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Eurogroup meets on Greece bailout amid IMF tensions - live updates Eurogroup meets on Greece bailout amid IMF tensions - live updates
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While we wait for progress at the Eurogroup, here are some more photos from today’s meeting.
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But...But...
One of last-minute obstacles 4 review conclusion relates to #Greece PM announcement re creation of solidarity fund, acc to MNI (via @skaigr)One of last-minute obstacles 4 review conclusion relates to #Greece PM announcement re creation of solidarity fund, acc to MNI (via @skaigr)
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More optimism the Eurogroup’s talks will be constructive:More optimism the Eurogroup’s talks will be constructive:
There are pending issues re 18 prior actions but not big enough to block disbursement, acc to official (via @capitalgr) #Eurogroup #GreeceThere are pending issues re 18 prior actions but not big enough to block disbursement, acc to official (via @capitalgr) #Eurogroup #Greece
The story is here (in Greek).The story is here (in Greek).
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European markets end higherEuropean markets end higher
Stock markets appear to have come to terms with the prospect of a US interest rate rise, perhaps as early as next month. Indeed, the idea of the Federal Reserve hiking rates put financial shares in the spotlight, on the basis that dearer borrowing costs could boost their balance sheets.Stock markets appear to have come to terms with the prospect of a US interest rate rise, perhaps as early as next month. Indeed, the idea of the Federal Reserve hiking rates put financial shares in the spotlight, on the basis that dearer borrowing costs could boost their balance sheets.
Meanwhile there was also optimism that a deal between Greece and its creditors could finally be reached at the Eurogroup meeting, despite tensions with the IMF over the country’s debt situation, thus releasing much needed bailout funds.Meanwhile there was also optimism that a deal between Greece and its creditors could finally be reached at the Eurogroup meeting, despite tensions with the IMF over the country’s debt situation, thus releasing much needed bailout funds.
Another EU referendum survey showing the remain camp in the lead also helped support markets, as did another rise in the oil price. Tony Cross, market analyst at Trustnet Direct, said:Another EU referendum survey showing the remain camp in the lead also helped support markets, as did another rise in the oil price. Tony Cross, market analyst at Trustnet Direct, said:
It’s been nothing short of a stellar day for the FTSE-100 as the market has shaken off earlier woes to forge a path higher, despite what could be construed as a raft of adversity. Public sector borrowing was higher than expected and Bank of England officials painted another gloomy picture over the economic outlook in their parliamentary appearance. The saving grace however appears to have been a combination of that latest Brexit survey data showing the Remain camp forging its way ahead, plus the fact that oil prices are evidently ascending, too.It’s been nothing short of a stellar day for the FTSE-100 as the market has shaken off earlier woes to forge a path higher, despite what could be construed as a raft of adversity. Public sector borrowing was higher than expected and Bank of England officials painted another gloomy picture over the economic outlook in their parliamentary appearance. The saving grace however appears to have been a combination of that latest Brexit survey data showing the Remain camp forging its way ahead, plus the fact that oil prices are evidently ascending, too.
The final scores in Europe showed:The final scores in Europe showed:
On Wall Street, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is currently up 215 points or 1.23%.On Wall Street, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is currently up 215 points or 1.23%.
As for oil, Brent crude has climbed 0.54% to $48.61 a barrel.As for oil, Brent crude has climbed 0.54% to $48.61 a barrel.
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Schaeuble looking surprisingly happy... pic.twitter.com/U2G5RbDWXSSchaeuble looking surprisingly happy... pic.twitter.com/U2G5RbDWXS
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Here’s AP’s summary of the comments ahead of the Eurogroup meeting on Greece:Here’s AP’s summary of the comments ahead of the Eurogroup meeting on Greece:
The eurozone’s top official expressed optimism Tuesday that Greece’s creditors will approve its reform efforts, paving the way for the payout of a new batch of rescue loans that would keep Athens from defaulting on its massive debts this summer.The eurozone’s top official expressed optimism Tuesday that Greece’s creditors will approve its reform efforts, paving the way for the payout of a new batch of rescue loans that would keep Athens from defaulting on its massive debts this summer.
