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Bill Shorten expected to tell Labor MPs to block marriage equality plebiscite – politics live | |
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Bill Shorten is expected to recommend to the caucus that Labor blocks the Coalition’s plebiscite legislation. Shorten and Labor have been equivocating on what they will do with the legislation even though they oppose a plebiscite and believe there should be a free vote in parliament. | |
Last night Labor said Shorten would be consulting with groups and people effected by the plebiscite debate. This expected recommendation this morning to block the bill is a move forward. Possibly to leave his own caucus is in no doubt as to what his position is. Labor will still do the consultations but from a known leadership position of blocking the plebiscite bill. | |
There are twists with double pikes going on here. Bear with me. | |
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Senate is debating tobacco excise hike which was a Labor initiative taken up by the government. There are a lot of government speakers on this. Methinks there is a little buying of time for the government in the red chamber. | |
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First speech juxtaposition: Pauline Hanson’s first speech at 5:00, immediately followed by Labor Indigenous senator Malarndirri McCarthy. | |
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Every prime minister needs a spine. | Every prime minister needs a spine. |
The Labor MP Ed Husic is showing his usual cheek by bringing a spine for Malcolm Turnbull. He thought, given recent decisions, Turnbull might need it. | |
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There have been many words written on Malcolm Turnbull’s one-year anniversary. In case you missed it, Katharine Murphy wrote about it last Friday – which could be characterised as no time like the present. | There have been many words written on Malcolm Turnbull’s one-year anniversary. In case you missed it, Katharine Murphy wrote about it last Friday – which could be characterised as no time like the present. |
Turnbull has been acting like a prime minister with time on his hands – time to recover from an election setback, time to plug in to the great geopolitical developments of our age, time to play a part, time to determine a new agenda for a new parliament, time to do some good on a range of fronts, time to fight on and live another day, another week, another month, another term. | Turnbull has been acting like a prime minister with time on his hands – time to recover from an election setback, time to plug in to the great geopolitical developments of our age, time to play a part, time to determine a new agenda for a new parliament, time to do some good on a range of fronts, time to fight on and live another day, another week, another month, another term. |
Perhaps he’s acutely aware of the difficulties he’s in, yet he’s seemed slow to grasp the harsh political realities of his post-election position – landmines everywhere, contingency everywhere. | Perhaps he’s acutely aware of the difficulties he’s in, yet he’s seemed slow to grasp the harsh political realities of his post-election position – landmines everywhere, contingency everywhere. |
Here is the brutal reality facing Malcolm Turnbull as he faces his first anniversary in the job he’d always wanted. | Here is the brutal reality facing Malcolm Turnbull as he faces his first anniversary in the job he’d always wanted. |
He doesn’t have time. | He doesn’t have time. |
He has now, and he wastes now at his peril. | He has now, and he wastes now at his peril. |
Laura Tingle of the Australian Financial Review has written a piece today that takes a different tack. She started the piece with former Labor leader and US ambassador Kim Beazley, backing in Turnbull on the Kevin Rudd nomination for UN secretary general. Beazley’s conversations with the prime minister confirm the view that Turnbull did not consider Rudd a suitable candidate. And that a government could not nominate someone without endorsing. She uses the example for a wider point. | Laura Tingle of the Australian Financial Review has written a piece today that takes a different tack. She started the piece with former Labor leader and US ambassador Kim Beazley, backing in Turnbull on the Kevin Rudd nomination for UN secretary general. Beazley’s conversations with the prime minister confirm the view that Turnbull did not consider Rudd a suitable candidate. And that a government could not nominate someone without endorsing. She uses the example for a wider point. |
Beazley’s intervention forces us to think again about this incident, and opens a wider appraisal of Turnbull’s prime ministership than has generally been seen in the orgy of words marking 12 months since he toppled Tony Abbott. | Beazley’s intervention forces us to think again about this incident, and opens a wider appraisal of Turnbull’s prime ministership than has generally been seen in the orgy of words marking 12 months since he toppled Tony Abbott. |
Much has been made in the past year – and the past week – of the high expectations voters had that Turnbull would transform politics and their disappointment that he has not. | Much has been made in the past year – and the past week – of the high expectations voters had that Turnbull would transform politics and their disappointment that he has not. |
The prime minister’s performance is rated in terms of these expectations. Many of those who criticise him notably do so because he has not delivered what they particularly want. | The prime minister’s performance is rated in terms of these expectations. Many of those who criticise him notably do so because he has not delivered what they particularly want. |
On the left, there is disappointment on issues like climate change and same-sex marriage. On the right, the criticism is he hasn’t done enough on tax reform, budget repair and industrial relations. | On the left, there is disappointment on issues like climate change and same-sex marriage. On the right, the criticism is he hasn’t done enough on tax reform, budget repair and industrial relations. |
But there is very little said about the way the Turnbull prime ministership actually works. Whether it is good, bad or indifferent, it is certainly a very, very different prime ministership. | But there is very little said about the way the Turnbull prime ministership actually works. Whether it is good, bad or indifferent, it is certainly a very, very different prime ministership. |
Let’s be blunt here. This is a bloke who is not particularly good at retail politics, nor particularly concerned about running to the beat of the retail politics drum. | Let’s be blunt here. This is a bloke who is not particularly good at retail politics, nor particularly concerned about running to the beat of the retail politics drum. |
