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EU referendum live: Cameron accuses Leave of telling six 'complete untruths' EU referendum live: Cameron accuses Leave of telling six 'complete untruths'
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Cameron's press conference - Verdict
Cameron’s press conference - Verdict: Proper prime ministerial press conferences are as rare as solar eclipses (as I said earlier) and a flurry of excitement went through the Westminster village this morning when a press notice went out summoning journalists to one at very short notice. In the event, it did not live up to expectations.
It was not just that the event barely lasted longer than a solar eclipse, and that David Cameron only took one question from a newspaper journalist (meaning that the press conference description hardly applies anyway). It was that reporters were expecting a solid intervention, and instead got little more than a reheat of what Cameron told the Jeremy Vine show yesterday.
Cameron’s point was that he wanted to “call out” (dreadful phrase, but it’s the one he used) Vote Leave for telling six “complete untruths” about the EU choice facing voters. (See 11.25am.) His points were all strong ones. But there were at least three drawbacks with what he was up to.
First, only six? Anyone who draws up a good list knows that you need at last 10 points and, given Vote Leave’s record as a purveyor of dodgy claims, it would not have taken much work to get into double figures easily. Cameron seemed to be understating his case.
Second, he sounded as if he wanted to accuse Boris Johnson and Michael Gove of lying but could not quite bring himself to do so. This is understandable; “lying” (which means saying something knowing it to untrue, not just saying something in error) is a strong word which gets used to readily about politicians, most of whom are quite careful not to cross the line that separates the wilfully misleading from the outright fib. This explains why Cameron gave the answer he did about how Gove and Johnson were perhaps making false statements about EU budget matters because perhaps they did not understand the detail because they had not been involved in the discussion. (See 11.36am.) No, I don’t buy it either. Cameron ended up sounding just a tad naive. If he thinks they’re lying, perhaps it would be best to say so. But, of course, he can’t do that either, because at that point that the whole “how can you have a liar in your cabinet?” argument comes into play, and the post-referendum reconciliation reshuffle goes down the Swanee.
And, third, it it probably too late now for Cameron to win the trust argument. Yesterday polling figures came out confirming that Johnson is far more trust on EU matters than Cameron. As I wrote yesterday, this is not easy to understand, to put it politely. New YouGov polling out today (pdf) highlights the problem in more detail. Asked about the Leave campaign, 22% said it had been mostly honest, and 42% said it had been mostly dishonest, giving it a net honesty score of -20. Asked about the Remain campaign, 19% said it has been mostly honest, and 46% said it has been mostly dishonest, giving it a net honesty score of -27. This is in spite of the fact that the Remain campaign battlebus highlights a flagship claim about the cost of the EU that has been denounced as plain wrong by every expert body that has looked at it. Politicians sometimes take the view that the voters are always right, but in this case that argument is hard to sustain.
If Cameron wants to persuade people that his campaign is more honest than Leave, he’s going to have to find someone else to make the case. Someone of impeccable integrity. Perhaps the archbishop of Canterbury is free one morning over the next fortnight.
Still, Cameron did leave journalists with the impression that the Remain camp is in a bit a panic. With Remain needing to mobilise its supporters (because Leave’s are already more motivated), there is an advantage in getting that message out.
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Cameron declines to say that his opponents are deliberately lyingCameron declines to say that his opponents are deliberately lying
Q: [From Sky’s Faisal Islam] If your colleagues are lying, how can they be fit to be in your cabinet?Q: [From Sky’s Faisal Islam] If your colleagues are lying, how can they be fit to be in your cabinet?
Cameron says they are making points about EU policy. They have not been as involved in EU policy as he has been. He knows the reality, because he has been taking these decisions.Cameron says they are making points about EU policy. They have not been as involved in EU policy as he has been. He knows the reality, because he has been taking these decisions.
He says at times the EU drives him crazy.He says at times the EU drives him crazy.
He says it is not for him to say why his opponents are making these errors.He says it is not for him to say why his opponents are making these errors.
