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EU referendum live: Nigel Farage to lead Thames flotilla in Brexit call EU referendum live: Nigel Farage to lead Thames flotilla in Brexit call
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Some lunchtime light relief amid the claims and counter-claims – a man with a YouTube channel specialising in such things has re-edited the Vice News film about Jeremy Corbyn into a surprisingly convincing mini-edition of The Office. As spotted by the mysteriously-named CoolingTower1 in the comments.
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My colleague Rowena Mason has written a full story on Iain Duncan Smith’s fairly personal criticism of David Cameron.
Related: Duncan Smith accuses PM of lying over EU immigration
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JP Morgan says it could cut 4,000 UK jobs if Brexit happensJP Morgan says it could cut 4,000 UK jobs if Brexit happens
Jamie Dimon, the JP Morgan chief executive, has been more explicit in his Brexit warnings, saying the banking giant could cut lots of jobs in the event of this happening. My colleague Sean Farrell has more:Jamie Dimon, the JP Morgan chief executive, has been more explicit in his Brexit warnings, saying the banking giant could cut lots of jobs in the event of this happening. My colleague Sean Farrell has more:
The chief executive of JP Morgan has warned that the biggest US bank could cut as many as 4,000 UK jobs if Britain votes to leave the EU.The chief executive of JP Morgan has warned that the biggest US bank could cut as many as 4,000 UK jobs if Britain votes to leave the EU.
Speaking to employees in Bournemouth, Jamie Dimon said Brexit would be a terrible deal for the UK economy and jobs and that Britain could find itself in a trade war with the EU.Speaking to employees in Bournemouth, Jamie Dimon said Brexit would be a terrible deal for the UK economy and jobs and that Britain could find itself in a trade war with the EU.
With the chancellor, George Osborne next to him, Dimon said JP Morgan would have to act quickly after a vote to leave because it would not be able to service its clients around Europe from the UK as it does now.With the chancellor, George Osborne next to him, Dimon said JP Morgan would have to act quickly after a vote to leave because it would not be able to service its clients around Europe from the UK as it does now.
“I don’t know if it means 1,000 jobs, 2,000 jobs – it could be as many as 4,000. They will be jobs all round the UK... I don’t want you to worry about it but when you vote you should be thinking about something like that,” Dimon told employees.“I don’t know if it means 1,000 jobs, 2,000 jobs – it could be as many as 4,000. They will be jobs all round the UK... I don’t want you to worry about it but when you vote you should be thinking about something like that,” Dimon told employees.
JP Morgan employs about 19,000 people in the UK, with its main offices in Canary Wharf, Bournemouth and Glasgow. Dimon has hinted before that JP Morgan could quit or severely reduce its activities in the UK if there was a vote to leave the EU but he has not put a figure on potential job losses before.JP Morgan employs about 19,000 people in the UK, with its main offices in Canary Wharf, Bournemouth and Glasgow. Dimon has hinted before that JP Morgan could quit or severely reduce its activities in the UK if there was a vote to leave the EU but he has not put a figure on potential job losses before.
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George Osborne has been in action, warning JP Morgan staff to “think carefully about the consequences of leaving the EU” before they vote. He was appearing at the investment bank’s centre in Bournemouth, Dorset, alongside JP Morgan’s chief executive, Jamie Dimon.George Osborne has been in action, warning JP Morgan staff to “think carefully about the consequences of leaving the EU” before they vote. He was appearing at the investment bank’s centre in Bournemouth, Dorset, alongside JP Morgan’s chief executive, Jamie Dimon.
His words were largely intended for a wider audience, given pretty much all global financial services corporations are very strongly for Remain. I’ve not been sent Osborne’s speech, so I’ve borrowed some quotes from the BBC’s excellent politics live blog:His words were largely intended for a wider audience, given pretty much all global financial services corporations are very strongly for Remain. I’ve not been sent Osborne’s speech, so I’ve borrowed some quotes from the BBC’s excellent politics live blog:
Weigh all these things up before you vote, but think carefully about the consequences of leaving the EU.... It is not all about numbers but people’s livelihoods and ability to support their families...Weigh all these things up before you vote, but think carefully about the consequences of leaving the EU.... It is not all about numbers but people’s livelihoods and ability to support their families...
I love this country like all of you do, and the Britain that I love is an outward looking country that has probably done more to shape our world and influence our world, than any other country on our planet. And we’ve done that because we’ve engaged in the world, and never thought that we could pull up the drawbridge and retreat from our world.I love this country like all of you do, and the Britain that I love is an outward looking country that has probably done more to shape our world and influence our world, than any other country on our planet. And we’ve done that because we’ve engaged in the world, and never thought that we could pull up the drawbridge and retreat from our world.