“I hope that there is full agreement between the institutions, that we can move on in the program,” said Jeroen Dijsselbloem, the head of the eurogroup of finance ministers, as he arrived for the talks in Brussels.“I hope that there is full agreement between the institutions, that we can move on in the program,” said Jeroen Dijsselbloem, the head of the eurogroup of finance ministers, as he arrived for the talks in Brussels.
Greece’s parliament passed a bill over the weekend on a series of measures that creditors had demanded. They included tax hikes, more budget-cutting reforms and a new privatization superfund, which will manage almost all state property.Greece’s parliament passed a bill over the weekend on a series of measures that creditors had demanded. They included tax hikes, more budget-cutting reforms and a new privatization superfund, which will manage almost all state property.
The next step for creditors would be to find a way to lighten the country’s debt load, which mainly consists of past rescue loans from eurozone states. Greece’s debt is predicted to reach more than €333bn this year, around 180% of its annual economic output.The next step for creditors would be to find a way to lighten the country’s debt load, which mainly consists of past rescue loans from eurozone states. Greece’s debt is predicted to reach more than €333bn this year, around 180% of its annual economic output.
“Greece needs room to breathe, it needs certainty. It’s made considerable efforts, and again this weekend,” said French Finance Minister Michel Sapin, referring to the reforms Greece passed.“Greece needs room to breathe, it needs certainty. It’s made considerable efforts, and again this weekend,” said French Finance Minister Michel Sapin, referring to the reforms Greece passed.
On the question of debt relief, Dijsselbloem said there was no appetite for any outright cut to the value of the money Greece owes.On the question of debt relief, Dijsselbloem said there was no appetite for any outright cut to the value of the money Greece owes.
Rather, the creditors are likely to examine a possible lowering in the interest rates and possibly an extension of the rescue loans’ maturity dates, as called for by the International Monetary Fund. There are fears the IMF may even pull out of the bailout program if Greece’s debt burden is not lightened.Rather, the creditors are likely to examine a possible lowering in the interest rates and possibly an extension of the rescue loans’ maturity dates, as called for by the International Monetary Fund. There are fears the IMF may even pull out of the bailout program if Greece’s debt burden is not lightened.
“An actual haircut of the loans will not happen,” Dijsselboem said. “What we can look at is the annual debt burden, so Greece can on an annual basis pay its debts. If not, we are ready to help them in the coming years.”“An actual haircut of the loans will not happen,” Dijsselboem said. “What we can look at is the annual debt burden, so Greece can on an annual basis pay its debts. If not, we are ready to help them in the coming years.”
Senior EU officials believe the plans being drawn up by experts to address Greece’s short, mid- and longer-term debt needs will be enough to keep the IMF on board.Senior EU officials believe the plans being drawn up by experts to address Greece’s short, mid- and longer-term debt needs will be enough to keep the IMF on board.
“There is a real added value to have the IMF on board, so it is not an option to go on without the IMF,” Dijsselbloem said.“There is a real added value to have the IMF on board, so it is not an option to go on without the IMF,” Dijsselbloem said.
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Wall Street opens sharply higherWall Street opens sharply higher
US investors have followed their European counterparts and moved back into the stock market, with continuing talk about an imminent Federal Reserve rate rise helping to lift financial stocks.US investors have followed their European counterparts and moved back into the stock market, with continuing talk about an imminent Federal Reserve rate rise helping to lift financial stocks.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average is currently up 187 points or just over 1%, while the S&P 500 has added 0.7% and Nasdaq is 0.85% better.The Dow Jones Industrial Average is currently up 187 points or just over 1%, while the S&P 500 has added 0.7% and Nasdaq is 0.85% better.
In Europe, Germany’s Dax is 1.8% higher while France’s Cac has climbed 2%. The FTSE 100 is up 70 points or 1.1%.In Europe, Germany’s Dax is 1.8% higher while France’s Cac has climbed 2%. The FTSE 100 is up 70 points or 1.1%.
But as the Eurogroup meets to try and resolve the Greek debt situation, the Athens market has slipped 1.27%.But as the Eurogroup meets to try and resolve the Greek debt situation, the Athens market has slipped 1.27%.
