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Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine release tax returns – campaign live Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine release tax returns – campaign live
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One Trump supporter still appreciates “the lowest form of humanity”.
This lady just came up to me and said "I still love CNN." pic.twitter.com/3uSqnkRFRf
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“We have to win Pennsylvania. I went to school here. My kids went to school here,” said Trump.“We have to win Pennsylvania. I went to school here. My kids went to school here,” said Trump.
He talks more about winning, and needing to get the country winning again. He then thanks the crowd, and heads offstage to the tune of Rolling Stone’s Can’t Always Get What You Want, which has become a bit of signature tune for him as he leaves and seems like the most confusing campaign message song of all time.He talks more about winning, and needing to get the country winning again. He then thanks the crowd, and heads offstage to the tune of Rolling Stone’s Can’t Always Get What You Want, which has become a bit of signature tune for him as he leaves and seems like the most confusing campaign message song of all time.
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Oh, those protesters from before were calling for Trump’s tax forms, on the same day that Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine’s tax forms were released.Oh, those protesters from before were calling for Trump’s tax forms, on the same day that Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine’s tax forms were released.
Half-dozen protesters just popped up at @realDonaldTrump's event, holding signs that say "TAX FORMS." Same day Clinton released tax returnsHalf-dozen protesters just popped up at @realDonaldTrump's event, holding signs that say "TAX FORMS." Same day Clinton released tax returns
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Trump was 'being sarcastic' over Obama ISIS comment: 'but not that sarcastic'Trump was 'being sarcastic' over Obama ISIS comment: 'but not that sarcastic'
Trump references his ‘Obama is the founder of ISIS’ comments from this week, blaming the media for making it a story.Trump references his ‘Obama is the founder of ISIS’ comments from this week, blaming the media for making it a story.
“Of course I was being sarcastic, they know it,” says Trump. Before adding shortly afterwards, he adds: “But not that sarcastic, to be honest with you.”“Of course I was being sarcastic, they know it,” says Trump. Before adding shortly afterwards, he adds: “But not that sarcastic, to be honest with you.”
When Trump mentions “I said Obama was the founder of ISIS,” the audience cheers loudly.When Trump mentions “I said Obama was the founder of ISIS,” the audience cheers loudly.
He then criticizes the “dishonest media people.”He then criticizes the “dishonest media people.”
“They knew I was being sarcastic... These people are the lowest form of life, I’m telling you. The lowest. The lowest form of humanity. Not all of them, they have about 25% that are OK,” says Trump.“They knew I was being sarcastic... These people are the lowest form of life, I’m telling you. The lowest. The lowest form of humanity. Not all of them, they have about 25% that are OK,” says Trump.
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“If I ever said I short circuited, it would be headlines all over the world. They would call for the death penalty,” says Trump to laughs, referencing Hillary Clinton’s ‘short-circuited’ over emails.“If I ever said I short circuited, it would be headlines all over the world. They would call for the death penalty,” says Trump to laughs, referencing Hillary Clinton’s ‘short-circuited’ over emails.
“I’m not looking at notes, I’m not reading teleprompters. Not easy, not easy. And if I make one mistake, it’s like ‘oh he got a wrong date, headlines!’”“I’m not looking at notes, I’m not reading teleprompters. Not easy, not easy. And if I make one mistake, it’s like ‘oh he got a wrong date, headlines!’”
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A man unfurled a Confederate flag with the word ‘Trump’ emblazoned on it at a Florida rally for the Republican candidate on Thursday. The man was soon approached by police officers who asked him to take it down. Later the flag was replaced with an American flag hanging in the same spot.A man unfurled a Confederate flag with the word ‘Trump’ emblazoned on it at a Florida rally for the Republican candidate on Thursday. The man was soon approached by police officers who asked him to take it down. Later the flag was replaced with an American flag hanging in the same spot.
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A protester appears, stopping the rally. Once they are taken away, Trump replies:A protester appears, stopping the rally. Once they are taken away, Trump replies:
“The Bernie Sanders protesters were much much stronger, they had much more passion, I have to say.”“The Bernie Sanders protesters were much much stronger, they had much more passion, I have to say.”
