the end of the day it will be Muslim troops on the ground … that will destroy Isis … I will do everything that I can to keep the United States from getting sucked into perpetual warfare in the Middle East.”
This reluctance and caution about intervention, he says, is “one of the big differences between Secretary Clinton and myself”.This reluctance and caution about intervention, he says, is “one of the big differences between Secretary Clinton and myself”.
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First up this Sunday morning is Senator Bernie Sanders on CNN’s State of the Union, with host Jake Tapper.First up this Sunday morning is Senator Bernie Sanders on CNN’s State of the Union, with host Jake Tapper.
He notes that Clinton has narrowed the gap in pledged delegates to within 250. Then he asks Sanders’ whether white voters are critical to victory in the Democratci race.He notes that Clinton has narrowed the gap in pledged delegates to within 250. Then he asks Sanders’ whether white voters are critical to victory in the Democratci race.
“I think every vote is pivotal, we are now winning state after state with the Latino vote,” he says. “We’re doing extraordinarily well with young people, and we do think we have a path toward victory.”“I think every vote is pivotal, we are now winning state after state with the Latino vote,” he says. “We’re doing extraordinarily well with young people, and we do think we have a path toward victory.”
He says that things get easier as primary season moves forward. “The south is the most conservative part of America. We did not do well there,” he admits. “We’re out of the south, we’re heading to the west coast, the most progressive part of America.”He says that things get easier as primary season moves forward. “The south is the most conservative part of America. We did not do well there,” he admits. “We’re out of the south, we’re heading to the west coast, the most progressive part of America.”
“A lot of superdelegates have pledged to secretary Clinton,” he says, but then argues “in poll after poll are beating Donald Trump by much larger margins.“A lot of superdelegates have pledged to secretary Clinton,” he says, but then argues “in poll after poll are beating Donald Trump by much larger margins.
Sanders argues “the momentum is with us, a lot of these superdelegates may he rethinking their decision, a lot of them have not declared”.Sanders argues “the momentum is with us, a lot of these superdelegates may he rethinking their decision, a lot of them have not declared”.
“I think their own constituents are going to say to them, ‘why don’t you support the decision of our state and support Senator Sanders?”’“I think their own constituents are going to say to them, ‘why don’t you support the decision of our state and support Senator Sanders?”’
Tapper: will you support Clinton if she doesn’t get behind a singlepayer healthcare system?Tapper: will you support Clinton if she doesn’t get behind a singlepayer healthcare system?
Sanders: “I don’t think we have ever framed things in that sense. First of all I don’t want to talk about what happens if we lose. We are in this to win.”Sanders: “I don’t think we have ever framed things in that sense. First of all I don’t want to talk about what happens if we lose. We are in this to win.”
He continues: “We’re talking about real issues impacting the American people. Why is the middle class disappearing? Why is it that we have massive wealth inequality?”He continues: “We’re talking about real issues impacting the American people. Why is the middle class disappearing? Why is it that we have massive wealth inequality?”
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Sanders celebrates and Trump talks policySanders celebrates and Trump talks policy
Hello and welcome to our live coverage of the day after Bernie Sanders’ sweep through three western states, where he defeated Hillary Clinton by huge margins and cut into her delegate lead for the Democratic nomination for president.Hello and welcome to our live coverage of the day after Bernie Sanders’ sweep through three western states, where he defeated Hillary Clinton by huge margins and cut into her delegate lead for the Democratic nomination for president.
The senator from Vermont hit the trail in Wisconsin, the next state to vote, with an optimism about his chances to defeat the former secretary of state.The senator from Vermont hit the trail in Wisconsin, the next state to vote, with an optimism about his chances to defeat the former secretary of state.
“Don’t let anybody tell you we can’t win the nomination,” Sanders told supporters in Madison. “We have a path toward victory.”“Don’t let anybody tell you we can’t win the nomination,” Sanders told supporters in Madison. “We have a path toward victory.”
He faces a difficult road. Although Wisconsin’s working class and white voters may find a lot to like in Sanders – possibly enough to hand him an upset win akin to his victory in Michigan – the election schedule soon swings to the north-east, where Clinton has advantages in more diverse electorates and “closed” primary elections.He faces a difficult road. Although Wisconsin’s working class and white voters may find a lot to like in Sanders – possibly enough to hand him an upset win akin to his victory in Michigan – the election schedule soon swings to the north-east, where Clinton has advantages in more diverse electorates and “closed” primary elections.
And the Republican candidates are still squabbling over each others’ personal lives while reporters struggle to get them to talk about substance.And the Republican candidates are still squabbling over each others’ personal lives while reporters struggle to get them to talk about substance.
We’ll hear what they all have to say this morning about the race, each other and possibly the actual issues facing the US and the world. And in Mexico, some folks set fire to an effigy of Trump in a shower of fireworks and sparks. The head blew up.We’ll hear what they all have to say this morning about the race, each other and possibly the actual issues facing the US and the world. And in Mexico, some folks set fire to an effigy of Trump in a shower of fireworks and sparks. The head blew up.
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