Dimon was more explicit in his warnings about Brexit:Dimon was more explicit in his warnings about Brexit:
My observation of the facts is that a vote to Leave would be a terrible deal for the British economy. At a minimum, a Brexit will result in years of uncertainty and I believe that this uncertainty will hurt the economies of both Britain and the European Union.My observation of the facts is that a vote to Leave would be a terrible deal for the British economy. At a minimum, a Brexit will result in years of uncertainty and I believe that this uncertainty will hurt the economies of both Britain and the European Union.
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More flotilla news: my colleague Severin Carrell has the full story on Nigel Farage’s fishing boats on the Thames protest plan.More flotilla news: my colleague Severin Carrell has the full story on Nigel Farage’s fishing boats on the Thames protest plan.
Related: Nigel Farage to lead pro-Brexit flotilla up ThamesRelated: Nigel Farage to lead pro-Brexit flotilla up Thames
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IDS says PM has tried to "deceive the British public" on immigrationIDS says PM has tried to "deceive the British public" on immigration
In comments sent round just now by the Vote Leave campaign Iain Duncan Smith has accused David Cameron of “a clear attempt to deceive the British public” over immigration, something the former pensions secretary says has left him “astonished”.In comments sent round just now by the Vote Leave campaign Iain Duncan Smith has accused David Cameron of “a clear attempt to deceive the British public” over immigration, something the former pensions secretary says has left him “astonished”.
The specific complaint centres on Cameron’s appearance earlier on Good Morning Britain, when he argued of EU nationals, “if they don’t find a job they go home”, and that they must work four years to get “full access” to the welfare system.The specific complaint centres on Cameron’s appearance earlier on Good Morning Britain, when he argued of EU nationals, “if they don’t find a job they go home”, and that they must work four years to get “full access” to the welfare system.
Vote Leave says these are “two lies”, as under current rules EU nationals cannot be sent home and they can receive some benefits such as tax credits much earlier.Vote Leave says these are “two lies”, as under current rules EU nationals cannot be sent home and they can receive some benefits such as tax credits much earlier.
This might seem a bit pedantic. Cameron referred to “full access” to benefits, and could just as easily have been arguing that jobless EU nationals choose to go home, as otherwise they’re penniless.This might seem a bit pedantic. Cameron referred to “full access” to benefits, and could just as easily have been arguing that jobless EU nationals choose to go home, as otherwise they’re penniless.
But Duncan Smith’s comments are both very strong and hugely personal. It doesn’t bode well for party unity for even an ex-minister to accuse the leader of lying to the country for political gain. He said:But Duncan Smith’s comments are both very strong and hugely personal. It doesn’t bode well for party unity for even an ex-minister to accuse the leader of lying to the country for political gain. He said:
I’m astonished at these comments, which are deeply insincere, and a clear attempt to deceive the British public. The truth is that for as long as we are a member of the European Union we are powerless to control the number of people coming to this country.I’m astonished at these comments, which are deeply insincere, and a clear attempt to deceive the British public. The truth is that for as long as we are a member of the European Union we are powerless to control the number of people coming to this country.
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Miliband defends PM's #EU debate performance and sets out 'social justice case' for EU membership. https://t.co/z0iziJLMPSMiliband defends PM's #EU debate performance and sets out 'social justice case' for EU membership. https://t.co/z0iziJLMPS
David Miliband is campaigning for Remain with Alan Johnson later today. He’s spent the morning doing a few broadcast interviews, including one with BBC Breakfast (see the snippet above) in which he outlines the “distinctive, progressive, internationalist, social justice case” for remaining in the EU, one he says needs to be made.David Miliband is campaigning for Remain with Alan Johnson later today. He’s spent the morning doing a few broadcast interviews, including one with BBC Breakfast (see the snippet above) in which he outlines the “distinctive, progressive, internationalist, social justice case” for remaining in the EU, one he says needs to be made.
He also had a chat on LBC, saying immigration is not something to always be feared:He also had a chat on LBC, saying immigration is not something to always be feared:
I think it’s important to say, immigration isn’t a disease. Immigration is a reflection of the strengths of the country and a contributor to the country.I think it’s important to say, immigration isn’t a disease. Immigration is a reflection of the strengths of the country and a contributor to the country.
Immigration isn’t a disease and London is a great example of why immigration isn’t a disease. This is a city that has thrived because it has allowed people to come and make a contribution and I think we’ve got to get the balance right.Immigration isn’t a disease and London is a great example of why immigration isn’t a disease. This is a city that has thrived because it has allowed people to come and make a contribution and I think we’ve got to get the balance right.
