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Ukraine crisis: Berlin talks played down Ukraine crisis: 'No miracles' at Berlin talks
(about 3 hours later)
All sides have played down expectations as the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany are holding talks about the stalled Ukraine peace deal. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said talks with Russian, Ukrainian and French leaders about a stalled Ukraine peace deal "didn't achieve miracles".
A spokesman for President Vladimir Putin said Russia did not expect any breakthroughs at the meeting in Berlin. All sides have agreed to draw up a roadmap by the end of November on how to implement the Minsk peace deal.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel ruled out "miracles" but said every effort must be made to achieve progress at the first four-way meeting in over a year. Mrs Merkel, Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Francois Hollande also discussed Syria.
Mr Putin will also face pressure over the conflict in Syria. The German leader said she and Mr Hollande had a "difficult conversation" with Mr Putin.
Mrs Merkel said talks would aim at alleviating the suffering of the Syrian people and stressed that no option, including sanctions for Russia, were off the table. Both condemned Syrian and Russian air strikes on Aleppo.
The Ukraine discussions take place against a backdrop of tensions elevated by Russia's military backing for the Syrian regime - and a bombing campaign in Aleppo which the European Union has warned could amount to war crimes. The Ukraine discussions took place against a backdrop of tensions elevated by Russia's military backing for the Syrian regime - and a bombing campaign in Aleppo which the European Union has warned could amount to war crimes.
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A blizzard of telephone diplomacy over the past week - when Mr Putin postponed a visit to France over a row about Syria - is said to have resulted in Wednesday night's meeting, which has attracted several protest groups outside. A blizzard of telephone diplomacy over the past week - when Mr Putin postponed a visit to France over a row about Syria - is said to have resulted in Wednesday night's meeting, which attracted several protest groups outside.
The 2015 Minsk agreement eased fighting between Ukrainian forces and Russian-backed rebels in the east of the country, but violence frequently flares along a demarcation line.The 2015 Minsk agreement eased fighting between Ukrainian forces and Russian-backed rebels in the east of the country, but violence frequently flares along a demarcation line.
Speaking after the Berlin talks, President Poroshenko said all sides had agreed that a road map would be drawn by the end of November on how to implement the 2015 agreement and also protocols reached in 2014.
He also said Russia had agreed with a proposal to allow the deployment of an armed police mission from the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe.
President Putin has made no official comments on the issue.
Ukraine, Western leaders and Nato say there is clear evidence that Russia has supplied the rebels with heavy weapons and regular troops. Russia denies that, but it is hostile to the Kiev government and openly supports the rebel cause.Ukraine, Western leaders and Nato say there is clear evidence that Russia has supplied the rebels with heavy weapons and regular troops. Russia denies that, but it is hostile to the Kiev government and openly supports the rebel cause.
In 2014, Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula - a move condemned by Kiev and the West.In 2014, Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula - a move condemned by Kiev and the West.
The last four-way meeting in the so-called Normandy Format took place in Paris in October 2015.The last four-way meeting in the so-called Normandy Format took place in Paris in October 2015.
Mrs Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert told reporters to limit their expectations to a "brutally honest assessment of the situation" in Ukraine, while Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov agreed that "obstacles" to implementing the Minsk accord should be identified.Mrs Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert told reporters to limit their expectations to a "brutally honest assessment of the situation" in Ukraine, while Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov agreed that "obstacles" to implementing the Minsk accord should be identified.
Meanwhile, President Petro Poroshenko said he was not optimistic about the negotiations over the conflict, which has claimed nearly 10,000 lives since it erupted in 2014.Meanwhile, President Petro Poroshenko said he was not optimistic about the negotiations over the conflict, which has claimed nearly 10,000 lives since it erupted in 2014.
He will leave the table when what Mr Seibert termed the "catastrophic situation" in Syria is raised.He will leave the table when what Mr Seibert termed the "catastrophic situation" in Syria is raised.