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Britain loses Triple-A credit rating after Brexit vote – business live | Britain loses Triple-A credit rating after Brexit vote – business live |
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Britain’s Brexit crisis is going to dominate tomorrow’s papers. | |
The Financial Times’ front page has just landed, focusing on the heavy losses on the stock markets and the pound’s drop to a 31-year low. | |
Tuesday's FT:Sterling and bank stocks hammered as Cameron seeks to calm markets#Tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/kTDrhyiYPi | |
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The FT’s economics editor, Chris Giles, says S&P’s downgrade is a cause for serious concern: | |
S&P no longer see UK institutions as a strength. Cuts credit rating TWO notches. Worse than financial crisis | |
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Shares are still falling in New York, with 30 minutes trading today. | |
BREAKING: U.S. markets tumble to new session lows, Dow now down 335+ points, S&P down 2.2% https://t.co/u7XNvdBsax pic.twitter.com/vMeOUsbPLk | |
Financial stocks are among the big fallers, as in Europe today. | |
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It’s been a really dramatic day in the financial world; here’s our updated news story: | It’s been a really dramatic day in the financial world; here’s our updated news story: |
Related: UK loses triple-A credit rating after Brexit vote | Related: UK loses triple-A credit rating after Brexit vote |
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The scale of S&P’s downgrade tonight is unprecedented, says Reuters’ Jamie McGeever, showing the full impact of Brexit. | The scale of S&P’s downgrade tonight is unprecedented, says Reuters’ Jamie McGeever, showing the full impact of Brexit. |
Britain's downgrade by S&P today was historic - the first time the ratings agency has ever cut a AAA sovereign rating by two notches. | Britain's downgrade by S&P today was historic - the first time the ratings agency has ever cut a AAA sovereign rating by two notches. |
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Back in 2012, the LabourList website gathered together George Osborne’s various warnings about the need to keep the AAA rating. | Back in 2012, the LabourList website gathered together George Osborne’s various warnings about the need to keep the AAA rating. |
For example, in 2009, he declared: | For example, in 2009, he declared: |
“I have argued it with my opponents in difficult economic times, when I warned them last autumn that the cupboard was bare and the discretionary borrowing had to stop – and now Britain faces the humiliating possibility of losing its international credit rating. | “I have argued it with my opponents in difficult economic times, when I warned them last autumn that the cupboard was bare and the discretionary borrowing had to stop – and now Britain faces the humiliating possibility of losing its international credit rating. |
Here’s the full list: Some things George Osborne has said about the AAA credit rating | Here’s the full list: Some things George Osborne has said about the AAA credit rating |
All good clean fun. But in the chancellor’s defense, he did warn the public not to vote for Brexit.... | All good clean fun. But in the chancellor’s defense, he did warn the public not to vote for Brexit.... |
This must be about the first time in history a finance minister might actually think himself vindicated by a credit rating downgrade | This must be about the first time in history a finance minister might actually think himself vindicated by a credit rating downgrade |
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S&P held back the downgrade until the London stock market had closed, so the City hasn’t had chance to react yet. | S&P held back the downgrade until the London stock market had closed, so the City hasn’t had chance to react yet. |
But over in New York, shares are falling deeper into the red on Wall Street. | But over in New York, shares are falling deeper into the red on Wall Street. |
The Dow Jones industrial average has now shed 306 points, a fall of 1.75% today, on top of the 611 points shed during Friday’s tumble. | The Dow Jones industrial average has now shed 306 points, a fall of 1.75% today, on top of the 611 points shed during Friday’s tumble. |
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Former Liberal Democrat leader Paddy Ashdown fears that Britain will eventually have to pay more to borrow, due to S&P’s downgrade: | Former Liberal Democrat leader Paddy Ashdown fears that Britain will eventually have to pay more to borrow, due to S&P’s downgrade: |
UK credit rating down. Cost of UK debt up. 0.5% on £470 bn debt = £22 Bn. 2X our EU contribution to international money men. Taking control? | UK credit rating down. Cost of UK debt up. 0.5% on £470 bn debt = £22 Bn. 2X our EU contribution to international money men. Taking control? |
