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| Labor commits to blocking marriage equality plebiscite – politics live | Labor commits to blocking marriage equality plebiscite – politics live |
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| 1.30am BST | |
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| Since the Labor decision, I am chasing whether the plebiscite bill will still be debated in the House today. It was go to the House this afternoon and the Senate tomorrow but the Senate and the House will be taken up mid-morning tomorrow with a visit from the prime minister of Singapore. | |
| If you were Malcolm Turnbull, you would want the issue to go away, given it is 17 types of hard. We await the Coalition’s reaction. In the meantime, we can only hear the birds chirping. | |
| As an aside, are these: | |
| a) crows | |
| b) ravens | |
| c) currawongs | |
| d) other. | |
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| While I hate to send you in a different direction, my colleague Helen Davidson is doing the live blog of the Northern Territory’s royal commission into juvenile detention. | |
| And, for those who follow state politics, it has been confirmed that the New South Wales premier, Mike Baird, has backed down on the greyhound racing ban. | |
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| at 1.22am BST | |
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| So where are we at? We will have no movement on marriage equality for some time to come. As the National MP Andrew Broad broadcast this morning, the conservative end of the Coalition will not cop a free vote in the parliament. | |
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| at 1.23am BST | |
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| The Greens are also coming up at 12.30pm. | |
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| Here is one Mike Bowers prepared earlier. | Here is one Mike Bowers prepared earlier. |
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| at 1.24am BST | |
| 12.58am BST | 12.58am BST |
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| As a result of this news, there is press conference with Bill Shorten at 11.30am. | As a result of this news, there is press conference with Bill Shorten at 11.30am. |
| 12.44am BST | 12.44am BST |
| 00:44 | 00:44 |
| Paul Karp has confirmed Labor has indeed voted to block the plebiscite unanimously. This means the bill is dead. | Paul Karp has confirmed Labor has indeed voted to block the plebiscite unanimously. This means the bill is dead. |
| 12.38am BST | 12.38am BST |
| 00:38 | 00:38 |
| Labor reportedly going to vote against the plebiscite | Labor reportedly going to vote against the plebiscite |
| Sky News is reporting that Labor has confirmed it will block the legislation to enable a plebsictie on marriage equality. | Sky News is reporting that Labor has confirmed it will block the legislation to enable a plebsictie on marriage equality. |
| 12.33am BST | 12.33am BST |
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| Ah Matt... | Ah Matt... |
| @gabriellechan Healing divisions one hug at a time. You're welcome, Australia. #politicslive pic.twitter.com/sZHLpiFiKO | @gabriellechan Healing divisions one hug at a time. You're welcome, Australia. #politicslive pic.twitter.com/sZHLpiFiKO |
| 12.31am BST | 12.31am BST |
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| I just want to pause here to note my freedom confusion. | I just want to pause here to note my freedom confusion. |
| The conservatives in the Coalition believe the attorney general’s draft marriage amendment does not go far enough. | The conservatives in the Coalition believe the attorney general’s draft marriage amendment does not go far enough. |
| The changes, to be implemented only after a plebiscite, contain exemptions for religious organisations but not small businesses. | The changes, to be implemented only after a plebiscite, contain exemptions for religious organisations but not small businesses. |
| Conservatives believe the exemptions should also apply to small businesses on the grounds of freedom of speech. What if you object to same-sex marriage but you cannot, under law, refuse to bake a wedding cake or sew a dress? | Conservatives believe the exemptions should also apply to small businesses on the grounds of freedom of speech. What if you object to same-sex marriage but you cannot, under law, refuse to bake a wedding cake or sew a dress? |
| David Leyonhjelm agrees. | David Leyonhjelm agrees. |
| David Leyonhjelm says he wants gov's plebiscite exposure draft to allow businesses to refuse service to same-sex marriages #auspol | David Leyonhjelm says he wants gov's plebiscite exposure draft to allow businesses to refuse service to same-sex marriages #auspol |
| But, for the freedom warriors, why does freedom not extend to the right of same-sex couples to marry? | But, for the freedom warriors, why does freedom not extend to the right of same-sex couples to marry? |
| John Howard’s 2004 changes actually restricted freedoms to define marriage as between a man and a woman. There was not a peep from the freedom warriors then. | John Howard’s 2004 changes actually restricted freedoms to define marriage as between a man and a woman. There was not a peep from the freedom warriors then. |
