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Trump train stops in New York as Bernie attracts 6,000 in Albany – campaign live Trump train stops in New York as Bernie attracts 6,000 in Albany – campaign live
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Sanders fires back at Clinton's gun claims
Lauren Gambino
As well as covering the Bernie Sanders Buffalo rally live this evening, The Guardian’s Lauren Gambino just filed this report...
Bernie Sanders campaign fired back at Hillary Clinton for suggesting that the guns used to commit crimes in New York flow from the senator’s Vermont.
In an emailed statement, subject line: “Clinton misfires,” Sanders’ spokesman Michael Briggs deferred to remarks from the state’s governor, who has endorsed Clinton for president.
“I don’t know why Secretary Clinton would be so critical of the governor of Vermont who strongly supports her candidacy,” Briggs said. “What Gov [Peter] Shumlin recently said is true: ‘It is campaign season, therefore, things are sometimes said by all the candidates that sometimes aren’t entirely accurate. I would just say this, I think you’d have a hard time convincing Vermonters that New York’s crime problems are coming from Vermont.’”
During a panel on gun violence prevention on Monday, Clinton said: “Most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in New York come from out of state. And the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York” is Vermont.”
Clinton has long hammered Sanders for his record on guns, one of the only issues she has been able to position herself to the left of the progressive senator. This however was the first time she has used this line of attack tying Sander’s hunter-friendly home state to gun violence in New York.
Clinton’s statistics come from a 2013 Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives (ATF) report, that found the state of Vermont had the highest per-capita source of guns recovered in other states, in large part due to its small population and lax gun laws.
And according to a 2014 ATF report, 55 guns found in New York to Vermont, less than 1% of the roughly 7,686 that were recovered, (though only 4,585 of those guns were traceable to a state). By comparison, 395 were traced to Virginia.
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More from The Guardian’s Lauren Gambino, in Buffalo tonight for Bernie Sanders’ rally.
Larry Cohen of the Bernie campaign just told the crowd that @BernieSanders is delayed bc he's outside with the 5K ppl who couldn't get in
Loudest cheer yet followed by prolonged pounding on bleachers: "What women are telling me, they want the whole damn dollah!" #equalpay
.@BernieSanders gets cheered when he says he grew up poor in Brooklyn, NY
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John Kasich’s daughters record a little video teaser for their interview on CNN with their Ohio Governor father tonight at 9pm ET.
The governor's daughters get ready to head to the studio after a New York dinner! Tune in to CNN at 9pm EST! pic.twitter.com/0D9F3APB6X
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Phyllis Schafly may be forced out of Eagle Forum for Trump support
Ben Jacobs
Conservative icon Phyllis Schafly may be ousted from the Eagle Forum, the right wing group she founded in 1972, over her support for Donald Trump.
Six of the group’s board members, including Schafly’s daughter, reportedly held a conference call on Monday afternoon to discuss how to force the nonagenarian out of her position as president of the group.
In a statement posted on Facebook, Schafly wrote:
At 2:00 pm today, 6 directors of Eagle Forum met in an improper, unprecedented telephone meeting. I objected to the meeting and at 2:11pm, I was muted from the call. The meeting was invalid under the Bylaws but the attendees purported to pass several motions to wrest control of the organization from me. They are attempting to seize access to our bank accounts, to terminate employees, and to install members of their own Gang of 6 to control the bank accounts and all of Eagle Forum . . . This kind of conduct will not stand and I will fight for Eagle Forum and I ask all men and women of good will to join me in this fight.
Schafly had earlier called on the six in question to resign as their push distracts important issues “from opposing abortion to defeating Common Core” while warning that “the Chinese Communists are on the move as Europe falters under its misguided policies of trade and immigration.”
The conservative icon gained fame for her successful effort in the 1970s preventing the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) from being ratified. The proposed constitutional amendment which stated “equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex” fell just short of the approval from 37 state legislatures it needed to become part of the Constitution.
Schafly became a national figure opposing it because it meant women would have to fight in the armed forces and her fear that it would disadvantage housewives.
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Another protester - this time a young black woman - gets shouted at by the crowd to leave.
“I love you Albany,” Trump declares, before walking off stage to the beats of the Space Jam theme song, with its lyrics: “Y’all ready for this.”
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“Is there anybody in this room who is going to vote for someone other than Donald Trump?” he asks.
He gets the crowd to do “the pledge”, where they raise their hands and promise to vote for Donald J Trump at the upcoming primary.
“Don’t raise it too high!” he warns, “then they say it’s about something else” (usually the media point out that it looks very similar to a Nazi heil Hitler salute...)