And that’s it.And that’s it.
The press conference is over.The press conference is over.
11.31am BST11.31am BST
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Q: You are accusing your colleagues of lying to the public. Are you worried you are losing?Q: You are accusing your colleagues of lying to the public. Are you worried you are losing?
Cameron says people are being told things that are not correct. He has called a press conference to correct that.Cameron says people are being told things that are not correct. He has called a press conference to correct that.
We must make a decision based on facts, he says.We must make a decision based on facts, he says.
He says he would not want people to go to the polling station without knowing the facts.He says he would not want people to go to the polling station without knowing the facts.
11.30am BST11.30am BST
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Q: The momentum seems to be with Leave.Q: The momentum seems to be with Leave.
Cameron says he is looking forward to his ITV appearance tonight. He was watching the news last night and was struck by the contrast between the weight of expert opinion, and the series of assertion from the Leave campaign “that simply aren’t right”.Cameron says he is looking forward to his ITV appearance tonight. He was watching the news last night and was struck by the contrast between the weight of expert opinion, and the series of assertion from the Leave campaign “that simply aren’t right”.
He says he felt it was important to say to people they should not leave the EU on the basis of false information.He says he felt it was important to say to people they should not leave the EU on the basis of false information.
He says he wanted to call out the Leave campaign. They are making assertions that are not correct.He says he wanted to call out the Leave campaign. They are making assertions that are not correct.
If it was just one body warning about the impact of the economy, people might say, ‘Let’s take a risk”.If it was just one body warning about the impact of the economy, people might say, ‘Let’s take a risk”.
But there are so many bodies warning of the risks that they cannot be ignored.But there are so many bodies warning of the risks that they cannot be ignored.
11.25am BST11.25am BST
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Cameron accuses Vote Leave of telling six 'complete untruths'Cameron accuses Vote Leave of telling six 'complete untruths'
Cameron says, from those who want us to lead, we have just heard “complacency and nonchalance”.Cameron says, from those who want us to lead, we have just heard “complacency and nonchalance”.
He says they have said we have had enough of experts. (He is referring to what Michael Gove said yesterday.) Would you build a bridge without advice from an expert.He says they have said we have had enough of experts. (He is referring to what Michael Gove said yesterday.) Would you build a bridge without advice from an expert.
He says Leave have told six “complete untruths” recently.He says Leave have told six “complete untruths” recently.
First, they said the UK would be liable for future eurozone bailouts. Not true, he says.First, they said the UK would be liable for future eurozone bailouts. Not true, he says.
Second, they said the UK rebate was at risk. Not true, he says.Second, they said the UK rebate was at risk. Not true, he says.
Third, they said the UK would lose its ability to veto future EU treaties. Not true, he says.Third, they said the UK would lose its ability to veto future EU treaties. Not true, he says.
Fourth, they said the UK could not stop the EU budget going up. Not true, he says.Fourth, they said the UK could not stop the EU budget going up. Not true, he says.
Fifth, they said the UK could not veto an EU army. Not true, he says.Fifth, they said the UK could not veto an EU army. Not true, he says.
And, sixth, they said leaving the EU would free up £8bn for spending on other things. Not true, he says. He says the IFS said that yesterday.And, sixth, they said leaving the EU would free up £8bn for spending on other things. Not true, he says. He says the IFS said that yesterday.
He says the Leave campaign need to be called out on the “nonsense they are peddling”.He says the Leave campaign need to be called out on the “nonsense they are peddling”.
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David Cameron's press conferenceDavid Cameron's press conference
David Cameron is starting with a statement.David Cameron is starting with a statement.
He mentions the intervention from the Hitachi boss. (See 8.42am.) He quotes from Hiroaki Nakanishi’s article and he says jobs would be at risk.He mentions the intervention from the Hitachi boss. (See 8.42am.) He quotes from Hiroaki Nakanishi’s article and he says jobs would be at risk.
