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| Xenophon shoots down Abbott's proposal on 18C with 'no, no and no' – as it happened | |
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| Night time politics | |
| Estimates will continue into the evening, until 11pm. So let’s wrap for today: | |
| Thanks to Paul Karp, Gareth Hutchens and Katharine Murphy for their contributions. Thanks to Mike Bowers for his pictures. | |
| Goodnight. | |
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| Katharine Murphy | Katharine Murphy |
| The lively day in Canberra is powering right through to close of business. As we speak the Labor left is having a specially convened caucus meeting to deal with tensions that have boiled over since Bill Shorten last Friday night backed his friend and factional ally, the controversial lawyer Kimberley Kitching, to replace the departing Stephen Conroy. | The lively day in Canberra is powering right through to close of business. As we speak the Labor left is having a specially convened caucus meeting to deal with tensions that have boiled over since Bill Shorten last Friday night backed his friend and factional ally, the controversial lawyer Kimberley Kitching, to replace the departing Stephen Conroy. |
| Let’s keep this as simple as possible. Tensions in the Victorian left have been bubbling away for months, ever since the majority of the faction tried to run the veteran leftwing powerbroker, Kim Carr, off the front bench. Folks aligned with Carr have been cranky that some of their Victorian colleagues lined up with colleagues in Sydney to try and remove Carr from the frontbench after the election. | |
| Let’s call that a pre-existing condition. | Let’s call that a pre-existing condition. |
| Then there was the Kitching transaction last week. Victorian Labor has been absolutely off the long run since Shorten decided he wanted Kitching in the Senate. Normally sedate people were quite literally tearing their hair out over that turn of events. Shorten was advised in the strongest possible terms not to bring Kitching to Canberra, that it would stir up animosities in the Labor caucus. | Then there was the Kitching transaction last week. Victorian Labor has been absolutely off the long run since Shorten decided he wanted Kitching in the Senate. Normally sedate people were quite literally tearing their hair out over that turn of events. Shorten was advised in the strongest possible terms not to bring Kitching to Canberra, that it would stir up animosities in the Labor caucus. |
| It appears to have done exactly that. Gavin Marshall (a long time Carr ally) decided to tell Fairfax Media early on Monday that he might come after a couple of sitting MPs in the left when preselection time rolled around. He named Andrew Giles and Catherine King, the shadow health minister. | It appears to have done exactly that. Gavin Marshall (a long time Carr ally) decided to tell Fairfax Media early on Monday that he might come after a couple of sitting MPs in the left when preselection time rolled around. He named Andrew Giles and Catherine King, the shadow health minister. |
| Folks should know by way of background that Marshall lost a position he held in the last parliament, deputy Senate president, in the fight over Carr and the front bench. Clearly he’s not that happy about it, and thought he might have a vent about people he views as being disloyal. | Folks should know by way of background that Marshall lost a position he held in the last parliament, deputy Senate president, in the fight over Carr and the front bench. Clearly he’s not that happy about it, and thought he might have a vent about people he views as being disloyal. |
| The non-Carr left is now unhappy to put it mildly, hence tonight’s special caucus meeting to determine whether peace can be declared, or whether things escalate. | The non-Carr left is now unhappy to put it mildly, hence tonight’s special caucus meeting to determine whether peace can be declared, or whether things escalate. |
| We can cut to the chase here, now all the background has been declared. Bill Shorten is the leader of the Labor party because he was underpinned institutionally by support from Conroy (now departed) and Carr (now the subject of acrimony from his factional fellow travellers). | |
| That underpinning has been eroded since Conroy’s departure. The caucus is something of a tinderbox after the Kitching decision. That might sound like an exaggeration, but it isn’t. Malcolm Turnbull once talked about exciting times. Seems, they are catching. | That underpinning has been eroded since Conroy’s departure. The caucus is something of a tinderbox after the Kitching decision. That might sound like an exaggeration, but it isn’t. Malcolm Turnbull once talked about exciting times. Seems, they are catching. |
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| Xenophon to Abbott on 18c: no, no and no | Xenophon to Abbott on 18c: no, no and no |
| Nick Xenophon has responded to Tony Abbott’s suggestion that changes to section 18C would “readily” pass if the Nick Xenophon Team supported them. | Nick Xenophon has responded to Tony Abbott’s suggestion that changes to section 18C would “readily” pass if the Nick Xenophon Team supported them. |