| To recap, if I have this straight... | To recap, if I have this straight... |
| Same-sex couples should not be free to marry. | Same-sex couples should not be free to marry. |
| But, if they are free to marry, businesses should be free to refuse services to same-sex couples. | But, if they are free to marry, businesses should be free to refuse services to same-sex couples. |
| At the same time, while it’s gone off the boil, the same freedom warriors are arguing to amend 18c so people are free to insult and offend. | At the same time, while it’s gone off the boil, the same freedom warriors are arguing to amend 18c so people are free to insult and offend. |
| So under this logic, you would be free to call Penny Wong a racial name but she is not free to marry. | So under this logic, you would be free to call Penny Wong a racial name but she is not free to marry. |
| Makes sense. | Makes sense. |
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| at 12.52am BST | at 12.52am BST |
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| Meanwhile, the minister for women, Michaelia Cash, has released a statement celebrating International Day of the Girl Child, “a global event recognising the rights of young girls around the world, whilst also acknowledging the ongoing challenges they confront”. | Meanwhile, the minister for women, Michaelia Cash, has released a statement celebrating International Day of the Girl Child, “a global event recognising the rights of young girls around the world, whilst also acknowledging the ongoing challenges they confront”. |
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| at 12.23am BST | at 12.23am BST |
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| There is too much happening here but I cannot bypass this. Trump’s 2005 comments were a “victory for women”, says Sky commentator and former Lib MP Ross Cameron. | There is too much happening here but I cannot bypass this. Trump’s 2005 comments were a “victory for women”, says Sky commentator and former Lib MP Ross Cameron. |
| "Wildly gesticulating Trump supporter mansplains women's issue to a woman who can't get a word in edgeways" pic.twitter.com/f3jrORDtjl | "Wildly gesticulating Trump supporter mansplains women's issue to a woman who can't get a word in edgeways" pic.twitter.com/f3jrORDtjl |
| The rise and fall of civilisations may be renamed ‘who get’s the girl’. | The rise and fall of civilisations may be renamed ‘who get’s the girl’. |
| Be still, my celestial body. | Be still, my celestial body. |
| 12.05am BST | 12.05am BST |
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| Bill Shorten spoke briefly about the marriage plebiscite before going off to caucus. He is not for turning. | Bill Shorten spoke briefly about the marriage plebiscite before going off to caucus. He is not for turning. |
| It is a shocking waste of $200m. The Liberal party is not going to bind themselves to it. It will be compulsory to vote but it is not compulsory to accept the outcome. The number of experts who have come out in recent weeks and explained that the potential for harm, in a divisive and ugly debate, the government cannot guarantee that everyone will be civilised when debating their peers. And now overnight we see the attorney general is blundering again and he is now saying that the only way we can have the plebiscite is by watering down anti-discrimination laws against gay people. I mean, this government does not want this to happen. | It is a shocking waste of $200m. The Liberal party is not going to bind themselves to it. It will be compulsory to vote but it is not compulsory to accept the outcome. The number of experts who have come out in recent weeks and explained that the potential for harm, in a divisive and ugly debate, the government cannot guarantee that everyone will be civilised when debating their peers. And now overnight we see the attorney general is blundering again and he is now saying that the only way we can have the plebiscite is by watering down anti-discrimination laws against gay people. I mean, this government does not want this to happen. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 12.08am BST | at 12.08am BST |
| 12.03am BST | 12.03am BST |
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| Just a housekeeping catch up. The chambers do not start sitting until midday for the partyroom meetings. | Just a housekeeping catch up. The chambers do not start sitting until midday for the partyroom meetings. |
| 11.45pm BST | 11.45pm BST |
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| Scott Morrison is talking about tightening up the welfare system, off the back of a Telegraph story that claims prime ministers from Howard onwards cannot get welfare recipients below 20% of the population. | Scott Morrison is talking about tightening up the welfare system, off the back of a Telegraph story that claims prime ministers from Howard onwards cannot get welfare recipients below 20% of the population. |
| He says getting a “transfer payment from government is now what many Australians have as part of their income”. | He says getting a “transfer payment from government is now what many Australians have as part of their income”. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 11.52pm BST | at 11.52pm BST |