He says protesters are on the same side as him.He says protesters are on the same side as him.
“You know it’s interesting, if I can speak to them for like five minutes: we want a strong military, we want to take care of our people, we good housing, we want good education... we’re all in it for the same thing,” says Trump.“You know it’s interesting, if I can speak to them for like five minutes: we want a strong military, we want to take care of our people, we good housing, we want good education... we’re all in it for the same thing,” says Trump.
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Currently Trump hitting his normal talking points at this PA rally: build a wall between Mexico, bad trade deals, special interests controlling Washington and “Crooked” Hillary.Currently Trump hitting his normal talking points at this PA rally: build a wall between Mexico, bad trade deals, special interests controlling Washington and “Crooked” Hillary.
“They’re going to build that plant. Now, if I were here five years ago and if President Obama made me Secretary of Keeping Business in the United States. I like the sound of Secretary of Defense better....I like the Sound of Secretary of the Treasury, I like the Sound of Secretary of State, but would I be good at keeping jobs over here,” says Trump.“They’re going to build that plant. Now, if I were here five years ago and if President Obama made me Secretary of Keeping Business in the United States. I like the sound of Secretary of Defense better....I like the Sound of Secretary of the Treasury, I like the Sound of Secretary of State, but would I be good at keeping jobs over here,” says Trump.
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Before Trump arrived, Reince Priebus, chairman of the RNC, addresses the crowd, telling them “don’t believe the garbage you read” and says the RNC and Trump were working strongly together.Before Trump arrived, Reince Priebus, chairman of the RNC, addresses the crowd, telling them “don’t believe the garbage you read” and says the RNC and Trump were working strongly together.
“We’re going to put him in the White House and save this country together,” says Priebus.“We’re going to put him in the White House and save this country together,” says Priebus.
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Watch: Donald Trump rally in Erie, PAWatch: Donald Trump rally in Erie, PA
Donald Trump walks out to Lee Greenwood’s Proud to be an American.Donald Trump walks out to Lee Greenwood’s Proud to be an American.
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Trump Tower has less stories than Donald Trump would have you believe, because yuge buildings are worth more.Trump Tower has less stories than Donald Trump would have you believe, because yuge buildings are worth more.
An AP report noted today that Trump conflates his building size as a marketing tool:An AP report noted today that Trump conflates his building size as a marketing tool:
When a Virginia teenager attempted to scale the all-glass front of Trump Tower this week, journalists struggled to answer basic questions.When a Virginia teenager attempted to scale the all-glass front of Trump Tower this week, journalists struggled to answer basic questions.
Among them: How tall is the Republican presidential candidate’s namesake Manhattan skyscraper anyway?Among them: How tall is the Republican presidential candidate’s namesake Manhattan skyscraper anyway?
The Trump Organization claims in marketing materials that the building is 68 stories tall. But outside groups and city records list Trump Tower at 58 stories.The Trump Organization claims in marketing materials that the building is 68 stories tall. But outside groups and city records list Trump Tower at 58 stories.
Trump told The New York Times in 2003 he skipped 10 numbers when labeling the residential floors because the ceilings on lower floors were so tall.Trump told The New York Times in 2003 he skipped 10 numbers when labeling the residential floors because the ceilings on lower floors were so tall.
Another New York Times story from this year, which focused on the highest buildings in the city, also pointed out the difference:Another New York Times story from this year, which focused on the highest buildings in the city, also pointed out the difference:
“Is Trump known for exaggerating his buildings’ heights?” I asked.“Is Trump known for exaggerating his buildings’ heights?” I asked.
Gerometta replied that he didn’t know about that, but he did know this: Trump was probably one of the first builders to skip floor numbers in order to inflate the total count. “What he markets as the 90th floor is often actually the 72nd floor, just to make it sound more impressive.”Gerometta replied that he didn’t know about that, but he did know this: Trump was probably one of the first builders to skip floor numbers in order to inflate the total count. “What he markets as the 90th floor is often actually the 72nd floor, just to make it sound more impressive.”