And he quotes from what the head of the WTO said in a Reuters inteview yesterday about how leaving the EU would be a “high risk bet”.And he quotes from what the head of the WTO said in a Reuters inteview yesterday about how leaving the EU would be a “high risk bet”.
Cameron says these interventions are “an economic reality check”.Cameron says these interventions are “an economic reality check”.
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David Cameron is keeping the journalists waiting in the sunshine - which is not a good idea.David Cameron is keeping the journalists waiting in the sunshine - which is not a good idea.
Press corps beginning to wilt waiting for PM in blazing sunshine #factor500 #swelter #redfaces pic.twitter.com/zMvbXgvmKVPress corps beginning to wilt waiting for PM in blazing sunshine #factor500 #swelter #redfaces pic.twitter.com/zMvbXgvmKV
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The pound has gone up this morning on the back for polls showing Remain ahead, the Press Association reports.The pound has gone up this morning on the back for polls showing Remain ahead, the Press Association reports.
Sterling has surged against the dollar and the euro after fresh polls put the Remain camp in the lead ahead of the EU referendum.Sterling has surged against the dollar and the euro after fresh polls put the Remain camp in the lead ahead of the EU referendum.
The value of the pound rose more than 1% against the dollar at 1.46, and it was up 0.9% against the euro at 1.283.The value of the pound rose more than 1% against the dollar at 1.46, and it was up 0.9% against the euro at 1.283.
The swing away from the three-week low against the dollar seen on Monday came after support for staying in the EU was given a one-point lead in an online YouGov survey for The Times, and a telephone poll by ORB for the Daily Telegraph.The swing away from the three-week low against the dollar seen on Monday came after support for staying in the EU was given a one-point lead in an online YouGov survey for The Times, and a telephone poll by ORB for the Daily Telegraph.
However, some analysts have questioned whether the currency movement could have been partly caused by a “fat finger trade” - an order to buy or sell which is larger than intended.However, some analysts have questioned whether the currency movement could have been partly caused by a “fat finger trade” - an order to buy or sell which is larger than intended.
Senior market analyst Craig Erlam, at OandA, said: “The two polls overnight have lent support to the pound early in today’s session, although the spike from around 1.4480 to 1.4640 shortly after 5am in the UK has been attributed to a fat finger trade.”Senior market analyst Craig Erlam, at OandA, said: “The two polls overnight have lent support to the pound early in today’s session, although the spike from around 1.4480 to 1.4640 shortly after 5am in the UK has been attributed to a fat finger trade.”
A fat finger trade is a mistake, someone hitting the wrong keyboard (or a typo as we call it in my line of work.)A fat finger trade is a mistake, someone hitting the wrong keyboard (or a typo as we call it in my line of work.)
11.06am BST11.06am BST
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David Cameron has picked an interesting spot for his press conference this morning. Enemy territory? #EUref pic.twitter.com/nb3yWBKcAKDavid Cameron has picked an interesting spot for his press conference this morning. Enemy territory? #EUref pic.twitter.com/nb3yWBKcAK
11.03am BST11.03am BST
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Leave campaigners have sent some chickens to picket the Cameron event.Leave campaigners have sent some chickens to picket the Cameron event.
That’s a reference to David Cameron not debating directly with Nigel Farage tonight, I presume.That’s a reference to David Cameron not debating directly with Nigel Farage tonight, I presume.
We've been sent to the Johnson Roof Terrace for Cameron speech on EU referendum.How apt pic.twitter.com/g51RlUzVV3We've been sent to the Johnson Roof Terrace for Cameron speech on EU referendum.How apt pic.twitter.com/g51RlUzVV3
Cameron about to hold a press conference. Some @vote_leave chickens outside. Presumably referring to @itv programme (not debate) tonightCameron about to hold a press conference. Some @vote_leave chickens outside. Presumably referring to @itv programme (not debate) tonight
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David Cameron's press conferenceDavid Cameron's press conference
David Cameron’s press conference is due to start shortly.David Cameron’s press conference is due to start shortly.
