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EU referendum debate: first major TV clash between the campaigns – live | EU referendum debate: first major TV clash between the campaigns – live |
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Back to immigration again, courtesy of Diane James, who says that qualified doctors in commonwealth countries are being denied entry to the UK | |
“Why not have someone from the Commonwealth who speaks our language?” she says. | |
To cheers from Remain supporters in the audience, Salmond comes in with: “If I wanted a qualified doctor then a qualified Lithuanian, Danish French one would do just now.” | |
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Not everyone is enjoying the debate at home... | |
I regret watching this already #bbcdebate | |
This would be better if they had a completely different panel and a completely different audience #BBCDebate | |
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Have the two sides been scaremongering? | |
Yes, says a woman in the audience who supports Brexit but dislikes the messages from her own ‘side’: “Some of the noise that we have heard about immigration and how awful it is if we stay.” | |
“I do want to leave and I think it would be better if we leave.” | |
However, she wants to ask the Remain side if David Cameron really believes “it will be world war three if we leave then why are we even risking a referendum?” | |
An audience member from the Remain side says that a massive majority of people are not going to turn out because of the poor quality of the debate. | |
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Salmond says that there are four weeks to go in the campaign and the Remain side really needs to engage people with positivity: “Leave the scaremongering behind and argue a positive case.” | |
But project fear won, says Derbyshire. “It works. You lost.” | |
Cue a short segue into the Scottish referendum’s twists and turns. | |
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It’s livening up a bit now. “Hang on ... I know you have no interest in the facts,” says Alan Johnson, in a comment that appears to have been directed at Liam Fox. | |
Fox wants to move things back to the issue of immigration: “When you have an uncontrolled figure then unavoidably put pressure on services. It’s for us in our own country to decide that number.” | |
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Emily Wood, a music producer from Poole has the third question. She says her disabled mum needs a bungalow but that immigrants are “bumped up the list”. Is she right to want to leave? | |
Salmond: “I wouldn’t make that connection. If we have a housing crisis we should build more housing.” | |
He ventures the scenario of Boris Johnson dislocating his jaw from overuse (laughs from audience). The Tory MP wouldn’t turn away help from doctors who had migrated here, he says. | |
Emily Wood isn’t happy, saying that she didn’t claim that migrants were not happy: “You have not got enough houses now ... so where are you going to put them? | |
It then kicks off a little bit between Wood and Asma, another audience member who gets a “waheey” from Salmond when she says that she is from Aberdeen. | |
“When it comes to housing, it is because of the EU that we have certain regulations that allow us to have spacious rooms,” says Asma, who also cites the contribution of her own parents who she says immigrated into the UK. | |
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Diane James wants to bring in immigration and link it to the house price question: “If we can’t control the number of people coming here you are not going to be able to catch up and you can’t plan.” | |
Liam Fox says he has no problem with “controlled migration” which he says can bring benefits. | |
“If you have an uncontrolled number then then the arithmetic tells you that it will put pressure on services, and housing.” | |
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Second question. Michael Harvey, 26, a cleaner from Glasgow cites George Osborne as that leaving the EU would mean a drop in house prices. “Why is this a bad thing?” he asks. | |
Alan Johnson replies that he is always puzzled by the British obsession with house prices. All the reports he has mentioned are about the economy “tanking” and walking away from other trading opportunities. | |
Salmond is in next: “Neither Alan or I are responsible for the utterances of George Osborne. We want to make a positive case for the EU. | |
“It’s the idea and principle that will win votes.” | |
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Derbyshire asks the audience what they make of the “apocalyptic” forecasts. “Yes or no, do you believe them?” she asks. | |
It was a loud “no” she says. Not the most scientific way of measuring opinion in the studio perhaps. | |
Alan Johnson isn’t happy: “It was a loud ‘no’” from over there.” | |
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To the audience now (it’s fairly fast paced stuff) and a young man says that the EU is “stagnating growth”. | |
Liam Fox says that economic forecasters nearly always get it wrong and picks up that young audience member’s point. | |
“It’s not just a question of jobs. It’s the impact it’s having on the wider economy,” he adds, telling the audience that the European economy is now the lowest growing economy in the world apart from Antarctica. | |
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Alan Johnson is up next, who says that being in the EU means more opportunities for young people. | |