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Back with Mark Carney, and here’s our report on the Bank of England governor’s appearance at the Treasury select committee:Back with Mark Carney, and here’s our report on the Bank of England governor’s appearance at the Treasury select committee:
Related: Bank of England governor rejects accusations of bias over EU referendumRelated: Bank of England governor rejects accusations of bias over EU referendum
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More comments made ahead of the Eurogroup meeting which should now be well underway:More comments made ahead of the Eurogroup meeting which should now be well underway:
Michael Noonan of Ireland is expecting agreement on disbursement for #Greece today, plus detailed discussion on debt relief roadmap.Michael Noonan of Ireland is expecting agreement on disbursement for #Greece today, plus detailed discussion on debt relief roadmap.
And Eurogroup president Jeroen Dijsselbloem:And Eurogroup president Jeroen Dijsselbloem:
Greek bailout without IMF 'not an option,' says Dijsselbloem https://t.co/H9gHXAFsSI pic.twitter.com/tsCi8BCUMrGreek bailout without IMF 'not an option,' says Dijsselbloem https://t.co/H9gHXAFsSI pic.twitter.com/tsCi8BCUMr
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The International Monetary Fund is using its negotiating position to try and persuade the Eurogroup to make concessions in the Greek debt crisis, says the Centre for Economics and Business Research, and this may be its best chance to push its point of view.The International Monetary Fund is using its negotiating position to try and persuade the Eurogroup to make concessions in the Greek debt crisis, says the Centre for Economics and Business Research, and this may be its best chance to push its point of view.
But Cebr economist Danae Kyriakopoulou said:But Cebr economist Danae Kyriakopoulou said:
Cebr warns against premature optimism that today’s meeting will mark ‘the end of the Eurozone crisis’. IMF policy is determined by its shareholders (represented by the board), rather than its staff. Politics matter much more to the former. And there is little enthusiasm in Germany for debt relief which would be hard to sell to the country’s voters.Cebr warns against premature optimism that today’s meeting will mark ‘the end of the Eurozone crisis’. IMF policy is determined by its shareholders (represented by the board), rather than its staff. Politics matter much more to the former. And there is little enthusiasm in Germany for debt relief which would be hard to sell to the country’s voters.
On the other hand the Eurogroup will be unwilling to risk a crisis that could break up the Euro in the run-up to the UK Brexit vote on 23 June and the Spanish elections on 26 June, so arguably today’s meeting is the IMF’s best chance to use its negotiating power to force the concessions it believes are necessary.On the other hand the Eurogroup will be unwilling to risk a crisis that could break up the Euro in the run-up to the UK Brexit vote on 23 June and the Spanish elections on 26 June, so arguably today’s meeting is the IMF’s best chance to use its negotiating power to force the concessions it believes are necessary.
The Cebr sees two ways the situation could develop:The Cebr sees two ways the situation could develop:
1. The IMF backs off and avoids confrontation with the Europeans. This would continue the “extend and pretend” strategy that has governed the Greek crisis since it started. This would most certainly be bad for the Greek economy, as the IMF staff’s projections show. And, it could prove very damaging to Europe as it raises the likelihood of a default and Grexit further down the line – meaning that debt owed to European taxpayers (including in the UK) would never be repaid.1. The IMF backs off and avoids confrontation with the Europeans. This would continue the “extend and pretend” strategy that has governed the Greek crisis since it started. This would most certainly be bad for the Greek economy, as the IMF staff’s projections show. And, it could prove very damaging to Europe as it raises the likelihood of a default and Grexit further down the line – meaning that debt owed to European taxpayers (including in the UK) would never be repaid.
2. The IMF plays hardball and poses a painful dilemma to the Europeans. This would certainly be risky. A failure to agree could lead to another Eurozone crisis, possibly a Grexit. But it is in everyone’s interest that this is avoided. The debt relief itself need not take the form of an outright haircut. Some form of reprofiling, as outlined in the IMF’s DSA could do the trick. This would put the Greek economy on a more sustainable trajectory but would be costly politically to Eurozone leaders and may lead to political instability in the already-troubled union.2. The IMF plays hardball and poses a painful dilemma to the Europeans. This would certainly be risky. A failure to agree could lead to another Eurozone crisis, possibly a Grexit. But it is in everyone’s interest that this is avoided. The debt relief itself need not take the form of an outright haircut. Some form of reprofiling, as outlined in the IMF’s DSA could do the trick. This would put the Greek economy on a more sustainable trajectory but would be costly politically to Eurozone leaders and may lead to political instability in the already-troubled union.