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I’ve been listening to what Nigel Farage had to say just now on LBC. The idea of a flotilla of boats coming up the Thames (see 9.37am) is to protest at EU fisheries policies, it seems. This is what he had to say to Nick Ferrari:I’ve been listening to what Nigel Farage had to say just now on LBC. The idea of a flotilla of boats coming up the Thames (see 9.37am) is to protest at EU fisheries policies, it seems. This is what he had to say to Nick Ferrari:
One thing I can promise you is you are about to hear a lot about the fishing industry. I will tell you now… that on 15 June I will be boarding a small trawler in Southend-on-Sea at 5am and we will catch the flood tide.One thing I can promise you is you are about to hear a lot about the fishing industry. I will tell you now… that on 15 June I will be boarding a small trawler in Southend-on-Sea at 5am and we will catch the flood tide.
There will be 60 boats in a flotilla coming up the Thames and we will arrive outside the Palace of Westminster at midday. It will be big, visual and dramatic, The demand will be clear: we want our waters back.There will be 60 boats in a flotilla coming up the Thames and we will arrive outside the Palace of Westminster at midday. It will be big, visual and dramatic, The demand will be clear: we want our waters back.
Farage said he had “mentioned” the idea to Michael Gove and Boris Johnson. I wouldn’t hold your breath for them to join him. He also jokes about his duties being to cook breakfast on the trawlers, and that he will have “the key to the ship’s bar”, which perhaps indicates it was a while since he was on a commerical shipping boat.Farage said he had “mentioned” the idea to Michael Gove and Boris Johnson. I wouldn’t hold your breath for them to join him. He also jokes about his duties being to cook breakfast on the trawlers, and that he will have “the key to the ship’s bar”, which perhaps indicates it was a while since he was on a commerical shipping boat.
Farage also said that he would like Britain to send back any migrants who arrive in the country via sea, whether or not they might have a genuine claim for asylum:Farage also said that he would like Britain to send back any migrants who arrive in the country via sea, whether or not they might have a genuine claim for asylum:
We must, must, must, we must do what the Aussies did a few years ago and say, anyone that comes via this route will not be allowed to stay. If they have a valid case for asylum they should have claimed asylum in the first safe country they got to.We must, must, must, we must do what the Aussies did a few years ago and say, anyone that comes via this route will not be allowed to stay. If they have a valid case for asylum they should have claimed asylum in the first safe country they got to.
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My colleagues Lisa O’Carroll and Rachel Obordo have put together this fascinating series of chats with EU nationals around Britain who currently do jobs ranging from a lorry driver to neuropsychologist to a university researcher, and are wondering what the future might hold in the event of EU exit.My colleagues Lisa O’Carroll and Rachel Obordo have put together this fascinating series of chats with EU nationals around Britain who currently do jobs ranging from a lorry driver to neuropsychologist to a university researcher, and are wondering what the future might hold in the event of EU exit.
Here’s some quotes from Sebastian Kalwij, 50, a Dutch GP in London:Here’s some quotes from Sebastian Kalwij, 50, a Dutch GP in London:
When I came here first it was like the Eurovision. The hospital I worked in in Dartford was full of staff from all over Europe and it was a great atmosphere.When I came here first it was like the Eurovision. The hospital I worked in in Dartford was full of staff from all over Europe and it was a great atmosphere.
It doesn’t matter if you are Dutch, Irish or Romanian. But now there is a lot of uncertainty and I’m a bit miffed. I would seriously consider going back to Holland, where there is a shortage of doctors and I could easily get work. Spain or Portugal would also be an option. Canada has also been advertising for doctors.It doesn’t matter if you are Dutch, Irish or Romanian. But now there is a lot of uncertainty and I’m a bit miffed. I would seriously consider going back to Holland, where there is a shortage of doctors and I could easily get work. Spain or Portugal would also be an option. Canada has also been advertising for doctors.
Would I feel comfortable in a country that had racial overtones? I find Britain is very friendly and open, but I don’t like the anti-European sentiment.Would I feel comfortable in a country that had racial overtones? I find Britain is very friendly and open, but I don’t like the anti-European sentiment.
Note: Kalwij said the prospect of having to move country made him feel “a bit miffed”. This is someone who has truly integrated to British life.Note: Kalwij said the prospect of having to move country made him feel “a bit miffed”. This is someone who has truly integrated to British life.
Related: Meet Britain's EU workers: 'It would be difficult to replace us'Related: Meet Britain's EU workers: 'It would be difficult to replace us'
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The Electoral Reform Society has commissioned a poll which shows big differences between younger and older voters over engagement with the EU referendum. It said 47% of 18-24 year olds will definitely vote, against 80% of those aged 65 or older. An earlier poll had the figures at 41% and 76%.The Electoral Reform Society has commissioned a poll which shows big differences between younger and older voters over engagement with the EU referendum. It said 47% of 18-24 year olds will definitely vote, against 80% of those aged 65 or older. An earlier poll had the figures at 41% and 76%.
