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| Does Bob Dylan deserve his Nobel literature win? Join our live look at the week | |
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| Your reactions to Bob Dylan's Nobel prize – deserved? | |
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| Away from US politics now ... | |
| For me, and many readers it seemed, it felt nice to have an opportunity to join in (almost universal) praise of a living legend when Bob Dylan was awarded his Nobel prize in Literature on Thursday. So often we’re used to eulogising after the premature death of influential public figures. | |
| One of our favourite quotes from a reader in celebration of Dylan’s work was this from softlysoftly: “His genius lies in putting very good ideas to music without compromising the poetry.” | |
| As well as publishing a roundup of some readers’ views, we asked our moderators for some of their favourite comments from the threads as the news was announced. | |
| Great news, and well deserved! It may be surprising to some, but not to any Dylan fan. The best singer/songwriters pen lyrics than can stand on their own as poetry, with the music serving to emphasise and energise the words. Dylan's poetry has conveyed more meaning and understanding to me than any I have read. | |
| i love bob. i've got over three hundred of his albums, many of then bootlegs, many of them live performances where he reinvents his songs over and over, changing tempos and rhythms, altering the meanings of the lyrics by his delivery. i think that some of his lyrics are great and many are patchy but good.but the nobel prize. no. no no. he's completely outclassed by many great novelists and poets and playwrights. ridiculous award. | |
| It's a smart choice. Though the Swedish Academy still thinks that American literature is insular and narrowminded, now they might have deflected some of the criticism by awarding the prize to a excellent mass cultural poet. Hopefully real writers can win in the next couple of years. | |
| Cohen would have been better if that's the road they're going down. | |
| Dylan is one of the 20th century's leading songwriters, but the award of the Nobel for Literature cannot help but appear a deliberately eccentric and crowd-pleasing move. Such essentially tactical decisions are usually taken in over-enthusiastic haste and repented at leisure... Remember the music critics who trod all over each other to proclaim that the Beatles were "every bit as good as Mozart"? | |
| What do you think? Tell us in the comments. | |
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| Just one more view – an interesting perspective on the next few years ... | |
| Perhaps 2016 will lead to a 'reset' of the US political spectrum before 2020. | |
| Trump's candidacy has clarified that between his bigotry, xenophobia, selfishness (and the Tea Party influence), registered Republican supporters have taken a big lurch to the right since 2004. Issues of reduced freedoms, such as gun control, have however shifted some Democrat voters towards the GOP. | |
| On the opposite end of the spectrum, we saw Bernie Sanders mobilising a whole new cohort of politically engaged, often younger people with a more left-wing, caring (or less selfish) message. | |
| How will this play out for 2020? Will the Democrats have moved to the left to embrace more of the Sanders philosophy? Will they risk introducing a level of gun control and drive some of their supporters to the right? Will the Republicans manage to drag themselves away from the antediluvian attitudes and fantasy land economics that have characterised this campaign, or will their registered supporters continue to support Trump-like candidates who live in an alternative and highly selfish reality? | |
| It's time there was some sort of realignment and a new definition of the 'centre' of USA politics, but when you have only two truly national political parties 'breaking the mould' will not be easy. | |
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| One of the final updates we’ll post on Trump here for today is this film exploring Trump and his promised to “coal country” in West Virginia. Paul Lewis meets the voters ... | |
| Have you watched the piece? What did you think? | |
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| Our colleague Martin Belam highlights something an audience wider than regular media law watchers might have enjoyed | Our colleague Martin Belam highlights something an audience wider than regular media law watchers might have enjoyed |
| By far my favourite Trump-related thing this week has been the letter the New York Times' lawyers sent to his lawyers: | By far my favourite Trump-related thing this week has been the letter the New York Times' lawyers sent to his lawyers: |
| The women quoted in our story spoke out on an issue of national importance -- indeed, an issue that Mr. Trump himself discussed with the whole nation watching during Sunday night's presidential debate. Our reporters diligently worked to confirm the women's accounts. They provided readers with Mr. Trump's response, including his forceful denial of the women's reports. It would have been a disservice not just to our readers but to democracy itself to silence their voices. We did what the law allows: We published newsworthy information about a subject of deep public concern. If Mr. Trump disagrees, if he believes that American citizens had no right to hear what these women had to say and that the law of this country forces us and those who would dare to criticize him to stand silent or be punished, we welcome the opportunity to have a court set him straight. | The women quoted in our story spoke out on an issue of national importance -- indeed, an issue that Mr. Trump himself discussed with the whole nation watching during Sunday night's presidential debate. Our reporters diligently worked to confirm the women's accounts. They provided readers with Mr. Trump's response, including his forceful denial of the women's reports. It would have been a disservice not just to our readers but to democracy itself to silence their voices. We did what the law allows: We published newsworthy information about a subject of deep public concern. If Mr. Trump disagrees, if he believes that American citizens had no right to hear what these women had to say and that the law of this country forces us and those who would dare to criticize him to stand silent or be punished, we welcome the opportunity to have a court set him straight. |
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| Another view on Trump from below the line here | Another view on Trump from below the line here |
| They can but they'll need to change a lot. | They can but they'll need to change a lot. |