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Germany’s finance minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, has just put his finger on the problems over the Greek bailout.
Arriving for today’s meeting, Schäuble told reporters that there can be “no programme” for Greece without the IMF.
However, he then declared that a decision on Greece’s debt relief can only come in 2018, at the end of the bailout. That’s later than the IMF is demanding.
However, Schäuble says he’s “optimistic” that these issues can be resolved.
More Schaeuble: "We have no quarrel with the IMF" #Greece #Eurogroup
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Back at the eurogroup, European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker has revealed that all isn’t well:
Journalist: "All good?" @JunckerEU : "No." pic.twitter.com/qWVydMwA58
I suspect he’s worried about the tensions between Greece’s creditors, after the International Monetary Fund urged the eurozone to give Athens deeper debt relief.
Today’s meeting could become a serious showdown between the two sides, over the issue of Greece’s debt sustainability.
Belgium’s finance chief, Johan Van Overtveldt, told reporters outside today’s meeting that he wasn’t impressed by the IMF’s new call for ‘unconditional’ debt relief. Such relief must always have conditions attached, he argues.
#Eurogroup Van Overtveldt says it's strange tht #IMF asks for unconditional debt relief, we always maintained that relief comes w conditions
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Here’s why Belgium’s workers took to the streets today, from AFP:
“I am here to protest against all the measures that this right-wing government is taking. They are attacking workers, pensioners and the unemployed,” Michel Beis, a trade union member taking part in the peaceful rally told AFP before the violence broke out.
“We are going backwards,” added Jacques Warnier, a protester from the town of Liege.
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The AFP newswire are tweeting photos from today’s clashes in Brussels:
La police fait usage de canons à eau lors d'incidents en marge de la manifestation de Bruxelles #AFP pic.twitter.com/Q4iUY1ES84
La police continue à refouler les manifestants à Bruxelles #AFP pic.twitter.com/nxpFDgoNWI
They report:
Belgian police fired water-cannon during clashes with protesters at a huge demonstration in Brussels on Tuesday against the centre-right government’s austerity measures, AFP journalists said.
A group of around 100 masked protesters broke away from the peaceful main rally of around 60,000 people in the Belgian capital and started hurling objects and firecrackers at riot police, they said.
Officers then drove them back with jets of water from three cannon.
Tuesday’s protest is supposed to kick off months of planned demonstrations and national strikes led by trade unions against the policies of Prime Minister Charles Michel’s government.
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Anti-austerity protesters clash with police in Brussels
Clashes are breaking out in the Belgium capital, as an anti-austerity demonstration turns violent.
Local media are reporting that riot police are using water cannon on protesters; just as eurozone finance ministers meet to discuss Greece’s bailout.
Today’s protests are organised by Belgium’s unions, to oppose the government’s cost-cutting measures and employment reforms.
The demonstrations had started peacefully:
But some protesters then began throwing rocks at the police....
....prompting the water cannons to be deployed.
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Eurozone ministers meet in Brussels to discuss Greece
Meanwhile in Brussels, eurozone finance ministers have been gathering for today’s Eurogroup meeting.
As explained back in the introduction, we had expected ministers to sign off on a €11bn bailout payment for Greece.
But, in a worrying sign, Slovakia’s finance minister has warned that the meeting will be difficult - and could last all night!
Peter Kažimer appears to be pushing for a deal on Greece’s loans today, but not on the sticky issue of debt relief which is dividing the country’s creditors.
I’m afraid we will spend the night together. #Greece #Eurogroup #eurozone #IMF
This #Eurogroup is not going to be an easy one. Many things remain unresolved. #eurozone #Greece
Most important thing is to conclude review & agree tranche - give #Greece breathing space. We don’t need another liquidity crisis. #eurozone
We believe that debt-relief talks & financial participation of International Monetary Fund can wait for later stage. #IMF #Greece #eurozone
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Cambridge lecturer Finbarr Livesey has helpfully tweeted the timings of the best moments of today’s hearing:
Carney reacts to qns of political involvement and influence of Goldman Sachs at 10:35 and 11:41 in Treasury Cmmt https://t.co/Fo4elKkFqG
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Here’s some reaction to Mark Carney’s appearance at parliament today, from Calum Bennie, savings expert at Scottish Friendly:
“Today’s grilling of Mark Carney by the Treasury Select Committee has only helped fuel the speculation on the impact a Brexit would have on the UK economy.