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As we prepare for Trump’s 2pm event in Erie, Pennsylvania to kick off, here’s a little taster, care of a video the Republican nominee tweeted showing him and “America’s Mayor” Rudy Giuliani - to the sound of soaring strings! - visiting a small business and hearing about businesses struggling with the cost of health insurance.As we prepare for Trump’s 2pm event in Erie, Pennsylvania to kick off, here’s a little taster, care of a video the Republican nominee tweeted showing him and “America’s Mayor” Rudy Giuliani - to the sound of soaring strings! - visiting a small business and hearing about businesses struggling with the cost of health insurance.
We will repeal and replace disastrous #Obamacare! #TrumpPence16 pic.twitter.com/Lx4Gdj5zGkWe will repeal and replace disastrous #Obamacare! #TrumpPence16 pic.twitter.com/Lx4Gdj5zGk
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One of Donald Trump’s highest-profile surrogates is doubling down on his belief that there is “no doubt” President Barack Obama is a secret Muslim.One of Donald Trump’s highest-profile surrogates is doubling down on his belief that there is “no doubt” President Barack Obama is a secret Muslim.
“If it acts like a duck, if it walks like a duck, and if it talks like a duck, it’s a duck!” former New York gubernatorial candidate and fellow real estate tycoon Carl Paladino told Fox Business host Connell McShane in a contentious interview on Don Imus’ radio show.“If it acts like a duck, if it walks like a duck, and if it talks like a duck, it’s a duck!” former New York gubernatorial candidate and fellow real estate tycoon Carl Paladino told Fox Business host Connell McShane in a contentious interview on Don Imus’ radio show.
Paladino told the New York Observer last week that “in the mind of the average American, there is no doubt he is a Muslim. He is not a Christian,” Paladino said of the president. “Look at what he’s done with Iran, what he’s done with the Sunni-Shia thing over in Iraq and Iran, and with Isis.”Paladino told the New York Observer last week that “in the mind of the average American, there is no doubt he is a Muslim. He is not a Christian,” Paladino said of the president. “Look at what he’s done with Iran, what he’s done with the Sunni-Shia thing over in Iraq and Iran, and with Isis.”
“Now I assume you don’t believe that. It’s not true,” McShane, who was filling in for Imus, told Paladino this morning.“Now I assume you don’t believe that. It’s not true,” McShane, who was filling in for Imus, told Paladino this morning.
“Wait, how do you know that’s not true?” responded Paladino. “That’s not fair, Connell - you’ve formed a conclusion about a man because he’s told you that, he’s said, ‘No, I’m not a Muslim.’ Oh, that’s great.”“Wait, how do you know that’s not true?” responded Paladino. “That’s not fair, Connell - you’ve formed a conclusion about a man because he’s told you that, he’s said, ‘No, I’m not a Muslim.’ Oh, that’s great.”
“We’re not going to have this ridiculous talk,” McShane responded.“We’re not going to have this ridiculous talk,” McShane responded.
“So there’s no doubt he is? How would you know that that is true?” Paladino said. “This is the same guy who yesterday deprived the American people of an investigation into Hillary Clinton’s foundation.”“So there’s no doubt he is? How would you know that that is true?” Paladino said. “This is the same guy who yesterday deprived the American people of an investigation into Hillary Clinton’s foundation.”
“OK, that’s fine, but that’s different from saying there’s no doubt he’s a Muslim,” McShane shot back.“OK, that’s fine, but that’s different from saying there’s no doubt he’s a Muslim,” McShane shot back.
“If it acts like a duck, if it walks like a duck, and if it talks like a duck, it’s a duck!” Paladino said.“If it acts like a duck, if it walks like a duck, and if it talks like a duck, it’s a duck!” Paladino said.
“That’s just nonsense,” McShane responded dismissively. “It’s just so silly, Carl - you lose everybody on this kind of stuff!”“That’s just nonsense,” McShane responded dismissively. “It’s just so silly, Carl - you lose everybody on this kind of stuff!”