Decent backdrop for the PM's surprise press conference ... pic.twitter.com/RVYa5wxBwjDecent backdrop for the PM's surprise press conference ... pic.twitter.com/RVYa5wxBwj
Not too shabby a location for PM's press conference this morning pic.twitter.com/QD7CxIno2WNot too shabby a location for PM's press conference this morning pic.twitter.com/QD7CxIno2W
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My colleague Peter Walker has tweeted a picture of the latest Remain poster.My colleague Peter Walker has tweeted a picture of the latest Remain poster.
The Remain campaign's latest, entirely non-fear based and positive message to voters about Brexit pic.twitter.com/f4ucFmYNKlThe Remain campaign's latest, entirely non-fear based and positive message to voters about Brexit pic.twitter.com/f4ucFmYNKl
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Dominic Raab, the justice minister and Brexit campaigner, was on the Today programme talking about Vote Leave’s claim that EU rules are preventing the deportation of foreign criminals. When it was put to him that leaving the EU would mean that the UK could no longer use the European arrest warrant to extradite people (Lord Mandelson’s point - see 9.17am,), he said that David Anderson, the government’s independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, has said he would expect extradition arrangements to continue in the event of Brexit.Dominic Raab, the justice minister and Brexit campaigner, was on the Today programme talking about Vote Leave’s claim that EU rules are preventing the deportation of foreign criminals. When it was put to him that leaving the EU would mean that the UK could no longer use the European arrest warrant to extradite people (Lord Mandelson’s point - see 9.17am,), he said that David Anderson, the government’s independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, has said he would expect extradition arrangements to continue in the event of Brexit.
Anderson has taken to Twitter this morning asking Vote Leave not to quote him selectively. He thinks the UK will be safer remaining in the EU, he says.Anderson has taken to Twitter this morning asking Vote Leave not to quote him selectively. He thinks the UK will be safer remaining in the EU, he says.
To those in the Leave campaign selectively quoting me, I am clear (for the record) that we are safer in: https://t.co/LUWyRQKPBj.To those in the Leave campaign selectively quoting me, I am clear (for the record) that we are safer in: https://t.co/LUWyRQKPBj.
The Vote Leave briefing explains in detail why EU law makes it hard for the UK to deport EU criminals after they have finished their jail sentences. It says:The Vote Leave briefing explains in detail why EU law makes it hard for the UK to deport EU criminals after they have finished their jail sentences. It says:
The home secretary has the power to deport foreign nationals from the UK if she considers that it would ‘be conducive to the public good’ (Immigration Act 1971, s. 3(5)(a). In addition, UK law provides that a person who is (a) convicted of a serious crime and sentenced to imprisonment or (b) is sentenced to more than twelve months’ imprisonment, is subject to automatic deportation (UK Borders Act 2007, s. 32). However, this has no application where deportation ‘would breach rights of the foreign criminal under the EU treaties’ (UK Borders Act 2007, s. 33(4)).The home secretary has the power to deport foreign nationals from the UK if she considers that it would ‘be conducive to the public good’ (Immigration Act 1971, s. 3(5)(a). In addition, UK law provides that a person who is (a) convicted of a serious crime and sentenced to imprisonment or (b) is sentenced to more than twelve months’ imprisonment, is subject to automatic deportation (UK Borders Act 2007, s. 32). However, this has no application where deportation ‘would breach rights of the foreign criminal under the EU treaties’ (UK Borders Act 2007, s. 33(4)).
This means that those with a right of residence in the UK under EU law are subject to a much weaker system. As Mr Justice McCloskey has said, EU foreign national offenders fall under ‘an entirely different régime from that which applies to other immigrants’ (Homb v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2014] UKAITUR IA202952012). EU law ‘purposefully make[s] it difficult to remove a person from the jurisdiction’, even if they are a criminal (Secretary of State for the Home Department v Juocys [2013] UKAITUR DA005632013).This means that those with a right of residence in the UK under EU law are subject to a much weaker system. As Mr Justice McCloskey has said, EU foreign national offenders fall under ‘an entirely different régime from that which applies to other immigrants’ (Homb v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2014] UKAITUR IA202952012). EU law ‘purposefully make[s] it difficult to remove a person from the jurisdiction’, even if they are a criminal (Secretary of State for the Home Department v Juocys [2013] UKAITUR DA005632013).