As one cabinet minister says, “You will observe that a particular issue isn’t quite zooming down the ski slope politically and he thinks that’s fine, he’s relaxed. He doesn’t mind things being a bit ‘off piste’.” | As one cabinet minister says, “You will observe that a particular issue isn’t quite zooming down the ski slope politically and he thinks that’s fine, he’s relaxed. He doesn’t mind things being a bit ‘off piste’.” |
Yet all those who have moaned about three-word slogans and politicians driven by the 24-hour media cycle and “announceables” still don’t seem happy with an approach so conspicuously lacking such frenzy. | Yet all those who have moaned about three-word slogans and politicians driven by the 24-hour media cycle and “announceables” still don’t seem happy with an approach so conspicuously lacking such frenzy. |
Few doubt Turnbull’s intellectual capacities. But few also observe that the prime minister sees his job foremost as head of the “Office of Wicked Problems”, not first as the beating heart of a political organisation focused on winning the next election. | Few doubt Turnbull’s intellectual capacities. But few also observe that the prime minister sees his job foremost as head of the “Office of Wicked Problems”, not first as the beating heart of a political organisation focused on winning the next election. |
Discuss. | Discuss. |
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Bowen says, hey government, there is more we can do to fix the budget together. He names private health insurance and VET fees. He also thanks the treasurer, Scott Morrison. | Bowen says, hey government, there is more we can do to fix the budget together. He names private health insurance and VET fees. He also thanks the treasurer, Scott Morrison. |
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In the lower house, we begin. | In the lower house, we begin. |
Chris Bowen is speaking on the budget bill. This is the resumption of a debate, which had already begun. After the compromise deal yesterday, amendments will be moved to accommodate the deal and then the vote will happen. | Chris Bowen is speaking on the budget bill. This is the resumption of a debate, which had already begun. After the compromise deal yesterday, amendments will be moved to accommodate the deal and then the vote will happen. |
Bowen is reinforcing the point that they wanted budget cuts that are fair. He says the “baby bonus” was unaffordable and he congratulated the government for dropping it. He notes Labor’s opposition to the baby bonus was compared to China’s one child policy by government members. | Bowen is reinforcing the point that they wanted budget cuts that are fair. He says the “baby bonus” was unaffordable and he congratulated the government for dropping it. He notes Labor’s opposition to the baby bonus was compared to China’s one child policy by government members. |
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As a bookend for the Hanson post, you must check out Gareth Hutchens’ piece on her One Nation colleague Malcolm Roberts. | As a bookend for the Hanson post, you must check out Gareth Hutchens’ piece on her One Nation colleague Malcolm Roberts. |
The One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts has used his first speech to pour scorn on modern climate science, call for Australia to leave the United Nations and question the reliability of data from Australian government departments and agencies. | The One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts has used his first speech to pour scorn on modern climate science, call for Australia to leave the United Nations and question the reliability of data from Australian government departments and agencies. |
He railed against the level of taxation in Australia and thanked his colleagues in the Galileo Movement, such as Ian Plimer, the radio host Alan Jones and the late professor Bob Carter for their constant questioning of climate science. He said he loved to ask questions to get to the truth, like Socrates. | He railed against the level of taxation in Australia and thanked his colleagues in the Galileo Movement, such as Ian Plimer, the radio host Alan Jones and the late professor Bob Carter for their constant questioning of climate science. He said he loved to ask questions to get to the truth, like Socrates. |
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Parliament calling space. | Parliament calling space. |
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Pauline Hanson: We're still being swamped by Chinese. And watch out for a recession. | Pauline Hanson: We're still being swamped by Chinese. And watch out for a recession. |
The second first Pauline Hanson speech is on tonight. This morning, she was doorstopped in the press gallery. | The second first Pauline Hanson speech is on tonight. This morning, she was doorstopped in the press gallery. |
If we keep heading down the path of selling our land and our houses and everything, we will be swamped by the Chinese. They talk about there is a smaller amount than other interests, foreign, even owned, but if Kidman station was sold they would be second to Britain. | If we keep heading down the path of selling our land and our houses and everything, we will be swamped by the Chinese. They talk about there is a smaller amount than other interests, foreign, even owned, but if Kidman station was sold they would be second to Britain. |
Q: What do you make of Malcolm Turnbull’s performance given this is the first anniversary of him becoming PM? | Q: What do you make of Malcolm Turnbull’s performance given this is the first anniversary of him becoming PM? |
I think a lot of people have been disappointed with him. They have expected more of him and his performance. He is treading very, what can I say, on thin water at the moment because he hasn’t got the numbers in the lower house. So the last election I think has been a big wake-up to the Liberal party and the National party. So people will want to see something happening. If they don’t start reining in the budget, I believe we will be heading down the path of a recession. | I think a lot of people have been disappointed with him. They have expected more of him and his performance. He is treading very, what can I say, on thin water at the moment because he hasn’t got the numbers in the lower house. So the last election I think has been a big wake-up to the Liberal party and the National party. So people will want to see something happening. If they don’t start reining in the budget, I believe we will be heading down the path of a recession. |
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And yes, the Senate has guvvie business. | And yes, the Senate has guvvie business. |
And, if these bills make it up to the red chamber, these will be debated too: | And, if these bills make it up to the red chamber, these will be debated too: |
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