| Asked if his party was considering supporting a change, Xenophon told Guardian Australia: “the answer is no, no and no. I’ve spoken to my colleagues and we agree: not only is there no proposal, there is no pipeline.” | Asked if his party was considering supporting a change, Xenophon told Guardian Australia: “the answer is no, no and no. I’ve spoken to my colleagues and we agree: not only is there no proposal, there is no pipeline.” |
| I am deeply offended at the suggestion of any change in section 18C – but I realise my complaint is not actionable. | I am deeply offended at the suggestion of any change in section 18C – but I realise my complaint is not actionable. |
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| Tony Abbott has regularly come back to his proposal to amend 18C post prime ministership, despite having dropped it from his government’s agenda in order to deal with national security issues. | Tony Abbott has regularly come back to his proposal to amend 18C post prime ministership, despite having dropped it from his government’s agenda in order to deal with national security issues. |
| Now he is seeking what is known around the traps as a more minimalist proposal, which would remove the words insult and offend from section 18c, notwithstanding the free speech provisions in 18d. | Now he is seeking what is known around the traps as a more minimalist proposal, which would remove the words insult and offend from section 18c, notwithstanding the free speech provisions in 18d. |
| It seems unlikely that Nick Xenophon would overturn his opposition to amending the Racial Discrimination Act. But hey, we have put in the call. | It seems unlikely that Nick Xenophon would overturn his opposition to amending the Racial Discrimination Act. But hey, we have put in the call. |
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| Re. 18c: if the Nick Xenephon Team put up a proposal, reform could readily occur. | Re. 18c: if the Nick Xenephon Team put up a proposal, reform could readily occur. |
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| The independent national security monitor Roger Gyles is in finance estimates committee now. He has confirmed he will be leaving for personal reasons. Brandis says he doesn’t want to be tied down as to a timeframe for a replacement. | The independent national security monitor Roger Gyles is in finance estimates committee now. He has confirmed he will be leaving for personal reasons. Brandis says he doesn’t want to be tied down as to a timeframe for a replacement. |
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| MacGibbon agrees that he assumes ministers do not share classified information over such apps. | MacGibbon agrees that he assumes ministers do not share classified information over such apps. |
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| Alastair MacGibbon, cyber security special adviser to the PM, has told Wong that prior to James Massola’s Fairfax story about minister’s usage of Whatsapp among others, he had not sought regarding security advice on Whatsapp for cabinet ministers. | Alastair MacGibbon, cyber security special adviser to the PM, has told Wong that prior to James Massola’s Fairfax story about minister’s usage of Whatsapp among others, he had not sought regarding security advice on Whatsapp for cabinet ministers. |
| MacGibbon told the committee that the government’s signals directorate advised Whatsapp and other encrypted apps are OK for non-classified information. | MacGibbon told the committee that the government’s signals directorate advised Whatsapp and other encrypted apps are OK for non-classified information. |
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| Wong: Personal safety? He likes strawberries not rasberries? | Wong: Personal safety? He likes strawberries not rasberries? |
| The wonderful farce of the defence department redacting Malcolm Turnbull's dietary preferences on privacy and "personal safety". pic.twitter.com/mNIEMAQL4S | The wonderful farce of the defence department redacting Malcolm Turnbull's dietary preferences on privacy and "personal safety". pic.twitter.com/mNIEMAQL4S |
| Brandis: This is an orgy of culinary trivialities. | Brandis: This is an orgy of culinary trivialities. |
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| Marathon men | Marathon men |
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| COAG will hold a National Summit on Reducing Violence against Women and their Children in Brisbane next week #auspol pic.twitter.com/u4mVu6RfF8 | COAG will hold a National Summit on Reducing Violence against Women and their Children in Brisbane next week #auspol pic.twitter.com/u4mVu6RfF8 |
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| Katharine Murphy reports that Bob Day’s chief of staff Rikki Lambert intends to put his name forward to fill the vacancy. She has a full story on the Day development here. | Katharine Murphy reports that Bob Day’s chief of staff Rikki Lambert intends to put his name forward to fill the vacancy. She has a full story on the Day development here. |
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| Wong vs. Brandis + Paterson #characteristicallydishonest #estimates #auspol pic.twitter.com/EC1fCTaxLa | Wong vs. Brandis + Paterson #characteristicallydishonest #estimates #auspol pic.twitter.com/EC1fCTaxLa |