“The build-up to the EU referendum appears to be having a significant impact on the economy as sterling has been incredibly volatile, while GDP and inflation have slowed are slowing.
“Mr Carney didn’t exactly offer savers much ground for optimism today as he merely said the next move in interest rates would ‘probably’ be up if there is a vote to remain, while a Brexit would mean there is less chance of a rate rise. Once again savers are left wondering how long rates will continue at rock bottom, potentially eroding the value of their cash.
“Savers should heed this warning from the Governor and look to the long term returns stocks and shares ISAs can offer, though risk is attached.”
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Lunchtime summary: Carney faces his Brexit critics
That was a livelier morning than expected. Here’s a quick recap.
The governor of the Bank of England has fought off criticism following his warning that Britain’s economy would suffer if the public vote to leave the EU.
Mark Carney insisted that the Bank was right to outline its concerns, saying:
By our actions, and comments, we have made it more likely that we’ll bring inflation back to target, whatever the outcome of the referendum, sooner and more sustainably.
Carney also warned that the financial markets could have a “Pavlovian” reaction to the EU referendum vote.
If Britain chooses to Brexit on June 23, then it would have a negative impact on growth and the pound, and push inflation up, he argued.
It’s important not just for those in financial markets to understand that, but it’s important also to (be) straight with the British people about that.
But Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg accused the governor of peddling government propaganda.
In one of the more ill-tempered exchanges seen recently, Rees-Mogg argued that the Bank had broken its own rules on independence, and damaged its reputation.
Rees-Mogg displaying dignity of a losing manager who claims referee is biased by accusing Carney of "supporting one side in the campaign".
And fellow Tory Steve Baker appeared to shock Carney, by asking him to deny that he was secretly working for Goldman Sachs.
Carney said he was shocked that such a thing could even be suggested.
Carney asked if Goldman Sachs leaned on him over #Brexit: "I categorically refute that and am stunned."
Carney was supported by three other top officials. Deputy governor Ben Broadbent, and external MPC members Martin Weale and Gertjan Vleighe, said they shared the governor’s concerns.
And the governor also revealed that he had an early peek at the Brexit paper produced by the Treasury yesterday, over breakfast with the chancellor.
Before the session began, we learned that Britain’s financial position was worse than thought. The UK was forced to borrow £4bn more than forecast in the 2015-16 financial year, in a blow to George Osborne.
But every challenge is also an opportunity -- in this case, an opportunity to warn about Brexit fears....
Today's @ONS stats show public borrowing at £76.0bn in 2015/16 - down£15.7bn on 2014/15. Our spokesperson response: pic.twitter.com/2k5eRIrB3N
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Andrew Tyrie has returned from his little chin-wag with Jacob Rees-Mogg, to wrap up the session.
He thanks Martin Weale for his work at the Bank of England, as this could be his final appearance before the committee. Tyrie cites Weale’s “independence of mind” (which included several lonely, hawkish votes to raise interest rates).
Tyrie then hints that Weale might have another job lined up....
We’re very grateful for your public service, and we hope it’s not the last.
Weale keeps a straight face.
And committee chairman Tyrie can’t resist causing some mischief. He then picks up a copy of the Financial Times, which reports that governor Carney is the most trusted foreigner, ahead of German chancellor Angela Merkel or the US president.
Q: What did Carney make of this, as he enjoyed his porridge, or ‘whatever you have in the morning, when you’re not having breakfast with the chancellor’?
Carney says that the committee had to consider the impact of the EU referendum, because of the Bank’s mandate.
And he jokes that he assumes Tyrie won’t be questioning everyone else on that list.
Tyrie then suggests that IMF Christine Lagarde could “drift by” the committee in a few weeks time, “if she does decide to put both feet in it”. Get the popcorn ready....
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