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Oscar Pistorius sentencing: witness says more prison would have 'detrimental effect' – live Oscar Pistorius sentencing: witness says more prison would have 'detrimental effect' – live
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#OscarPistorius Nel turns to the report Scholtz gave to the court - Nel asks why the report didn't include a report by prison psychologist?
Scholtz says he did read that report, but he “didn’t deem it necessary” to refer to it in his own report.
Nel: I know why.
He reads from the report, which says Pistorius was “verbally violent and aggressive” towards staff in prison.
Scholtz says he thought it was a “poor report”. He says Pistorius was going through an “adaptation” of being incarcerated.
Nel: I find your answers to be totally biased to the accused. They are not objective.
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Do you think you can be objective, Nel asks Scholtz. Are you able to put all factors before the court, positive and negative? Scholtz says yes, he can be objective.
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Having gone through a trial would cause depression, wouldn’t it, Nel asks Scholtz.
The doctor agrees that it would exacerbate depression. He says there is no “easy fix”, it could take years for his condition to improve.
Scholtz: There is consistent adversity. The trial isn’t finished, he doesn’t know where he stands.
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Nel wants to know about Pistorius’ current medications.
Scholtz says yes, for depression, anxiety and insomnia, prescribed by his own psychiatrist, Dr Bosch.
You’re of the opinion that Pistorius needs to be hospitalised, Nel says – don’t you think you should have mentioned this to the psychiatrist?
Scholtz said he mentioned it to Bosch and to the defence.
Did Bosch or the defence counsel do anything, Nel wants to know.
No, Scholtz says.
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Court resumes
Judge Masipa arrives and the hearing begins again.
Gerrie Nel requested this lengthy break in order to consult with prosecution experts about the report by psychologist Dr Jonathan Scholtz, a witness appearing for the defence.
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Oscar Pistorius, who left the courtroom during the break, is now heading back. The hearing is due to resume in around 20 minutes.
#OscarPistorius walking back to court.@MarykeVermaak pic.twitter.com/KfNJHVRtPH
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What we've learned so farWhat we've learned so far
Claire PhippsClaire Phipps
The court has now taken a break until 2.30pm local time (12.30pm GMT) to allow the state to consult its own experts on the contents of the defence psychiatric report.The court has now taken a break until 2.30pm local time (12.30pm GMT) to allow the state to consult its own experts on the contents of the defence psychiatric report.
Here’s what we’ve heard so far in this first morning of Oscar Pistorius’ sentencing hearing for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp:Here’s what we’ve heard so far in this first morning of Oscar Pistorius’ sentencing hearing for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp:
First defence witnessFirst defence witness
Further imprisonment would have a detrimental effect on him.Further imprisonment would have a detrimental effect on him.
[It] would not be psychologically or socially constructive.[It] would not be psychologically or socially constructive.
Mr Pistorius would be better served … if he gave back in a positive and constructive way, using his skills.Mr Pistorius would be better served … if he gave back in a positive and constructive way, using his skills.
I don’t think he is able to be a witness in this trial: his condition is severe.I don’t think he is able to be a witness in this trial: his condition is severe.
Cross-examinationCross-examination
Nel: Did Mr Pistorius indicate to you that he intentionally shot at the door knowing there was a person in the bathroom?Nel: Did Mr Pistorius indicate to you that he intentionally shot at the door knowing there was a person in the bathroom?
Scholtz: Yes …Scholtz: Yes …
Nel: That’s the first version of him intentionally shooting at the person that we’ve had in this court.Nel: That’s the first version of him intentionally shooting at the person that we’ve had in this court.
I’ll be back with further live updates when the court resumes.I’ll be back with further live updates when the court resumes.
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Nel says he would like the court to take a break so his own experts can look at Scholtz’s report.Nel says he would like the court to take a break so his own experts can look at Scholtz’s report.
He asks for the court to adjourn until 2.30pm.He asks for the court to adjourn until 2.30pm.
The court takes a break.The court takes a break.
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Nel turns to the claim warders brought visitors to peer at him in his cell.Scholtz says happened twice that he knew, they'd switch on lightsNel turns to the claim warders brought visitors to peer at him in his cell.Scholtz says happened twice that he knew, they'd switch on lights
This did happen, Nel says. It happens to all inmates, when inspectors come to the prison.This did happen, Nel says. It happens to all inmates, when inspectors come to the prison.
That is not the context here, says Scholtz.That is not the context here, says Scholtz.
#OscarPistorius Scholtz: it was either family or friends of the warders and they were shown “there is Oscar”. BB#OscarPistorius Scholtz: it was either family or friends of the warders and they were shown “there is Oscar”. BB
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Nel cites Scholtz’s earlier testimony that while in prison, Pistorius overheard an inmate being raped and later saw that the man had hanged himself.Nel cites Scholtz’s earlier testimony that while in prison, Pistorius overheard an inmate being raped and later saw that the man had hanged himself.
