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EU referendum: vote could go either way, says Jeremy Corbyn – live | |
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Rowena Mason | |
The Guardian’s Rowena Mason has filed a report on the resignation of a Vote Leave board member after it emerged that she promoted anti-Muslim material on social media, including an image of a white girl in the middle of a group of people wearing burqas saying: “Britain 2050: why didn’t you stop them Grandad?” | |
Arabella Arkwright, a businesswoman who sat on the board and finance committee of Vote Leave, stepped down after the Guardian asked her about a series of tweets and retweets from her account. | |
Other retweets included a link from Tommy Robinson, the founder of the English Defence League, suggesting UK Muslims were trying to build an Islamic state in Britain. | |
Another retweet came in response to a Twitter user saying they would never eat tikka masala again if it “got seventh-century barbaric savagery” out of Britain. A reply from Arkwright’s account said: “No to sharia law. By by [sic] tikka masala .” | |
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The Leave supporting Labour MP, Kate Hoey, tells Sky that the performance was “typical Jeremy” - engaging with an audience in a very agreeable way. | |
She says that she welcomes the fact that he made it clear that he does not love the EU. | |
“I didn’t feel any passion for the EU from him,” she adds | |
What was more important for her was that, “whatever happens”, Corbyn will still be fighting for the things he believes in as leader of the Labour Party. | |
7.14pm BST | |
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Now to reaction to Corbyn’s performance. Toby Young, a Leave supporter, is one of a number of people are picking up on his warning that there would be a “bonfire of regulations” | |
Corbyn’s “bonfire of workers’ rights” argument shows a lack of faith in the British people. We don’t need the EU to preserve those rights. | |
On the other hand... | |
Genuinely think this has been one of Corbyn's best media appearances to date. Measured, thoughtful, engaged with audience. Very good stuff | |
Back at the Sky event Faisal Islam canvasses opinion from the audience. | |
“I think he made a passionate case to remain but the most important thing is that he said the EU is not perfect, though the solution is to remain,” says one man, who remains a Remain voter. | |
An Outer meanwhile wasn’t convinced by Corbyn’s insistence that he’s not a member of the establishment, saying that if the leader of the opposition isn’t part of the establishment then she doesn’t know who is. | |
7.01pm BST | |
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There’s time for one last question, which shifts back to more comfortable ground for Corbyn. We’re in the middle of a housing crisis, says the questioner, who asks if being in the EU is “propping up that crisis”. | |
Corbyn says that the real answer is to chase down the tax avoiders and tax evaders, some of whom are in Europe and some of whom are in the Cayman Islands. | |
But secondly, says the Labour leader, it’s crucial to challenge the British government on their failure to build social housing and for allowing ‘social cleansing’. | |
“We can must and will conquer the housing crisis for people who need housing, rather than those who see it as investment opportunities.” | |
6.58pm BST | |
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Corbyn says he is not a “lover of the European Union”, but as rational decision believes that it’s better to stay and fight for better regulations when it comes to issues such as environmental protection. | |
It’s a line which strike Islam as being quite significant - he repeats it back to Corbyn - and may well be one of the more memorable moments from this. | |
Corbyn follows up in a dialogue with a man in the audience who asks if he will “shoulder the blame” if there is a pro-Brexit vote. | |
“I am not going to take blame for people’s decisions,” says Corbyn, who says that there will be a decision made on Thursday. He’s hoping that there will be a remain vote but adds that there may well be a Leave vote | |
“Whatever the result we have got to work with it,” he tells the audience. The man in the audience who who asked that questions says the the Labour leader “doesn’t sound convinced”. | |
Corbyn insists that he is committed to backing a Remain vote, before adding: “Whatever the result I want to see better working conditions across Europe.” | |
Islam asks: “So it’s immaterial one way or the other?” Corbyn disagrees. | |
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An audience member follows up on the same topic, pleading for restrictions on workers coming into the UK and taking jobs which they are less qualified for than domestic workers. | An audience member follows up on the same topic, pleading for restrictions on workers coming into the UK and taking jobs which they are less qualified for than domestic workers. |
“If you restrict free movement of labour across Europe then you are defeating the whole point of the common market,” says Corbyn, who suggests that there would possibly be some sort of retribution for British people working in Europe. | “If you restrict free movement of labour across Europe then you are defeating the whole point of the common market,” says Corbyn, who suggests that there would possibly be some sort of retribution for British people working in Europe. |
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Ryan Scott comes forward with a question: How would his party protect those lower paid Britons who lose out because others are prepared to come and work for much less in the UK? | Ryan Scott comes forward with a question: How would his party protect those lower paid Britons who lose out because others are prepared to come and work for much less in the UK? |
Corbyn responds: By ensuring that local rates are respected, that the living wage becomes a reality and to ensure that there is lower levels of disparity. | Corbyn responds: By ensuring that local rates are respected, that the living wage becomes a reality and to ensure that there is lower levels of disparity. |