“I don’t lose anybody!” Paladino responded. “I lose the press, that’s all I lose.”“I don’t lose anybody!” Paladino responded. “I lose the press, that’s all I lose.”
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Hillary Clinton’s effective tax rate in 2015: 43.2%Hillary Clinton’s effective tax rate in 2015: 43.2%
Donald Trump’s effective tax rate in 2015: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Donald Trump’s effective tax rate in 2015: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Related: Hillary Clinton releases 2015 tax return and Tim Kaine unveils 10 years' worthRelated: Hillary Clinton releases 2015 tax return and Tim Kaine unveils 10 years' worth
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From Trump: Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know About Success, Real Estate, and Life:From Trump: Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know About Success, Real Estate, and Life:
If God ever wanted an apartment in Trump Tower, I would immediately offer my best luxury suite at a very special price. I believe God is everywhere and in all of us, and I want every decision I make to reflect well on me when it’s time for me to go to that big boardroom in the sky. When I get permanently fired by the ultimate boss, I want the elevator to heaven to go up, not down.If God ever wanted an apartment in Trump Tower, I would immediately offer my best luxury suite at a very special price. I believe God is everywhere and in all of us, and I want every decision I make to reflect well on me when it’s time for me to go to that big boardroom in the sky. When I get permanently fired by the ultimate boss, I want the elevator to heaven to go up, not down.
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The man who climbed Trump Tower has been charged with reckless endangerment and trespassing, police announced on Thursday.The man who climbed Trump Tower has been charged with reckless endangerment and trespassing, police announced on Thursday.
Stephen Rogata, who had recently changed his name from Michael Joseph Ryan, made headlines on Wednesday when he used four suction cups and a series of ropes to attempt to climb Donald Trump’s 58-story building in midtown Manhattan. The incident was livestreamed around the world as police inflated large crash pads and shut down the street in an attempt to get him down. He was eventually apprehended through the window of the building on the 21st floor.Stephen Rogata, who had recently changed his name from Michael Joseph Ryan, made headlines on Wednesday when he used four suction cups and a series of ropes to attempt to climb Donald Trump’s 58-story building in midtown Manhattan. The incident was livestreamed around the world as police inflated large crash pads and shut down the street in an attempt to get him down. He was eventually apprehended through the window of the building on the 21st floor.
The 19-year old from Great Falls, Virginia, later told police he was seeking an “audience” with Donald Trump.The 19-year old from Great Falls, Virginia, later told police he was seeking an “audience” with Donald Trump.
Rogata had reportedly driven from Great Falls to New York on Tuesday night before checking into the Bowery Grand Hotel at 10am on Wednesday.Rogata had reportedly driven from Great Falls to New York on Tuesday night before checking into the Bowery Grand Hotel at 10am on Wednesday.
A video he uploaded to YouTube surfaced shortly afterward, in which he explained his motives: “I am an independent researcher seeking a private audience with you to discuss an important matter. I guarantee that it’s in your interest to honor this request,” he said in the video.A video he uploaded to YouTube surfaced shortly afterward, in which he explained his motives: “I am an independent researcher seeking a private audience with you to discuss an important matter. I guarantee that it’s in your interest to honor this request,” he said in the video.
He is now being held at Bellevue hospital under police supervision where he is currently under psychological evaluation.He is now being held at Bellevue hospital under police supervision where he is currently under psychological evaluation.
The tower is the headquarters for Trump’s campaign and his businesses and is also his residence.The tower is the headquarters for Trump’s campaign and his businesses and is also his residence.
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Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine release tax returnsHillary Clinton, Tim Kaine release tax returns
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has released her 2015 personal tax return, as well as that of her running mate, Virginia senator Tim Kaine and his wife Anne Holton, who additionally released 10 years of their returns.Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has released her 2015 personal tax return, as well as that of her running mate, Virginia senator Tim Kaine and his wife Anne Holton, who additionally released 10 years of their returns.
The figures show Hillary and Bill Clinton earned nearly $11m in 2015, and paid a total of 43.2% tax.The figures show Hillary and Bill Clinton earned nearly $11m in 2015, and paid a total of 43.2% tax.
“Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine continue to set the standard for financial transparency as she releases her 2015 personal tax return and builds on the Clintons’ tradition of making their returns public since 1977 and Kaine releases 10 years of his returns,” campaign communications director Jenn Palmieri said in a statement.“Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine continue to set the standard for financial transparency as she releases her 2015 personal tax return and builds on the Clintons’ tradition of making their returns public since 1977 and Kaine releases 10 years of his returns,” campaign communications director Jenn Palmieri said in a statement.
“In stark contrast, Donald Trump is hiding behind fake excuses and backtracking on his previous promises to release his tax returns,” Palmieri continued. “He has failed to provide the public with the most basic financial information disclosed by every major candidate in the last 40 years. What is he trying to hide?”“In stark contrast, Donald Trump is hiding behind fake excuses and backtracking on his previous promises to release his tax returns,” Palmieri continued. “He has failed to provide the public with the most basic financial information disclosed by every major candidate in the last 40 years. What is he trying to hide?”
Trump, Clinton’s Republican opponent, has steadfastly refused to release any of his personal tax information, citing legal advice from Trump Organization counsel not to publicly disclose his tax returns before the completion of an audit.Trump, Clinton’s Republican opponent, has steadfastly refused to release any of his personal tax information, citing legal advice from Trump Organization counsel not to publicly disclose his tax returns before the completion of an audit.
In 2015, the Clintons paid an effective federal income tax rate of 34.2% on an adjusted gross income of $10,594,529. Adding an effective state and local income tax rate of 9.0%, the couple’s total tax rate was 43.2%. The Clintons donated $1,042,000, or 9.8% of their adjusted gross income, to charity.In 2015, the Clintons paid an effective federal income tax rate of 34.2% on an adjusted gross income of $10,594,529. Adding an effective state and local income tax rate of 9.0%, the couple’s total tax rate was 43.2%. The Clintons donated $1,042,000, or 9.8% of their adjusted gross income, to charity.
Kaine and Holton had an adjusted gross income of $313,441, and paid a total of 25.6% in tax. The Clinton campaign released a table showing the effective tax rates paid by Kaine and Holton since 2006, although they did not release one for the Clintons:Kaine and Holton had an adjusted gross income of $313,441, and paid a total of 25.6% in tax. The Clinton campaign released a table showing the effective tax rates paid by Kaine and Holton since 2006, although they did not release one for the Clintons:
Presidential candidates are not legally required to release their tax returns, although the practice has been the norm for more than four decades.Presidential candidates are not legally required to release their tax returns, although the practice has been the norm for more than four decades.
Trump’s critics have speculated that the real estate tycoon is hiding his tax returns because they may reveal that he has vastly overstated his personal wealth, has unsavory business ties with the Russians or may be stingy with charitable donations, or some combination thereof. Trump’s tax rate itself has been posited as a possible reason for the campaign’s reticence - the New York Times today floated the possibility that Trump may pay zero federal income tax in some years.Trump’s critics have speculated that the real estate tycoon is hiding his tax returns because they may reveal that he has vastly overstated his personal wealth, has unsavory business ties with the Russians or may be stingy with charitable donations, or some combination thereof. Trump’s tax rate itself has been posited as a possible reason for the campaign’s reticence - the New York Times today floated the possibility that Trump may pay zero federal income tax in some years.
There are no laws prohibiting tax returns under audit from being released. Richard Nixon released his own taxes under audit in 1973, in part because of accusations of tax-dodging that eventually forced the disgraced former president to pay the IRS $476,431 in back taxes.There are no laws prohibiting tax returns under audit from being released. Richard Nixon released his own taxes under audit in 1973, in part because of accusations of tax-dodging that eventually forced the disgraced former president to pay the IRS $476,431 in back taxes.
When asked about his taxes at the time, Nixon willingly released the returns that had been under audit: “I welcome this kind of examination, because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I am not a crook.”When asked about his taxes at the time, Nixon willingly released the returns that had been under audit: “I welcome this kind of examination, because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I am not a crook.”
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