A lower credit rating would only affect the cost of new debt, of course, not the existing borrowing. | A lower credit rating would only affect the cost of new debt, of course, not the existing borrowing. |
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S&P downgrades Britain - the key points | S&P downgrades Britain - the key points |
Britain lost her top-notch credit rating almost exactly 12 hours after chancellor George Osborne claimed that Britain’s economy was in decent shape to face the uncertainty caused by the Brexit vote. | Britain lost her top-notch credit rating almost exactly 12 hours after chancellor George Osborne claimed that Britain’s economy was in decent shape to face the uncertainty caused by the Brexit vote. |
Here are the key reasons why S&P took this historic move: | Here are the key reasons why S&P took this historic move: |
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Corporate governance expert Lucy Marcus points out that some UK companies could now face higher borrowing costs, following S&P’s move. | Corporate governance expert Lucy Marcus points out that some UK companies could now face higher borrowing costs, following S&P’s move. |
This will have serious knock on effects for all UK based companies. https://t.co/lvOuo7zDQc | This will have serious knock on effects for all UK based companies. https://t.co/lvOuo7zDQc |
That’s because a company can’t have a higher credit rating than its own country [because sovereign states, and their central banks, are the lenders of last resort, in times of crisis] | That’s because a company can’t have a higher credit rating than its own country [because sovereign states, and their central banks, are the lenders of last resort, in times of crisis] |
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S&P’s two-notch downgrade comes hot on the heels of Moody’s, which downgraded the UK’s outlook to negative on Friday night. | S&P’s two-notch downgrade comes hot on the heels of Moody’s, which downgraded the UK’s outlook to negative on Friday night. |
Reuters’ Luke Baker points out that the agencies are moving with unusual speed: | Reuters’ Luke Baker points out that the agencies are moving with unusual speed: |
During eurozone debt crisis, S&P, Moody's and Fitch normally waited until Friday to issue downgrades. Monday and S&P moved on UK already | During eurozone debt crisis, S&P, Moody's and Fitch normally waited until Friday to issue downgrades. Monday and S&P moved on UK already |
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Losing the Triple-A credit rating might not have any immediate impact on Britain’s ability to borrow. | Losing the Triple-A credit rating might not have any immediate impact on Britain’s ability to borrow. |
That’s because worried investors have been keen to buy UK government bonds since the Brexit crisis erupted, driving borrowing costs down to record lows. | That’s because worried investors have been keen to buy UK government bonds since the Brexit crisis erupted, driving borrowing costs down to record lows. |
But it’s a humiliating moment for the government, which put ‘repairing the public finances’ at the heart of its strategy (not always successfully). | But it’s a humiliating moment for the government, which put ‘repairing the public finances’ at the heart of its strategy (not always successfully). |
Moody’s and Fitch both downgraded the UK in 2013. S&P maintained the AAA through the eurozone debt crisis, but has now lost the faith. | Moody’s and Fitch both downgraded the UK in 2013. S&P maintained the AAA through the eurozone debt crisis, but has now lost the faith. |
This government was totally obsessed with UK retaining its AAA rating after 2008 crash. So it holds EU vote & we lose it in two working days | This government was totally obsessed with UK retaining its AAA rating after 2008 crash. So it holds EU vote & we lose it in two working days |
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S&P: UK faces constitutional issues | S&P: UK faces constitutional issues |
S&P is also concerned that the future of the United Kingdom itself is at risk. | S&P is also concerned that the future of the United Kingdom itself is at risk. |
It says that the majority votes to remain within the EU from Scotland and Northern Ireland create “wider constitutional issues for the country as a whole.” | It says that the majority votes to remain within the EU from Scotland and Northern Ireland create “wider constitutional issues for the country as a whole.” |
S&P also cites "risks to the constitutional and economic integrity of the UK if there is another referendum on Scottish independence" | S&P also cites "risks to the constitutional and economic integrity of the UK if there is another referendum on Scottish independence" |
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S&P really hasn’t held back -- this is a TWO-NOTCH downgrade, from AAA to AA, completely bypassing the AA+ rating. | S&P really hasn’t held back -- this is a TWO-NOTCH downgrade, from AAA to AA, completely bypassing the AA+ rating. |