“It’s complicated, not easy,” he says, saying that companies have exploited migrant workers who are here. A higher minimum wage is important, as well as much more controls on the way that companies behave. | “It’s complicated, not easy,” he says, saying that companies have exploited migrant workers who are here. A higher minimum wage is important, as well as much more controls on the way that companies behave. |
Corbyn instances Mike Ashley, the owner of Sports direct, and the number of people working there on zero hours contracts. One of this proposals is to work with other EU states who have actually banned zero hour contracts. | Corbyn instances Mike Ashley, the owner of Sports direct, and the number of people working there on zero hours contracts. One of this proposals is to work with other EU states who have actually banned zero hour contracts. |
It’s moving at a fairly swift pace now so apologies for missing out on a few questions. | It’s moving at a fairly swift pace now so apologies for missing out on a few questions. |
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A man called Jordan picks up on the checks which Corbyn has talked about, questioning how people are coming into the UK “inside lorries”. | A man called Jordan picks up on the checks which Corbyn has talked about, questioning how people are coming into the UK “inside lorries”. |
Corbyn tells him that the point applies when people actually apply for refugee status, instancing the example of Afghans who worked as translators in their country and then came to the UK illegally. | Corbyn tells him that the point applies when people actually apply for refugee status, instancing the example of Afghans who worked as translators in their country and then came to the UK illegally. |
He adds: “There’s something strange that is going on at the moment. Hundreds of people have died trying to cross the mediterranean. Has it had headline coverage day after day...? No, it has had minimal coverage.” | He adds: “There’s something strange that is going on at the moment. Hundreds of people have died trying to cross the mediterranean. Has it had headline coverage day after day...? No, it has had minimal coverage.” |
That’s claim which, I think, would be largely contested by many journalists working for organisations such as the Guardian, the BBC and others. | That’s claim which, I think, would be largely contested by many journalists working for organisations such as the Guardian, the BBC and others. |
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The questioning has move on to the refugee crisis. Corbyn says he believes that the approach to the crisis by Britain and the EU has been appalling. | The questioning has move on to the refugee crisis. Corbyn says he believes that the approach to the crisis by Britain and the EU has been appalling. |
“We are not going to solve this crisis with barbed wire and CS gas. What we need is humanity and a political solution in Syria,” the Labour leader tells the audience. | |
He also attacks the “bigoted response” to THAT poster, prompting applause from some in the audience. | He also attacks the “bigoted response” to THAT poster, prompting applause from some in the audience. |
Corbyn follows up by making the case to remain inside the EU however, saying: “If there was no EU and instead you had 27 member states - would there be any coordinated response.. probably not” | Corbyn follows up by making the case to remain inside the EU however, saying: “If there was no EU and instead you had 27 member states - would there be any coordinated response.. probably not” |
There’s scepticism from a man called Matthew who says there is not adequate checks on the people coming trough with genuine refugees. Corbyn tells him that getting refugee status is very difficult: “The idea that you can just walk into a country and get refugee status is far far from the reality.” | There’s scepticism from a man called Matthew who says there is not adequate checks on the people coming trough with genuine refugees. Corbyn tells him that getting refugee status is very difficult: “The idea that you can just walk into a country and get refugee status is far far from the reality.” |
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We’re on to a question now about TTIP and it comes from Daniel Chipeta, who is a student social worker. He asks what is the motivation for remaining in an organisation which promotes TTIP and “sustained inequalities in our society? | We’re on to a question now about TTIP and it comes from Daniel Chipeta, who is a student social worker. He asks what is the motivation for remaining in an organisation which promotes TTIP and “sustained inequalities in our society? |
Comfortable ground for Corbyn in some ways, who has put his opposition to the trans atlantic deal on the record very firmly. This is not at odds with his “practical” support for the EU. | Comfortable ground for Corbyn in some ways, who has put his opposition to the trans atlantic deal on the record very firmly. This is not at odds with his “practical” support for the EU. |
He says there is every chance that it will not see the light of day and follows up by saying that he believes that working inside Europe on a market which would continue to allow the UK to trade inside Europe with the states it enjoys most of its historical trading links with is crucial. | He says there is every chance that it will not see the light of day and follows up by saying that he believes that working inside Europe on a market which would continue to allow the UK to trade inside Europe with the states it enjoys most of its historical trading links with is crucial. |
“If we came out of the EU, a government led by the main people leading the Leave campaign would sign a TTIP as soon as they could,” he adds, in what is perhaps one of his more effective soundbites so far. | “If we came out of the EU, a government led by the main people leading the Leave campaign would sign a TTIP as soon as they could,” he adds, in what is perhaps one of his more effective soundbites so far. |