Alan Johnson: being in the EU means more opportunities for young people #euref #BBCDebate | |
Diane James comes in with some figures highlighting the high rate of unemployment in the EU. | |
Alex Samond says that he “doesn’t go with the scaremongering stuff,” adding: “The treasury says it’s going to be apocalypse. I don’t believe that.” | |
“I do believe that the Bank of England says however, which is that there will be less growth.” | |
He follows up with some of the cultural appeal to voters, drawing a link to a supposed larger European community and mentioning how “you can go to Barcelona and see some great football”. | |
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First question, from Muniab, an 18-year-old student who asks will the economy be strong enough if the UK leaves? | |
Liam Fox gets to bat first, and is pressed by Victoria Derbyshire who asks him if Muniab will get a job if Britain leaves the UK. | |
“If you are good enough to get a job you will get a job,” says Fox, who says that control of stimulating the economy will only come if the UK leaves the EU. | |
Did it answer the question? “Sort of,” says Muniab (apologies if I misspelled your name). | |
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We’re hearing first from a few members of the audience. It includes 55 ‘undecideds’ as well as two blocks who have made up their minds. | We’re hearing first from a few members of the audience. It includes 55 ‘undecideds’ as well as two blocks who have made up their minds. |
The second of them – the microphone didn’t pick up her name – says: | |
“This referendum is really important but not a lot of young people my age are talking about it.” | “This referendum is really important but not a lot of young people my age are talking about it.” |
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So there goes, the referendum campaign’s ‘Yoof’ debate as it were – despite the fact ... er ... that the youngest member of the panel is 54 and the eldest 66. | So there goes, the referendum campaign’s ‘Yoof’ debate as it were – despite the fact ... er ... that the youngest member of the panel is 54 and the eldest 66. |
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Tonight’s debate is the first of eight major televised debates between now and the end of June. The others are: | Tonight’s debate is the first of eight major televised debates between now and the end of June. The others are: |
David Cameron Live. Sky News, June 2, 8pm | David Cameron Live. Sky News, June 2, 8pm |
After an interview by Faisal Islam, the prime minister will face a question and answer session from an audience, moderated by Kay Burley. | After an interview by Faisal Islam, the prime minister will face a question and answer session from an audience, moderated by Kay Burley. |
Michael Gove Live. ITV, June 9, 9pm | Michael Gove Live. ITV, June 9, 9pm |
The same format as the previous night’s show will centre on the justice secretary, who will make the Leave case.Cameron and Farage Live: The EU referendum. ITV, June 7, 9pm | The same format as the previous night’s show will centre on the justice secretary, who will make the Leave case.Cameron and Farage Live: The EU referendum. ITV, June 7, 9pm |
Hosted by Julie Etchingham, Ukip leader Nigel Farage will take 3o minutes of questions from a studio audience, followed by the prime minister.The ITV Referendum Debate. ITV, June 9, 8pm | Hosted by Julie Etchingham, Ukip leader Nigel Farage will take 3o minutes of questions from a studio audience, followed by the prime minister.The ITV Referendum Debate. ITV, June 9, 8pm |
Etchingham will host a programme featuring two teams of political figures from either side of the debate. | Etchingham will host a programme featuring two teams of political figures from either side of the debate. |
Question Time EU Referendum Special with Michael Gove. BBC One, June 15, 6.45pm | Question Time EU Referendum Special with Michael Gove. BBC One, June 15, 6.45pm |
David Dimbleby will chair 40 minutes of questions to the justice secretary from an audience at a venue in Nottingham. | David Dimbleby will chair 40 minutes of questions to the justice secretary from an audience at a venue in Nottingham. |
Question Time EU Referendum Special with David Cameron. BBC One, June 19, 6.45pm | Question Time EU Referendum Special with David Cameron. BBC One, June 19, 6.45pm |
The same format as the programme with will feature the prime minister four days later in Milton Keynes. | The same format as the programme with will feature the prime minister four days later in Milton Keynes. |
EU Referendum: The Great Debate. BBC One, June 21, 8pm | EU Referendum: The Great Debate. BBC One, June 21, 8pm |
Dimbleby, Emiy Maitlis and Mishal Husain will host a debate which is expected to feature major figures from either side. | Dimbleby, Emiy Maitlis and Mishal Husain will host a debate which is expected to feature major figures from either side. |
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Good evening and welcome to live coverage of the first major televised debate of the referendum campaign. | Good evening and welcome to live coverage of the first major televised debate of the referendum campaign. |
Aimed at voters aged 19-to-29, it’s going out at 8pm (UK time) on BBC 1 and will be hosted by Victoria Derbyshire. | |
On the Remain side: | |
On the Leave side: | On the Leave side: |
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