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Here’s one of the protesters getting removed from the Trump rally this evening.Here’s one of the protesters getting removed from the Trump rally this evening.
Protester wearing a "Bernie Fucking Sanders" tshirt removed by Trump private security at the Albany Trump rally: pic.twitter.com/682MT15JvYProtester wearing a "Bernie Fucking Sanders" tshirt removed by Trump private security at the Albany Trump rally: pic.twitter.com/682MT15JvY
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“I get almost unanimous veteran support,” said Trump, as he runs through talking points of his stump speech.“I get almost unanimous veteran support,” said Trump, as he runs through talking points of his stump speech.
“You’re going to be proud of that border, and be proud of the wall... Maybe it’ll be named the Trump Wall. We’re going to take care of education, we’re going to get rid of Common Core.”“You’re going to be proud of that border, and be proud of the wall... Maybe it’ll be named the Trump Wall. We’re going to take care of education, we’re going to get rid of Common Core.”
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Donald Trump has arrived to the Albany rally, speaks about how great New York is. "Nobody has values like us." pic.twitter.com/EtotGmu9dJDonald Trump has arrived to the Albany rally, speaks about how great New York is. "Nobody has values like us." pic.twitter.com/EtotGmu9dJ
Over 10,000 at Times Union Center for Trump rally in Albany pic.twitter.com/g4AnYkdNRiOver 10,000 at Times Union Center for Trump rally in Albany pic.twitter.com/g4AnYkdNRi
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Another protester just appeared in the crowd - this one removed by security guards directly in front of the press pen.Another protester just appeared in the crowd - this one removed by security guards directly in front of the press pen.
“He stands there smiling because he knows he’s protected. Don’t touch him,” said Trump.“He stands there smiling because he knows he’s protected. Don’t touch him,” said Trump.
“They stand there and they taunt us all. The dishonest media will say Trump was very very tough and raised his voice,” said Trump.“They stand there and they taunt us all. The dishonest media will say Trump was very very tough and raised his voice,” said Trump.
The protester, a youngish white guy wearing a Bernie Sanders t-shirt, was by himself.The protester, a youngish white guy wearing a Bernie Sanders t-shirt, was by himself.
I recorded some video, will try and post.I recorded some video, will try and post.
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“We owe $19 trillion. It’s going up to $21 trillion because of the horrible, horrible budget that three months ago the Republicans approved. We funded in that budget Obamacare. We funded in that budget people coming in from Syria… we funded in that budget all sorts of things, including people coming into our country illegally. Did you know we take care of illegal immigrants in some cases better than we take care of our veterans?” said Trump.“We owe $19 trillion. It’s going up to $21 trillion because of the horrible, horrible budget that three months ago the Republicans approved. We funded in that budget Obamacare. We funded in that budget people coming in from Syria… we funded in that budget all sorts of things, including people coming into our country illegally. Did you know we take care of illegal immigrants in some cases better than we take care of our veterans?” said Trump.
Trump jumps all over the place when he gives a speech - from ISIS to healthcare to NY elections.Trump jumps all over the place when he gives a speech - from ISIS to healthcare to NY elections.
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Before Trump appeared on stage, an announcement was made that if any protesters appeared, that Trump supporters shouldn’t touch them but they should hold their posters up and chant “Trump” to alert authorities (a confusing security technique).Before Trump appeared on stage, an announcement was made that if any protesters appeared, that Trump supporters shouldn’t touch them but they should hold their posters up and chant “Trump” to alert authorities (a confusing security technique).
Well, a protester appeared and Trump yelled “Get ‘em out!” to loud cheers.Well, a protester appeared and Trump yelled “Get ‘em out!” to loud cheers.
The Guardian can’t see the protester and is trapped in the press pen. Trump then said “Don’t hurt her, don’t hurt her,” before adding - about the presence of protesters - “but it does make it exciting, right?”.The Guardian can’t see the protester and is trapped in the press pen. Trump then said “Don’t hurt her, don’t hurt her,” before adding - about the presence of protesters - “but it does make it exciting, right?”.
He questioned if protesters were paid, said he suspected they were.He questioned if protesters were paid, said he suspected they were.
Five minutes later, more appear. “The only way the cameras show how many people are at a place like that is when they show a protester... otherwise these crooked people, they never show how many people are in the area,” said Trump.Five minutes later, more appear. “The only way the cameras show how many people are at a place like that is when they show a protester... otherwise these crooked people, they never show how many people are in the area,” said Trump.