| Reince Priebus has already talked about rejigging the GOP's primary system, and nothing demonstrates that it's in dire need of it more than this does. Trotting out the crazies at a crucial point for media coverage (and in this case letting one win) is very problematic when there are plenty of more electable people in the party, for them at least. | Reince Priebus has already talked about rejigging the GOP's primary system, and nothing demonstrates that it's in dire need of it more than this does. Trotting out the crazies at a crucial point for media coverage (and in this case letting one win) is very problematic when there are plenty of more electable people in the party, for them at least. |
| Doing something about the primaries will become even more important as the USA's demographics grow increasingly out of step with the core GOP voter base too, lest a completely unrepresentative group of people select a candidate speaking directly to them and nobody else. | Doing something about the primaries will become even more important as the USA's demographics grow increasingly out of step with the core GOP voter base too, lest a completely unrepresentative group of people select a candidate speaking directly to them and nobody else. |
| Which is what's kind of happened with Trump. | Which is what's kind of happened with Trump. |
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| On the subject of Trump – some readers have been enjoying this fact-checking series – published every Friday by our US office: | On the subject of Trump – some readers have been enjoying this fact-checking series – published every Friday by our US office: |
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| A couple of early responses to the question of whether the Republican party can survive Trump, posed below. | A couple of early responses to the question of whether the Republican party can survive Trump, posed below. |
| Unfortunately it's a yes. | Unfortunately it's a yes. |
| Hillary should of tied trump to the GOP from the very beginning but she was trying to poach Republican voters so she held off branding the GOP as the party of trump. | Hillary should of tied trump to the GOP from the very beginning but she was trying to poach Republican voters so she held off branding the GOP as the party of trump. |
| If she had pushed GOP=trump then he would of hung round their necks like a burning tyre and killed the party come Nov 9th. | If she had pushed GOP=trump then he would of hung round their necks like a burning tyre and killed the party come Nov 9th. |
| The GOP is going to be damaged but they will do what they always do, blame the candidate and carry on as usual | The GOP is going to be damaged but they will do what they always do, blame the candidate and carry on as usual |
| Trump isn't the problem. He's a symptom of the problem. | Trump isn't the problem. He's a symptom of the problem. |
| The GOP have been pushing extreme, far right, white nationalist politics, for decades. Trump has just done a really good job exposing how toxic it really is. | The GOP have been pushing extreme, far right, white nationalist politics, for decades. Trump has just done a really good job exposing how toxic it really is. |
| banning abortion? Tax cuts for the super wealthy? Anti-gun-regulation? Anti-BLM? Islamaphobia? Mysoginy? | banning abortion? Tax cuts for the super wealthy? Anti-gun-regulation? Anti-BLM? Islamaphobia? Mysoginy? |
| These aren't Trump policies. They go right through the party. | These aren't Trump policies. They go right through the party. |
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| A week of Mr Trump: will he burn the Republican house down? | A week of Mr Trump: will he burn the Republican house down? |
| David Smith | David Smith |
| The Guardian’s Washington correspondent reviews Donald Trump’s week and his performance in the second US presidential debate. | The Guardian’s Washington correspondent reviews Donald Trump’s week and his performance in the second US presidential debate. |
| Donald Trump had stopped the bleeding. This was a common verdict on his performance in the second US presidential debate last Sunday night. Some Republicans who had disavowed him after the release of a video in which he bragged about groping women came back into the fold. “Donald Trump did what he absolutely had to do,” said Darryl Glenn, the party’s nominee for Senate in Colorado. “I think he reset this campaign.” | Donald Trump had stopped the bleeding. This was a common verdict on his performance in the second US presidential debate last Sunday night. Some Republicans who had disavowed him after the release of a video in which he bragged about groping women came back into the fold. “Donald Trump did what he absolutely had to do,” said Darryl Glenn, the party’s nominee for Senate in Colorado. “I think he reset this campaign.” |
| But in a New York Times column, Ross Douthat argues that collaborators with Trump’s offensive candidacy, who sold their souls for a taste of power, have created a “Republican inferno”. If, as every poll indicates, Hillary Clinton is bound for the White House, will Trump burn the entire Republican house down? Where does the bitterly divided party of Abraham Lincoln go from here? | But in a New York Times column, Ross Douthat argues that collaborators with Trump’s offensive candidacy, who sold their souls for a taste of power, have created a “Republican inferno”. If, as every poll indicates, Hillary Clinton is bound for the White House, will Trump burn the entire Republican house down? Where does the bitterly divided party of Abraham Lincoln go from here? |
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| Sarah Marsh | Sarah Marsh |
| Hello everyone, and welcome to our weekly social. Every Friday we gather from noon to 4.30pm with our readers to discuss the most thought-provoking news and comment stories of the week, with journalists talking about their best commissions and favourite articles above the line. | Hello everyone, and welcome to our weekly social. Every Friday we gather from noon to 4.30pm with our readers to discuss the most thought-provoking news and comment stories of the week, with journalists talking about their best commissions and favourite articles above the line. |
| This is a community space for our readers and we want your ideas on the format and how it should develop, as well as what we should talk about. | This is a community space for our readers and we want your ideas on the format and how it should develop, as well as what we should talk about. |
| Look forward to getting started, lots of great stuff lined up. | Look forward to getting started, lots of great stuff lined up. |