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Britain loses AAA credit rating | Britain loses AAA credit rating |
NEWSFLASH: Britain has just lost its last triple-A credit rating. | NEWSFLASH: Britain has just lost its last triple-A credit rating. |
Standard & Poor’s has downgraded the UK to AA, with a negative outlook, following the EU referendum decision. | Standard & Poor’s has downgraded the UK to AA, with a negative outlook, following the EU referendum decision. |
UK's last AAA rating gone: S&P cuts UK to AA, negative outlook | UK's last AAA rating gone: S&P cuts UK to AA, negative outlook |
S&P blames the Brexit vote, saying it has weakened the UK’s “predictability, stability and effectiveness” of policymaking in the UK. | S&P blames the Brexit vote, saying it has weakened the UK’s “predictability, stability and effectiveness” of policymaking in the UK. |
It also believes that growth will be ‘significantly lower’ between 2016 and 2019, with growth averaging just 1.1% per year. | It also believes that growth will be ‘significantly lower’ between 2016 and 2019, with growth averaging just 1.1% per year. |
S&P says: | S&P says: |
“In our opinion, this outcome is a seminal event, and will lead to a less predictable, stable, and effective policy framework in the U.K. We have reassessed our view of the U.K.’s institutional assessment and now no longer consider it a strength in our assessment of the rating.” | “In our opinion, this outcome is a seminal event, and will lead to a less predictable, stable, and effective policy framework in the U.K. We have reassessed our view of the U.K.’s institutional assessment and now no longer consider it a strength in our assessment of the rating.” |
S&P also warns that foreign firms are less likely to invest in the UK, while sterling could also lose its role as a global reserve currency. | S&P also warns that foreign firms are less likely to invest in the UK, while sterling could also lose its role as a global reserve currency. |
Reaction to follow...... | Reaction to follow...... |
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Economist: Worst crisis for UK economy since WW2 | Economist: Worst crisis for UK economy since WW2 |
George Osborne’s claim that Britain’s economy is well-positioned to ride out the crisis has been roundly dismissed by a former chief economist of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development. | George Osborne’s claim that Britain’s economy is well-positioned to ride out the crisis has been roundly dismissed by a former chief economist of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development. |
The FT has the details: | The FT has the details: |
John Llewellyn, founder of Llewellyn consulting and a former chief economist of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, said the UK was heading into recession at a time when its economy was not fixed and the BoE appeared to be the only functioning authority. | John Llewellyn, founder of Llewellyn consulting and a former chief economist of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, said the UK was heading into recession at a time when its economy was not fixed and the BoE appeared to be the only functioning authority. |
“We are more worried — for the UK, though importantly not for the world — than we were in 2008 or any other post-World War Two crisis,” he said. “The scale of all this will start to unfold in coming weeks.” | “We are more worried — for the UK, though importantly not for the world — than we were in 2008 or any other post-World War Two crisis,” he said. “The scale of all this will start to unfold in coming weeks.” |
Llewellyn is also worried about Britain’s ‘twin deficit’ problem (the annual borrowing requirement, and the gap between imports and exports). | Llewellyn is also worried about Britain’s ‘twin deficit’ problem (the annual borrowing requirement, and the gap between imports and exports). |
Click on this tweet for more.... | Click on this tweet for more.... |
TIN HAT TIME John Llewellyn, former OECD chief economist, and one of the least alarmist people I know pic.twitter.com/uTvyjU09ND | TIN HAT TIME John Llewellyn, former OECD chief economist, and one of the least alarmist people I know pic.twitter.com/uTvyjU09ND |
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The FTSE 250 index, made up of 250 UK firms not big enough for the Footsie 100, has been through a torrid two days: | The FTSE 250 index, made up of 250 UK firms not big enough for the Footsie 100, has been through a torrid two days: |
FTSE 250 closes down 7%. That's 13.7% in two trading sessions. 2nd largest two-day fall since the hurricane in 1987. pic.twitter.com/v2FsB9Nj5N | FTSE 250 closes down 7%. That's 13.7% in two trading sessions. 2nd largest two-day fall since the hurricane in 1987. pic.twitter.com/v2FsB9Nj5N |
The ‘250 is seen as a better gauge of the domestic UK economy. So this is Not Good.... | The ‘250 is seen as a better gauge of the domestic UK economy. So this is Not Good.... |
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