Nel: That did not happen … Perhaps if Mr Pistorius was here [on the stand] he could have testified to that.Nel: That did not happen … Perhaps if Mr Pistorius was here [on the stand] he could have testified to that.
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Nel says Pistorius complained a lot in prison.Nel says Pistorius complained a lot in prison.
It’s a different thing to complain about being assaulted, in a place where that shouldn’t happen, than to complain about having “no soap”, Scholtz argues.It’s a different thing to complain about being assaulted, in a place where that shouldn’t happen, than to complain about having “no soap”, Scholtz argues.
Pistorius had access to an open courtyard, Nel points out, but the doctor says he was often too afraid to use it, “something might happen to him there”.Pistorius had access to an open courtyard, Nel points out, but the doctor says he was often too afraid to use it, “something might happen to him there”.
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Defence witness: Pistorius 'assaulted in prison'Defence witness: Pistorius 'assaulted in prison'
Nel turns to Pistorius’ period of imprisonment. He was not confined to his cell, Nel says, contrary to Scholtz’s report.Nel turns to Pistorius’ period of imprisonment. He was not confined to his cell, Nel says, contrary to Scholtz’s report.
Scholtz says his understanding is that he was confined “most days” for up to 18 hours a day.Scholtz says his understanding is that he was confined “most days” for up to 18 hours a day.
Nel says his cell was open during the day and he could move around the section he was held on. Scholtz says he was too fearful to leave his bed:Nel says his cell was open during the day and he could move around the section he was held on. Scholtz says he was too fearful to leave his bed:
He had fear because someone did through into his section and assaulted him there. He had fear because someone did go through into his section and assaulted him there.
It’s not true, Nel says. He didn’t report this. It’s a lie, he says.It’s not true, Nel says. He didn’t report this. It’s a lie, he says.
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Nel: Your report deals with the accused and what’s best for the accused.Nel: Your report deals with the accused and what’s best for the accused.
It doesn’t take other factors into account.It doesn’t take other factors into account.
I just find it peculiar that you place a lot of emphasis [on] the negative media as a factor that impacts on the accused … You indicate that ‘his children may in future search the internet and find negative report of the trial’. Don’t you think the fact the father murdered somebody is more significant than negative reports?I just find it peculiar that you place a lot of emphasis [on] the negative media as a factor that impacts on the accused … You indicate that ‘his children may in future search the internet and find negative report of the trial’. Don’t you think the fact the father murdered somebody is more significant than negative reports?
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Nel turns to the money paid by Pistorius to the Steenkamp family: R6,500 a month, which continued for about 17 months. He doesn’t want that back, Scholtz says.Nel turns to the money paid by Pistorius to the Steenkamp family: R6,500 a month, which continued for about 17 months. He doesn’t want that back, Scholtz says.
The prosecutor says the R6,500 was viewed as part payment for a civil claim “by all parties concerned” and was meant to be kept confidential:The prosecutor says the R6,500 was viewed as part payment for a civil claim “by all parties concerned” and was meant to be kept confidential:
It then came out in the trial from the accused’s side.It then came out in the trial from the accused’s side.
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June Steenkamp has said Pistorius’ apology in court left her “unmoved”, Nel tells Scholtz.June Steenkamp has said Pistorius’ apology in court left her “unmoved”, Nel tells Scholtz.
Scholtz says he understands that Pistorius did try to contact Steenkamp’s family directly after her death.Scholtz says he understands that Pistorius did try to contact Steenkamp’s family directly after her death.
Did he try to contact them after he left prison, Nel asks. No, says Scholtz.Did he try to contact them after he left prison, Nel asks. No, says Scholtz.
Nel says that would have been a good opportunity to do so.Nel says that would have been a good opportunity to do so.
Scholtz says Pistorius thought he might do so “at a later stage”.Scholtz says Pistorius thought he might do so “at a later stage”.
Nel says there was an attempt by Pistorius to meet the family – in April, during preparations for the sentencing arguments.Nel says there was an attempt by Pistorius to meet the family – in April, during preparations for the sentencing arguments.
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Judge Masipa intervenes: the state wants to know what Pistorius told the doctor, not what the doctor understands from the court judgment.Judge Masipa intervenes: the state wants to know what Pistorius told the doctor, not what the doctor understands from the court judgment.
She allows the question.She allows the question.
Nel: Did Mr Pistorius indicate to you that he intentionally shot at the door knowing there was a person in the bathroom?Nel: Did Mr Pistorius indicate to you that he intentionally shot at the door knowing there was a person in the bathroom?
Scholtz says yes, he did.Scholtz says yes, he did.
Nel says that would be the first admission by Pistorius. He says he doesn’t accept it.Nel says that would be the first admission by Pistorius. He says he doesn’t accept it.
That’s the first version of him intentionally shooting at the person that we’ve had in this court.That’s the first version of him intentionally shooting at the person that we’ve had in this court.
Nel says he would have liked to have been able to question Pistorius on this admission.Nel says he would have liked to have been able to question Pistorius on this admission.