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There’s around 10,000 people here tonight at Trump’s Albany rally in the Times Union Center. Not many empty seats at all. Stadium full and the crowd standing on the floor.There’s around 10,000 people here tonight at Trump’s Albany rally in the Times Union Center. Not many empty seats at all. Stadium full and the crowd standing on the floor.
Now he talks about his fellow candidates.Now he talks about his fellow candidates.
“Talk about liars? I think Hillary might be worse than Ted! I am no fan of Bernie Sanders, I can tell you that. Although we can agree on one thing: trade. The difference is, I can do something about it,” said Trump.“Talk about liars? I think Hillary might be worse than Ted! I am no fan of Bernie Sanders, I can tell you that. Although we can agree on one thing: trade. The difference is, I can do something about it,” said Trump.
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“So here’s the problem. We’re millions of votes ahead of Cruz. Millions. You don’t hear that. These dishonest people up here, don’t tell you,” said Trump, pointing to the cameras and media crew in front of him.
Crowd is now booing the media.
“They’re terrible. I just watched a report from CNN, it was so dishonest,” said Trump.
“Fuck you CNN,” yells a guy holding a Trump sign.
“The media itself is so dishonest... I’m hundreds of delegates ahead. But the system is rigged.... it’s a dirty system. Only a non-politician will say it.”
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And Donald Trump appears on stage to the beats of the Space Jam themesong, Get Ready for This by 2 Unlimited.
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The national anthem is now being sung, by the same singer who led the crowd with God Bless America.
She is a little wobbly on the high notes but the crowd appreciates the effort.
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Carl Paladino, a local Trump-like figure, spoke for about 20 minutes, getting large cheers.
“Most of the people in the room have never been part of a revolution. But this is how it begins,” said Paladino, noting that yesterday he was in Rochester and that the people there were the same as the people here.
“This political correctness. God forbid if you say Merry Christmas,” he said, noting that the president bans it being said (not a presidential executive order I’m currently aware of).
Paladino speaks out against the press, saying they think they’re better than everyday people.
“Screw the press!” yelled out a young guy in a Make America Great Again cap at Trump’s Albany rally, who laughed good-naturedly when I turned around to look at him.
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The Guardian’s Lauren Gambino is in Buffalo, New York for a Bernie Sanders rally this evening. She’ll be filing later, but here’s some live updates.
Massive line snaking all the way around the building for the @BernieSanders rally at University at Buffalo ! (Dad's old stomping grounds!)
With 6,000+ seats, Alumni Stadium is at capacity and many more people are huddled outside in the rain to watch the broadcast on screens
On sale at the Buffalo rally: beer of the 99% pic.twitter.com/BVh2Kk5zpt
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Here’s a look at protesters outside the Trump rally in Albany.
There are roughly 100 anti-Trump demonstrators outside his Albany rally. Cops erected 20ft buffer bw them. pic.twitter.com/jJaJr0QUjt
That’s at least three times the size of the demonstrator crowd when I came inside the rally about two hours ago.
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“OK question: are we going to build a wall?” said Carl Paladino, to cheers of “yes.”
“Are we going to make the Mexicans pay for it?” asked Paladino.
The crowd cheers yes.
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The crowd is now chanting “build that wall” while Carl Paladino is trying to encourage an “Ava” chant, which is the name of a small girl.
Now there’s an “Ava’s mom” chant happening, for her mother, Jennifer Oberting, known as Jennifer C from The Apprentice Season Two.
Oberting is now talking about how she only heard from the campaign last night that she would appear.
“It’s very overwhelming,” she said. “[But] when I look around the room, I see friendly faces.”
“Trump fired me 10 years ago. He had to do his job,” said Oberting. She said her 15 minutes of fame lasts longer because of her association with the billionaire.
“When the name Donald Trump is attached to your 15 minutes, it never really dies. It follows you,” she said.
“There are two Donald Trumps - and maybe a few more,” she said.
“He’s going to fill the room. You’re going to get exactly what you wanted when you. He commands the room. He is the commander-and-chief, with all due respect.”
“It’s time we had a commander-and-chief, and that’s the first Donald I experienced,” she said. She says the second Trump is a “funny” guy - he tells “some dirty jokes, some funny jokes,” recalling a photoshoot in Vogue they did together where he made a joke about her hair.
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Confusingly, the lady is singing God Bless America for a second time after Carl Paladino said “one more time? One more time!”.
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Carl Paladino, the 2010 candidate for New York governor, is here at the Trump rally, saying our “friend” Trump is on his way.
Someone just led us through the pledge of allegiance and now a lady is singing God Bless America.