The Vote Leave briefing also says the 2004 free movement directive says a criminal conviction alone does not constitute grounds for deporting someone. It also says that EU citizens who have lived in the UK for more than five years may only be removed on “serious grounds of public policy and public security” and that EU citizens who have been here for 10 years can only be removed “on imperative grounds of public security”.The Vote Leave briefing also says the 2004 free movement directive says a criminal conviction alone does not constitute grounds for deporting someone. It also says that EU citizens who have lived in the UK for more than five years may only be removed on “serious grounds of public policy and public security” and that EU citizens who have been here for 10 years can only be removed “on imperative grounds of public security”.
Raab told the Today programme that, because of these rules, the government was able to remove eight times as many non-EU nationals as EU nationals.Raab told the Today programme that, because of these rules, the government was able to remove eight times as many non-EU nationals as EU nationals.
10.32am BST10.32am BST
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At the Labour poster launch earlier Jeremy Corbyn made a last-minute plea to young people to register to vote. The deadline is tonight. He said:At the Labour poster launch earlier Jeremy Corbyn made a last-minute plea to young people to register to vote. The deadline is tonight. He said:
Today is the last day to register to vote in the referendum and I urge anyone who is listening or watching us today to just remember they have a chance to register today - they can do it online, it means they will be able to vote and take part.Today is the last day to register to vote in the referendum and I urge anyone who is listening or watching us today to just remember they have a chance to register today - they can do it online, it means they will be able to vote and take part.
Many young people are still not registered. I hope they will take the advantage of using a smartphone or a computer and getting their names on the register to be able to take part in what will be a very important decision.Many young people are still not registered. I hope they will take the advantage of using a smartphone or a computer and getting their names on the register to be able to take part in what will be a very important decision.
10.28am BST10.28am BST
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Cameron to hold a press conferenceCameron to hold a press conference
David Cameron is holding a Britain Stronger in Europe press conference this morning.David Cameron is holding a Britain Stronger in Europe press conference this morning.
Big day - Cameron - Farage in front of same audience tonight, and on way to last min number 10 press conference this morningBig day - Cameron - Farage in front of same audience tonight, and on way to last min number 10 press conference this morning
We don’t know yet what he plans to say, but from what his aides are hinting, it sounds as if he is not just inviting journalists in for a pleasant chat.We don’t know yet what he plans to say, but from what his aides are hinting, it sounds as if he is not just inviting journalists in for a pleasant chat.
(Proper prime ministerial press conferences in London are about as rare now as solar eclipses. Cameron always holds one at the end of every EU summit in Brussels, and he holds press conferences when some foreign leaders visit, which are often limited to two questions for the British press. After speeches he will normally take two or three questions from journalists. But a proper press conference is different, because it allows for sustained questioning.)(Proper prime ministerial press conferences in London are about as rare now as solar eclipses. Cameron always holds one at the end of every EU summit in Brussels, and he holds press conferences when some foreign leaders visit, which are often limited to two questions for the British press. After speeches he will normally take two or three questions from journalists. But a proper press conference is different, because it allows for sustained questioning.)
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Carolyn Fairbairn, the CBI director general, has been delivering a speech on the EU this morning. She said that the business consensus was in favour of remaining in the single market and that that was because of the single market.Carolyn Fairbairn, the CBI director general, has been delivering a speech on the EU this morning. She said that the business consensus was in favour of remaining in the single market and that that was because of the single market.
The business consensus is for the UK to remain inside the EU. Ask me to give you the top reason by a country mile and I’d give you two words - single market.The business consensus is for the UK to remain inside the EU. Ask me to give you the top reason by a country mile and I’d give you two words - single market.