Of the younger voters, just 16% said they felt well informed or very well informed, half the figure for the 65-plus group. Darren Hughes from the Electoral Reform Society said:Of the younger voters, just 16% said they felt well informed or very well informed, half the figure for the 65-plus group. Darren Hughes from the Electoral Reform Society said:
Young people simply haven’t been mobilised by either of the campaigns. The fact that interest hasn’t picked up since the end of March suggests that this problem is entrenching itself or even getting worse. And the huge 33 percentage point chasm between young and old when it comes to whether they will ‘definitely’ vote bodes badly for our democracy when it comes to ensuring we have as representative a vote as possible.Young people simply haven’t been mobilised by either of the campaigns. The fact that interest hasn’t picked up since the end of March suggests that this problem is entrenching itself or even getting worse. And the huge 33 percentage point chasm between young and old when it comes to whether they will ‘definitely’ vote bodes badly for our democracy when it comes to ensuring we have as representative a vote as possible.
The online poll of 1,638 people was carried out by BMG Research.The online poll of 1,638 people was carried out by BMG Research.
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Farage to 'lead flotilla of boats' up Thames to call for BrexitFarage to 'lead flotilla of boats' up Thames to call for Brexit
I’d not spotted amid all the morning interviews that Nigel Farage was on LBC, but he seems to be continuing with his own fairly particular Brexit message.I’d not spotted amid all the morning interviews that Nigel Farage was on LBC, but he seems to be continuing with his own fairly particular Brexit message.
It can be easy to dismiss Farage, but his view does seem to resonate with a fair few people. I spent Tuesday on his bright purple battlebus in the Midlands. During a fairly long and chaotic walkabout of Birmingham’s Bull Ring market he got a lot of support and experienced only one (admittedly persistent) heckler. Fertile ground, maybe, given Ukip have three of the seven regional MEPs, but worth noting.It can be easy to dismiss Farage, but his view does seem to resonate with a fair few people. I spent Tuesday on his bright purple battlebus in the Midlands. During a fairly long and chaotic walkabout of Birmingham’s Bull Ring market he got a lot of support and experienced only one (admittedly persistent) heckler. Fertile ground, maybe, given Ukip have three of the seven regional MEPs, but worth noting.
Nigel Farage has told LBC he'll lead a flotilla of boats up the Thames to Westminster later this month to call for a Brexit.Nigel Farage has told LBC he'll lead a flotilla of boats up the Thames to Westminster later this month to call for a Brexit.
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Nigel Farage says people who illegally cross the English Channel should automatically have any asylum claim turned down.Nigel Farage says people who illegally cross the English Channel should automatically have any asylum claim turned down.
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Today’s overseas politician trying to gently nudge Britain towards remaining in the EU is Radek Sikorski, who spent seven years as Poland’s foreign minister under Donald Tusk.Today’s overseas politician trying to gently nudge Britain towards remaining in the EU is Radek Sikorski, who spent seven years as Poland’s foreign minister under Donald Tusk.
Speaking to the Today programme, Sikorski defended the decision of himself and more prominent overseas figures like Barack Obama and Angela Merkel to discuss the issue:Speaking to the Today programme, Sikorski defended the decision of himself and more prominent overseas figures like Barack Obama and Angela Merkel to discuss the issue:
It’s feelings of friendliness towards Britain. Everybody respects the British people’s decision to go either way. But when the president of the United States tells you that you are more important as an ally as a member – and then important politicians on the continent say they same – whereas the president of Russia cheers you on your way towards Brexit, you are free to draw your own conclusions.It’s feelings of friendliness towards Britain. Everybody respects the British people’s decision to go either way. But when the president of the United States tells you that you are more important as an ally as a member – and then important politicians on the continent say they same – whereas the president of Russia cheers you on your way towards Brexit, you are free to draw your own conclusions.
The tone is respectful, the tone of concerned friendship. You are free to make a mistake but we would prefer you not to.The tone is respectful, the tone of concerned friendship. You are free to make a mistake but we would prefer you not to.
Sikorski arguably has more of a stake than some overseas politicians – while studying in the UK in the early 1980s he was given political asylum when martial law was declared in his home country. He later studied at Oxford and was even a member of the Bullingdon Club, and remains friends with Boris Johnson. He told Today:Sikorski arguably has more of a stake than some overseas politicians – while studying in the UK in the early 1980s he was given political asylum when martial law was declared in his home country. He later studied at Oxford and was even a member of the Bullingdon Club, and remains friends with Boris Johnson. He told Today:
I am very fond of Boris but I don’t agree with him on this one.I am very fond of Boris but I don’t agree with him on this one.