500 million citizens, 28 member states, one set of rules. The largest free trade zone in the world with access to 53 other trade deals around the world.500 million citizens, 28 member states, one set of rules. The largest free trade zone in the world with access to 53 other trade deals around the world.
As a country, we created the single market, we’re shaping it. And – if we remain – we will help decide where it goes next.As a country, we created the single market, we’re shaping it. And – if we remain – we will help decide where it goes next.
She also said the expansion of the EU digital single market offered huge opportunities to British firms.She also said the expansion of the EU digital single market offered huge opportunities to British firms.
When it comes to e-commerce, the UK is the best in the world. There aren’t many countries where you can order groceries online today, and have them on your doorstep tomorrow.When it comes to e-commerce, the UK is the best in the world. There aren’t many countries where you can order groceries online today, and have them on your doorstep tomorrow.
And European e-commerce is growing fast. We might call a country growing at 6-7% a year ‘high growth’. Well, European e-commerce is growing by three times that, at 18% a year.And European e-commerce is growing fast. We might call a country growing at 6-7% a year ‘high growth’. Well, European e-commerce is growing by three times that, at 18% a year.
Yet despite all our expertise and all this opportunity – today just one in 14 UK retailers sells online elsewhere in the EU. Setting a single set of rules – and creating a truly digital single market – would be a massive coup for thousands of British businesses.Yet despite all our expertise and all this opportunity – today just one in 14 UK retailers sells online elsewhere in the EU. Setting a single set of rules – and creating a truly digital single market – would be a massive coup for thousands of British businesses.
From big retailers to entrepreneurs selling out of their spare rooms, 450m new customers would be just a click away. And it is within reach if we remain in the EU.From big retailers to entrepreneurs selling out of their spare rooms, 450m new customers would be just a click away. And it is within reach if we remain in the EU.
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What UK Thinks, the specialist polling website, has updated its poll of polls on the EU referendum.What UK Thinks, the specialist polling website, has updated its poll of polls on the EU referendum.
Here is the Financial Times’s Brexit poll tracker (which compiles a poll of polls in a slightly different way, and does not seem to have been updated since Sunday.)Here is the Financial Times’s Brexit poll tracker (which compiles a poll of polls in a slightly different way, and does not seem to have been updated since Sunday.)
And here’s the Bloomberg Brexit tracker.And here’s the Bloomberg Brexit tracker.
9.54am BST9.54am BST
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Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, has been launching a new EU referendum poster this morning.Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, has been launching a new EU referendum poster this morning.
We've just launched our new #LabourIn advert about the workers' rights we've secured through membership of the EU pic.twitter.com/B0Mj6SR3wiWe've just launched our new #LabourIn advert about the workers' rights we've secured through membership of the EU pic.twitter.com/B0Mj6SR3wi
These are from the BBC’s Norman Smith.These are from the BBC’s Norman Smith.
Labours Tom Watson says its up to individual Labour MPs to decide whether to campaign alongside David CameronLabours Tom Watson says its up to individual Labour MPs to decide whether to campaign alongside David Cameron
Tom Watson says he wd not campaign with Cameron in #EurefTom Watson says he wd not campaign with Cameron in #Euref
At one point Tom Watson, the deputy Labour leader, burst into song.At one point Tom Watson, the deputy Labour leader, burst into song.
.@tom_watson just started singing Holding Back The Years. Actually true. pic.twitter.com/x5vkhQFA2K.@tom_watson just started singing Holding Back The Years. Actually true. pic.twitter.com/x5vkhQFA2K
Channel 4 News’ Michael Crick thinks Watson’s choice was not particularly appropriate.Channel 4 News’ Michael Crick thinks Watson’s choice was not particularly appropriate.
Oh dear. Tom Watson sings Simply Red at today's Labour event. Yesterday @mjhucknall called Corbyn "spineless coward" pic.twitter.com/jyV1naVsy8Oh dear. Tom Watson sings Simply Red at today's Labour event. Yesterday @mjhucknall called Corbyn "spineless coward" pic.twitter.com/jyV1naVsy8